sufido123:


You still don't get it. The fact that God does not exist and the Bible account of him being nonsensical and fictional are not mutually exclusive. In your warped mind you think they are but they are not.

Make up your mind.

Does God exist or not?

Is the Bible true or erroneous?

sufido123:


God never made you. Your mom are dad copulated and biological materials exchanged. The product is therefore you. If a DNA analysis is done, it will show the components of your mom and dad and not that of Yahweh.

If you will criticize the God described in the Bible, you have to consider the whole description. Including that God created everything.

If you will reject the Bible's description of God's creation, then you will have to reject the accounts of God taking the lives of people.

That's why I say you're restless, agitated, confused, bitter and scatter-brained.

You don't even know whether you accept or reject the veracity of God or the Bible.

italo:


Make up your mind.

Does God exist or not?

Is the Bible true or erroneous?

We have reached that point that christians get to. This is where they point to the bible and say God exists because the bible says so. This for me is too circular to proceed further

sufido123:


We have reached that point that christians get to. This is where they point to the bible and say God exists because the bible says so. This for me is too circular to proceed further

I am not trying to prove with the Bible that God exists. You are confused.

The only proof that I offer you is that you spend your life talking about God.

You say he is evil.

A non existent thing like djxjfjgjcydc cannot be evil.

italo:


I am not trying to prove with the Bible that God exists. You are confused.

The only proof that I offer you is that you spend your life talking about God.

You say he is evil.

A non existent thing like djxjfjgjcydc cannot be evil.

How do you know that I spend my life talking about God? You do not know me. For the record, Yahweh is the last thing I think about because he is omni impotent. I just wanted to show you how fallacious your christian doctrines are.

It has been an interesting discussion. You are very recalcitrant and refused to provide me any evidence of God. If you have any evidence contact me. I would be willing to listen to you then. For now good bye.

sufido123:


How do you know that I spend my life talking about God? You do not know me. For the record, Yahweh is the last thing I think about because he is omni impotent. I just wanted to show you how fallacious your christian doctrines are.

It has been an interesting discussion. You are very recalcitrant and refused to provide me any evidence of God. If you have any evidence contact me. I would be willing to listen to you then. For now good bye.

You're confused. This thread is meant to highlight the foolishness of Atheists who can't do without talking about the God they claim doesn't exist.

That, you have proved.

If you want physical proof for a non physical being, open a other thread and demonstrate more foolishness there.

italo:


You're confused. This thread is meant to highlight the foolishness of Atheists who can't do without talking about the God they claim doesn't exist.

That, you have proved.

If you want physical proof for a non physical being, open a other thread and demonstrate more foolishness there.

i was being disturbed by the church doing night vigil yesterday, they were praying and shout that people should give their live to christ. If your sleep is be disturbed for Ogun to be praised will you have something to say about it

pesty100:
i was being disturbed by the church doing night vigil yesterday, they were praying and shout that people should give their live to christ. If your sleep is be disturbed for Ogun to be praised will you have something to say about it

Oh! You're here again this morning to rant about a non-existent bring?

Do you rant about football fans when they shout in your vicinity during an important match?

Do you rant about the incessant honking of horns on the roads?

Do you rant about all the people playing loud music?

You only choose to rant about God, day and night.

Weah96:


Is there a religion in which Santa Claus is worshipped as the primary deity? If not, then there's no equivocation.

The primary Gods on this forum are Yahweh and Allah.
Both of them do not exist. But adults believe that they do, and societies are being designed with that reality in mind.

I'm well within the confines of sanity to do anything I can to temper the spread of this disease of mass delusion.
If it makes you happy, I'll also behave the same way against any God known as Santa Claus too. Just point out the Santa followers and watch me ridicule them online.

why not invest same amount of effort at debunking, islam, eastern religion, local african religion. Ok,if that's too much try to focus equally on islam , eckankar etc.
More atheists hav never touched d koran but for the bible,they scour it cover to cover , why d biase ? Y not try to b objective in ur attacks?

Fact is that the inclination to Christianity and the fervent attempt to pull it down is not logical.

As for santa the principle is the same. People dont exert themselves over somthing that isnt real. They warn,instruct then leave the deluded one as a fool to his ways.

plaetton:


The Abrahamic religions are synonymous with violence and fraud.
You might as well say that we should leave violence and fraud

you atheists will lie to score cheap points doesnt this prove the deeper insecurities within you all.
Like, the lie this poster just posted.
The NT never advocated anti-human violence.
The OT is ofcourse willfully twisted by atheists.
Since all Christians are in the NT era,this statemnt has no merit.


Like I've said bf,theyre no objective atheists.
No atheists will ever quote any bible verse tht puts God in a good light, yet you all claim you arrived at ur decision to ditch religion from clear rational thinking! spare us the hypocrisy and cr.ap.

asalimpo:


why not invest same amount of effort at debunking, islam, eastern religion, local african religion. Ok,if that's too much try to focus equally on islam , eckankar etc.
More atheists hav never touched d koran but for the bible,they scour it cover to cover , why d biase ? Y not try to b objective in ur attacks?

Fact is that the inclination to Christianity and the fervent attempt to pull it down is not logical.

As for santa the principle is the same. People dont exert themselves over somthing that isnt real. They warn,instruct then leave the deluded one as a fool to his ways.

I assume that you have an open mind, so I'll try to respond as honestly as possible. Most atheists, including myself, grew up in a Christian environment. This means that as a child, I was ALREADY told that Islam and other religions were false. You, no doubt, feel the EXACT same way, unless you tend to hold two contrasting ideas in your head simultaneously.


I used to insult Mohammed as a brainwashed Christian child. It came easily for me, after all, I was "covered with the blood" of another deity and he was the competition. I never insulted Jesus.

I'm only doing now, what I did to Islam in the past. But I feel the same way about ALL organized religions that have a personal, prayer answering God. There's no preference. In response to your question about the Eastern Religion and Local African religion, they do not post that many threads here as advertisement of their Gods. When they do, lemme know and I'll be on it.

asalimpo:


you atheists will lie to score cheap points doesnt this prove the deeper insecurities within you all.
Like, the lie this poster just posted.
The NT never advocated anti-human violence.
The OT is ofcourse willfully twisted by atheists.
Since all Christians are in the NT era,this statemnt has no merit.


Like I've said bf,theyre no objective atheists.
No atheists will ever quote any bible verse tht puts God in a good light, yet you all claim you arrived at ur decision to ditch religion from clear rational thinking! spare us the hypocrisy and cr.ap.

Look how shamefully you are gyrating between not and ot. You seem confused about which one constitutes your religion.
Of course, confusion is inevitable for morons left holding the bag of a bogey foreign religion sold to you by slave merchants a few hundred years ago.
You should be thoroughly ashamed to be waxing ignorantly about nt and ot, two distinctively contradictory religions you know very little about.

I didn't write the ot. In there, your god shows his weakness for young, perhaps under-age virgins, delights in killing and dismembering children , and infants and women, loved burnt flesh, etc.
Are these not all there in the bible?

plaetton:

Look how shamefully you are gyrating between not and ot. You seem confused about which one constitutes your religion.
Of course, confusion is inevitable for morons left holding the bag of a bogey foreign religion sold to you by slave merchants a few hundred years ago.
You should be thoroughly ashamed to be waxing ignorantly about nt and ot, two distinctively contradictory religions you know very little about.

I didn't write the ot. In there, your god shows his weakness for young, perhaps under-age virgins, delights in killing and dismembering children , and infants and women, loved burnt flesh, etc.
Are these not all there in the bible?

It is the same reason for which the fictional Jesus was executed. He came and tried to alter the existing words of Yahweh.

These guys need to make up their minds.

italo:


Oh! You're here again this morning to rant about a non-existent bring?

Do you rant about football fans when they shout in your vicinity during an important match?

Do you rant about the incessant honking of horns on the roads?

Do you rant about all the people playing loud music?

You only choose to rant about God, day and night.

you haven't answered me

I'm no atheist, but I do not accept for one second that the Creator of the universe is the same Being represented in the christian bible as 'God'.

I actually think the bible blasphemes the Creator like no other book published in the history of man.


It takes a special kind of effrontery to publish a book that claims that ''GOD'' asked you to go on killing sprees of children, rap.ing sprees of women, looting sprees, promoted slavery, and has a special burning furnace in place to torture his creation indefinitely.

ROSSIKE:
I'm no atheist, but I do not accept for one second that the Creator of the universe is the same Being represented in the christian bible as 'God'.

I actually think the bible blasphemes the Creator like no other book published in the history of man.


It takes a special kind of effrontery to publish a book that claims that ''GOD'' asked you to go on killing sprees of children, rap.ing sprees of women, looting sprees, promoted slavery, and has a special burning furnace in place to torture his creation indefinitely.

yeah... but if it wasn't the Christian God... would d Christians have something to say about it

pesty100:
yeah... but if it wasn't the Christian God... would d Christians have something to say about it

pesty100:
you haven't answered me

You are just obsessed with God.

I dont rant my whole life about anything i claim doesnt exist.

italo:


You are just obsessed with God.

I dont rant my whole life about anything i claim doesnt exist.

are you gonna answer my question or are you gonna keep on ranting about how am obsessed with a God that doesn't exist

We all talk about superman even though we know he doesn't exist.... But a problem arises when a segment of the population thinks he is real and tries to push him on everybody

pesty100:
We all talk about superman even though we know he doesn't exist.... But a problem arises when a segment of the population thinks he is real and tries to push him on everybody

1. You and who dey talk about superman? Show me the conversations you've had about superman on nairaland.

2. No one is forcing God on you here. How can they?

pesty100:
i was being disturbed by the church doing night vigil yesterday, they were praying and shout that people should give their live to christ. If your sleep is be disturbed for Ogun to be praised will you have something to say about it

I would have something to say about it but i would spend all my strength and life on it...

...and i believe deities like ogun exist.

much less what i believe doesnt exist

italo:


I would have something to say about it but i would spend all my strength and life on it...

...and i believe deities like ogun exist.

much less what i believe doesnt exist

just like I have something to say now... and mind you how have I spent all my strength arguing about your God on naira land... you are free to check my posts if you have any doubts

italo:


1. You and who dey talk about superman? Show me the conversations you've had about superman on nairaland.

2. No one is forcing God on you here. How can they?

I talk about superman or naruto with my junior brother

dont let me go on about no 2

michaelwestern:
My foray on nairaland has proved to me that everybody is born to be religious.

First off,you started on a wrong note bro..Your assertion that "everybody is born to be religious" is very wrong..
Most of us grew up religious because it was forced down on us at a very tender age,when we didn't have the maturity and are incapable of making our decisions..
Just like you were born into a christian family,remember that another person was born into a pagan family,and another into a Muslim family,and another into an atheist parents, and so it goes on..
It is not debatable that at a young and tender age, Your parents control and influence every aspect of your life as long as u remain under their rooftop at that age..They tell you what the believe is wrong or right,good or bad for you,their beliefs, their lies,their faith,their culture,tradition,etc...Not that they will tell you all these,but some you will learn with simple observation..
Now,at a tender age,Your mind is still pure and innocent and does not know what is right or wrong except when being rebuked for certain actions or when you observe other kids around being rebuked..
Now,as this rights and wrongs are being spelt to or observed by you,they register in a part of your personality called "Conscience"..
In Psychology, This conscience is called the Super Ego..It builds up or stores all the physical wrongs or rights you learned or experienced or witnessed or observed overtime in your formative childhood days..But,then the Conscience never stops learning as you grow into adulthood..You build it in your everyday to day activity,and it serves as your personal reminder of what you term wrong and right..That's why while a person sees something as wrong,another might disagree with them..But are they both wrong? No,it just has to do with the way the individual built his conscience.....
Most folks built their conscience with religions commands and laws, from the onset,but being something that is built,when the Id(the real you) presses so much,the conscience is allowed to bend to accept some new views and ideas into its built up...Take sex for example..
Take exam malpractice for example..
Now back to my point,at certain stage for individuals who now feel their parents can't direct their lives forever for them,they rebuild their conscience to believe they are now mature and are ready to take certain responsilities and decisions themselves..When this internal conflict is resolved,the individuals now choose their own religion,some leave religion entirely,some change churches,etc......
Never mistake Morality for Religion,cuz morality is what the individual says its morality and builds into his conscience and not what society says...
Society says Weed,Cigarette is not good for you,but u taste it,it feels good,and you are like "f*ck what society says,am sticking with this!"
In other words bro,No one is born to be religious,you build yourself to be religious or not with early influence from environment and personal experience...

The constant presence of atheists in this section proves this fact. When people convert to atheism a void is created in them.

Another wrong assertion..How do you verify the above statement? Were you once an atheist to have experienced such void? Who told you there is a void atheists experience when they live Religion?

They desperately try to fill this void by consistently arguing against theists on nairaland and anywhere else possible. This partially explains the obsession of atheists with the "christian God".

No atheist is obsessed with any christian god..This a religious section of a forum and because Christianity and Islam are the dominant religion in Nigeria,and because most threads created here are usually the above,do you expect them to sit down and watch you without airing their views?
As atheists are found in christian threads,so are Christians always found in atheist threads...
2ndly,to the real world,Christians are nuisance,going from house disturbing people and pestering people into joining them without minding their own business,setting mics every street corner and shouting as if "to disturb" is a right..No atheist does that,nor a pagan nor a satanist nor a Moslem; Only Christians! Just this online forum to express their views,and now it is a crime!

Atheists, have you ever asked yourselves why you constantly argue about a God you believe does not exist? some of you try to justify this by saying that you are trying stop christians from shoving it in your face and disturbing you with the christian crap as you go about your daily life. The question is, is nairaland the best place to do this? only a small fraction of those who visit nairaland comes to the religion section. Let's assume that everybody on nairaland sees your threads and arguments, how does this help your cause? How many lawmakers, governors and presidents visit nairaland?

Atheists talk about God to waste time or piss of Christians or Moslems as the case may be..
Alternatively,they talk about him so that you will realise that this world right here is what you have and that you should enjoy it,make it better and make your life here count instead of focusing on an imaginary world(heaven) that exists only in Books and fantasy world..
That way,when your government fails you,you look them in the face and tell them "go fork yourselves!",instead of being hypocrites who eat elections money from politicians and expect them to give you back what you already ate a long time ago.That way,you don't depend on silly imaginary prayers like "God will save us or deliver us"
This way,you start willing your mind to " we can't take this sh*t no more,we have to save ourselves!"..

Atheist, please stop crying to us on nairaland, we are not lawmakers. A better way to complain about your supposed oppression by theists will be to protest in front of government facilities, write letters to the lawmakers, sue any theist trampling on your rights to court etc.

No atheist complains to you,you just believe you are being complained to..
2ndly,Nigeria has not reached such level of quick justice dissemination.. Has it been so,many idi*ts who parade themselves as Christians today will think twice before starting any stupid religious nuisance's in the streets!

There's nothing wrong in promoting your religion on nairaland but try to do it in a peaceful manner. Stop mocking and ridiculing the bible and the "christian God" in an effort to promote your religion.

Is atheism a religion?
I don't know. If being reasonable or applying ones logic without letting myths and superstitious beliefs cloud ones eye is a religion,then let them promote it!

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The obsession of Christians with atheists.
Since your God exists why don't you go an pray to him to deliver you from atheists instead of crying here on this thread. Wouldnt that be more productive. After all God apparently answers all prayers. Practise what you preach.

italo:


I come to this forum to talk about God. That's why you only see me on the religion section.

If I only wanted to diss people that disagree with me, I could do that on the politics, sports, romance section...or I could go to an atheist forum...but I don't do these.

You're contradicting urself, its actually religious people who entice the atheist into arguments, hardly will you see an atheist (not a Satanist or Frosbel o) opening an argument based thread here, but if they now start commenting on our thread we opened we now turn around and...............

MRosario:
You're contradicting urself, its actually religious people who entice the atheist into arguments, hardly will you see an atheist (not a Satanist or Frosbel o) opening an argument based thread here, but if they now start commenting on our thread we opened we now turn around and...............

The above is false. See evidence below:

www.nairaland.com/1522807/yahweh-freewill
www.nairaland.com/434436/yahweh-lying-angels
www.nairaland.com/2073914/why-pastors-sell-sermons

Dont even try to challenge it because there are dozens more threads by Atheists just to attack God.

If i were an Atheist, convinced that there is no God, i'd hardly ever visit the "religion" section.

These ones that do so always are insecure and confused.

ROSSIKE:
I'm no atheist, but I do not accept for one second that the Creator of the universe is the same Being represented in the christian bible as 'God'.

I actually think the bible blasphemes the Creator like no other book published in the history of man.


It takes a special kind of effrontery to publish a book that claims that ''GOD'' asked you to go on killing sprees of children, rap.ing sprees of women, looting sprees, promoted slavery, and has a special burning furnace in place to torture his creation indefinitely.

Not an atheist or a follower of an Abrahamic relgion apparently, so what is your delusion then kind sir? I am curious.