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Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by sage2(m): 2:01am On Feb 10, 2015
mpowa:
No matter your analysis, he must finish this election, he started it a over 2 yrs ago, he won't leave it half way, if you like postpone the election till December.

When they know his tenure is about to end, why didn't they allow him to conduct the election at the stipulated time, how long will it take a new chairman to familiarize with the office? except of course they want to bring in their own RIGGING MAN.

The law is the law, Jega is not INEC, INEC is an institution with other capable people to carry with the assignment.

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Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by sage2(m): 2:10am On Feb 10, 2015
simpleman:
After going through the article, i just had this nagging feeling that these kind of articles are brought up to sensitize the public on what is to come, so that when it happens even the die hard supporters of INEC and APC will just accept it without any struggle. Just to confirm my feelings i went over to the writers blog. And his argument against the SAN's case for The president's disqualification from contesting this election, really confirmed it.
The penitent question to ask is why would you remove Jega ( even if it is compulsory retirement ) at this most crucial time of the election timetable. Why even think about it. Knowing fully well that any person brought in to replace Jega will only be seen as a stooge. so i ask the article writer why even think about it ?

The law has no emotions.

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Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by arusoncd(m): 2:56am On Feb 10, 2015
Jega must goooooooiiiiiio

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Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by Cchuks27(m): 3:29am On Feb 10, 2015
Thirsty men on the loose. I bet Jega couldn't be a party to what they're planning.
Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by 0700Jesse(m): 5:13am On Feb 10, 2015
ayobamiakinrind:


It hurts when pple come here and talk out of context...in short,u no get sense.

shuu, who is this cartoon??
Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by wudpeka(m): 5:27am On Feb 10, 2015
manny4life:


Did you read the article? He did not say that his tenure doesn't expire on June 24th, he said, Civil Servants MUST proceed on a terminal leave three months prior to tenure expiration per a widely received circular issued by the former Head of Service, Alhaji Isa Bello Sali, which stated "those affected to comply with immediate effect by observing the three months terminal leave as provided for in the extant Rules”.

Meanwhile, Jega z not a CIVIL servant, he z a PUBLIC servant. . .
Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by Descartes: 5:53am On Feb 10, 2015
wudpeka:


Meanwhile, Jega z not a CIVIL servant, he z a PUBLIC servant. . .
A civil servant or public servant is a person in the public sector employed for a government
department or agency.Now is there any difference?
Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by onatisi(m): 5:56am On Feb 10, 2015
signz:


It's said that when you push Nigerians to the wall, we jump the fence instead of fighting back.

If the powers that be decides that it's time for Jega to go, he will go and nothing will happen. Everything will end in the pages of Newspaper and life will continue
exactly,that is why I don't like to argue with ppl. Many here don't understand that politics is far beyond the level of shouting on nairaland. If jega is removed nothing go happen. If anybody like make him go face soldier for road block and tell dem say jega must stay,na dat day the persin go know say khaki no be leather. We are even lucky that we have a president who is following due process,if it was to be obj or buhari they will add 3 months to the election and nada no go happen. Nigerians will just grumble and go back to work

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Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by 2n2k(m): 6:19am On Feb 10, 2015
author=nigerianchoice post=30580066]In the interest of full disclosure, let me say from the outset that this piece is nonpartisan. It is, instead, an apolitical academic exercise, primarily intended as a simple legal treatise, without being personal, on the legalities of tenure of Prof Attahiru Jega as INEC Chairman.
Whenever I see this caveat or somebody is described as a Public Affairs Commentator in nigeria, I take whatever he has to say with a cupful of salt

Having said that, let me then give reasons why Jega’s tenure legally or actually comes to end on March 24, 2015, instead of the presumptive June 24, 2015.

Jega was appointed by President Jonathan on June 8, 2010, and confirmed by the Senate on June 24, 2010. Under the law, his tenure runs for five years. Mathematically, therefore his tenure ‘exactly’ ends on June 24, 2015, counting from the date of Senate confirmation.

[b]For a self-acclaimed lawyer not to know the difference between 'nomination' and 'appointment' shows how low legal education has gone. If legislature must confirm, executive can only first nominate. It is after the confirmation that the person is either sworn-in and given appointment letter (in case of ministerial, constitutionally established executive office and very top judicial positions) while in other cases, appointment letters are issued without public swearing in e.g. Head of inland revenue service, SEC, cbn, etc.
In all cases, appointment letters are issued by the Secretary to the Government not Head of Service. The political appointees are not under the Head of (civil) Service. Appointment takes effect from the date stipulated in the letter issued by the secretary not the date of nomination or confirmation. Emefiele was nominated as cbn governor in February, confirmed in April/May but his appointment takes effect in June 2014.
A minister cannot start exercising the power of his office just because he has been confirmed by the senate without been sworn-in just like a president/governor-elect tenure start from date of swearing-in not date of election.
[/b]

But accordingly to extant rules and our time-honored conventions, his tenure ‘actually’ comes to an end on March 24 because he is required, without more, to compulsorily proceed on terminal leave three months to the mathematical end of his tenure. And this is being very generous because, if you go by the ‘doctrine of relation back’, a strong case can be made that his terminal leave shall commence on March 8 (the date he was appointed), instead of March 24 (the date he was confirmed).

For those who might argue otherwise, there are legions of precedents, including, most notably, that of Jega’s predecessor, Prof Maurice Iwu. Iwu’s tenure was due to expire on June 13, 2010. However, on April 28, 2010, then acting President Jonathan, ordered Iwu to proceed on terminal leave. That Iwu’s own terminal leave was less than three months to his mathematical five years was probably a matter of expediency of that turbulent era and presidential grace, to boot.

In recent times, we have seen other equally constitutionally-tenured public servants proceed on terminal leave before the exact date of expiration of their tenure. Here are few examples. Former IGP Abubakar’s tenure was due to end on July 30, 2014 but he proceeded or was sent on terminal leave on May 12, 2014. Former Chief Justice of the Federation, Justice Dahiru Musdapher voluntarily proceeded on terminal leave three months before the constitutional or mathematical end of his tenure. Ditto for former PCA, Justice Salami, even though his own was somewhat exceptional because he was on suspension when his terminal leave clock began to tick. I might add that Salami fought his for its exceptional equities but still lost. Jega has no such equities.

The cases referred to here are those of 'establishment staff'. The persons referred to only rose to the pinnacle of their career. This will apply to Jega as a professor in Bayero University Kano where he was before becoming INEC chairman. Election management is not his career. Just like the case of Sanusi when he publicly withdraw his earlier intention to go on terminal leave scheduled for March 2014. The president knew he couldn't force him but exercised his powers to suspend him for 'infractions'. Otteh served her tenure fully in sec without going on terminal leave

To underscore that there are no exceptions, the Federal Government, in a well-received circular issued by the former Head of Service, Alhaji Isa Bello Sali, had “called on those affected to comply with immediate effect by observing the three months terminal leave as provided for in the extant Rules”. Unarguably, those affected included, without exceptions, all public servants that have constitutional or legal tenure, either based on fixed tenure-track, as in the case of Iwu, Jega, etc; or straight retirement based on 35 years service (the IGP) or age (Justice Musdapher).

According to the circular, which is captioned ‘Three Months Pre-Retirement/Terminal Leave’, the government stated that “It has been observed that the mandatory notice of retirement for officers who are due to retire is not being observed as provided for in the extant rules. Accordingly, it has become necessary to reiterate the provisions of Public Service Rules (PSR) 100238 which states that officers are required to give three months notice of their retirement from service terminating on the effective date of their retirement”. For avoidance of doubt, the term retirement, in context, applies, mutatis mutandis, to those on fixed tenure like Jega.

[b]There is a current case involving the Executive Secretary of a parastal in the ministry of education. The guy wanted to go on terminal leave and handed over to another person who allegedly is not the most senior but from his tribe. The ministry rejected it and the man just cancelled his earlier scheduled leave to which the minister of education directed him that he must proceed on. The executive secretary petitioned the presidency and the Secretary to the Government wrote to the minister that the Executive Secretary is an appointee of the President and his terms of service are as contained in his appointment letter which cannot be abridged by the minister.[/b]

The circular was addressed and sent to the Chief of Staff to the President, Chief Justice of the Federation, all Ministers, Secretary to the Government of the Federation, Service Chiefs, the Inspector-General of Police, Chairman Federal Civil Service Commission, the Chairman, Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC), and the Chairman of Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC). Others are Heads of extra-ministerial departments, the Accountant-General of the Federation, Auditor-General of the Federation, Surveyor-General of the Federation, Directors-General/chief executives of parastatals and agencies.

This is the normal distribution protocol of correspondences in government. It doesn't mean that the addressee is specifically affected. As you stated, all ministers are copied. Do ministers also go on terminal leave? Those people are copied so that they apply it to career civil servants in their organizations.

So, as we can see from above, it is left for Jega to decide between these two options: It is either he voluntarily proceeds on his terminal leave by March 24, 2015, or he may be forced to do so by executive fiat. If, however, he is emboldened to sit tight, he has to know that any extra day he spends in office beyond March 24 is not by any force of law but by the sheer good graces of President Jonathan.

Even where terminal leave is compulsory, the tenure is not because of that abridged. No new person can assume a position in substantive capacity while the holder is on leave. The procedure you will find is that the leaving officer hands over to the most senior person in the organization who will act for him while on leave. So all this talk (not by you) of a Mimiko taking over before the expiration of Jega tenure is hogwash unless the President removes Jega with the consent of the senate (which he MAY PROBABLY get) or he may apply enough pressure on Jega to resign (which he CAN POSSIBLY do) before his tenure expires not through terminal leave. Even as bad as Iwu is reportedly was, he finished his term before Jega took over. Iwu handed over to an internal person when he was going on leave.
Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by Samirana360(m): 6:22am On Feb 10, 2015
they wil stil postpone d election if jega refuses 2 go on his terminal leave.....apc wil talk til 2019, gej wil rule til 2019.....though am nt supportin any of them

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Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by Oletty: 6:32am On Feb 10, 2015
Removing Jega from office before the elections are conducted and finalised will result in civil war. Mark my words!
Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by 2n2k(m): 6:46am On Feb 10, 2015
Descartes:
A civil servant or public servant is a person in the public sector employed for a government
department or agency.Now is there any difference?

All members of Civil Service are in Public Service but not all members of Public Service are in Civil Service.

All political office holders including the president, members of the armed forces, staff of public owned tertiary institutions are in public service but not in civil service.

The Fifth Schedule of Nigeria Constitution defines Public Service vis-a-vis Civil Service
Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by toyoutoyou: 6:55am On Feb 10, 2015
So u are in support of Jonathan,even if he rigs the election?U are part of the problem.
mobuch:


You have just described how your ignoble end will happen; big FOOL
Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by psalmsjob: 6:56am On Feb 10, 2015
edogram1:
is that why they pronsponed the election to sanction jaga?
Yeah to bring in their stooge as INEC chairman but our change is not depending on Jega for victory it depends on God and we all know He is mighty, He can do and undo even GEJonathan can die before 24th March. In-short when God wants to do something even your own resistance or opposition to it would actually be aiding the very plan and purpose of God.

Ask the devil he'll not have touched the hair of Jesus if he knew that by his death everyone that believes will be saved/freed from the bondage of the devil.

So Badluck Jonathan do whatever you like to Jega its just a proposition but its God that disposes. If you're on the Lord's side click "like" but if you want GEJonathan click "share"

#VoteForBuhari #VoteForChange #VoteForNigeria #VoteForAPC

MODIFIED: MY NAIRALAND ACCOUNT WAS HACKED!!!

Someone hack into my account and change what I wrote that "the Clueless-One can even die before March 28th if it so pleases God Almighty" and then inserted the name of GMBuhari instead. When they can simply quote me and write their own comment!

The truth is I'll not be happy if anyone of the two canditates dies before election date. But in my saying that GEJonathan can die before March 28 in my original post is to buttress the facts that only God almighty can make plans and execute it perfectly.

So GEJonathan should tell us sincerely what he has done in 6 years in power and what he intends to do if elected instead to trying to rig the election and hacking into member accounts on Nairaland!

As for me and my people we've decided to #VoteForChange #VoteForBuhari #VoteForNigeria

#NO-WE-CANNOT-GO-BACK-TO-INTIMIDATION-AND-HARASSMENT-OF-OPPOSITIONS #WeWantChange!
Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by Descartes: 6:56am On Feb 10, 2015
2n2k:


All members of Civil Service are in Public Service but not all members of Public Service are in Civil Service.

All political office holders including the president, members of the armed forces, staff of public owned tertiary institutions are in public service but not in civil service.

The Fifth Schedule of Nigeria Constitution defines Public Service vis-a-vis Civil Service
You have a point though. Buth the VCs, Provosts, Rectors in Tertiary institutions are they public or civil servants?
Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by about2wed(m): 6:58am On Feb 10, 2015
Nigeria politics is beyond the imagination of the people who live in it but understand by our leaders.
With the fact of the tenure leave presented, prof. attahiru jega must leave before the new election dated 28 march. the president will now nominate another person but the house of assembly will not accept that because they know that the person is ready to rig for jonathan. and if apc want an election to be done before the stipulated date by law 28 april, apc shoul be ready to lose. this may lead to post election crises of the greatest we have ever experience and the military will take charge. pls and pls note this and get prepare to defend your family.
Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by onatisi(m): 7:11am On Feb 10, 2015
Samirana360:
they wil stil postpone d election if jega refuses 2 go on his terminal leave.....apc wil talk til 2019, gej wil rule til 2019.....though am nt supportin any of them
jega will even conduct the elections . The President won't remove him , but buhari eligibilty to contest must be sorted out before nigerians go to the polls,until buhari court cases are settled ,there will be no elections . So if buhari knows he wants to be the next president ,let him stop playing hide and seek with the court and let him quickly tender his certificates .

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Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by onatisi(m): 7:12am On Feb 10, 2015
Oletty:
Removing Jega from office before the elections are conducted and finalised will result in civil war. Mark my words!
shaaarrapp ,who are you that we should mark ur word?better go to school and study for ur waec. You think war is like all those silly games you play on ps3 and nintendo? Na ur father and children u go push to war ,not we nigerians.

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Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by onatisi(m): 7:16am On Feb 10, 2015
about2wed:
Nigeria politics is beyond the imagination of the people who live in it but understand by our leaders.
With the fact of the tenure leave presented, prof. attahiru jega must leave before the new election dated 28 march. the president will now nominate another person but the house of assembly will not accept that because they know that the person is ready to rig for jonathan. and if apc want an election to be done before the stipulated date by law 28 april, apc shoul be ready to lose. this may lead to post election crises of the greatest we have ever experience and the military will take charge. pls and pls note this and get prepare to defend your family.
bros don't create any unnecessary tension by bringing out all this ur cooked up godfather fantasies. There is no rigging someone u bring in 4days to an election can perform. Jega will not be removed. Removing jega will result in the polls been seen as not credible . So forget all this talk talk. The elections will go on but at the right time and with the right candidates
Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by Myself2(m): 8:27am On Feb 10, 2015
Okay,let him proceed on terminal leave by March and exit the scene of this scandalous electoral "preparation" he created.Let a fresh credible man be appointed to conduct the elections
Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by Myself2(m): 8:30am On Feb 10, 2015
onatisi:
bros don't create any unnecessary tension by bringing out all this ur cooked up godfather fantasies. There is no rigging someone u bring in 4days to an election can perform. Jega will not be removed. Removing jega will result in the polls been seen as not credible . So forget all this talk talk. The elections will go on but at the right time and with the right candidates

Jega has lost a great deal of credibility.He should not be sacked,but as soon as his tenure expires,including all the protocols to be observed for that process to be consummated,he should be thanked and allowed to go.
Most importantly,as nature abhors a vacuum,all protocols towards appointing his successor should start NOW and be stuck to and implemented to the letter
Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by 2n2k(m): 8:51am On Feb 10, 2015
Descartes:
You have a point though. Buth the VCs, Provosts, Rectors in Tertiary institutions are they public or civil servants?

Public officer as stated in paragraphs 14 and 15 of the fifth schedule of the constitution
Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by GoldHorse(m): 9:19am On Feb 10, 2015
Okaaaay!!!! That's part of what necessitated this election postponement! Since Jega can't be puppet controlled he would at least be "legally" be out of the way!
Una smart small o, abi? Unfortunately sha you guys still won't win.

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Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by mpowa(m): 10:05am On Feb 10, 2015
sage2:


The law is the law, Jega is not INEC, INEC is an institution with other capable people to carry with the assignment.

So in you people's stupid calculations, he's to handover four days to the program he'd planned for months/years, and of course you guys will thing you're geniuses, I pray that the Otuoke man will not be the one to bring to past the PREDICTION that Nigeria will be a FAILED STATE in 2015 by his DESPIRATIONS.
Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by onatisi(m): 10:20am On Feb 10, 2015
Myself2:


Jega has lost a great deal of credibility.He should not be sacked,but as soon as his tenure expires,including all the protocols to be observed for that process to be consummated,he should be thanked and allowed to go.
Most importantly,as nature abhors a vacuum,all protocols towards appointing his successor should start NOW and be stuck to and implemented to the letter
i totally agree with you .

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Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by Sajio(m): 10:21am On Feb 10, 2015
jayseehe:
If PDP think they can postpone the election till when Jega's tenure is over, they must be joking.
.... Hello....... Election is march28 while Jega terminal leave starts march 24, so what are you saying?? abeg u, nor kill urself because of this ppl oo. politics they say is a "game" who strong pass go win oH

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Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by naszee: 10:40am On Feb 10, 2015
Forgive my ignorance. I thought terminal or pre-retirement is only applied to civil/public servants who are going to retire? How then does it apply to inec chairman whose position is just an appointment, like that of a mininste? Remember, chairmanship of inec is not like that of i.g.p or service chiefs who are appointed within the service. Inec chairman is not like that. He is on secondment from a university and he only goes by expiration of his term/tenure without any terminal leave as he is not retiring. Therefore jega can only proceed on terminal leave in b.u.k as a lecturer when he clocks 70 years or 35 in service.
Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by nellyjohn: 12:37pm On Feb 10, 2015
If his tenure is over, he should just quitely leave.

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Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by jpphilips(m): 3:36pm On Feb 10, 2015
nigerianchoice:
In the interest of full disclosure, let me say from the outset that this piece is nonpartisan. It is, instead, an apolitical academic exercise, primarily intended as a simple legal treatise, without being personal, on the legalities of tenure of Prof Attahiru Jega as INEC Chairman. Having said that, let me then give reasons why Jega’s tenure legally or actually comes to end on March 24, 2015, instead of the presumptive June 24, 2015.

Jega was appointed by President Jonathan on June 8, 2010, and confirmed by the Senate on June 24, 2010. Under the law, his tenure runs for five years. Mathematically, therefore his tenure ‘exactly’ ends on June 24, 2015, counting from the date of Senate confirmation.

But accordingly to extant rules and our time-honored conventions, his tenure ‘actually’ comes to an end on March 24 because he is required, without more, to compulsorily proceed on terminal leave three months to the mathematical end of his tenure. And this is being very generous because, if you go by the ‘doctrine of relation back’, a strong case can be made that his terminal leave shall commence on March 8 (the date he was appointed), instead of March 24 (the date he was confirmed).

For those who might argue otherwise, there are legions of precedents, including, most notably, that of Jega’s predecessor, Prof Maurice Iwu. Iwu’s tenure was due to expire on June 13, 2010. However, on April 28, 2010, then acting President Jonathan, ordered Iwu to proceed on terminal leave. That Iwu’s own terminal leave was less than three months to his mathematical five years was probably a matter of expediency of that turbulent era and presidential grace, to boot.

In recent times, we have seen other equally constitutionally-tenured public servants proceed on terminal leave before the exact date of expiration of their tenure. Here are few examples. Former IGP Abubakar’s tenure was due to end on July 30, 2014 but he proceeded or was sent on terminal leave on May 12, 2014. Former Chief Justice of the Federation, Justice Dahiru Musdapher voluntarily proceeded on terminal leave three months before the constitutional or mathematical end of his tenure. Ditto for former PCA, Justice Salami, even though his own was somewhat exceptional because he was on suspension when his terminal leave clock began to tick. I might add that Salami fought his for its exceptional equities but still lost. Jega has no such equities.

To underscore that there are no exceptions, the Federal Government, in a well-received circular issued by the former Head of Service, Alhaji Isa Bello Sali, had “called on those affected to comply with immediate effect by observing the three months terminal leave as provided for in the extant Rules”. Unarguably, those affected included, without exceptions, all public servants that have constitutional or legal tenure, either based on fixed tenure-track, as in the case of Iwu, Jega, etc; or straight retirement based on 35 years service (the IGP) or age (Justice Musdapher).

According to the circular, which is captioned ‘Three Months Pre-Retirement/Terminal Leave’, the government stated that “It has been observed that the mandatory notice of retirement for officers who are due to retire is not being observed as provided for in the extant rules. Accordingly, it has become necessary to reiterate the provisions of Public Service Rules (PSR) 100238 which states that officers are required to give three months notice of their retirement from service terminating on the effective date of their retirement”. For avoidance of doubt, the term retirement, in context, applies, mutatis mutandis, to those on fixed tenure like Jega.

The circular was addressed and sent to the Chief of Staff to the President, Chief Justice of the Federation, all Ministers, Secretary to the Government of the Federation, Service Chiefs, the Inspector-General of Police, Chairman Federal Civil Service Commission, the Chairman, Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC), and the Chairman of Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC). Others are Heads of extra-ministerial departments, the Accountant-General of the Federation, Auditor-General of the Federation, Surveyor-General of the Federation, Directors-General/chief executives of parastatals and agencies.

So, as we can see from above, it is left for Jega to decide between these two options: It is either he voluntarily proceeds on his terminal leave by March 24, 2015, or he may be forced to do so by executive fiat. If, however, he is emboldened to sit tight, he has to know that any extra day he spends in office beyond March 24 is not by any force of law but by the sheer good graces of President Jonathan.

From: Aloy Ejimakor. Esq.


Jega's tenure is not disputable, however, what is disputable is shifting the election beyond his reach
Re: Jega’s Tenure Ends On March 24, 2015 By Operation Of Law. by manny4life(m): 3:48pm On Feb 10, 2015
wudpeka:


Meanwhile, Jega z not a CIVIL servant, he z a PUBLIC servant. . .

So what is the difference?

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