One more thing- I forgot this:

KunleOshob:

@Analytical
Tanx for your response but i must still comment that you failed to state any where in the bible were it was expressly stated that a man should not marry more than one wife even when there are several examples of polygamist in the bible that were never condenmed by God. All your inferences can at best be said to imply a man is expected to marry one wife.

The truth is God will not overrule the human freewill.  But He will also not spare the consequences of wrong choices!  The scriptures are written for our examples and learning. We shouldn't repeat the mistakes of others. Show me one example of a polygamist that didn't have enough troubles to pay for going against the original design.  How else do you want God to show His disapproval against what he didn't intend in the beginning?  Also, show me a single case in the NT of a believer that is polygamous.

Do you know that Bathseba (she should know, if you ask me!) the mother of Solomon (also called Lemuel) gave him a good counsel about polygamy, which he didn't follow?

Proverbs 31
1 The words of king Lemuel, the prophecy that his mother taught him.
2 What, my son? and what, the son of my womb? and what, the son of my vows?
3 Give not thy strength unto women, nor thy ways to that which destroyeth kings.

It's obvious Solomon didn't follow this counsel.  You know his conclusion at the end of his escapades?  'All is vanity'

A man is expected and designed to marry one wife.  If by precepts upon precepts this is implied in the scriptures, then a principle is formed.

There was never any such directive. Mind you i am not advocating polygamy, one woman is enough problem talkless of two or three i am just trying to be clear what the bible directs and not what men interprete the bible to mean.

Why trouble?  She should be your favour.  Two are better than one, also says the scriptures.

Pro[b]v 18:22[/b] Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the LORD

Take care and God bless.

Analytical:

KunleOshob, how readest thou?  Let God be true and all men liars!  I use study materials too.  One must be able to rightly divide the word.  They are supposed to be study aids and not replacing the Divine Word of God.  If any commentary runs contrary to the Written Word, then The Word superceeds.

Going back to Strong's, I can't even see how what you quoted above speaks specifically at women alone!  if you check the definition very well the way it was written: adulterer(-ess).  This is giving the male and female use of the word- the female use being the (-ess) in braces, i.e adulteress.  In other words adulterer refers to a male and adulteress, a female.  So from that definition from Strong- it should simply be read as:

                adulterer commits adultery; adulteress is a woman that breaketh wedlock

Please, we should be careful how we interpret and use these aids.  God couldn't have been mincing words with that word 'adultery' when he penned the 7th commandment with His own finger on that table of stone in the wilderness in Exodus 20:14 (also in Deut 5:18)

Thou shalt not commit adultery.

He wasn't just referring to any gender.  'Thou', 'You'! Male or Female!!  In fact, let me add a few scriptures for better understanding:

Prov. 6:32 But whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding: he that doeth it destroyeth his own soul.

Matt 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Luke 16:18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.

Mark 10:11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.

Matt 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart

I won't stretch this if I were you.  You are simply misinterpreting Strong's definition.

God bless.

Please read your own posts again clearly a man commits adultery only when he is involved with a married woman. I know you would find it difficult to take away from your mind of what you have always believed to be true. But it is quite glaring that the term adultery is invoked only when a married woman is involved, if the woman is not married, it is not regarded as adultery even if the man involved is married.

@analytical
the example of bathsheba you gave is a very poor one. Are you aware that King Solomon is a product of Adultery commited by King David with Bathsheba whose husband David sent to the war front to die when Bathsheba was pregnant As i said earlier i am personally against polygamy, but i am yet to see where the bible forbids or condenms it in clear terms. Several great and blessed men of God in the bible were polygamist and God never condenmed, rebuke or punish them for this act. All the excuses you have been giving on the issue of polygamy don't hold any water and they lack substance.

KunleOshob:

@analytical
the example of bathsheba you gave is a very poor one. Are you aware that King Solomon is a product of Adultery commited by King David with Bathsheba whose husband David sent to the war front to die when Bathsheba was pregnant As i said earlier i am personally against polygamy, but i am yet to see where the bible forbids or condenms it in clear terms. Several great and blessed men of God in the bible were polygamist and God never condenmed, rebuke or punish them for this act. All the excuses you have been giving on the issue of polygamy don't hold any water and they lack substance.

Its not the fault of the child is it? and mind u solomon is not the child of adultery the child died.

KunleOshob:

Please read your own posts again clearly a man commits adultery only when he is involved with a married woman. I know you would find it difficult to take away from your mind of what you have always believed to be true. But it is quite glaring that the term adultery is invoked only when a married woman is involved, if the woman is not married, it is not regarded as adultery even if the man involved is married.

Yes it difficult to believe what is not true. In christ theres neither male or female free or bound we will all be judged with the same measure.

Matt 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart

at a woman not at another mans wife.

Kunle, the truth God is written in our heart (except if it has been seared with hot iron ) no longer on tablets or paper if we search deep enough u will know whats right.

I don't know what you guys are arguing here. Polygamy is not only a moral evil but a social evil also. The man should present his first wife to God and excommunicate himself from other wives chikena. If you want to follow Christ, you must carry a cross.

I don't know what you guys are arguing here. Polygamy is not only a moral evil but a social evil also. The man should present his first wife to God and excommunicate himself from other wives chikena. If you want to follow Christ, you must carry a cross.

Will you like your mother to be excommunicated that way? . Easier said than done.

KunleOshob:

Please read your own posts again clearly a man commits adultery only when he is involved with a married woman. I know you would find it difficult to take away from your mind of what you have always believed to be true. But it is quite glaring that the term adultery is invoked only when a married woman is involved, if the woman is not married, it is not regarded as adultery even if the man involved is married.

KunleOshob!!!!!. I have a feeling you didn't bother to read those scriptures. Really, I don't know what we are debating here. A married person (man or woman) involved sexually with another person (married or not) has committed adultery. Likewise an unmarried person involved sexually with another person commits fornication. Both are sins. Don't tell me you mean the man in your example above is innocent!

Please, go over the texts again. If you put away your wife, that is divorce. If she marries anybody, she commits adultery. If you marry any other person too, you commit adultery. I didn't say that, Jesus did! He even took it further by saying even if you look lustfully on a woman (married or not) you commit adultery already in your heart! How else could this be more plain, except you chose not to believe it? This is why a polygamist is living in adultery! If you are already married and you go after someone else, it is adultery. Plain and simple.

God made man and made one woman from his ribs. He could have made many women from his ribs and presented them to Adam! But look at what He said:

Gen. 2:18 Then the LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone; I will make him a helper suitable for him."

This is who a wife is- a helper, companion! Singular! Not helpers!! Look at it again in the words of Apostle Paul as inspired by the Holy Spirit:

1 Cor 7:2 But because of immoralities, each man is to have his own wife, and each woman is to have her own husband.

What more could be more specific than this, I ask KunleOshob? I asked you earlier on to give me a single, just one, example of a practising Christian in the NT who had more than one wife. You have not done that. Please do a study of the whole of chapter 7 of 1 Corinthians. It deals with the issue of marriage and sexual sins in the church.

KunleOshob:

@analytical
the example of bathsheba you gave is a very poor one. Are you aware that King Solomon is a product of Adultery commited by King David with Bathsheba whose husband David sent to the war front to die when Bathsheba was pregnant As i said earlier i am personally against polygamy, but i am yet to see where the bible forbids or condenms it in clear terms. Several great and blessed men of God in the bible were polygamist and God never condenmed, rebuke or punish them for this act. All the excuses you have been giving on the issue of polygamy don't hold any water and they lack substance.

I purposely gave the Bathsheba example. It is very apt here, seeing that she was involved in adultery and had firsthand experience of the evil of it and polygamy. She was instructing her son based on her experiences and how to avoid pitfalls of his father. It will interest you to read Proverbs 5 and see further instructions:

Prov 5:
15 Drink water from your own cistern
And fresh water from your own well.
16 Should your springs be dispersed abroad,
Streams of water in the streets?
17 Let them be yours alone
And not for strangers with you.
18 Let your fountain be blessed,
And rejoice in the wife of your youth.
19 As a loving hind and a graceful doe,
Let her breasts satisfy you at all times;
Be exhilarated always with her love.
20 For why should you, my son, be exhilarated with an adulteress
And embrace the bosom of a foreigner?
21 For the ways of a man are before the eyes of the LORD,
And He watches all his paths.
22 His own iniquities will capture the wicked,
And he will be held with the cords of his sin.
23 He will die for lack of instruction,
And in the greatness of his folly he will go astray.

Let me ask you- many great men of God couldn't discipline their children in the scriptures too. Should we assume we are to follow their examples? 'Excuses' you call them. Well, I don't. All I did was to quote the handwriting of God and the words of the Lord Himself.

I have shown you the original purpose of God for marriage. Sin enterred and the heart of man became desperately wicked and evil. Then they started multiplying wives and divorcing them. The Lord Jesus said because of the hardness of their hearts Moses permitted them to divorce (thereby going into polygamy). But Jesus said 'from the beginning, it was not so'!! The Lord Jesus, as the second and last Adam came and restored us back to the original purpose of God. If you believe in the Lord, then you will believe what He said as quoted severally above.

The Lord bless you.

@Analytical
you still have been unable to state any scripture that categorically condenms polygamy or instructs christians not to involve in polygamy. I won't bother to analyse the twisted logic in your last post of trying to equate adultery to polygamy.

God bless you Jokepearl.  I couldn't agree more with you.

Emeka.Alloy, I believe judgement should be balanced with grace.  That was why even though God said Abraham should send away Hagar, Abraham still made provision for her and Ishmael.  God even promised her and the child too that He will take care of them.

I believe the man should present his first wife if he actually married her (not just impregnating her) as his true wife.  The other two women should be provided for and their kids.  They are the mothers of his children so it will be wicked to abandon them pennyless.  Even the law will be on their side for upkeep.  But as far as marriage is concerned, he should not relate with them sexually as wives.  They also don't have to live with him again.  They are free to marry their own husdands if they want to.  The man may establish businesses for them if he has the means.

What I find curious, however, is why the church accepted the last wife as his wife!  Is he saying he didn't originally marry any of them at all?

KunleOshob:

@Analytical
you still have been unable to state any scripture that categorically condenms polygamy or instructs christians not to involve in polygamy. I won't bother to analyse the twisted logic in your last post of trying to equate adultery to polygamy.

Kunle, you mean you actually refused to see it in all the scriptures.  You don't have to agree with me, you know.  But adultery is at the root of polygamy!  If you accept what adultery is, according to the scriptures and not your interpretation of it, then it becomes so easy to see that he who marries another woman apart from his first wife (that is polygamy) who is still alive commits adultery! That it is acceptable culturally and socially doesn't make it christian!

Please state where polygamy is approved for Christians.  You have not been able to put up a single scripture to justify your position.  Or did I miss it?

Analytical:

Kunle, you mean you actually refused to see it in all the scriptures. You don't have to agree with me, you know. But adultery is at the root of polygamy! If you accept what adultery is, according to the scriptures and not your interpretation of it, then it becomes so easy to see that he who marries another woman apart from his first wife (that is polygamy) who is still alive commits adultery!

I still maintain there is no clear instruction in the bible that prohibits polygamy and the definition i gave for adultery is not my definition but the Original hebrew definition from the bible as opposed to the church definition which most people assume is the correct one

Analytical:

Please state where polygamy is approved for Christians. You have not been able to put up a single scripture to justify your position. Or did I miss it?

I never stated that polygamy is approved for christians neither am i trying to justify, defend or support it. But the truth must be told the bible does not forbid polygamy. And that is an undeniable fact. all the scripture you posted further goes to justify my point.

I still maintain there is no clear instruction in the bible that prohibits polygamy

If by 'clear instruction' you mean 'Thou shall not practise polygamy' then you won't, just the same way you won't find such on so many other doctrines directly, eg. trinity, rapture etc, using the same exact words.  But the principles and doctrines are so clear adding scriptures upon scriptures.  Moreover, we are discussing Christians and I am yet to see a single one example of an approved polygamist in the NT.

and the definition i gave for adultery is not my definition but the Original hebrew definition from the bible as opposed to the church definition which most people assume is the correct one

That is your own definition, definitely.  The bible did not give you that definition.  God said 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY'.  I asked you a question earlier on,  who was God addressing in that 7th commandment?  A man, woman or both?  Do you require a certain hebrew dictionary to understand that?

I never stated that polygamy is approved for christians neither am i trying to justify, defend or support it. But the truth must be told the bible does not forbid polygamy. And that is an undeniable fact. all the scripture you posted further goes to justify my point.

Then you have not been studying the complete Biblical teaching on the subject.  I will rather believe what my Lord revealed in His Word about it.  To avoid sexual immorality, let each man marry his own wife!  Not wives.  Husband of one wife!  Wife of one husband!  Whatever God has joined together, let no man (or woman) put asunder.  Polygamy is not for Christians.  It is contrary to the NT.

@Analytical
I won't continue this debate less some people assume i am advocating for polygamy, but i believe my point as been made. Cheers.

Neither do I like going round in circles. But I believe my point is made too. May the Lord give us understanding.

Thanks.

@Kunle

Here is the answer to your question.  Check out the main word "one" in all the scriptures

http://www.openbible.info/topics/multiple_wives

Peace

@Analytical,

You have given a line upon line and precept upon precept explanation of this topic, I could'nt explain any better.  However, may I just add this commandment God gave to king Solomon in the verse below:

Deuteronomy 17:17
And he shall not multiply wives to himself, that his [mind and] heart turn not away; neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.
Deuteronomy 17:16-18 (in Context) Deuteronomy 17 (Whole Chapter)  

Did Solomon take heed to this instruction?

God knew that multiplying wives would lead to sensuality and idolatory and then to apostacy (Ex.34:16).  This is exactly what happened in Solomon's reign (1Kg.11:1-13).  This law forbade what was only customary among all oriental monarchs; God was demanding a higher standard in the king of Israel than seen among his equals in other nations.  The Christian must also follow this highest standard.  No true child of God will multiply wives to himself because God who instituted marriage in the first place did not create more than one wife for Adam.

Remain blessed.

Analytical:

If by 'clear instruction' you mean 'Thou shall not practise polygamy' then you won't, just the same way you won't find such on so many other doctrines directly, eg. trinity, rapture etc, using the same exact words.  But the principles and doctrines are so clear adding scriptures upon scriptures.  Moreover, we are discussing Christians and I am yet to see a single one example of an approved polygamist in the NT.


That is your own definition, definitely.  The bible did not give you that definition.  God said 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY'.  I asked you a question earlier on,  who was God addressing in that 7th commandment?  A man, woman or both?  Do you require a certain hebrew dictionary to understand that?

Then you have not been studying the complete Biblical teaching on the subject.  I will rather believe what my Lord revealed in His Word about it.  To avoid sexual immorality, let each man marry his own wife!  Not wives.  Husband of one wife!  Wife of one husband!  Whatever God has joined together, let no man (or woman) put asunder.  Polygamy is not for Christians.  It is contrary to the NT.

There is no injunction against committing adultery in the TEN COMMANDMENTS. The words "TEN COMMANDMENTS" is used with reference to Exodus 34 and never in connection with Exodus 20. Further the commandments in Exodus 20 were replaced by those in Exodus 34, with does not bar adultery. Hope, you learnt something

Polygamy is evil plain and simple. Drug dealing is also evil and cannot be seen in the bible, abi? or is it right because you cannot find it in the bible?.

earTHMama:

Polygamy is evil plain and simple. Drug dealing is also evil and cannot be seen in the bible, abi? or is it right because you cannot find it in the bible?.

a good analogy. i think you're onto something here but i know some folks may want to play devil's advocate.

Peace

a good analogy. i think you're onto something here but i know some folks may want to play devil's advocate.

Peace

No, am not.

huxley:

There is no injunction against committing adultery in the TEN COMMANDMENTS. The words "TEN COMMANDMENTS" is used with reference to Exodus 34 and never in connection with Exodus 20. Further the commandments in Exodus 20 were replaced by those in Exodus 34, with does not bar adultery. Hope, you learnt something

Huxley!!!  You never cease to amaze me.  While I respect your rational and thought-provoking posts on nature and other topics, what I find amusing is the way you keep grabbing your Bible on religious posts (very strange for someone who is self-proclaimed atheist) and brandishing your 'discoveries', albeit lopsided, like Archimedes! 

Let me reiterate here loud and clear that the TEN COMMANDMENTS are as stated in Exodus 20.  The 7th bars adultery.  When Moses broke the first tablets of stone, the commandments were repeated in the 2nd tablets of stone exactly as the first:

Exodus 34
1 Now the LORD said to Moses, "Cut out for yourself two stone tablets like the former ones, and I will write on the tablets the words that were on the former tablets which you shattered

God wrote the same 10 commandments on the tablets and still went further to give additional instructions and statutes for them to observe.  When they got to the promised land, Moses gave an address in Deuteronomy 5 and repeated the same 10 commandments as in Exodus 20 (and other statutes) to the whole gathering of Israel:

Deuteronomy 5:
1 Then Moses summoned all Israel and said to them: "Hear, O Israel, the statutes and the ordinances which I am speaking today in your hearing, that you may learn them and observe them carefully.  

Verses 6-21 contain the 10 commandments exactly as in Exodus 20.  See the verse 18 of it:

Deut 5: 18 'You shall not commit adultery'.

The same commandments are quoted variously all over the Bible (Old and New Testaments) by various people at various times spanning thousands of years.  The tablets of stone containing the commandments were kept inside the Ark of the Covenant (with other items) for remembrance of God's covenant with them.

Huxley, please be sure next time before exclaiming 'eureka'!

@OLAADEGBU, thanks and God bless. You gave a very apt and clear additional scripture. Not surprisingly, people (not referring to anyone in particular) will still find a reason to do whatever they want to do.

@earTHMama, you are right. In fact, there are a number of issues you won't find a direct scripture on, but on which the scriptures are clear about, only if one is willing and sincere to search.

The Lord bless us all as we mature in Him. Amen.

funmi you will make a great 3rd wife. you like the bizness too much

Analytical:

Huxley!!!  You never cease to amaze me.  While I respect your rational and thought-provoking posts on nature and other topics, what I find amusing is the way you keep grabbing your Bible on religious posts (very strange for someone who is self-proclaimed atheist) and brandishing your 'discoveries', albeit lopsided, like Archimedes! 

Let me reiterate here loud and clear that the TEN COMMANDMENTS are as stated in Exodus 20.  The 7th bars adultery.  When Moses broke the first tablets of stone, the commandments were repeated in the 2nd tablets of stone exactly as the first:

Exodus 34
1 Now the LORD said to Moses, "Cut out for yourself two stone tablets like the former ones, and I will write on the tablets the words that were on the former tablets which you shattered

God wrote the same 10 commandments on the tablets and still went further to give additional instructions and statutes for them to observe.  When they got to the promised land, Moses gave an address in Deuteronomy 5 and repeated the same 10 commandments as in Exodus 20 (and other statutes) to the whole gathering of Israel:

Deuteronomy 5:
1 Then Moses summoned all Israel and said to them: "Hear, O Israel, the statutes and the ordinances which I am speaking today in your hearing, that you may learn them and observe them carefully.  

Verses 6-21 contain the 10 commandments exactly as in Exodus 20.  See the verse 18 of it:

Deut 5: 18 'You shall not commit adultery'.

The same commandments are quoted variously all over the Bible (Old and New Testaments) by various people at various times spanning thousands of years.  The tablets of stone containing the commandments were kept inside the Ark of the Covenant (with other items) for remembrance of God's covenant with them.

Huxley, please be sure next time before exclaiming 'eureka'!  

Let us examine Exodus 34 and see if it bars adultery.  This is Exodus 34 in its entirety:

1 The LORD said to Moses, "Chisel out two stone tablets like the first ones, and I will write on them the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke.
2 Be ready in the morning, and then come up on Mount Sinai. Present yourself to me there on top of the mountain.
3 No one is to come with you or be seen anywhere on the mountain; not even the flocks and herds may graze in front of the mountain."
4 So Moses chiseled out two stone tablets like the first ones and went up Mount Sinai early in the morning, as the LORD had commanded him; and he carried the two stone tablets in his hands.
5 Then the LORD came down in the cloud and stood there with him and proclaimed his name, the LORD.
6 And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, "The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness,
7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation."
8 Moses bowed to the ground at once and worshiped.
9 "O Lord, if I have found favor in your eyes," he said, "then let the Lord go with us. Although this is a stiff-necked people, forgive our wickedness and our sin, and take us as your inheritance."
10 Then the LORD said: "I am making a covenant with you. Before all your people I will do wonders never before done in any nation in all the world. The people you live among will see how awesome is the work that I, the LORD, will do for you.
11 Obey what I command you today. I will drive out before you the Amorites, Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites.
12 Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land where you are going, or they will be a snare among you.
13 Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones and cut down their Asherah poles.
14 Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.
15 "Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land; for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to them, they will invite you and you will eat their sacrifices.
16 And when you choose some of their daughters as wives for your sons and those daughters prostitute themselves to their gods, they will lead your sons to do the same.
17 "Do not make cast idols.
18 "Celebrate the Feast of Unleavened Bread. For seven days eat bread made without yeast, as I commanded you. Do this at the appointed time in the month of Abib, for in that month you came out of Egypt.
19 "The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock.
20 Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons.  "No one is to appear before me empty-handed.
21 "Six days you shall labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during the plowing season and harvest you must rest.
22 "Celebrate the Feast of Weeks with the firstfruits of the wheat harvest, and the Feast of Ingathering at the turn of the year.
23 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Sovereign LORD, the God of Israel.
24 I will drive out nations before you and enlarge your territory, and no one will covet your land when you go up three times each year to appear before the LORD your God.
25 "Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast, and do not let any of the sacrifice from the Passover Feast remain until morning.
26 "Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the LORD your God.
"Do not cook a young goat in its mother's milk."
27 Then the LORD said to Moses, "Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel."
28 Moses was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant—the Ten Commandments.


29 When Moses came down from Mount Sinai with the two tablets of the Testimony in his hands, he was not aware that his face was radiant because he had spoken with the LORD.
30 When Aaron and all the Israelites saw Moses, his face was radiant, and they were afraid to come near him.
31 But Moses called to them; so Aaron and all the leaders of the community came back to him, and he spoke to them.
32 Afterward all the Israelites came near him, and he gave them all the commands the LORD had given him on Mount Sinai.
33 When Moses finished speaking to them, he put a veil over his face.
34 But whenever he entered the LORD's presence to speak with him, he removed the veil until he came out. And when he came out and told the Israelites what he had been commanded,
35 they saw that his face was radiant. Then Moses would put the veil back over his face until he went in to speak with the LORD.



Can you show me where it bars adultery?   I have discussed this in this thread.

Huxley, the very 1st verse of that chapter tells us what transpired at that mountain top. Moses had broken the 1st tablets and God told him to come up again so He can write the exact commandments like the former on the stones. The chapter did not outline what was written on the stones again because it simply refers to the original in Exodus 20. God gave further ordinances and statutes which they are to observe, but no one was in doubt what the 10 COMMANDMENTS were- exactly like the first in Exodus 20.

Please read Deuteronomy chapter 5 very well. Moses repeated the same in his address upon entering Canaan.

By the way, of what significance is it if it wasn't mentioned in Chapter 34 but was clearly stated in Exodus 20, Deuteronomy 5, Mark 10:19, Luke 18:20 etc as part of the 10 commandments? Do you have a new set of 10 comandments? Please tell us, what are they?

Analytical:

Huxley, the very 1st verse of that chapter tells us what transpired at that mountain top. Moses had broken the 1st tablets and God told him to come up again so He can write the exact commandments like the former on the stones. The chapter did not outline what was written on the stones again because it simply refers to the original in Exodus 20. God gave further ordinances and statutes which they are to observe, but no one was in doubt what the 10 COMMANDMENTS were- exactly like the first in Exodus 20.

Please read Deuteronomy chapter 5 very well. Moses repeated the same in his address upon entering Canaan.

By the way, of what significance is it if it wasn't mentioned in Chapter 34 but was clearly stated in Exodus 20, Deuteronomy 5, Mark 10:19, Luke 18:20 etc as part of the 10 commandments? Do you have a new set of 10 comandments? Please tell us, what are they?

Yes, indeed. Exodus 34 describes the events surrounding the re-issue of the commandments that Moses had smashed, and it goes further and states these new commandments. Why are you reluctant to read the entirety of Ex34. These commandments are stated there, but bizarrely, there are nothing like those in Exodus 20. These are the replacements commandments given in Ex34:

1. Thou shalt worship no other god (For the Lord is a jealous god).

2. Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.

3. The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep in the month when the ear is on the corn.

4. All the first-born are mine.

5. Six days shalt thou work, but on the seventh thou shalt rest.

6. Thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, even of the first fruits of the wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end.

7. Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leavened bread.

8. The fat of my feast shall not remain all night until the morning.

9. The first of the first fruits of thy ground thou shalt bring unto the house of the Lord thy God.

10. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk.


In fact, verse 28 goes so far as to describe these as the "Ten Commandments". This description is not used for those in Exodus 20:

28 Moses was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant—the Ten Commandments.


Does this look anything like the commandments in Exodus 20? Had your God lost his mind so badly that he could not remember what he had written only a few days previously?

Check out the new tenth Commandment - "10. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk." How the hell is this useful to anyone?

Huxley, I just went through that thread now and I can't see what I have not addressed as stated above in my posts. It will interest you to know that there are a lot of commandments, statutes, ordinances etc God gave (read Deuteronomy, Leviticus), but the 10 commandments are specific and unambiguous.  The Israelites preserved it in the Ark of the Covenant as written on the tablets of stone.

Please don't get confused.  Those chapters are very complimentary and not contradictory.  Approach the scriptures with a mind to learn, not to find fault and you will be surprised how easy understanding will come.  Huxley, I wish you are a Christian!

God bless.

Analytical:

Huxley, I just went through that thread now and I can't see what I have not addressed as stated above in my posts. It will interest you to know that there are a lot of commandments, statutes, ordinances etc God gave (read Deuteronomy, Leviticus), but the 10 commandments are specific and unambiguous. The Israelites preserved it in the Ark of the Covenant as written on the tablets of stone.

Please don't get confused. Those chapters are very complimentary and not contradictory. Approach the scriptures with a mind to learn, not to find fault and you will be surprised how easy understanding will come. Huxley, I wish you are a Christian!

God bless.

Would you approach other holy books in the same way you approach the bible? Would you approach the Koran in the same way as you approach the bible?

Please don't derail this thread further, Huxley. I pray God will show you His grace that brings salvation.

I'm off.

Would you approach other holy books in the same way you approach the bible? Would you approach the Koran in the same way as you approach the bible?

No, because the koran has a lot of contradictions.

funmilayo; iro iwo omode yi popu. lol.