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The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 8:35am On Mar 13, 2015
I think the lekki robbery was largely successful because of the visit of president Jonathan and Muhamodu Buhari to Lagos yesterday. I think the over concentration of the entire security agencies on Victoria Island made other areas vulnerable.
From eyewitness reports, the criminals had a filled time operating from close to fifteen minutes in a very busy area of Lagos, an area with usual high police and military (OP MESA) presence and there was almost no engagement or fire exchange. In fact the policemen that lost their lives were escorts to a private body.

The VIPs, Presidents and other top officials should look for ways to sort out their own security instead of putting the rest of us in danger. I don't see any reason why policemen should leave their formations to position themselves along the 3rd mainland bridge and major roads like mascots just because someone is visiting.

Obiagelli.

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Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 8:41am On Mar 13, 2015
Did policemen arrive at the robbery scene after the robbers fled? If they did,then its their usual way of coming to a robbery scene after the deed has been done.
I don't think the presence of Jonathan and Buhari in Lagos stalled the policemen's inablity to fight the robbers.

RIP to the dead.

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Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by vanhelsing2099(m): 8:50am On Mar 13, 2015
Shld in case
Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by francizy(m): 9:00am On Mar 13, 2015
The policemen have always been incompetent so don't blame it on government officials.
Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by remsonik(f): 9:16am On Mar 13, 2015
I think our leaders are just paranoid. No policeman should be made to leave his duty post because the president or a VIP is visiting.

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Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 9:36am On Mar 13, 2015
berem:
Did policemen arrive at the robbery scene after the robbers fled? If they did,then its their usual way of coming to a robbery scene after the deed has been done.
I don't think the presence of Jonathan and Buhari in Lagos stalled the policemen's inablity to fight the robbers.

RIP to the dead.
I think the police had always had an upper hand against this criminals, that is why we hardly hear on bank robberies in Lagos. The police at least in Lagos has a formation that ensures quick response, this is usually altered when there is a VIP in town. Yesterday it was robbery attack, who knows what next will take advantage of such activities

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Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 9:37am On Mar 13, 2015
remsonik:
I think our leaders are just paranoid. No policeman should be made to leave his duty post because the president or a VIP is visiting.
You are very correct, let them get and train some kind of VIP squad instead of putting the rest of us at risk of danger.
Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 9:40am On Mar 13, 2015
francizy:
The policemen have always been incompetent so don't blame it on government officials.
The police has been very effective against armed robbers, i know this for a fact. I also know that those that operated yesterday will be caught very soon, but we need to maintain top security always.
Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by francizy(m): 9:43am On Mar 13, 2015
Obiagelli:

The police has been very effective against armed robbers, i know this for a fact. I also know that those that operated yesterday will be caught very soon, but we need to maintain top security always.

Sometimes last month, there was a robbery operation at Abule Ado and the police came about 20mins after the robbers had finished carrying out their operations.
Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 9:48am On Mar 13, 2015
francizy:


Sometimes last month, there was a robbery operation at Abule Ado and the police came about 20mins after the robbers had finished carrying out their operations.
I doubt it was blazingly done as the one on Lekki, one a major roads in broad daylight. Which area is abule ado?
Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by francizy(m): 9:48am On Mar 13, 2015
Ever since 2003 (or thereabout) till date, we've been the ones securing our area. We pay vigilante groups to secure lives and properties in my area. This is supposed to be the work of the Nigerian police.

The only thing the police do is to drive into my area to arrest people who purchase fuel illegally and people who smoke weed..

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Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 9:49am On Mar 13, 2015
Obiagelli:

The police has been very effective against armed robbers, i know this for a fact. I also know that those that operated yesterday will be caught very soon, but we need to maintain top security always.
robbers attacked Ecobank three times at Ojo Alaba in a space of 5months last year and the police did not kill not even one of the robbers despite their heavy presence at the market with their armoured tank stationed in the market.
This has nothing to do with a VIP visit. The policemen are just too scared to attack the robbers because they believe the robbers have more sophisticated weapons than them.
Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by francizy(m): 9:51am On Mar 13, 2015
Obiagelli:

I doubt it was blazingly done as the one on Lekki, one a major roads in broad daylight. Which area is abule ado?

Old ojo road, behind Ecobank.. One man was shot by the armed robbers tho..

Do you know Angle Ado area in Satellite Town?
Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by mrborntodoit: 9:57am On Mar 13, 2015
Obiagelli:
I think the lekki robbery was largely successful because of the visit of president Jonathan and Muhamodu Buhari to Lagos yesterday. I think the over concentration of the entire security agencies on Victoria Island made other areas vulnerable.
From eyewitness reports, the criminals had a filled time operating from close to fifteen minutes in a very busy area of Lagos, an area with usual high police and military (OP MESA) presence and there was almost no engagement or fire exchange. In fact the policemen that lost their lives were escorts to a private body.

The VIPs, Presidents and other top officials should look for ways to sort out their own security instead of putting the rest of us in danger. I don't see any reason why policemen should leave their formations to position themselves along the 3rd mainland bridge and major roads like mascots just because someone is visiting.

Obiagelli.



Dear obigottery,

Even if gej came alone without security details, the police will still arrive late at the robbery scene.

Now tell me if fashola doesn't have security details,and moreover,he seems more like a kettle calling a pot black.

APC as a party or whatever they represent seems to be an anti-gej movement , may I remind you that being a critic doesn't give you the right to expose the presidents life to danger .

Everywhere in the world,presidents are well guarded so get that into your thick skull and whilst at it, shove your write up into fasholas a$$ .

Best Regards,
Mrborntodoit
grin

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Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 10:00am On Mar 13, 2015
Obiagelli:
I think the lekki robbery was largely successful because of the visit of president Jonathan and Muhamodu Buhari to Lagos yesterday. I think the over concentration of the entire security agencies on Victoria Island made other areas vulnerable.
From eyewitness reports, the criminals had a filled time operating from close to fifteen minutes in a very busy area of Lagos, an area with usual high police and military (OP MESA) presence and there was almost no engagement or fire exchange. In fact the policemen that lost their lives were escorts to a private body.

The VIPs, Presidents and other top officials should look for ways to sort out their own security instead of putting the rest of us in danger. I don't see any reason why policemen should leave their formations to position themselves along the 3rd mainland bridge and major roads like mascots just because someone is visiting.

Obiagelli.
Inasmuch as I understand the position you are coming from, I will have to disagree with you. The problem of insecurity has nothing to do with the security of lives and properties of VIPs. In fact, President, VPs, Ministers, Former Heads of States and other functionaries DESERVE to be given 24/7 protection by the security forces especially the President and serving Governors. Assassinating a President means more than just the death of one man.

What we should advocate for is the restructuring and reformation of the Police Force. We need community and state policing. In the meantime, we need reformation in our security sector. Our servicemen need to be professional and intelligence gathering need to be taken seriously.
Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by mrborntodoit: 10:00am On Mar 13, 2015
berem:
robbers attacked Ecobank three times at Ojo Alaba in a space of 5months last year and the police did not kill not even one of the robbers despite their heavy presence at the market with their armoured tank stationed in the market.
This has nothing to do with a VIP visit. The policemen are just too scared to attack the robbers because they believe the robbers have more sophisticated weapons than them.

You are on point today,please always ensure you wake up by the same time you did today!

Politics without bitterness is the way forward,I'm sure with time,you will see the light.

Cc Barcanista

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Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 10:01am On Mar 13, 2015
berem:
robbers attacked Ecobank three times at Ojo Alaba in a space of 5months last year and the police did not kill not even one of the robbers despite their heavy presence at the market with their armoured tank stationed in the market.
This has nothing to do with a VIP visit. The policemen are just too scared to attack the robbers because they believe the robbers have more sophisticated weapons than them.

Really? 3 times, wow. Honestly the last armed robbery i heard of was the one at the airport car park. If the police are scared of robbers then we are in serious trouble. Maybe someday we will get state police that will have proper training, equipments and welfare.
Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 10:03am On Mar 13, 2015
mrborntodoit:


[s] You are on point today,please always ensure you wake up by the same time you did today!

Politics without bitterness is the way forward,I'm sure with time,you will see the light.

Cc Barcanista [/s]
Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 10:04am On Mar 13, 2015
Obiagelli:


Really? 3 times, wow. Honestly the last armed robbery i heard of was the one at the airport car park. If the police are scared of robbers then we are in serious trouble. Maybe someday we will get state police that will have proper training, equipments and welfare.
yes they attacked thrice. Ecobank has about five branches at Alaba that's why they were repeatedly robbed.
Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 10:08am On Mar 13, 2015
barcanista:
Inasmuch as I understand the position you are coming from, I will have to disagree with you. The problem of insecurity has nothing to do with the security of lives and properties of VIPs. In fact, President, VPs, Ministers, Former Heads of States and other functionaries DESERVE to be given 24/7 protection by the security forces especially the President and serving Governors. Assassinating a President means more than just the death of one man.

What we should advocate for is the restructuring and reformation of the Police Force. We need community and state policing. In the meantime, we need reformation in our security sector. Our servicemen need to be professional and intelligence gathering need to be taken seriously.
You are probably right but i don't understand policemen lining the 3rd mainland bridge because a VIP is in town, we are desperately short of policemen to be wasting them at the expense of others.
When will we get state police is another matter entirely, in fact i expect that this should be one of the main topics for this election, apparently Nigerians don't value life.
Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Firefire(m): 10:08am On Mar 13, 2015
RIP to the dead.

Hey Pee Ceee, please continue your blame trade... nonsense!

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Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 10:14am On Mar 13, 2015
berem:
yes they attacked thrice. Ecobank has about five branches at Alaba that's why they were repeatedly robbed.
The police has atleast 2 Apc's on that road and they couldn't do anything? Something must be wrong, especially that it happened 3 times.

From personal experience, the average response time of the police these days is less than 10 minutes
Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 10:14am On Mar 13, 2015
Our private security laws can help
The should be allowed to hold license fire arms. Under d supervision of d police
Only dem will VIPs use such outfit
Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by talktimi(m): 10:15am On Mar 13, 2015
Those who don't understand security matters will take pedestrian opinions like that of the op seriously. In this case, there were two high profile individuals/targets in town in which one had an assassination attempt on his life last year (staged or not) and the other is a sitting president with history teaching us that lax security has led to the death of a Nigerian head of state before (Muritala Mohammed). The death by assassination of any of these two men would plunge the country into a crisis worse than the Biafran war. The best we can ask and have to demand for is a review of our security networks with an expansion of the forces via recruitment and equiping. Although the police is under the FG but states also get security votes which are used to augment the provisions of the security operatives to suit the situations on ground in the states eg in the south south, the state governors buy gun boats for police and jtf officer and we heard these robbers came by water. It's no time for blame games as we all learn everyday through good and bad experiences therefore I believe necessary action should be taken.

R.I.P to the dead
Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 10:15am On Mar 13, 2015
Obiagelli:

The police has atleast 2 Apc's on that road and they couldn't do anything? Something must be wrong, especially that it happened 3 times.

From personal experience, the average response time of the police these days is less than 10 minutes
in Nig its Hours
Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 10:21am On Mar 13, 2015
Obiagelli:

You are probably right but i don't understand policemen lining the 3rd mainland bridge because a VIP is in town, we are desperately short of policemen to be wasting them at the expense of others.
When will we get state police is another matter entirely, in fact i expect that this should be one of the main topics for this election, apparently Nigerians don't value life.
Well, like I said, I understand your concern. The truth is that Jonathan is the most important personality in Nigeria, his security is likened to that of Nigeria. We need to recruit more personnels into the security services. We don't have to put police in every street but we need to encourage citizens contribution and reportage as well as up our intelligence gathering. Just that we have incompetent managers of of security Agencies.

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Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 10:22am On Mar 13, 2015
IbnSultaan:
Our private security laws can help
The should be allowed to hold license fire arms. Under d supervision of d police
Only dem will VIPs use such outfit
Ideally, very good proposal but it will be sooo abused

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Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 10:23am On Mar 13, 2015
IbnSultaan:
Our private security laws can help
The should be allowed to hold license fire arms. Under d supervision of d police
Only dem will VIPs use such outfit
I completely agree with this
Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 10:25am On Mar 13, 2015
talktimi:
Those who don't understand security matters will take pedestrian opinions like that of the op seriously. In this case, there were two high profile individuals/targets in town in which one had an assassination attempt on his life last year (staged or not) and the other is a sitting president with history teaching us that lax security has led to the death of a Nigerian head of state before (Muritala Mohammed). The death by assassination of any of these two men would plunge the country into a crisis worse than the Biafran war. The best we can ask and have to demand for is a review of our security networks with an expansion of the forces via recruitment and equiping. Although the police is under the FG but states also get security votes which are used to augment the provisions of the security operatives to suit the situations on ground in the states eg in the south south, the state governors buy gun boats for police and jtf officer and we heard these robbers came by water. It's no time for blame games as we all learn everyday through good and bad experiences therefore I believe necessary action should be taken.

R.I.P to the dead

The girl that was shot dead yesterday is less important? Should policemen be lining the 3rd mainland and major roads before you protect your VIPs?
Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by hardywaltz(m): 10:26am On Mar 13, 2015
Mbu take note..

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Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 10:27am On Mar 13, 2015
Obiagelli:

I completely agree with this
private
Security firms should be allowed to use arms
Its d only ans I Know
Re: The Government Should Stop Redeploying Police Formation For VIP Visits by Nobody: 10:28am On Mar 13, 2015
We are expecting much from the Policemen but we ain't care about their wellbeing. Are they motivated to discharge their duties excellently and gallantly? The answer is "NO"! Remember Police are threatening to go on strike by 28th of March! I don't know if they've canceled the plan though.
A Sergeant told me he's still collecting Salary of a Corporal since a year he has been promoted! Very absurd and pathetic.
Recently F.G. Awarded Pipeline Security to the "Thugs" at the expense of the Police, very ridiculous. They know the Government do not value their lives, yet we are expecting them to die for us.
I think we should put ourselves in the respective shoes!

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