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Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 11:15pm On Dec 22, 2014
sultaan:
Does cost matter in this decision or will practicality play any role of it is price I will pick the Dodge if practicality I will pick the Audi.If you are going to be hauling things around the Dodge wins, UK roads are not full size SUV friendly so not a practical dd.

Audi is good but I have a tendency of see your choice of A8 as weird because Usually won't change a car and buy the same model every couple of years you have owned about 3 A8 very unusual

The Dodge Ram, is priced lower than the Audi A8 Quattro W12, despite being 2 years newer.

For hauling stuff round, my Toyota Hilux will come in handy. I have gotten used to a certain degree of luxury...you could say I'm spoilt. The Audi will also perform much better than the Dodge.

Weird choosing an Audi A8 again? Not really. The A8L Quattro 6.0 W12 is an entirely different animal to my current A8 Quattro 4.2 V8. So different it might as well be a different car altogether. My previous 8 was a 2001 D2 S8 - again, a very different car to any D3. Sometimes the best way to move up in class is to sample from the bottom, then end up at the top. cool

The D3 A8 Quattro W12 is definitely NOT the same model as the D3 A8 Quattro V8, and the D2 S8 Quattro is as far removed from both cars as it gets. smiley

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Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 11:22pm On Dec 22, 2014
Siena:
This is my current 2005 Audi A8 4.2 V8 Quattro, with the rear seat for 3 passengers. This is what I shall be getting in the 6.0 W12 LWB:


Nice to see a still firm seat back pocket.
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 11:27pm On Dec 22, 2014
CityNG:


Nice to see a still firm seat back pocket.

Thanks bro!
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 12:21am On Dec 23, 2014
Siena:


Thanks bro!

You're welcome Bro.

I hate when I see them saggy from shoving newspaper in them.
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 12:23am On Dec 23, 2014
And for us Car Talk "young boys", Uncle Siena has laid down the gauntlet.

We can't just talk to him anyhow anymore grin

In fact I'm standing up straight as I'm typing this cheesy

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Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by sultaan(m): 2:29am On Dec 23, 2014
Ok I understand you clearly now, a 2001 D2 Audi S8 Quattro is different from a 2005 D3 A8 Quattro which is also different for a 2010 D3 Audi A8 because the first 2 had a 4.2l V8 and the last one has a 6.0l W12.

Could it be you are buying them 4 years apart with different engines or the marketing folks did a really good job making even Siena forget there is a word called trim and model year in cars. grin grin


I think a new car smell air freshener would have fixed all the differences
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 7:43am On Dec 23, 2014
CityNG:


Nice to see a still firm seat back pocket.

All my seat back pockets are still firm. No sagging. I hate saggy pockets too.
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by oweniwe(m): 5:11pm On Dec 23, 2014
Abeg somebody should buy a mercedes for siena. A GL class wont be bad. E be like say audi give him love charm chop... The charm strong so tey, audi and siena be like naija married woman and wrapper lipsrsealed

that dodge ram.... I once saw some guys using it to distribute pure water in abule oki area of iyana ipaja... I felt like removing my dusty slippers and flogging the them with it angry
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 5:50pm On Dec 23, 2014
oweniwe:
Abeg somebody should buy a mercedes for siena. A GL class wont be bad. E be like say audi give him love charm chop... The charm strong so tey, audi and siena be like naija married woman and wrapper lipsrsealed(

If anyone bought me a Mercedes-Benz, I would sell it. I'm not a fan of MB, less so since production moved Stateside, from Germany and build quality dropped. Classic MB are a different proposition, they ooze class and durability.

Mercedes-Benz is still battling rust, when even the Koreans have got their rust proofing down to a T, and a 12-year-old Kia Picanto is rust-free.
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 6:48pm On Dec 23, 2014
oweniwe:
Abeg somebody should buy a mercedes for siena. A GL class wont be bad. E be like say audi give him love charm chop... The charm strong so tey, audi and siena be like naija married woman and wrapper lipsrsealed

that dodge ram.... I once saw some guys using it to distribute pure water in abule oki area of iyana ipaja... I felt like removing my dusty slippers and flogging the them with it angry

What do you suggest that the owner of a full size truck use it to do otherwise?

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Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by oweniwe(m): 8:34pm On Dec 23, 2014
CityNG:


What do you suggest that the owner of a full size truck use it to do otherwise?

construction/site runs..... Long distance travels.... Oil/diesel barrel transport..... Etc

using a 3.7L^ engine vehicle for intra-city distribution doesnt just make sense..... If it were a hilux or mitsubishi L200, no wahala..... Thats from my perspective o.

@ siena
well.... Its about the market/sales...

Toyota learnt that long ago.... A automobile doesnt have to be 100% perfect.... Build what people want, add what your competitors dont have.... Add safety paraphernelia.... Roll it to the market and make your money.... Abi u want them to produce what wouldnt sell?

Well, so..... Are u saying you'll pick a picanto over an A class? Or an optima can match a C350? ... If u ask d common drivers what issues they detest most in a car, believe me, rust would be the least of responses.... You see it here every day on nairaland... "i want a rugged car that is economical with cheap parts"...... So.... In conclusion, dont blame Mercedes for choosing to shift market focus or relegate some quality specs.... If u want to make it big.... Give people what they want (toyota), not what is best for them (peugeot)...

People see all those loaded gadgets in Benz and they buy it..... They dont see the rust until 7-15 years later.... So.... Maybe we're at same junction sha.... Take the Benz...use it.... When u notice rust.... Paint it.... Sell it........!!.... grin
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 8:39pm On Dec 23, 2014
^^^evil act. @ spray painting rust and selling it off.

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Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 9:25pm On Dec 23, 2014
Oweniwe, different folk, different strokes. When it comes to choosing a vehicle, I am not influenced by what others like, price or what is out there. If I like a vehicle, I buy it, simple.

The Picanto Vs MB is simply an example, I am comparing how a high-end and low-end manufacturer rust-proof their products. It does NOT mean that the Kia Picanto is superior to a Mercedes-Benz A-Class. However, I would pick a Lexus LS 460 over a MB S430 anyday. In my profession, I've seen enough rusty Mercedes-Benz body parts, and grazed my hands on enough rusty wheel arches to last me a lifetime.

YOU buy the Mercedes-Benz, and be happy with it, leaving ME to make MY own choices, abhorrent they may be to you.

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Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 9:35pm On Dec 23, 2014
oweniwe:


construction/site runs..... Long distance travels.... Oil/diesel barrel transport..... Etc

using a 3.7L^ engine vehicle for intra-city distribution doesnt just make sense..... If it were a hilux or mitsubishi L200, no wahala..... Thats from my perspective o.

@ siena
well.... Its about the market/sales...

Toyota learnt that long ago.... A automobile doesnt have to be 100% perfect.... Build what people want, add what your competitors dont have.... Add safety paraphernelia.... Roll it to the market and make your money.... Abi u want them to produce what wouldnt sell?

Well, so..... Are u saying you'll pick a picanto over an A class? Or an optima can match a C350? ... If u ask d common drivers what issues they detest most in a car, believe me, rust would be the least of responses.... You see it here every day on nairaland... "i want a rugged car that is economical with cheap parts"...... So.... In conclusion, dont blame Mercedes for choosing to shift market focus or relegate some quality specs.... If u want to make it big.... Give people what they want (toyota), not what is best for them (peugeot)...

People see all those loaded gadgets in Benz and they buy it..... They dont see the rust until 7-15 years later.... So.... Maybe we're at same junction sha.... Take the Benz...use it.... When u notice rust.... Paint it.... Sell it........!!.... grin

I understand.

A country of opposites where they carve out the interior of a Volvo sedan and turn it into a pick up truck.

There are various levels of Rams. The V6 one can't do those duties that you listed.
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by oweniwe(m): 10:06pm On Dec 23, 2014
Siena:

YOU buy the Mercedes-Benz, and be happy with it, leaving ME to make MY own choices, abhorrent they may be to you.

no no no.... Dont get me wrong sir. I do not abhor ur choice.... Am a big fan of the A6.... Its just that... Its somehow intriguing for one to stick to a particular brand all the years.... Thats real strong love and passion. smiley

well, maybe the climate affects the choice of cars.... If u view things from "Nigeria angle" of bad roads and mechanic... If i have a choice of picanto and A class here in Nigeria, i'll choose the picanto cos its easier to find garages that can service it around..... Btw a C class and A4, i'll choose the c class (same reason for picking picanto).... Btw E class and A6, i'll pick A6 (who no like AWD).... Btw Lexus RX, Q7 & ML, i'll pick the ML...

But if i were on your side... with all the smooth roads and "loaded" garages... I'll pick the A8 over the GL class. A luxury SUV on narrow smooth roads... A sedan is better...

But here in Nigeria, i can't try it. To drive an A8 over enugu-onitsha express(?)way.... Ah.... Pot holes and ditches here and there.... The GL would do better. grin

maybe thats why we folks here are awed that u choose to stick with Audi all the years... We tend to 'first' view audi from the "nigerian angle".

smiley

and i forgot.... Here, we have only rainy and dry season so rust wouldnt be an issue here unlike in the u.k that only experience short spring. I now understand why u're so concerned about rust.

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Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by peterjero(m): 12:14am On Dec 24, 2014
Daddy siena, don't you think it's high time you open a blog page, so as to be able to pass your knowledge to us or print a book peculiar to our clime.
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 12:22am On Dec 24, 2014
Siena:
...
Sorry for bringing this into this thread bro,
How about your toyota hilux conversion program. You've been silent on that.
Also, you went silent on the BMW snapped timing chain issue.
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 11:42am On Dec 24, 2014
Before i pick one, am really disappointed that you didn't finish what you started in the Hiace, that could have been more fun, and more reasons for the A8.
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 1:10pm On Dec 24, 2014
Bossforeva:
Before i pick one, am really disappointed that you didn't finish what you started in the Hiace, that could have been more fun, and more reasons for the A8.

You think I've given up on the Hilux? Updates may not have been as regular as I'd like, but that doesn't mean I've binned it.

Things are still happening behind the scenes.
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Mlud: 6:38pm On Dec 25, 2014
Hi Siena

My littlepiece is not meant to change any opinions here. We all love vehicles on this forum and individually we like what we like.
I strongly feel that you made the wiser choice though I was surprised that I liked the interior of the Dodge Ram more than I thought I would.
Thanks for the pics.
They are also very different vehicles the Audi and the Dodge. Again I'm not telling you anything new but I suspect that after the novelty of the Dodge and its brute power wears off you will miss the smooth delivery of a multi cylindered Audi.

I think the W12 Audi A8 is one heck of a car and a technical tour de force.
Just to take the "we like what we like" a bit further, my cousin and I are the car buffs in the family. We both like German Cars. I love Mercs and he likes Audis. The only advantage I see with Audis is the quattro specification. Oh we could go all day comparing the virtues of both cars I know.
I've owned an Audi A4 Avant Tdi and an Audi TT Cabrio in the past. Both very enjoyable for different reasons.

But I'm a Mercedes man at heart. I do like both older and modern Audis but I lurve classic 1950s to 1980s Mercs and most modern ones.
But they now have some silly shapes (can't stand the CLC CLA and GLA). The marketing men and the accountants are now winning but Audi do a couple of silly ones too.

The CLS is cool though and compares favourably with Audi's A7...except of course for the quattro.
Each to its own.
I know where I am with Mercedes and I like the fact that I can get factory like mods for them just to make them more individual. Oh I'm sure you can do the same for Audi.

Yep American built Mercedes models are rather dodgy. I test drove the first shape ML once and it developed a fault on the test drive. I knew it was iffy so I went for a Volvo SUV.

Some swear by Toyota Camrys and then there are Peugeot lovers. Well..we all like what we like.

Have great fun with the Audi A8 W12. Its quite a car. Doesn't it share an engine with the Bentley Continental GT?
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 7:02pm On Dec 25, 2014
Thanks for your contribution, Mlud. I agree - we live in a diverse world, every vehicle has its use.

Indeed, the Bentley Continental shares the Audi's W12 motor, and quite a lot more since the Volkswagen Group became Bentley's parent company.
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by sultaan(m): 7:28pm On Dec 25, 2014
Hey the Dodge is less than half the price of the Audi, can actually do real work to pay for its gas bill and will be a lifesaver during the impending zombie apocalypse grin.

There is almost not that the Audi offers you can't find in the Dodge but there is a lot that the Dodge does you can't do with the Audi.

Start with a 60' tv
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 8:12pm On Dec 25, 2014
sultaan:
Hey the Dodge is less than half the price of the Audi, can actually do real work to pay for its gas bill and will be a lifesaver during the impending zombie apocalypse grin.

There is almost not that the Audi offers you can't find in the Dodge but there is a lot that the Dodge does you can't do with the Audi.

Start with a 60' tv

Bud, every car has it's use. What the Dodge can do, I honestly don't need at this point in time. Besides, a Limousine can also work to pay for it's gas bills too, (not that I begrudge the W12 it's thirst, it IS a 6.0 engine, with 450hp and 580Nm torque). As a vehicle for visiting clients, and projecting a certain image, it's of greater value to me than the Dodge.

Believe me, there's plenty the Audi can do the Dodge can't - be pushed down long twisty roads and remain stable, and ferry myself and family around in supreme comfort. Practical things. cool

60" TV in a truck? When I'm not homeless, and have a decent TV I can watch at home, in comfort with my family around me?

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Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by sultaan(m): 10:33pm On Dec 25, 2014
Siena:


Bud, every car has it's use. What the Dodge can do, I honestly don't need at this point in time. Besides, a Limousine can also work to pay for it's gas bills too, (not that I begrudge the W12 it's thirst, it IS a 6.0 engine, with 450hp and 580Nm torque). As a vehicle for visiting clients, and projecting a certain image, it's of greater value to me than the Dodge.

Believe me, there's plenty the Audi can do the Dodge can't - be pushed down long twisty roads and remain stable, and ferry myself and family around in supreme comfort. Practical things. cool

60" TV in a truck? When I'm not homeless, and have a decent TV I can watch at home, in comfort with my family around me?

I meant getting it from the store to your house
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 10:45pm On Dec 25, 2014
sultaan:
I meant getting it from the store to your house

My mistake, Sultaan.

One thing's for sure - I wouldn't transport a flat screen TV bigger than 40" from the shop in a pick-up truck. The risk of it getting broken in truck-transit is too great. Besides, the shops offer free delivery and set-up.
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 6:44am On Jan 24, 2015
CityNG:


I understand.

A country of opposites where they carve out the interior of a Volvo sedan and turn it into a pick up truck.

There are various levels of Rams. The V6 one can't do those duties that you listed.
lol.. you mean?

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Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 8:36am On Jan 24, 2015
Siena the A8 should probably be after the Hilux restoration
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 12:43pm On Jan 24, 2015
Bossforeva:
Siena the A8 should probably be after the Hilux restoration

Possibly. Who can tell? wink
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by zinaLPF: 5:46pm On Jan 26, 2015
Siena:


If anyone bought me a Mercedes-Benz, I would sell it. I'm not a fan of MB, less so since production moved Stateside, from Germany and build quality dropped. Classic MB are a different proposition, they ooze class and durability.

Mercedes-Benz is still battling rust, when even the Koreans have got their rust proofing down to a T, and a 12-year-old Kia Picanto is rust-free.

Its interesting, I grew up on MB, and still have a thing for the G500, but I noticed years ago that my Wall Street friends seemed to have a thing for the A8. I finally understood the obsession when I rode in one. It exudes an effortless class and elegance that the S500 and 7 series BMW can only dream of!

Ideally, your stable would include a family vehicle and a work horse. The Hilux should provide that, yes?
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Nobody: 6:39pm On Jan 26, 2015
zinaLPF:
Ideally, your stable would include a family vehicle and a work horse. The Hilux should provide that, yes?

exactly, sir.
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by simiolu1(m): 12:27pm On Jan 27, 2015
oweniwe:


construction/site runs..... Long distance travels.... Oil/diesel barrel transport..... Etc

using a 3.7L^ engine vehicle for intra-city distribution doesnt just make sense..... If it were a hilux or mitsubishi L200, no wahala..... Thats from my perspective o.

@ siena
well.... Its about the market/sales...

Toyota learnt that long ago.... A automobile doesnt have to be 100% perfect.... Build what people want, add what your competitors dont have.... Add safety paraphernelia.... Roll it to the market and make your money.... Abi u want them to produce what wouldnt sell?

Well, so..... Are u saying you'll pick a picanto over an A class? Or an optima can match a C350? ... If u ask d common drivers what issues they detest most in a car, believe me, rust would be the least of responses.... You see it here every day on nairaland... "i want a rugged car that is economical with cheap parts"...... So.... In conclusion, dont blame Mercedes for choosing to shift market focus or relegate some quality specs.... If u want to make it big.... Give people what they want (toyota), not what is best for them (peugeot)...

People see all those loaded gadgets in Benz and they buy it..... They dont see the rust until 7-15 years later.... So.... Maybe we're at same junction sha.... Take the Benz...use it.... When u notice rust.... Paint it.... Sell it........!!.... grin

Wicked U! There is God o...
Re: 2008 Audi A8 D3 6.0 W12 Or 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI Quad Cab? by Kave(m): 5:26pm On Feb 04, 2015
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OVERHEATING PROBLEM
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