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Re: Non-muslims Only: Jesus Or Mohammed by Empiree: 1:29pm On Feb 28, 2015
dejilg:

well, I just stumbled upon dis and if I have time, I will address ur misuse of Biblical texts and show dt its nt compatible with islam
Who told you Christianity compatible with islam. Hell, there is a huge space btw religion of Paul and religion of God. Let's see what you got
Re: Non-muslims Only: Jesus Or Mohammed by Nobody: 1:43pm On Feb 28, 2015
9jaforlife:
Mohammed at his time of death said “With the supreme communion in Paradise, with those upon whom God has showered his favor, the prophets and the saints and the martyrs and the righteous, most excellent for communion are they." During his last moment, his wife Aisha heard him murmur "Refik-i Ala Yarabbi.” Meaning "O Allah, with the supreme communion"

The Prophet’s last words were “O Allah, with the supreme communion.” He died in the evening of the twelfth of Rabi’ al-Awwal (June 8, 632 A.D.) at the age of sixty-three. You're free to join your senior colleagues in dispersing the lies that you believe.

Contrary to the "forgive them for they know not what they're doing" prayer that you claim Jesus (PBUH) said as his last words, this is what the bible says...

Luke 23:46New International Version (NIV)

"Jesus called out with a loud voice,“Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.”[a] When he had said this, he breathed his last."

With regards to the loving quotes that you posted from the bible, I'm helping you out with more. You're welcome.

Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)


Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Other Religions

1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

3) Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)


Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

God will kill Children
1) If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)


2) Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Slavery
1) Leviticus 25:44-46 "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly."

2) Sell Your Daughters
Exodus 21: 7
"If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do"

Don't even get me started on the "Old Testament" thing, the bible itself says in Luke 16:17
"But that doesn't mean that the law has lost its force. It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the smallest point of God's law to be oveturned."



quote Jesus Christ not some crazy Jewish humans
Re: Non-muslims Only: Jesus Or Mohammed by true2god: 1:58pm On Feb 28, 2015
Empiree:
Shut up already and admit your defeat. You are done like dinner. You are defeated. Yea, run away.
Islamic version of victory when you dnt have any good thing to say about 'profit' mohammed. God punish satan for manipulating mohammed to lust after a 6yr old little girl, to commit genocide against harmless Jew, to encouraging incestt by marrying little aisha his first cousin , to lust after his adopted son's wife hence cancelling adpotion in the muslim\arab world.

May Mo's soul rot in hell for all the chaos he had created and which his follower are creating globally today, folowing after his footsteps.

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Re: Non-muslims Only: Jesus Or Mohammed by jerrymej(m): 4:13pm On Feb 28, 2015
Hmmm, religious crisis in Nairaland.

Well I believe in my God (the most high).
And I believe in christianity, no one can change me from it, even if death is before me, I can't denounce Christianity (God).
But if you do also think your religion (to my muslim brothers/sister) is heading you to heaven (paradise to meet with you creator) then hold it strong and act/work according to it firmness. Hence you can not be deceived by any one.
Because I don't have the might to preach conversion to my opposite religion, but I have the might to preach to the unbelievers (the christians who are yet saved). That time that I'll use in making research on either the opposite religion is worshiping the right God, I'll take that time to build my self more strong in my religion.

It's only the Most high God that knows every thing! Because I believe it when he (God) said Judge not.
Thanks all.
Re: Non-muslims Only: Jesus Or Mohammed by Empiree: 4:17pm On Feb 28, 2015
@jerrymej, you might want to tell your brethren all that you wrote above^. They are the true definition of "holier than thou".
Re: Non-muslims Only: Jesus Or Mohammed by jerrymej(m): 4:22pm On Feb 28, 2015
Empiree:
@jerrymej, you might want to tell your brethren all that you wrote above^. They are the true definition of "holier than thou".

And you think so?
Well am not a religious fanatics.
Re: Non-muslims Only: Jesus Or Mohammed by Empiree: 4:40pm On Feb 28, 2015
jerrymej:


And you think so?
Well am not a religious fanatics.
Yes, I thought so. And neither am I.

You can do yourself a favor by going through op's profile see what she's up to and then return here and drop your conclusion. Remember, Op is the same as ifean+parisbook. So go through both profiles and see who is the real definition of fanatic.
Re: Non-muslims Only: Jesus Or Mohammed by ladon1: 4:44pm On Feb 28, 2015
You should be comparing judas iscariot with mohammed

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Re: Non-muslims Only: Jesus Or Mohammed by jerrymej(m): 4:55pm On Feb 28, 2015
Empiree:
Yes, I thought so. And neither am I.

You can do yourself a favor by going through op's profile see what she's up to and then return here and drop your conclusion. Remember, Op is the same as ifean+parisbook. So go through both profiles and see who is the real definition of fanatic.

Hmm if I say you got it wrong (my comment), I think am right. Because I urge every one to instinct on his or her religion as to their borne believe! I didn't condemn any religion neither do I even accept the thread. Be faithful to your religion, and am even working hard to be faithful to mine (that's my urge) hence we both believe that there's heaven and there's judgment day ahead.
Referring me to the OP's profile I think I've no business with that, because I was meant to believe that what ever measure to you use to judge someone is the same measure they'll use to judge you as well.

Less I forget, I never said you are a religious fanatics. Just point at my self.
I keep muslim friends as well, and the best we can do to ourselves is to urge ourselves to be faithful to our religions. Period.
Re: Non-muslims Only: Jesus Or Mohammed by true2god: 5:41pm On Feb 28, 2015
ladon1:
You should be comparing judas iscariot with mohammed
I will choose Judas Iscariot over mohammed anyday and anytime.

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Re: Non-muslims Only: Jesus Or Mohammed by PastorKun(m): 5:53pm On Feb 28, 2015
ladon1:
You should be comparing judas iscariot with mohammed

Judas wasn't that bad na

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Re: Non-muslims Only: Jesus Or Mohammed by dejilg(m): 2:11pm On Mar 01, 2015
Empiree:
Who told you Christianity compatible with islam. Hell, there is a huge space btw religion of Paul and religion of God. Let's see what you got

U never cease to amaze me, I never said "Christianity is compatible with Islam" --- read again

and if u don't know abt Paul (the man muslims wish to hate but cudnt -- a greater than allah and muhammed), just keep quiet
Re: Non-muslims Only: Jesus Or Mohammed by Ifeann(f): 4:32pm On Mar 01, 2015
dejilg:


U never cease to amaze me, I never said "Christianity is compatible with Islam" --- read again

and if u don't know abt Paul (the man muslims wish to hate but cudnt -- a greater than allah and muhammed), just keep quiet

that's typical empiree. he is so in a hurry to defend his pedophile prophet that he doesn't even read through posts correctly. .
Re: Non-muslims Only: Jesus Or Mohammed by Empiree: 5:54pm On Mar 03, 2015
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Re: Non-muslims Only: Jesus Or Mohammed by AmunRaOlodumare: 7:05pm On Mar 03, 2015
The faster you guys realize both Islam and Christianity are a bunch of crap, the better it will be...

Sure there's some wisdom in the torah, bible and koran as in any religions but there's also a lot of contradictions and archaic (aka non-progressive) stupidity.

The Abrahamic religions were spread by the means of the carrot and the stick to our people (and to their own Jewish, European and Arab people).

As African people we have our own set of spiritual beliefs. Nowadays people in Europe and America are abandoning religions for a more, let's say, natural/scientific worldview. So there's no reason to pray to the gods of our colonialist masters anymore.

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Re: Non-muslims Only: Jesus Or Mohammed by unphilaz(m): 7:08am On Mar 03, 2016
parisbookaddict:

Here are 25 interesting but important differences..
1.
Jesus says; "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself." (Matthew 5:14)
Muhammad said "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who
disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every
fingertip of them." (Qur'an 8:12)
" Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in
Allah." Muhammad (Ibn Ishaq 992)
2
Jesus says God loves everyone.(John 3:16)
Muhammad said Allah does not love those who reject Islam. (Qur'an
30:45, 3:32, 22:38)
3
Jesus says "He who lives by the sword will die by the sword." (Matthew
26:52)
Muhammad said "I have been commanded to fight against people till
they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the
messenger of Allah" (Muslim 1:33)
4
Jesus stops the stoning of an adulterous woman and says “Let he who is
without sin cast the first stone."(John 8:7)
Muhammad said Stone women for adultery.(Muslim 4206)
5
Jesus and God, the father says "Thou shalt not steal." (Matthew 19:18)
(Exodus 20:15; Deuteronomy 5:19)
Muhammad allows stealing from unbelievers. (Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq
764)
6
Jesus says "Thou shalt not bear false witness." (Matthew 19:18)
Muhammad Permitted lying, deceit and al taqyyiah. (Sahih Muslim 6303,
Bukhari 49:857)
7
Muhammad Owned and traded slaves. (Sahih Muslim 3901)
Jesus neither owned nor traded slaves.
8
Muhammad beheaded 600 to 900 Jewish men and boys (Sahih Muslim
4390)
Jesus healed the sick, feed the hungry and gave life to the dead.
9
Jesus preached forgiveness and peace. (Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38) and
says "If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other
also." (Matthew 5:39)
Muhammad preached retaliations and murdered those who insulted him.
(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241) and said "If then anyone transgresses the
prohibition against you, Transgress ye likewise against him" (Qur'an
2:194)
10
Jesus says "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called Sons of
God" (Matthew 5:9)
Muhammad said Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in
Paradise by a hundred fold. (Muslim 4645)
11
Jesus was celibate. He conquered this carnal human body.
Muhammad Married 13 wives and kept numerous sex slaves.
(Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50)
12
Muhammad slept with a 9-year-old child. (Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari
58:236)
Need I say more
13
Jesus saved a woman from being stoned for adultery, he also healed
several women from sickness etc
Muhammad ordered the murder of women. (Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)
.
14
Jesus says "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.
"(Matthew 5:5)
Muhammad said "O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who
are near to you and let them find in you hardness." (Qur'an 9:123)
15
Jesus ordered no military campaigns, nor offered any approval of war or
violence.
Muhammad Ordered 65 military campaigns and raids in his LAST 10
years. (Ibn Ishaq )
16
Muhammad Killed captives taken in battle.(Ibn Ishaq 451),-hope u
remember about the 900 jews boys and women who opposed him etc
Jesus never killed anyone nor asked for the killing of anyone.
15
Muhammad encouraged his men To Molest enslaved women. (Abu Dawood
2150, Qur'an 4:24)
Jesus never encouraged rape and never enslaved women.
16
Muhammad lived like a king and demanded captured slaves and a fifth
of all other loot taken in war.(Qur'an 8:41)
Jesus says "The Son of Man came not to be served, but to
serve." (Matthew 20:28)
17
Muhammad was never tortured, but tortured others. (Muslim 4131, Ibn
Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)
Jesus suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.
18
Muhammad said "And fight them until there is no more persecution and
religion is only for Allah" (Qur'an 8:39)
Jesus says "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute
you" (Matthew 5:44)
19
Jesus healed a blind man (Mark 8:28)
Muhammad blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man (al-Tabari
1440)
20
Muhammad Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit from which he
preached Islam. (Bukhari 47:743)
Jesus washed his disciples feet. (John 13:5)
21
Jesus says the Greatest Commandment is "Love God and love thy
neighbor as thyself." (Matthew 22:34-40)
Muhammad’s greatest Commandments? "Belief in Allah and Jihad in His
cause" (Muslim 1:149)
22
Muhammad demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a
house of worship (Qur'an 4:102)
Jesus chastised anyone attempting to defend him with force. (John
18:10-12)
23
Jesus demanded nothing for himself and Died without possessions.
Muhammad got fat, was poisoned by a woman whom he collected her
goat meat and ate, suffered for 4 years and then died, a wealthy man
from what was taken from others in war or demanded from others in
tribute.
24
Jesus was crucified himself.
Muhammad advocated crucifying others.
(Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)



and finally,


25
I want you to recall their dying words…..who looks like he died with hate
in his heart and who looks like he died with love in his.
Lets take a look;
Jesus said , “Father forgive them, for they know not what they are
doing.” Luke 23:34:

While Muhammad spoke the following words while dying, “ May Allah
curse the Jews and Christians.” Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8, Number
427:
Narrated ‘Aisha and ‘Abdullah bin ‘Abbas: When the last moment of the
life of Allah’s Apostle came he started putting his ‘Khamisa’ on his face
and when he felt hot and short of breath he took it off his face and
said , “May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places
of worship at the graves of their Prophets.”


Muslims don't believe that Jesus paid the price for the sins of those who
accept his message and also accept him as lord and savior (Christians)
but yet their hadith teaches them this;
Sahih Muslim 6666--Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: No
Muslim would die but Allah would admit in his stead a Jew or a Christian
in Hell-Fire.
And this,
Sahih Muslim 6668--Allah's Messenger [said]: There would come people
amongst the Muslims on the Day of Resurrection with as heavy sins as a
mountain, and Allah would forgive them and He would place in their
stead the Jews and the Christians.
I have to warned Muslims that Christians and Jews can't take away their
sins. . We don't have that power. they were lied to.
Only Christ can do this, only he can take sins away.

Preach the gospel and highlight these differences(if it is safe to todo so) when u interact with Muslims. .

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Re: Non-muslims Only: Jesus Or Mohammed by christopher123(m): 7:49am On Mar 03, 2016
This is an eye opener with references ...
Re: Non-muslims Only: Jesus Or Mohammed by christopher123(m): 7:55am On Mar 03, 2016
9jaforlife:
Mohammed at his time of death said “With the supreme communion in Paradise, with those upon whom God has showered his favor, the prophets and the saints and the martyrs and the righteous, most excellent for communion are they." During his last moment, his wife Aisha heard him murmur "Refik-i Ala Yarabbi.” Meaning "O Allah, with the supreme communion"

The Prophet’s last words were “O Allah, with the supreme communion.” He died in the evening of the twelfth of Rabi’ al-Awwal (June 8, 632 A.D.) at the age of sixty-three. You're free to join your senior colleagues in dispersing the lies that you believe.

Contrary to the "forgive them for they know not what they're doing" prayer that you claim Jesus (PBUH) said as his last words, this is what the bible says...

Luke 23:46New International Version (NIV)

"Jesus called out with a loud voice,“Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.”[a] When he had said this, he breathed his last."

With regards to the loving quotes that you posted from the bible, I'm helping you out with more. You're welcome.

Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)


Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Other Religions

1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

3) Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)


Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

God will kill Children
1) If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)


2) Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Slavery
1) Leviticus 25:44-46 "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly."

2) Sell Your Daughters
Exodus 21: 7
"If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do"

Don't even get me started on the "Old Testament" thing, the bible itself says in Luke 16:17
"But that doesn't mean that the law has lost its force. It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the smallest point of God's law to be overturned."


This is for non Christian ..yet you came here to make a mess of yourself

Secondly it is between Muhammed and Jesus Christ ...not one Jewish person in Bible ..focus on the comparison


This is crazy ..why can't people so some deductive reasoning




Did I just quite you ?

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