WHY CAN'T I ALLOW HER PASS THE NIGHT IN MY
ROOM?
A lady informed me one day that she was coming
to pay me a visit. I told her she's welcomed and
that I would be expecting her.
Then she said, 'I will be sleeping over o'. I replied
no problem, that I will make arrangement with one
of my fellowship sisters or my neighbour so she
could put up with any of them for the night.
She said she wouldn't like that. Then I asked to
know what she wanted, she said she would like to
stay in my room.
I told her it won't be possible because I don't
allow ladies pass the night in my room except they
are in group of two, three, etc. in which case I will
leave the room for them.
She told me it doesn't matter now and that she's
not having any ulterior motive; and that she will
ensure nothing happens.
I replied her and said, it really does matter.
Number one reason is that I am representing Christ
in my environment. Will Jesus be in the same room
overnight with a lady He is not married to? Let
assume nothing happened, what do we tell or how
do we convince people that sees the two of us
come out from the same room the following
morning. Definitely that's an appearance of evil
that the Bible instructs us to abstain from.
Secondly, let assume we didn't touch each other in
the night, will our hearts still remain pure? Won't it
be filled with lustful thoughts?
What then was my response? I told her all those
things I described above. At this point, she was
bored. Then she decided she wasn't going to come
again if I won't allow her sleep in my room. I
replied and said that's OK by me, she may not
bother to come.
That was not the first experience I've had over the
years. The temptation comes in aliquot. But one
thing had kept me; I will not do anything I'm
convinced Christ will not do.
Cohabitation is very common among campus
people these days, even among brothers and
sisters in the church.
Allowing a lady who is not yet your wife to pass
the night in the same room with you is like
tempting the Devil to destroy you. It is like scoring
a goal for the other team.
Sister, allowing 'Bro' to sleep in the same room
with you is one of the signs of compromise of
virtue and backsliding.
Let's keep the standard high. Holiness of heart and
life is still the key into the kingdom of Heaven.
Being engaged is not the same as being married.
He's not authorised to touch your body until he
has paid your bride price.
The beginning of backsliding is little little
compromise. Let's hold on. Purity pays for life and
eternity.
I've made up my mind to be a Christian, I mean a
Christian... Not an hypocrite! What about you?


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wanna be just like u

The Lord bless and keep you

HFOG:
The Lord bless and keep you

thanks sharee

Specialist900:
thanks sharee

:-) Glad you enjoyed it. God help us keep our garments spotless

Give me her number

a lady called u... please this lady just called u from nowhere, u dont know her and she dont u or what?..please you have to tell us ur relationship with this lady...

Such a long story, get her a room elsewhere, no need for argument.

if she dey bring ebola come, will you need to think before rebuking the devil?

Great job...it takes alot of Jesus in someone to do what you did. You should hear mine someday. I'm no longer a student for years now, but the level of your situation above on the outside of campus is stunning.

God bless you. Ignore the poster above me.

Good one@oyinprince. Proponent of sex before marriage like Goshen360 will encourage such behaviour all in the name of "higher level of grace".SMH!

Masturbation is a lesser sin. More soap to you, Bro.

Um, lust and acting on lust are both considered sin. Just do the deed man.

Coming from a BLW member? Pics or you know the rest...

Bidam:
Good one@oyinprince. Proponent of sex before marriage like Goshen360 will encourage such behaviour all in the name of "higher level of grace".SMH!

You dey find trouble o



@Oyinprince, ignore the busy body above me

Persin wey get head, no get cap while persin wey get cap, no get head

Good for you o

Great bro

Gombs:


You dey find trouble o



@Oyinprince, ignore the busy body above me

i dey wait for that coconut head make hin enter this thread see.

Bidam:
Good one@oyinprince. Proponent of sex before marriage like Goshen360 will encourage such behaviour all in the name of "higher level of grace".SMH!

Ignorant people will always make uneducated guess\conclusions from the truth of the gospel. Live with it, and accept it or move on: You don't understand the finished works of God. The day you catch that revelation from the word, you'll give glory to God. Your mind is like a man who was told he now has liberty in Christ but is interpreting that with his "sin conscious mind" to mean he can do as he likes. There's nowhere in scriptures God condemns Christians for having sex with someone they truely want to married. I'm not talking about whor.ing and prostitu.ting one's body or just sleeping around. I will teach again and again. Bidam, you have a long way to go in the word, go and sit somewhere and flush religion out of you and sit with the Spirit: He will show you things of the Spirit.

Goshen360:


Ignorant people will always make uneducated guess\conclusions from the truth of the gospel. Live with it, and accept it or move on: You don't understand the finished works of God. The day you catch that revelation from the word, you'll give glory to God. Your mind is like a man who was told he now has liberty in Christ but is interpreting that with his "sin conscious mind" to mean he can do as he likes. There's nowhere in scriptures God condemns Christians for having sex with someone they truely want to married. I'm not talking about whor.ing and prostitu.ting one's body or just sleeping around. I will teach again and again. Bidam, you have a long way to go in the word, go and sit somewhere and flush religion out of you and sit with the Spirit: He will show you things of the Spirit.

is sex before marriage a sin?

Bidam:
i dey wait for that coconut head make hin enter this thread see.

Na me you dey call that name? No worry, I saw this thread but never wanted to come until you mentioned my I.D. The OP had taken the right action, so what else you want me say? See, the problem with folks you is, you carry "sin conscious" mind every where and literally see sin in everything and interpret everything attached to sin. You also think the Grace message is a license to sin but YOU, my friend err not knowing the message of the gospel of Grace.

Goshen360:


Na me you dey call that name? No worry, I saw this thread but never wanted to come until you mentioned my I.D. The OP had taken the right action, so what else you want me say? See, the problem with folks you is, you carry "sin conscious" mind every where and literally see sin in everything and interpret everything attached to sin. You also think the Grace message is a license to sin but YOU, my friend err not knowing the message of the gospel of Grace.

Why are you sidestepping my question? No one is saying a christian do not commit acts of sin. The simple question you are yet to answer is : IS SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE A SIN? I await your reply, a yes or no would do thanks.

Bidam:
is sex before marriage a sin?

Again and again Bidam, the message in the OP, if that brother had sex with that lady, it is whor.ing because he never said they were in relationship engaged towards marriage. That will be a sin of fornication in an act of whor.ing\prostitut.ing. BUT, if they are in a relationship engaged towards marriage, there's no sin in such sex. If you have a scripture condemning such, bring it up and let's look at it. Stop this religious "reading into scripture", argue your case with clear scriptures. I'm here to discuss with you.

Bidam:
Why are you sidestepping my question? No one is saying a christian do not commit acts of sin. The simple question you are yet to answer is : IS SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE A SIN? I await your reply, a yes or no would do thanks.

You can't give a YES or NO answer. It's not a "one-size-fits-all" method. You have to look at the context of the message in order to interpret it in the context of God's word. That's the error you making. I already answered you question anyway. I want\like to discuss scriptures on this subject in stead of "good idea"

Goshen360:


Again and again Bidam, the message in the OP, if that brother had sex with that lady, it is whor.ing because he never said they were in relationship engaged towards marriage. That will be a sin of fornication in an act of whor.ing\prostitut.ing. BUT, if they are in a relationship engaged towards marriage, there's no sin in such sex. If you have a scripture condemning such, bring it up and let's look at it. Stop this religious "reading into scripture", argue your case with clear scriptures. I'm here to discuss with you.

This is not only laffable but an idiotic statement. What happens after you con change your mind or any unimaginable events occurred? This is the same way you will be proposing to different sisters and sleeping with them all in the name of engagement which will never occur in future abi? Look at this scripture below.

"Marriage is honorable among all, and the marriage bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge." Hebrews 13:4 NKJV
. Doesn't it occur to you that there is honour and purity if you keep your motives pure with the person you are engaged to until after marriage? You wan test am before marriage abi? This is more harm done to yourself and her and it is better if you wait and consummate such relationship in matrimony. This is scripture not your concocted idiocy that you are busy propagating throughout nairaland and spoiling our youths with.

HFOG:
The Lord bless and keep you

Amen..

Bidam:
This is not only laffable but an idiotic statement. What happens after you con change your mind or any unimaginable events occurred? This is the same way you will be proposing to different sisters and sleeping with them all in the name of engagement which will never occur in future abi? Look at this scripture below.

"Marriage is honorable among all, and the marriage bed undefiled;but fornicators and adulterers, God will judge. Hebrews 11:29" Hebrews 13:4 NKJV
. Doesn't it occur to you that there is honour and purity if you keep your motives pure with the person you are engaged to until after marriage? You wan test am before marriage abi? This is more harm done to yourself and her and it is better if you wait and consummate such relationship in matrimony. This is scripture not your concocted idiocy that you are busy propagating throughout nairaland and spoiling our youths with.

Bidam, your heart is hardened and you are not ready to learn. One big thing I keep seeing in you is, your mind is made up in reading into the text or giving a religious interpretation to scriptures. You don't want to investigate the text by YOURSELF and accept the truth of God's word. That verse you quoted has nothing to do with BEFORE marriage....it has EVERYTHING to do with IN A MARRIAGE and it agrees with Jesus' meaning of fornication.

It didn't say COURTSHIP is honourable, it says MARRIAGE is honourable: simply put, honour your marriage when you are in one, don't go out of your marriage and have sex....that is adultery, fornication and whor.ing. That's the second statement explaining...but fornicators and adulterers, God will judge.

# I will be preparing for work now, and might attend to this discussion later if need be. But you need to drop scripture interpretation of what we have been taught in the institutionalized church and study the word by yourself with the Spirit. You will be amazed what you will learn #

Goshen360:


Bidam, your heart is hardened and you are not ready to learn. One big thing I keep seeing in you is, your mind is made up in reading into the text or giving a religious interpretation to scriptures. You don't want to investigate the text by YOURSELF and accept the truth of God's word. That verse you quoted has nothing to do with BEFORE marriage....it has EVERYTHING to do with IN A MARRIAGE and it agrees with Jesus' meaning of fornication.

It didn't say COURTSHIP is honourable, it says MARRIAGE is honourable: simply put, honour your marriage when you are in one, don't go out of your marriage and have sex....that is adultery, fornication and whor.ing. That's the second statement explaining...but fornicators and adulterers, God will judge

Let me help your blindness here. God says MARRY FIRST THEN HAVE SEX....BUT FALSE TEACHER GOSHEN SAYS NO NO NO..SEX FIRST THEN MARRIAGE LATER. Maybe the MSG translation will help since you don't comprehend simple english of NKJV.

"Honor marriage, and guard the sacredness of sexual intimacy between wife and husband. God draws a firm line against casual and illicit sex."

You first marry and when you become husband and wife you have sex, as long as you are engaged to be married no one sees you as being married to start with. Even God doesn't see you as such.

Goshen360:


Ignorant people will always make uneducated guess\conclusions from the truth of the gospel. Live with it, and accept it or move on: You don't understand the finished works of God. The day you catch that revelation from the word, you'll give glory to God. Your mind is like a man who was told he now has liberty in Christ but is interpreting that with his "sin conscious mind" to mean he can do as he likes. There's nowhere in scriptures God condemns Christians for having sex with someone they truely want to married. I'm not talking about whor.ing and prostitu.ting one's body or just sleeping around. I will teach again and again. Bidam, you have a long way to go in the word, go and sit somewhere and flush religion out of you and sit with the Spirit: He will show you things of the Spirit.

So, it would be ok for me to keep having sex with a girl I have told my pastor I want to marry? Are you serious?

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Goshen360:


Again and again Bidam, the message in the OP, if that brother had sex with that lady, it is whor.ing because he never said they were in relationship engaged towards marriage. That will be a sin of fornication in an act of whor.ing\prostitut.ing. BUT, if they are in a relationship engaged towards marriage, there's no sin in such sex. If you have a scripture condemning such, bring it up and let's look at it. Stop this religious "reading into scripture", argue your case with clear scriptures. I'm here to discuss with you.

Dear Lord Jesus!

Bidam, ask no further. He just endorsed sex before marriage on the grounds that it is not a sin if they have an agreement of getting married in future. Even if it's 12years, I can keep have sex with her till marriage.

The true gospel preacher just gave us a new revelation.

Goshen360:


Bidam, your heart is hardened and you are not ready to learn. One big thing I keep seeing in you is, your mind is made up in reading into the text or giving a religious interpretation to scriptures. You don't want to investigate the text by YOURSELF and accept the truth of God's word. That verse you quoted has nothing to do with BEFORE marriage....it has EVERYTHING to do with IN A MARRIAGE and it agrees with Jesus' meaning of fornication.

It didn't say COURTSHIP is honourable, it says MARRIAGE is honourable: simply put, honour your marriage when you are in one, don't go out of your marriage and have sex....that is adultery, fornication and whor.ing. That's the second statement explaining...but fornicators and adulterers, God will judge.

# I will be preparing for work now, and might attend to this discussion later if need be. But you need to drop scripture interpretation of what we have been taught in the institutionalized church and study the word by yourself with the Spirit. You will be amazed what you will learn #

it is indeed your heart that is hardened and justifying your immoral life style and also leading many on the part of distruction..I cor 7 vs 8-9, paul
said if one cannot control themselves
or their sexual urge they should marry
instead of burning with sexual
lust..If this passage of the bible is not enough, all i can say is May God have mercy on you..You need repentance..

Gombs:


Dear Lord Jesus!

Bidam, ask no further. He just endorsed sex before marriage on the grounds that it is not a sin if they have an agreement of getting married in future. Even if it's 12years, I can keep have sex with her till marriage.

The true gospel preacher just gave us a new revelation.

You dey mind dat coconut head..as e enter US na hin those oyinbo preachers confuse am the more. Best we can do is pray for him.

Goshen360:

Bidam, your heart is hardened and you are not ready to learn. One big thing I keep seeing in you is, your mind is made up in reading into the text or giving a religious interpretation to scriptures. You don't want to investigate the text by YOURSELF and accept the truth of God's word. That verse you quoted has nothing to do with BEFORE marriage....it has EVERYTHING to do with IN A MARRIAGE and it agrees with Jesus' meaning of fornication.
It didn't say COURTSHIP is honourable, it says MARRIAGE is honourable: simply put, honour your marriage when you are in one, don't go out of your marriage and have sex....that is adultery, fornication and whor.ing. That's the second statement explaining...but fornicators and adulterers, God will judge.
# I will be preparing for work now, and might attend to this discussion later if need be. But you need to drop scripture interpretation of what we have been taught in the institutionalized church and study the word by yourself with the Spirit. You will be amazed what you will learn #

Since you always believe in apostolic teachings and condition your acceptance of any practice in church on whether the apostles or NT writers talked about or practiced it, can you show us just ONE apostle that taught or practiced what you're teaching here that sex between engaged couples is not sin? If you can't show it, you have no basis for rejecting other teachings in the church not taught or practiced by the apostles or the early church.