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How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by ACOgp: 5:06pm On Dec 23, 2014
How do I buy a good and reliable gear unit(13-pins) for replacement in my toyota camry SE 09 model 2.4L?. It has been confirmed bad and need to be replaced because I was told it cannot be repaired and not advisable too. Stories has it that this new model gear system is expensive and not reliable because it can still get bad at any time. My car is still new and clean and don't understand how the gear unit happened to go bad as early as less than 70 kilomils. They (mechanics) suggested old model gear (10-pins) unit for the replacement which is cheap and electrical convections will be done to make it work perfectly. I refused that suggestion because i don't subscribe to any alteration in my car systems for any reason hence asking for help to procure a good and reliable (13-pins) gear unit for the car.
Please I will appreciate any form of help from all of us.
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by AutosBay(m): 5:22pm On Dec 23, 2014
Well if you reside in Lagos you can get it at Ladipo Auto Market Mushin along Apapa Oshodi Expressway alternatively you could also try ASPAMDA Trade Fair complex along Lagos - Badagry Expressway, these are the top two genuine auto parts dealers that are very reliable in Lagos.

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Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by GAZZUZZ(m): 5:49pm On Dec 23, 2014
Guys in ladipo sell your auto transmission based on 2 conditions.

1. You must buy oem toyota transmission fluid from them.

2. Their recommended mechanics will install gear box.

If you agree to these conditions then they will give you a limited garantee (don't know how long) if not you are on your own.

Last time I asked it was about 350-400k not sure how much it costs now.

Good luck.

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Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by sultaan(m): 8:13pm On Dec 26, 2014
What if you are trying to replace a good working unit?

The expert looking at it is suggesting you replace with another type(no expert should be doing that).

If someone had put wrong fluid or sensor is bad all that could cause it to stop working. Time to use your head and know the real code the transmission is giving
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by sonnie10: 1:48am On Dec 27, 2014
If you want it pre order from the US, I can get you one for a fair price. Tested. $200 shipping and you get it in 3 weeks

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Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by pek(m): 9:05am On Dec 27, 2014
from your post, I see you are a sensible person. don't make the mistake of going for ten pin no matter the cost of thirteen pin. take a stroll to the place of purchase, make your survey. get the price and later, go with your mechanic to buy (optional )
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by eldee1st: 10:21pm On Jan 12, 2015
ACOgp:
How do I buy a good and reliable gear unit(13-pins) for replacement in my toyota camry SE 09 model 2.4L?. It has been confirmed bad and need to be replaced because I was told it cannot be repaired and not advisable too. Stories has it that this new model gear system is expensive and not reliable because it can still get bad at any time. My car is still new and clean and don't understand how the gear unit happened to go bad as early as less than 70 kilomils. They (mechanics) suggested old model gear (10-pins) unit for the replacement which is cheap and electrical convections will be done to make it work perfectly. I refused that suggestion because i don't subscribe to any alteration in my car systems for any reason hence asking for help to procure a good and reliable (13-pins) gear unit for the car.
Please I will appreciate any form of help from all of us.

Hello, I happen to find myself in this condition of yours. Please how did you go about it? The Ladipo guys are advising 10 pins to me as well. Also, where did you buy your gear for the 09 se?

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Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by ACOgp: 8:14pm On Jan 14, 2015
sonnie10:
If you want it pre order from the US, I can get you one for $1500. Tested. $200 shipping and you get it in 3 weeks
Sonnie am interested in what u said but please lets talk more on phone. 08037507620.
i wish to understand better ok.
Although the cost is very high sha but lets discuss further.
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by ACOgp: 8:23pm On Jan 14, 2015
eldee1st:


Hello, I happen to find myself in this condition of yours. Please how did you go about it? The Ladipo guys are advising 10 pins to me as well. Also, where did you buy your gear for the 09 se?
My brother I still dey on the matter oh!. Hoping to get more advise from people here sha. but one guy suggested importing it very sound one from USA for me but looks very high.Am actually planning to discuss with him on direct line soon. maybe I should get back to u later. this is my number 08037507620.
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by disloman(m): 11:02am On Jan 15, 2015
Op!that part is expensive but buy d exact part u wanna replace.don't go 4 any conversion.it saves money n effort.
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by sonnie10: 7:55pm On Jan 16, 2015
I have tried to reach you but due to time difference, I only have time to call you after 1am Nigeria time. Are you still interested in buying the transmission?
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by ACOgp: 8:17am On Jan 18, 2015
sonnie10:
I have tried to reach you but due to time difference, I only have time to call you after 1am Nigeria time. Are you still interested in buying the transmission?
Yes I am but was made to understand that there's difference between 4-plugs 2-wheels drive gears{13-pins) and 4-plugs 4-wheels drive even in those camry. please can u throw more light on that?.
If u wouldn't mind pls drop ur phone number or call mine.
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by Kashif(m): 8:53am On Jan 18, 2015
What is exactly wrong with your transmission?
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by ACOgp: 11:53am On Jan 18, 2015
The car does not select gears normal again. The car cannot see or transmit normal while deddling it hence might refuse to engage to gear 1 for a start in movement especially when its engine is hot. Even at the initial time it can engage to gear 1 and others, its movement will be retard. One cannot accerelate well again. looks like a car driving itself at its own rate not minding how much u might be peddling it down to change gears to run faster. After all said and done with computer which confirmed our fears, we've also physically inspected the filter and oil. The oil level was normal but dirty with carbon susbtances, burnt and smelling.

Kashif:
What is exactly wrong with your transmission?
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by Kashif(m): 12:31pm On Jan 18, 2015
*Modified*

Your transmission should be the U250E. (I dont why learned people should be identifying transmissons with pins - 13 pins, 28 pins etc) Go online and research its common problems, and make informed decision. Anybody who says you must replace a transmission when it malfunctions is ignorant. I have a very recent experience, and it confirms what what I have always felt.

What did the computer say?
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by Jodesky(m): 12:54pm On Jan 18, 2015
OP,
I've been in your shoes before. Once its confirmed via scanning that the gear is bad, don't be misled by anyone promising to repair or rebuild the 13-pin gear. You will end up wasting money without results.

I got mine sometime in 2012 in Ladipo for about N380k but as Gazzuz rightly posted, the Seller will give you a mechanic to fix it and you will buy the OEM ATF right there. Its wise because the guy will not honour any warranty if u use any other mechanic. The 13-pin has many variants viz: 2WD, 4WD etc, so I advise you let the Seller appoint a mechanic to fix it.

You will also be responsible for paying the mechanic.

I don't have the contact of these guys any longer but very few people stock the 13-pin because of the cost. I think u shd devote a day for the search and go in person with ur mechanic to get a very neat one (with warranty). The one I got then was near-excellent and still performing till now.

Any more questions?

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Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by sonnie10: 2:23pm On Jan 18, 2015
ACOgp:

Yes I am but was made to understand that there's difference between 4-plugs 2-wheels drive gears{13-pins) and 4-plugs 4-wheels drive even in those camry. please can u throw more light on that?.
If u wouldn't mind pls drop ur phone number or call mine.

In Nigeria market, people bring auto parts from all over the world; Europe,Asia, US, Canada etc. Being that Toyota have the same engine of the 2009 camry in other models of their vehicles built for different markets, those other vehicles may come with variations in their transmissions. But for the 2007 - 2009 US model, the transmissions, I believe are the same. However, in that range there are differences in those used in 4cly, 6cyl, manual, hybrid.

I will call you later
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by ACOgp: 6:57pm On Jan 18, 2015
Thanks for ur better contribution and technical terminologies supplied. I do appreciate and promise to look into the gear type and know more about their problems and solutions .
Kashif:
*Modified*

Your transmission should be the U250E. (I dont why learned people should be identifying transmissons with pins - 13 pins, 28 pins etc) Go online and research its common problems, and make informed decision. Anybody who says you must replace a transmission when it malfunctions is ignorant. I have a very recent experience, and it confirms what what I have always felt.

What did the computer say?
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by ACOgp: 7:02pm On Jan 18, 2015
Good if u can call. However I've searched online for any camry with all wheel drive and there is non. So for toyota camry I think its all front wheel drive and their transmission unit only varies based on the cylinders. It should be same gear unit as fas as its for 2AZ engine.
sonnie10:


In Nigeria market, people bring auto parts from all over the world; Europe,Asia, US, Canada etc. Being that Toyota have the same engine of the 2009 camry in other models of their vehicles built for different markets, those other vehicles may come with variations in their transmissions. But for the 2007 - 2009 US model, the transmissions, I believe are the same. However, in that range there are differences in those used in 4cly, 6cyl, manual, hybrid.

I will call you later
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by GAZZUZZ(m): 6:24am On Jan 19, 2015
Kashif:
*Modified*

Your transmission should be the U250E. (I dont why learned people should be identifying transmissons with pins - 13 pins, 28 pins etc) Go online and research its common problems, and make informed decision. Anybody who says you must replace a transmission when it malfunctions is ignorant. I have a very recent experience, and it confirms what what I have always felt.

What did the computer say?

The failure rate when transmissions are rebuilt in nigeria is very high,it does not mean it will not work, but in many cases you will be back to square 1 in very little time. No auto transsmission "expert" will give you more than a months garantee on his work. Solenoid replacements are easy repairs, but clutch replacements with dirty oil and a contaminated valve body, ill rather buy a new transsmission.

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Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by ACOgp: 11:22am On Jan 19, 2015
Yeah. And we saw dirty oil that smells like carbon burnt stuff. They said it was the fiber that was already burning inside the unit. We even brought out the filter and cleaned it. Removed some good quantity of the dirty oil and replaced with new one of about 2 - 3 liters before closing back the unit. Still it did not perform better rather same from the beginning.
GAZZUZZ:


The failure rate when transmissions are rebuilt in nigeria is very high,it does not mean it will not work, but in many cases you will be back to square 1 in very little time. No auto transsmission "expert" will give you more than a months garantee on his work. Solenoid replacements are easy repairs, but clutch replacements with dirty oil and a contaminated valve body, ill rather buy a new transsmission.
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by Kashif(m): 12:49pm On Jan 19, 2015
ACOgp:
Yeah. And we saw dirty oil that smells like carbon burnt stuff. They said it was the fiber that was already burning inside the unit. We even brought out the filter and cleaned it. Removed some good quantity of the dirty oil and replaced with new one of about 2 - 3 liters before closing back the unit. Still it did not perform better rather same from the beginning.

Cleaning fibre and removing 2-3 litres of fluid will NOT cure your transmission. You need to bring out all the oil (converter needs to come out). If done, the transmission should take about 7-8 litres. Replace the fibre and valve body. Removing the solenoids and thoroughly flushing your valve body could get you back. Take your car to a transmission major.

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Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by ACOgp: 7:40am On Jan 20, 2015
Morning Sir. Please do you know any transmission major in Ph that I stay whom i can take my camry to for the trial that you suggested?.I will be glad to try that first before doing the replacement because one never can tell. This is my phone number 08037507620.
Kashif:


Cleaning fibre and removing 2-3 litres of fluid will NOT cure your transmission. You need to bring out all the oil (converter needs to come out). If done, the transmission should take about 7-8 litres. Replace the fibre and valve body. Removing the solenoids and thoroughly flushing your valve body could get you back. Take your car to a transmission major.
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by Kashif(m): 8:48am On Jan 20, 2015
Sorry I don't know anybody in PH. I am in Lagos. Does your mechanic not know any?
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by ACOgp: 11:15am On Jan 20, 2015
Yeah we do but don't think they're transmission major (s) pa say. Taught there could be any referrence to any workshop in ph to handle that. However we will try our best here sha and do what you suggested. Thanks once more for contributing so far.
Kashif:
Sorry I don't know anybody in PH. I am in Lagos. Does your mechanic not know any?
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by Beautiful4u(m): 3:37pm On Jan 20, 2015
ACOgp:
Yeah we do but don't think they're transmission major (s) pa say. Taught there could be any referrence to any workshop in ph to handle that. However we will try our best here sha and do what you suggested. Thanks once more for contributing so far.
@kashif, the fibre plate in my gear is faulty, can you please give me the phone number of any transmission major you know in lagos. my number is 08068034042. thanks man
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by Nobody: 6:22pm On Jan 20, 2015
I've never seen such a high rate of automatic transmission failure, as seems to be prevalent in Nigeria. These cars are used for many years in their respective countries of origin, without any major issues. Then they are shipped to Nigeria, where the transmissions are dead in a very short space of time.

Doesn't this tell an obvious story? Bad mechanics, incorrect fluids, poor maintenance, like flushing the ATF with the "one fluid fits all" (ABRO and the rest) and rather than replacing the filter, washing the old one, and refitting it. The same goes for the oil pan and other related seals & gaskets, replaced with that "black gum" Nigerian mechanics seem to love.

Between the owners of these cars, and their local mechanics, these cars are doomed from the moment they roll off their shipping vessels, and onto Nigerian soil.

Let's not even start on the left-foot braking brigade.

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Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by DECOtech(m): 10:43pm On Jan 20, 2015
Siena:

Let's not even start on the left-foot braking brigade.

Hahahahahahahaha!
My bele ooooooh!
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by ACOgp: 4:40pm On Jan 21, 2015
@Kashif is it this same toyota camry 2009 SE 4-Cyl 2.4 lit you are having the fibre issue?. Pls am referring to @Beautiful4u.
Beautiful4u:
@kashif, the fibre plate in my gear is faulty, can you please give me the phone number of any transmission major you know in lagos. my number is 08068034042. thanks man
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by Kashif(m): 9:59pm On Jan 21, 2015
ACOgp:
@Kashif is it this same toyota camry 2009 SE 4-Cyl 2.4 lit you are having the fibre issue?. Pls am referring to @Beautiful4u.

Nope, his is the 98 model. I understand it has been checked, and found out his problem is not the transmission......
Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by blestman: 2:19pm On Jan 30, 2015
@sienna, automatic transmissions dont last forever, they undergo wears as the mileage of the car increases, with a mileage of about 150,000 be prepared for a new transmission.and guess what, the white man sells the car to us at the first sign of failure as he is not ready to spend $1500 buying a transmission not including the cost of replacement. so u can c why we have a high rate of transmission failure,we buy used cars whose transmission are already failing.. am currently using a10 pin automatic transmission for my camry 2007 se instead of the 13pin and the challenge i see now is difficultly in climbing some bumps( it lacks power and i get stuck sometimes and i hav to reverse and climb wit some momentum) but the car drives pretty well..

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Re: How Do I Buy New Gear Unit(13-pins) For Replacement In Toyota Camry 09 Model?. by IdaraCHODB(m): 4:13pm On Jan 30, 2015
blestman:
@sienna, automatic transmissions dont last forever, they undergo wears as the mileage of the car increases, with a mileage of about 150,000 be prepared for a new transmission.and guess what, the white man sells the car to us at the first sign of failure as he is not ready to spend $1500 buying a transmission not including the cost of replacement. so u can c why we have a high rate of transmission failure,we buy used cars whose transmission are already failing.. am currently using a10 pin automatic transmission for my camry 2007 se instead of the 13pin and the challenge i see now is difficultly in climbing some bumps( it lacks power and i get stuck sometimes and i hav to reverse and climb wit some momentum) but the car drives pretty well..

There is another issue - manufacturer design errors, and buying tokunbo means you still have to grapple with those.

In a best case scenario, it is better to buy a remanufactured transmissions not tokunbo, but like you said who wants to spend $1,500.00 or so on a transmission.

If my transmission ever fails again, and its a car I am in love with, that is what I would do, for optimal peace of mind

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