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// by VLadipo: 11:05am On Mar 23, 2015
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Re: // by davien(m): 12:58pm On Mar 23, 2015
Is friendship a one-sided relationship....where you're given an ultimatum to be a friend and enjoy good things or burn?.....that's not friendship, it's a dictatorship akin to north korea..

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Re: // by VLadipo: 8:58am On Mar 24, 2015
davien:
Is friendship a one-sided relationship...

Actually, friendship with God is not the same as friendship with fellow humans.
Even then, the kind of friendship you have with someone higher than you is different from the type you have with your peers.How much God?

Nevertheless, it is not by force to be a friend of God.
Not everybody who makes it to Heaven will be a friend of God.

God only referred to few people as friends throughout the Bible.
Re: // by davien(m): 9:10am On Mar 24, 2015
VLadipo:


Actually, friendship with God is not the same as friendship with fellow humans.
why? And since when did friendship become exceptional to "god"


Even then, the kind of friendship you have with someone higher than you is different from the type you have with your peers.How much God?
Are you referring to respect.....respect isn't compulsory you know.. undecided
We only use it to recognize people who we admire and/,or acknowledge their position...

Nevertheless, it is not by force to be a friend of God.
Not everybody who makes it to Heaven will be a friend of God.
Does non-Friendship with "god" come with punishments?


God only referred to few people as friends throughout the Bible.
No, the bible written by allegedly those same people claimed it did.....it's like I write a book claiming I met an alien and the alien says I did too(in the book) undecided

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Re: // by VLadipo: 10:18am On Mar 25, 2015
davien:
why? And since when did friendship become exceptional to "god" God

Friendship with God is different from friendship with fellow humans. God created and owns us.
We must obey, fear and revere Him if even if we are His friends.



davien:
Are you referring to respect.....respect isn't compulsory you know.. undecided
We only use it to recognize people who we admire and/,or acknowledge their position...
Does non-Friendship with "god" come with punishments?

It is compulsory to fear, revere and obey God whether you are His friend or not?
All the same, I dont think there is any punishment attached to not being His friend.
Only God can call you His friend. All Christians must strive to be called a friend of God by God Himself.


davien:
No, the bible written by allegedly those same people claimed it did.....it's like I write a book claiming I met an alien and the alien says I did too(in the book) undecided

God wrote the Bible using human beings by divine inspiration. The humans used by God to write the Bible never knew they were writing the Bible.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

2 Peter 1:20-21
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Re: // by davien(m): 11:03am On Mar 25, 2015
VLadipo:


Friendship with God is different from friendship with fellow humans. God created and owns us.
We must obey, fear and revere Him if even if we are His friends.
We've not even established its existence talk less of going further to what it allegedly did in the bible...
Plus your parents created you....you didn't just pop out thin air fully formed(spontaneous generation)...


It is compulsory to fear, revere and obey God whether you are His friend or not?
No sound relationship is based on fear.....

Fear is not an element of a good relationship because fear puts one at constant odds with danger.....one fears when one is endangered and that response is to keep one at alert of what we're supposed to do to minimize or stop(or even flee) the dangerous situation..

Here's an example drawn from the kidnapped chibok girls'...
Imagine if the terrorists are telling them this very same thing...."we're friends"....."we want you to have a relationship with us"...."Fear and obey us and you'll not be harmed"...."Any of you who refuses would be left to face the consequences"....

Even so...an omniscient being need not offer incentives and/or punishments for a relationship....Any relationship formed that way would be a false one(based on the promises of threats and not for a genuine gift-less relationship)....A being capable of omniscience would attract genuine relationships based on people's curiosity to know about it....not from an archaic "gift or torture" scheme(acceptable to dictators and bronze age men)

All the same, I dont think there is any punishment attached to not being His friend.
Does your bible sort support that or it's just your opinion? undecided

Only God can call you His friend. All Christians must strive to be called a friend of God by God Himself.
Good thing I'm not a Christian then and according to you...no punishements are attached,so why or what reason would you now use to convert a heathen?




God wrote the Bible using human beings by divine inspiration. The humans used by God to write the Bible never knew they were writing the Bible.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

2 Peter 1:20-21
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Did you hear any "god" say that or did you just read it in the bible then believed that the bible was written by men claiming they were inspired by "god" to write it as "god" itself was true?
And was it inspiration that made those people clip away mute than twenty books from the bible that are still referenced in its current passages.....like the book of the laodiceans? undecided
Re: // by VLadipo: 11:38am On Mar 26, 2015
davien:
We'v

You are carnally minded. Hence, you cant comprehend spiritual things.
The Bible says in Romans 8:6 that to be carnally minded is DEATH; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

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