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Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by Adwexky(m): 1:43pm On Nov 16, 2014
Must reputable established media organization debate on Faith Healing before you believe it is REAL. Well if you look at all things from the physical perspective, you might never see beyond the walls.
*Have you forgotten the case of the US Doctor, who attributed his salvation (health) to God - Dr. Kent Brantly. There are many cases to assure the existence of Faith Healing, pray God will convince you with Abundance of them (Faith Healings).
Seun:
If there were actually 10 documented cases of faith healings, the claims would have been written about and debated by reputable journalistic establishments like CNN, BBC, etc, and skeptics like James Randi would have investigated the cases to find the inevitable flaws. As it stands, the sole source of this information is an article on a Christian apologetics site that we've never heard about.

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Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by arsetalks(m): 1:57pm On Nov 16, 2014
Miracles are real but I guess not for everyone. Reading about how that lady survived brain tumour got me teary.

My fiancee almost made it through. She died 2 days before discharge ever since it has been one confusion to the other. To everyone in my family, no one survives a brain tumour but here is someone who survived it. Further makes me believe it is not for everyone.
Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by Adwexky(m): 2:01pm On Nov 16, 2014
Hello Mr Seun, this person testifies to what God has done in her life, not YOURS, you can't know more than the person that went through such ordeal.
*In no way should you compare what God did to coincidence or luck.
Seun:

It's not every lump on your breast that is cancer; that's why you need a doctor's diagnosis. The lump could have been a small boil, pimple or something like that. It may have been cured on its own, due to the natural working of your immune system, or due to home treatments like application of antiseptic cream, heat, and cleaning/washing that you didn't mention in your testimony. The timing doesn't mean as much as you think :- you were probably praying every day, since you thought it was cancer, and you didn't get cured on any of the other days.

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Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by koikoi2(m): 2:07pm On Nov 16, 2014
This is something dat happens almost everyday at SCOAN. Thousands receive healing, deliverance and breakthrough but no media house has reported this.
But wen it comes to collapse building u see d news everywhere.
Why can't we cherish what we hv?

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Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by Guidette(f): 2:51pm On Nov 16, 2014
As a medical student, these findings that he has published, will be laughed at in a setting of medical professionals. Why? None of his works has been published in a medically reputable journal or site. If I brought this article to the attention of one of my attendings and cited my resources, she would give me the insult of my life. People should not believe everything because a 'doctor' said it. Doctors dont know everything, but we can spot a fraud a mile away.
And also arent you guys curious as to why most of these 'miracles' happened before the 80s? So miracles dont happen now or he died then? You people need to be more critical with your thinking. Jeeeeezzzzzz!
I call shenanigans on this one!

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Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by drestoneokuta(m): 3:11pm On Nov 16, 2014
masonkz:
40something kids were blasted to death last week in the north. I guess they weren't created by same God.


or maybe they just weren't old enough to possess this kinda "faith". undecided

Who is this darkening counsel
with words lacking knowledge?

 Prepare yourself like a man;
I will interrogate you,
and you will respond to me.

 Where were you
when I laid the earth’s foundations?
Tell me if you know.

 Who set its measurements?
Surely you know.

Who stretched a measuring tape on it?

On what were its footings sunk;
who laid its cornerstone,
 while the morning stars sang in unison
and all the divine beings shouted?

 Who enclosed the Sea behind doors
when it burst forth from the womb?

Have you gone to the sea’s sources,
walked in the chamber of the deep

Have you surveyed earth’s expanses?
Tell me if you know everything about it.

Where’s the road to the place
where light dwells;
darkness, where’s it located?

 Can you can take it to its territory;
do you know the paths to its house?

 You know, for you were born then;
you have lived such a long time!

Can you send lightning so that it goes
and then says to you, "I’m here"?

Prepare yourself like a man;
I will interrogate you,
and you will respond to me.

 Would you question my(God's) justice,
deem me (God) guilty
so you can be innocent?

 Or do you have an arm like God;
can you thunder with a voice like him?

 Adorn yourself
with splendor and majesty;
clothe yourself with honor and esteem.

Unleash your raging anger;
look on all the proud and humble them.

 Look on all the proud and debase them;
trample the wicked in their place.

 Hide them together in the dust;
bind their faces in a hidden place.

 Then I (God), even I (God), will praise you,
for your strong hand has delivered you.

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Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by paulGrundy(m): 3:21pm On Nov 16, 2014
Guidette:
As a medical student, these findings that he has published, [size=19pt]will[/size] be laughed at in a setting of medical professionals. Why? None of his works has been published in a medically reputable journal or site.[size=19pt]If[/size] I brought this article to the attention of one of my attendings and cited my resources, she would give me the insult of my life

Baseless speculations, what IF I told you that his work has been published in a reputable medical journal?

People should not believe everything because a 'doctor' said it

My people have you heard? If you are diabetic and the Doctor asks you to cut down on your sugar intake, don't believe him! grin cool
.
Doctors dont know everything, but we can spot a fraud a mile away.
And also arent you guys curious as to why most of these 'miracles' happened before the 80s? So miracles dont happen now or he died then? You people need to be more critical with your thinking. Jeeeeezzzzzz!
I call shenanigans on this one!

So then what are you insinuating?
Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by Kay17: 3:24pm On Nov 16, 2014
paulGrundy:


Wow! Seun hasn't even bothered to investigate the claims of the OP before jumping into conclusions. There have cases where miracles have made frontpage of reputable newspapers around the world, if no miracle has been on CNN or whatever, its because they don't consider it a priority. Sometimes skeptics can go to any lenght to discredit an act of God. Instead of jumping into conclusions, why don't you try and verify the claims of the OP? smiley

It is only in the realm of faith for mountains to move and for cemeteries to rise to life but in reality the Christians remain the same, suffer like everyone else.

nanizle:
According to the American Cancer Society:
... available scientific evidence does not support claims that faith healing can actually cure physical ailments.
One review published in 1998 looked at 172 cases of deaths among children treated by faith healing instead of conventional methods. These researchers estimated that if conventional treatment had been given, the survival rate for most of these children would have been more than 90 percent, with the remainder of the children also having a good chance of survival.
A more recent study found that more than 200 children had died of treatable illnesses in the United States over the past thirty years because their parents relied on spiritual healing rather than conventional medical treatment.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith_healing
Faith cannot cure physical ailments. A simple proof is to gather all your pastors and let them pray for an amputee's limb to grow back. I bet you it won't.
Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by Eeser: 3:33pm On Nov 16, 2014
As a medical personelle, I think is better to tell from my experience:
Some few years back, I met a man in the clinic who happens to be HIV positive and has been on HIV medications for a while. Normally, after a certain period of taking the medications, the viral load (number of virus particles in body fluid) reduce significantly to such an extent that it is undetectable by the PCR machine.
The man went to a spiritual healer at about that period who was said to have prayed for him and have told him to stop taking his medications.
His PCR done at that time did not detect viral particles. So I counseled the patient against heeding the advice of a spiritualist as we have been winning with the medications.
Apparently the man didn't heed my advice cause I saw him months later with AIDs defining symptoms.

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Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by Guidette(f): 3:36pm On Nov 16, 2014
paulGrundy:


Baseless speculations, what IF I told you that his work has been published in a reputable medical journal?



My people have you heard? If you are diabetic and the Doctor asks you to cut down on your sugar intake, don't believe him! grin cool
.


So then what are you insinuating?

Please post your proof of a reputable medical journal that has his work, then we can continue our conversation from there. If not I wont bother replying you again.
Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by buoye1(m): 3:37pm On Nov 16, 2014
When I read the book "biography of katheryn kuylman" oh my God I was so terrified and fear God in another dimension,a chapter was dedicated for the miracle God did through her healing service.....I was dazed with such aura and power she carried.....A woman that Practically floated in d air during one of services! When you read about her,u can testify
Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by Kay17: 3:37pm On Nov 16, 2014
sandijey:



Often the same people who ask where God was following a disaster thinklessly forget to worship and honour him for years of peace and calmness. They disregard God in good times yet think he is obligated to provide help when bad times come. They call into question God's attribute of mercy and compassion. Call into question the mess that we made on earth in which we live.


When God created the earth, it wasn't intended to be this way. The beauty that is in the world was God's idea. The mess was ours and now when we see a judgement caused by sin and we see judgements in that world. We blame God!!!!!!.

Many blame God for the disasters that take place yet in good times they deny his very existence.

God has established a universal law. We reap what we sew. Perhaps there is a connection with all the terrible things that take place upon the earth and our blatant rejection of God and his word. Rather than take responsibility, man chooses to believe God is the author of evil. That way we can question God's love and fairness.


God knows his people and his people know him.

This is sad.

This snake oil solution 'you shall reap what you sow', is abjectly false. Let us take the Christians' lives an example. They are as vulnerable as other humans who have 'rejected God'. They constantly seek for miracles and escapes from the rigours of living. They fear death, they fear diseases and losses; so they create a fantasy world (which they sadly cannot live in) where they imagine all the joys and wealth they cannot afford on earth. They daydream. Christianity is in a few words is Escapism. Wouldn't life more fruitful if they are at peace with themselves and with life. Accept Life for what it is.

The only Miracle is when Christians stop suffering.
Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by Kay17: 3:38pm On Nov 16, 2014
buoye1:
When I read the book "biography of katheryn kuylman" oh my God I was so terrified and fear God in another dimension,a chapter was dedicated for the miracle God did through her healing service.....I was dazed with such aura and power she carried.....A woman that Practically floated in d air during one of services! When you read about her,u can testify

You gullibly believed all that! She couldn't even conquer death.
Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by buoye1(m): 3:46pm On Nov 16, 2014
Kay17:


You gullibly believed all that! She couldn't even conquer death.

Is she Jesus?how could she av conquered death?Please face what you here to do and I choose to believe whatever I want to it's never yOur business...#thanx
Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by Kay17: 4:06pm On Nov 16, 2014
buoye1:
Is she Jesus?how could she av conquered death?Please face what you here to do and I choose to believe whatever I want to it's never yOur business...#thanx

If she wasn't Jesus, then she couldn't have practically floated
Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by ProfJ29: 4:15pm On Nov 16, 2014
EternalBeing:
Miracles are real, genuine miracles happened to me this year. You may not believe me because you don't know what I went through. Those that have seen a demon before would know what I'm talikng about.
Today is Sunday, we don't need to restrict the Gospel of JESUS like anti-Christ. We ought to know whatsoevet would help us to be better people and better Nation. GOD wants to show us Miracles upon Miracles but it's our sin that prevents. The height of it is that devil is trying to get people so used to sin till their minds becomes reprobate, using their bodies for abnormal inconvinent things like homosexuality.
I guess u think homosexuality is secular too; it's grossly spiritual! It is the crescendo, the height of wdesecration of human's conscience. That's why the devil is aggressively pushing it, he knows that it's the only sin that has ever made GOD to rain fire on Earth to consume sinners and that once u cross that line ur conscience become reprobate, dead and hell-bound."

People fall, so it's not about falling, it about refusing to stand, ramaining fallen as a result of pride after falling.
Show me Mastbator and I'll show you a potential homo. Even from comments here, those that mastbate r more soft on condemning homosexuality. It's just too obvious that the Rapture is very much about to happen.
Homosexuality is the major seal of the anti-Christ because the bible says they shall use their bodies for what was normally not convenient, it's the preliminary spiritual 666 before the physical one that would come after rapture. According to Daniel 11:37b, "...(the anti-Christ) shall be a woman hater,he shall not desire women." Read Revelations 13:18, Revelations 14:9-11.
I didn't take JESUS serious until self-acclaimed satanists starts saying that JESUS should come quickly so that they can fully take over!
I even heard a rap song, the gay rapper was boasting of what they'll do to "left behind" Christians after rapture. I laughed because such foolish pple forgot that even after Rapture they too will surely still die and eternity (whether in Heaven or Hell) awaits us all. So, guide ur eyes, hears and watch ur heart. I shall not miss the so very imminent Rapture IJN.

There are now gay pastors and gay churches. Matth24:15 and Mark 13:14 "When you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel standing in the Holy place, know that...JESUS is just about to appear, whosoever readeth let him understand" Are u prepared? or Will you be left behind? Join the genuine Churches like Deeper Life, MFM etc... to prepare yourself for HE is just about to appear. Without any iota or scintilla of doubt, the END TIME is Here!

THIS IS GOOD

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Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by paulGrundy(m): 4:15pm On Nov 16, 2014
Guidette:

Please post your proof of a reputable medical journal that has his work, then we can continue our conversation from there. If not I wont bother replying you again.

I have the proof but I won't post it, you know why? Because its useless. If I put the proof here, you will ask me for a copy of a reputable medical journal that has his investigations on the healing. cheesy grin

What you need is not proof, what you need is an open mind. smiley
Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by paulGrundy(m): 4:18pm On Nov 16, 2014
buoye1:
When I read the book "biography of katheryn kuylman" oh my God I was so terrified and fear God in another dimension,a chapter was dedicated for the miracle God did through her healing service.....I was dazed with such aura and power she carried.....A woman that Practically floated in d air during one of services! When you read about her,u can testify

Exxageration
Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by Bolosiye: 4:22pm On Nov 16, 2014
God has performed lot of miracle we are not even aware of. I have countless numbers of testimonies i dont even know how to begin to share them. God had saved me from both health and spiritual circumstances, that for his intervention, would have culminated in my death or desastrous.
Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by Weah96: 4:35pm On Nov 16, 2014
Miracles happen and yet pastors have access to the best health insurance policies everywhere?

Do I look like a fool to you? Hahaha.

The pediatric cancer ward at St. Jude's is filled with little kids that are scared out of their wits.

Most of them are stage 4, but I'm expected to believe that the armed robbers who spared your life did so because of your ramblings from the previous night?

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Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by cold(m): 4:41pm On Nov 16, 2014
paulGrundy:


I have the proof but I won't post it, you know why? Because its useless. If I put the proof here, you will ask me for a copy of a reputable medical journal that has his investigations on the healing. cheesy grin

What you need is not proof, what you need is an open mind. smiley
Translation...

Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by cold(m): 4:45pm On Nov 16, 2014
Misogynist2014:
My skull still can't figure out how this world can exist without God. Is it right to say 'nothing' doesn't exist, even if there is no proof of its existence, eventhough we feel its effects?
So who created god? Oh yeah let me guess,your god exists out of time. Thus, cannot be created. Yeah right,i've heard that one before..sigh

Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by Misogynist2014(m): 4:49pm On Nov 16, 2014
cold:

So who created god? Oh yeah let me guess,your god exists out of time. Thus, cannot be created. Yeah right,i've heard that one before..sigh
When did infinity start? When will infinity end?
Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by cold(m): 4:59pm On Nov 16, 2014
Misogynist2014:
When did infinity start? When will infinity end?
For starters,your god did not create anything or you'll have to start by telling me who created your god. Secondly ,the world will never come to an end. You'll pass away & that's the end of the world for you. Same applies to everyone else.

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Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by Weah96: 5:06pm On Nov 16, 2014
cold:

You'll pass away & that's the end of the world for you. Same applies to everyone else.

LOL. Good one.

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Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by yomi007k(m): 5:26pm On Nov 16, 2014
jjwaterfalls:
We hav heard,
Y u fine like dis?
Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by bosunjohns(m): 5:28pm On Nov 16, 2014
EternalBeing:
Miracles are real, genuine miracles happened to me this year. You may not believe me because you don't know what I went through. Those that have seen a demon before would know what I'm talikng about.
Today is Sunday, we don't need to restrict the Gospel of JESUS like anti-Christ. We ought to know whatsoevet would help us to be better people and better Nation. GOD wants to show us Miracles upon Miracles but it's our sin that prevents. The height of it is that devil is trying to get people so used to sin till their minds becomes reprobate, using their bodies for abnormal inconvinent things like homosexuality.
I guess u think homosexuality is secular too; it's grossly spiritual! It is the crescendo, the height of wdesecration of human's conscience. That's why the devil is aggressively pushing it, he knows that it's the only sin that has ever made GOD to rain fire on Earth to consume sinners and that once u cross that line ur conscience become reprobate, dead and hell-bound."

People fall, so it's not about falling, it about refusing to stand, ramaining fallen as a result of pride after falling.
Show me Mastbator and I'll show you a potential homo. Even from comments here, those that mastbate r more soft on condemning homosexuality. It's just too obvious that the Rapture is very much about to happen.
Homosexuality is the major seal of the anti-Christ because the bible says they shall use their bodies for what was normally not convenient, it's the preliminary spiritual 666 before the physical one that would come after rapture. According to Daniel 11:37b, "...(the anti-Christ) shall be a woman hater,he shall not desire women." Read Revelations 13:18, Revelations 14:9-11.
I didn't take JESUS serious until self-acclaimed satanists starts saying that JESUS should come quickly so that they can fully take over!
I even heard a rap song, the gay rapper was boasting of what they'll do to "left behind" Christians after rapture. I laughed because such foolish pple forgot that even after Rapture they too will surely still die and eternity (whether in Heaven or Hell) awaits us all. So, guide ur eyes, hears and watch ur heart. I shall not miss the so very imminent Rapture IJN.

There are now gay pastors and gay churches. Matth24:15 and Mark 13:14 "When you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel standing in the Holy place, know that...JESUS is just about to appear, whosoever readeth let him understand" Are u prepared? or Will you be left behind? Join the genuine Churches like Deeper Life, MFM etc... to prepare yourself for HE is just about to appear. Without any iota or scintilla of doubt, the END TIME is Here!

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Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by Misogynist2014(m): 5:32pm On Nov 16, 2014
cold:

For starters,your god did not create anything or you'll have to start by telling me who created your god. Secondly ,the world will never come to an end. You'll pass away & that's the end of the world for you. Same applies to everyone else.
[size=8pt][/size] Saying God doesn't exist is like saying the world started from nothing, for nothing cannot beget something. Nothing didn't start the universe, it could't. Something did.
For nothing to exist it must have been created by something. That something must be called God, cos he created nothing and everything came from him, without him would there be anything made that was made. He must be infinite in wisdom and in all things, he must be infinite because he is infinity. cheesy
Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by cold(m): 5:54pm On Nov 16, 2014
Misogynist2014:
[size=8pt][/size] Saying God doesn't exist is like saying the world started from nothing, for nothing cannot beget something. Nothing didn't start the universe, it could't. Something did.
For nothing to exist it must have been created by something. That something must be called God, cos he created nothing and everything came from him, without him would there be anything made that was made. He must be infinite in wisdom and in all things, he must be infinite because he is infinity. cheesy
I get you. If your god came from nothing,the corollary therefore,is that nothing is greater than god. Thus,i believe in nothing. Checkmate

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Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by Emmalot121(m): 6:31pm On Nov 16, 2014
cold:

I get you. If your god came from nothing,the corollary therefore,is that nothing is greater than god. Thus,i believe in nothing. Checkmate
I sincerely don't know the correlation btw your post and Miso's post. lipsrsealed
Re: A Medical Doctor Verifys And Confirms 10 Cases Of Faith Healing by cold(m): 7:56pm On Nov 16, 2014
Emmalot121:
I sincerely don't know the correlation btw your post and Miso's post. lipsrsealed
Not to worry. You don't have to.

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