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My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by LeslieChow(m): 2:03pm On Jan 01, 2015
First of all, I am not a prophet so this is not a prophecy. Secondly, I am not a politician neither am I sympathetic to any political party. All I want is for our country to be great again.

Here is my dream; few days to the end of December 2014, I had a dream concerning the outcome of the coming election. In the dream, I saw 2 things clearly:

1. PDP won Lagos State
2. APC won the Presidential election

Like I said, this is not a prophecy but a dream I had and wish to share with fellow Nairalanders. If these things happen, I may have to change my name to Joseph cheesy

Please add yours if you have any political dream to share with us.

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Re: My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by sleepking(m): 2:12pm On Jan 01, 2015
shocked
more like a nightmare

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Re: My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by temitemi1(m): 2:18pm On Jan 01, 2015
My brother dis one no be dream ooo but purely nightmare.... GEJ till 2019!!!

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Re: My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by otokx(m): 2:25pm On Jan 01, 2015
Don't think Tinubu will like this dream.
Re: My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by sebali: 2:34pm On Jan 01, 2015
noted
Re: My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by Adminisher: 3:02pm On Jan 01, 2015
Speak to people on the streets of Lagos and you will find that it is actually possible.
The problem areas are Lekki axis, Ikorodu and the large number of Ibo people who are not too enamoured of Fashola.

The Federal election result prediction is even more possible than a PDP win for Lagos.

I keep looking at the map and the states and it is a NO GO for Jonathan. In order to deal with internal party opposition to a GEJ presidency they have destroyed the fabric of the party. Plenty confusion regarding governorship candidates and senatorial candidates and all that dynamic. There is no money anywhere so no guarantees that patronage dispensers will keep promises.

This fact will de motivate northern governors from opposing the Buhari forces arrayed against them coupled with the fact that they are under subtle physical threats. So almost certainly all, states in the North including major parts of North Central for Buhari.
South West is for a Buhari presidency even more than they are even for APC as a party but many political neophytes may not understand this subtle fact. Jonathan does not connect with the man on the street in core SW as he does in SE. He has not positioned himself properly and has a lot of tainted people in his camp. The only solid people he has on his side are the Akinjides and some old smouldering fires in Ogun and Osun States.

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Re: My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by LeslieChow(m): 3:10pm On Jan 01, 2015
otokx:
Don't think Tinubu will like this dream.

Don't you think Tinubu may consider it a small price to pay to attain power at the federal level. He may later use his connection up there to win Lagos back in 2019.

My opinion though. I ain't no politician

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Re: My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by Flye: 3:18pm On Jan 01, 2015
LeslieChow:
First of all, I am not a prophet so this is not a prophecy. Secondly, I am not a politician neither am I sympathetic to any political party. All I want is for our country to be great again.

Here is my dream; few days to the end of December 2014, I had a dream concerning the outcome of the coming election. In the dream, I saw 2 things clearly:

1. PDP won Lagos State
2. APC won the Presidential election

Like I said, this is not a prophecy but a dream I had and wish to share with fellow Nairalanders. If these things happen, I may have to change my name to Joseph cheesy

Please add yours if you have any political dream to share with us.

This is not just a dream, this is what everybody on the street know.
If you check the mood everywhere except southeast and probably south south you will know that the popularity of the president is like that of Yaradua's wife and the wicked ministers around her in 2009. The only thing that can change this is miracle which may come through rigging.

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Re: My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by laimo(m): 4:07pm On Jan 01, 2015
You only need to listen to the poor vegetable seller,mechanics,taxi and bus drivers-they are the real voters-to know it's a great likelihood Buhari wins in Lagos at least.Momentum is on Buhari's side.
Re: My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by Marvin67: 4:25pm On Jan 01, 2015
Flye:


This is not just a dream, this is what everybody on the street know.
If you check the mood everywhere except southeast and probably south south you will know that the popularity of the president is like that of Yaradua's wife and the wicked ministers around her in 2009. The only thing that can change this is miracle which may come through rigging.

I guess by the mood everywhere you mean the mood in Lagos, other southwest states and online.

I've always said the North would be the deciding factor here. The number of Votes GEJ would win in the South east ans South south will be more than the number of votes he'd lose in the south west.

Don't think the north is one dimensional. The North is divided into three. There's the core (Hausa) north. There's the north that hates been associated with anything Hausa as they see themselves as being marginalised greatly by the hausas, there's a Christian north that (unfortunately) are not enlightened enough to put aside religious sentiments. The northern votes wouldn't go massively for GMB, you'd be suprised at the number of votes GEJ would pull out of the north.

No where in the world has elections been won online. I remember when George Bush was going for second term, 80% of americans voted him out online, but in real life he won the election. The internet is filled with so many people who are not even registered voters, and most of the comments you read online are still from the Lagos people. APC is winning the online polls, but PDP is going into rural areas where the people don't even know GMB or GEJ, sensitizing the people on how to vote, and giving them rice at the end of the day, those people would vote for PDP. Both parties have adopted different strategies, but if you ask me, PDP's strategy would yield more results at the polls because that's where it matters. Elections are won in the field not online.

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Re: My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by Flye: 4:31pm On Jan 01, 2015
Marvin67:


I guess by the mood everywhere you mean the mood in Lagos, other southwest states and online.

I've always said the North would be the deciding factor here. The number of Votes GEJ would win in the South east ans South south will be more than the number of votes he'd lose in the south west.

Don't think the north is one dimensional. The North is divided into three. There's the core (Hausa) north. There's the north that hates been associated with anything Hausa as they see themselves as being marginalised greatly by the hausas, there's a Christian north that (unfortunately) are not enlightened enough to put aside religious sentiments. The northern votes wouldn't go massively for GMB, you'd be suprised at the number of votes GEJ would pull out of the north.

No where in the world has elections been won online. I remember when George Bush was going for second term, 80% of americans voted him out online, but in real life he won the election. The internet is filled with so many people who are not even registered voters, and most of the comments you read online are still from the Lagos people. APC is winning the online polls, but PDP is going into rural areas where the people don't even know GMB or GEJ, sensitizing the people on how to vote, and giving them rice at the end of the day, those people would vote for PDP. Both parties have adopted different strategies, but if you ask me, PDP's strategy would yield more results at the polls because that's where it matters. Elections are won in the field not online.

Look I'm not based in Southwest, I'm based in Abuja and you can feel it around even in fct, we went to Benue and people were complaining as hell although most of their anger is against there state governor but they just feel PDP is the problem I don't know if it will have any effect on the presidential election though.
Re: My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by SweetJoystick(m): 4:48pm On Jan 01, 2015
LeslieChow:
First of all, I am not a prophet so this is not a prophecy. Secondly, I am not a politician neither am I sympathetic to any political party. All I want is for our country to be great again.

Here is my dream; few days to the end of December 2014, I had a dream concerning the outcome of the coming election. In the dream, I saw 2 things clearly:

1. PDP won Lagos State
2. APC won the Presidential election

Like I said, this is not a prophecy but a dream I had and wish to share with fellow Nairalanders. If these things happen, I may have to change my name to Joseph cheesy

Please add yours if you have any political dream to share with us.
Loosing Lagos to Agbaje (PDP) won't be bad after all if the central seat of power is captured, Agbaje is reliable unlike Obanikoro, Lagos would still progress with Agbaje at the helm of affairs
Re: My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by Marvin67: 5:07pm On Jan 01, 2015
Flye:


Look I'm not based in Southwest, I'm based in Abuja and you can feel it around even in fct, we went to Benue and people were complaining as hell although most of their anger is against there state governor but they just feel PDP is the problem I don't know if it will have any effect on the presidential election though.
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Ok. The governor of Benue state performed woefully. But Benue is one of those states that would massively return GEJ in the presidential elections. I'd tell you why. Benue falls into that category of the North that feels the hausa's/fulani's always want to marginalize them. They also gain from this present arrangement, as their son (David Mark ) is the number 3 man in the country. If GMB wins, that could be altered. PDP may lose the governorship of benue because of Suswam's failure, but I can bet you GEJ would win in Benue.

I still emphasise, that PDP is taking the campaign down to the rural areas, giving the people rice and other things. That is where the votes come from not from the internet.

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Re: My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by Flye: 5:27pm On Jan 01, 2015
Marvin67:
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Ok. The governor of Benue state performed woefully. But Benue is one of those states that would massively return GEJ in the presidential elections. I'd tell you why. Benue falls into that category of the North that feels the hausa's/fulani's always want to marginalize them. They also gain from this present arrangement, as their son (David Mark ) is the number 3 man in the country. If GMB wins, that could be altered. PDP may lose the governorship of benue because of Suswam's failure, but I can bet you GEJ would win in Benue.

I still emphasise, that PDP is taking the campaign down to the rural areas, giving the people rice and other things. That is where the votes come from not from the internet.

I know all this, that is why I said "i don't know if it will affect the presidential election" but you must still take it to account that apart from tribal /religion sentiment issue PDP has performed woefully. opposition may not necessarily be an angel but we can't keep voting base on religion or tribal sentiment. Infact the reason why I hate this administration more is because of this silly religion and tribal sentimental politics they play. I prefer you tell me what you have done and what you intend to do than saying I'm Yoruba or Hausa or Igbo or eficki Ibibio edo etc. It breeds hatred, prejudice and division most importantly it gives a false information that the government in concern has not done anything. I prefer a government who blows his wistle louder than it achievement than a government who rely on division tactics and uses of what ever sentiment to get people's interest.
Re: My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by Marvin67: 5:58pm On Jan 01, 2015
Flye:


I know all this, that is why I said "i don't know if it will affect the presidential election" but you must still take it to account that apart from tribal /religion sentiment issue PDP has performed woefully. opposition may not necessarily be an angel but we can't keep voting base on religion or tribal sentiment. Infact the reason why I hate this administration more is because of this silly religion and tribal sentimental politics they play. I prefer you tell me what you have done and what you intend to do than saying I'm Yoruba or Hausa or Igbo or eficki Ibibio edo etc. It breeds hatred, prejudice and division most importantly it gives a false information that the government in concern has not done anything. I prefer a government who blows his wistle louder than it achievement than a government who rely on division tactics and uses of what ever sentiment to get people's interest.

Unfortunately, this is Nigeria, and that is what we have on ground. You can go into this tread to see how sentimental Nigerians are www.nairaland.com/2064467/igbo-group-lagos-writes-fashola. The idea here tells you that the idea of one Nigeria is more of a mere talk than a reality.

I've always said that GEJ's biggest problem is not the APC, but his biggest problem are the people around him and his media aides. They are playing to the gallery of the APC. GEJ has made some very good achievements that some Nigerians are not even aware of. Yesterday, I told one man that GEJ has built 125 almajiri schools in the north (which no other president had done) and the man found it hard to believe. The likes of Doyin Okupe should be showcasing his achievements instead of making it look like he's relying on religion or ethnic sentiment. The opposition on the other hand is very vocal. You don't expect them to tell you the achievements of GEJ, instead they'd look at his fault, exaggerate it and keep singing it to the people. Overtime the people would know more of GEJ's faults than his achievements. That is exactly what has happened. And it's all the fault of GEJ's media men.

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Re: My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by Adminisher: 6:14pm On Jan 01, 2015
Marvin67:


I guess by the mood everywhere you mean the mood in Lagos, other southwest states and online.

I've always said the North would be the deciding factor here. The number of Votes GEJ would win in the South east ans South south will be more than the number of votes he'd lose in the south west.

Don't think the north is one dimensional. The North is divided into three. There's the core (Hausa) north. There's the north that hates been associated with anything Hausa as they see themselves as being marginalised greatly by the hausas, there's a Christian north that (unfortunately) are not enlightened enough to put aside religious sentiments. The northern votes wouldn't go massively for GMB, you'd be suprised at the number of votes GEJ would pull out of the north.

No where in the world has elections been won online. I remember when George Bush was going for second term, 80% of americans voted him out online, but in real life he won the election. The internet is filled with so many people who are not even registered voters, and most of the comments you read online are still from the Lagos people. APC is winning the online polls, but PDP is going into rural areas where the people don't even know GMB or GEJ, sensitizing the people on how to vote, and giving them rice at the end of the day, those people would vote for PDP. Both parties have adopted different strategies, but if you ask me, PDP's strategy would yield more results at the polls because that's where it matters. Elections are won in the field not online.

The marginalization you are talking about is phantom. There is xtian Muslim dynamic in the north that a Jonathan Presidency can never ameliorate. Note that the so called agreement between northern PDP governors and Jonathan was that the Presidency goes back to the north not necessarily to a Christian. Tribalism trumps religion because the last few years were actually the only time there has been a religious divide in the north so there has been a century of religious tolerance and in that time we had a Christian Gowon rulling for more than eight years, Danjuma almost No. 2 man Iyorchia Aug, Shahu, Unongo, Pam and all sorts of prominent Christians being thrown up. Also all Christian opinion makers in the north are practically all retired generals and Buhari has some good rep. with this people. A lot of people are actually accessing the Jonathan presidency unfairly of engineering most of the religious tension and so called Fulani attacks in conjunction with some foreign intelligence agencies to break the monolithic nature of the north. Whether true or not the story is already out there.
Re: My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by Flye: 6:30pm On Jan 01, 2015
Marvin67:


Unfortunately, this is Nigeria, and that is what we have on ground. You can go into this tread to see how sentimental Nigerians are www.nairaland.com/2064467/igbo-group-lagos-writes-fashola. The idea here tells you that the idea of one Nigeria is more of a mere talk than a reality.

I've always said that GEJ's biggest problem is not the APC, but his biggest problem are the people around him and his media aides. They are playing to the gallery of the APC. GEJ has made some very good achievements that some Nigerians are not even aware of. Yesterday, I told one man that GEJ has built 125 almajiri schools in the north (which no other president had done) and the man found it hard to believe. The likes of Doyin Okupe should be showcasing his achievements instead of making it look like he's relying on religion or ethnic sentiment. The opposition on the other hand is very vocal. You don't expect them to tell you the achievements of GEJ, instead they'd look at his fault, exaggerate it and keep singing it to the people. Overtime the people would know more of GEJ's faults than his achievements. That is exactly what has happened. And it's all the fault of GEJ's media men.

WoooooooooW!!!!!!! You are the most intelligent Gej's fan I have ever seen.
If many of his people thinks like you do, Jonathan does not need all this dirty politics, he would have won with landslide vote but the clueless fans and his media aid re so dull that they create more enemies than than friends. Imagine because opposition stressed Jeg weaknesses they termed it hatred(Muslim/Christian or minority/majority) instead of them to sing the praise of his strength.
Honestly it is an honor to have a debate with you.
Re: My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by stevecantrell: 7:18pm On Jan 01, 2015
LeslieChow:
First of all, I am not a prophet so this is not a prophecy. Secondly, I am not a politician neither am I sympathetic to any political party. All I want is for our country to be great again.

Here is my dream; few days to the end of December 2014, I had a dream concerning the outcome of the coming election. In the dream, I saw 2 things clearly:

1. PDP won Lagos State
2. APC won the Presidential election

Like I said, this is not a prophecy but a dream I had and wish to share with fellow Nairalanders. If these things happen, I may have to change my name to Joseph cheesy

Please add yours if you have any political dream to share with us.

Your 'dream' is plausible.

The consequence of Fashola's chequered style of governance may make number 1 possible. However, I don't think PDP is really the best for Lagos State. I would have preferred an APC without Fashola , Tinubu and other hypocrites to continue running Lagos.

If the the trend we are seeing online translates into actual votes at the ballot box, then APC would definitely take the Presidential election. There is no surprise there.

The question is what will INEC actually announce or in who's favour will the tribunal rule ?
Re: My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by IdomaLikita: 7:45pm On Jan 01, 2015
Marvin67:
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Ok. The governor of Benue state performed woefully. But Benue is one of those states that would massively return GEJ in the presidential elections. I'd tell you why. Benue falls into that category of the North that feels the hausa's/fulani's always want to marginalize them. They also gain from this present arrangement, as their son (David Mark ) is the number 3 man in the country. If GMB wins, that could be altered. PDP may lose the governorship of benue because of Suswam's failure, but I can bet you GEJ would win in Benue.

I still emphasise, that PDP is taking the campaign down to the rural areas, giving the people rice and other things. That is where the votes come from not from the internet.

PDP will lose woefully in Benue State! I was at my Town Hall meeting this Christmas where it was decided that We should collect the Rice and still go ahead to vote Buhari..the so-called Senate President arrangement only favours the Elites who would sit in their Air-conditioned homes and watch the Election results on TV!(The Grassroot people HATE him, trust me)
PDP is so used to doling out cash and letting it work the Magic! Whereas the Opposition is working out more effectives means!
The problem PDP has is that it refuses to see that Voters are better Enlightened now than before, and the Consistency of Buhari's Candidature (since 2009) is a Strong selling point for Rural Folks who see his 3rd Term Bid as God's Final Call!
The Masses of Unemployed Youth from the City who returned to spend the Xmas with their Parents in the Village did a lot of Sensitization for the Opposition by telling their Aged Parents(who do all the Voting) whom the cause of their Predicaments is!
Various Staff Unions are holding meetings and telling their Unions to vote APC en-mass (state Branches of NUT, ASUP, JOHESU etc), Don't you think the individual members of these Unions have constituents to convince?

The typical PDP Agent is giving 100k to give to a particular Chief or Youth Leader! He goes to the Chiefs house at Night to give him 50k to share among the elders and keeps d rest 4 himself!
While the APC guy,buys a Persian Rug for the Palace of the Chief and a few furniture-which will continue to grace the palace long after the Elections!

Which is more effective?

PDP's biggest problem in this election is over-confidence!
Re: My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by LeslieChow(m): 7:50pm On Jan 01, 2015
stevecantrell:


If the the trend we are seeing online translates into actual votes at the ballot box, then APC would definitely take the Presidential election. There is no surprise there.


This is particularly true. Online discuss tend to be leaning in favor of APC at the federal level. Then again like u said, it is yet to be seen if the online debate will be translated to actual votes.
Re: My Dream Concerning The Outcome Of 2015 Election by LeslieChow(m): 7:38am On Apr 01, 2015
Good to know that one of my dream came true. Waiting to see if the second one will come to pass before I declare myself a self made prophet.

Meanwhile, congratulations to the President-elect, Gen Muhammadu Buhari for a well deserved victory.

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