Acekidc4:
To The Christians, Muslims and all Religion Believers, this Question is for all of You!!

According to a Christian Brother I ask this same question, this was is Reply;

He said and I quote; Yes I would do it because if the creator tells me to do something no matter how bad it sounds, it must be right. Because the person who made all laws can choose who and what law to break. Plus I would feel better knowing that a God does exist and I could devote my life to him!!

That was a Christian to the Core Reply to my Question!!
What do you think Nairalanders!!


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sukkot:
God will not command you to murder someone lol

james 1 vs 13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

Acekidc4:
To The Christians, Muslims and all Religion Believers, this Question is for all of You!!

According to a Christian Brother I ask this same question, this was is Reply;

He said and I quote; Yes I would do it because if the creator tells me to do something no matter how bad it sounds, it must be right. Because the person who made all laws can choose who and what law to break. Plus I would feel better knowing that a God does exist and I could devote my life to him!!

That was a Christian to the Core Reply to my Question!!
What do you think Nairalanders!!


Sukkot, Johnydon22, ifeness, Image123, Truthman2012, Kay17 Come in Here and Contribute ya own oh!!

Acekidc4:
To The Christians, Muslims and all Religion Believers, this Question is for all of You!!

According to a Christian Brother I ask this same question, this was is Reply;

He said and I quote; Yes I would do it because if the creator tells me to do something no matter how bad it sounds, it must be right. Because the person who made all laws can choose who and what law to break. Plus I would feel better knowing that a God does exist and I could devote my life to him!!

That was a Christian to the Core Reply to my Question!!
What do you think Nairalanders!!


Sukkot, Johnydon22, ifeness, Image123, Truthman2012, Kay17 Come in Here and Contribute ya own oh!!

Image123:


You asked an hypothetical question, unfortunately an "IF" that will never happen. One major thing about the Christian walk/life/pilgrimage is the knowledge of God. Not everybody dies immediately like the thief on the cross, after becoming a believer. You are to grow in grace and in the knowledge of God. Anyone that knows God knows Him as a God of covenant. We're in the new covenant and we can conveniently say that would not tell any Christian to kill anybody. Not in a dream, vision, through angels or any means.

Kay17:


Because your God is predictable and can be preempted?

sukkot:
God will not command you to murder someone lol

james 1 vs 13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

Acekidc4:


Why will you say that God cannot Command some1 to kill some1??

Atleast it's in the Bible!!

sukkot:
kill in the bible is often misconstrued as KILL. to kill someone as used in the bible is a spiritual kill. in biblical days, if the disciples went into a town and every member of the town were heathens, then i might say I WANT YOU TO KILL EVERYONE IN THIS TOWN. what that means is to kill them spiritually. killing you spiritually is killing you to what you are. if you are a heathen then i will intend to kill your pagan ways and convert you over to the LORDS ways. the bible is a book that uses old english and old ways of speaking.

having said all that, the LORD does use people to murder people physically, however for you to be used in that respect means that was what you were created for. you are an evil angel. there are many evil angels walking around us who work for the LORD. the LORD will not ask just anybody to go and kill. there are evil angels who do that task

psalms 78 vs 49 He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them. <<< KEEP IN MIND AN ANGEL IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS LIKE SOME INVISIBLE PERSON YOU CANT SEE. ANGEL IS A WORD THAT MEANS MESSENGER OF GOD. SO THERE ARE MANY HUMAN ANGELS.

PROVERBS 16 VS 4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

sukkot:
kill in the bible is often misconstrued as KILL. to kill someone as used in the bible is a spiritual kill. in biblical days, if the disciples went into a town and every member of the town were heathens, then i might say I WANT YOU TO KILL EVERYONE IN THIS TOWN. what that means is to kill them spiritually. killing you spiritually is killing you to what you are. if you are a heathen then i will intend to kill your pagan ways and convert you over to the LORDS ways. the bible is a book that uses old english and old ways of speaking.
having said all that, the LORD does use people to murder people physically, however for you to be used in that respect means that was what you were created for. you are an evil angel. there are many evil angels walking around us who work for the LORD. the LORD will not ask just anybody to go and kill. there are evil angels who do that task
psalms 78 vs 49 He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them. <<< KEEP IN MIND AN ANGEL IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS LIKE SOME INVISIBLE PERSON YOU CANT SEE. ANGEL IS A WORD THAT MEANS MESSENGER OF GOD. SO THERE ARE MANY HUMAN ANGELS.

PROVERBS 16 VS 4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

Zoharariel:

1 Samuel 15:2-3; Your god commanded Saul to kill the Amalekites: Men, Women, Infant, Sucklings, Ox, Sheep, Camels & Asses.

That is just 1 of many Genocides ordered by Yahweh.

The Jericho Massacre - Joshua 6:21

The Massacre of the Aradies - Numbers 21:1-2

The Midianite Massacre - Numbers 31:1-35

The Ai Massacre - Joshua 8:1-25

The Ammonite Massacre - Judges 11:32-33

The end of judges: 2 Genocides & 200 stolen virgins - Judges 21:10-14.

The Lord said to David; go and smite the Philistines - 1 Samuel 23:2-5

I could go on & on.

sukkot:
kill in the bible is often misconstrued as KILL. to kill someone as used in the bible is a spiritual kill. in biblical days, if the disciples went into a town and every member of the town were heathens, then i might say I WANT YOU TO KILL EVERYONE IN THIS TOWN. what that means is to kill them spiritually. killing you spiritually is killing you to what you are. if you are a heathen then i will intend to kill your pagan ways and convert you over to the LORDS ways. the bible is a book that uses old english and old ways of speaking.

having said all that, the LORD does use people to murder people physically, however for you to be used in that respect means that was what you were created for. you are an evil angel. there are many evil angels walking around us who work for the LORD. the LORD will not ask just anybody to go and kill. there are evil angels who do that task

psalms 78 vs 49 He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them. <<< KEEP IN MIND AN ANGEL IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS LIKE SOME INVISIBLE PERSON YOU CANT SEE. ANGEL IS A WORD THAT MEANS MESSENGER OF GOD. SO THERE ARE MANY HUMAN ANGELS.

PROVERBS 16 VS 4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

lepasharon:


Hmm...this is a new one so you are saying God did not physically kill anyone in the bible but they were killed spiritually ?!

sukkot:
Its a spiritual book not a physical book. The lord does not deal with your flesh. he deals with the spirit. now let me give you an obvious example of what kill means

revelation 6 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
NOW FROM THE ABOVE 3 VERSES YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE WORD KILL AND SLAIN ENTAILS IN SCRIPTURES. STUDY VERSE 11 ABOVE, IS THE LORD HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED PHYSICALLY AND ARE DEAD ? IS HE GIVING WHITE ROBES TO DEAD PEOPLE ? ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED PHYSICALLY CRYING UNTO GOD ? ARE DEAD PEOPLE CRYING UNTO GOD ? NOTICE IT ALSO SAYS THE SOULS OF THOSE SLAIN FOR THE WORD OF GOD. HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO KILL A SOUL IF IT IS NOT PHYSICAL ? IS IT ONLY PHYSICAL THINGS THAT CAN BE KILLED ? YOU EVER HEARD THE EXPRESSION AMONGST DOG TRAINERS ' HOW TO BREAK THE SPIRIT OF A DOG ' OR EVEN HOW TO BREAK THE SPIRIT OF A MAN. IS THE SPIRIT OR SOUL PHYSICAL THAT IT CAN BE BROKEN ? YOU STARTING TO SEE HOW WORDS ARE USED WITH REGARDS TO ENTITIES THAT ARE NOT PHYSICAL ? YES YOU CAN KILL A MANS SPIRIT. IF YOU ARE A HEAVY SINNER AND I CONVERTED YOU TO CHRIST, I KILLED YOUR FORMER SPIRIT AND CREATED A NEW ONE. AND FINALLY NOTICE HOW THE VERSE SAYS ' WAIT UNTIL THE NUMBER OF YOU THAT WILL BE KILLED SHOULD BE ACHIEVED BEFORE I REDEEM YOU ' <<< YOU THINK THE LORD IS TELLING HIS DISCIPLES TO WAIT UNTIL ENOUGH OF THEM ARE MURDERED BEFORE HE REDEEMS THEM ? OR ARE YOU JUST CAUGHT UP WITH THE MODERN WAY THE WORD ' KILL ' IS USED ? SEE, IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO JUST READ THESE SCRIPTURES. YOU HAVE TO MEDITATE ON THEM. WITHOUT MEDITATING ON SCRIPTURES YOU ARE JUST WASTING YOUR TIME BECAUSE THE BIBLE IS NOT A LITERAL TEXT. IT IS ALLEGORIES AND PARABLES AND OLD SAYINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO MEDITATE ON TO DECODE


PSALMS 78 VS 2 I will open my mouth with a parable; I will utter hidden things, things from of old-- << HOW THE BIBLE IS WRITTEN. OLD ENGLISH AND PARABLES.

ifeness:


Mr man stop twisting! We all are intelligent enough to know that those people were killed physically.

sukkot:
Its a spiritual book not a physical book. The lord does not deal with your flesh. he deals with the spirit. now let me give you an obvious example of what kill means

revelation 6 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
NOW FROM THE ABOVE 3 VERSES YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE WORD KILL AND SLAIN ENTAILS IN SCRIPTURES. STUDY VERSE 11 ABOVE, IS THE LORD HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED PHYSICALLY AND ARE DEAD ? IS HE GIVING WHITE ROBES TO DEAD PEOPLE ? ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED PHYSICALLY CRYING UNTO GOD ? ARE DEAD PEOPLE CRYING UNTO GOD ? NOTICE IT ALSO SAYS THE SOULS OF THOSE SLAIN FOR THE WORD OF GOD. HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO KILL A SOUL IF IT IS NOT PHYSICAL ? IS IT ONLY PHYSICAL THINGS THAT CAN BE KILLED ? YOU EVER HEARD THE EXPRESSION AMONGST DOG TRAINERS ' HOW TO BREAK THE SPIRIT OF A DOG ' OR EVEN HOW TO BREAK THE SPIRIT OF A MAN. IS THE SPIRIT OR SOUL PHYSICAL THAT IT CAN BE BROKEN ? YOU STARTING TO SEE HOW WORDS ARE USED WITH REGARDS TO ENTITIES THAT ARE NOT PHYSICAL ? YES YOU CAN KILL A MANS SPIRIT. IF YOU ARE A HEAVY SINNER AND I CONVERTED YOU TO CHRIST, I KILLED YOUR FORMER SPIRIT AND CREATED A NEW ONE. AND FINALLY NOTICE HOW THE VERSE SAYS ' WAIT UNTIL THE NUMBER OF YOU THAT WILL BE KILLED SHOULD BE ACHIEVED BEFORE I REDEEM YOU ' <<< YOU THINK THE LORD IS TELLING HIS DISCIPLES TO WAIT UNTIL ENOUGH OF THEM ARE MURDERED BEFORE HE REDEEMS THEM ? OR ARE YOU JUST CAUGHT UP WITH THE MODERN WAY THE WORD ' KILL ' IS USED ? SEE, IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO JUST READ THESE SCRIPTURES. YOU HAVE TO MEDITATE ON THEM. WITHOUT MEDITATING ON SCRIPTURES YOU ARE JUST WASTING YOUR TIME BECAUSE THE BIBLE IS NOT A LITERAL TEXT. IT IS ALLEGORIES AND PARABLES AND OLD SAYINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO MEDITATE ON TO DECODE


PSALMS 78 VS 2 I will open my mouth with a parable; I will utter hidden things, things from of old-- << HOW THE BIBLE IS WRITTEN. OLD ENGLISH AND PARABLES.

DProDG:

Do you remember when Yahweh commanded his followers to massacre those heathens spiritually?

Acekidc4:
To The Christians, Muslims and all Religion Believers, this Question is for all of You!!

According to a Christian Brother I ask this same question, this was is Reply;

He said and I quote; Yes I would do it because if the creator tells me to do something no matter how bad it sounds, it must be right. Because the person who made all laws can choose who and what law to break. Plus I would feel better knowing that a God does exist and I could devote my life to him!!

That was a Christian to the Core Reply to my Question!!
What do you think Nairalanders!!

I am new here so please excuse me.

I would like to ask why you would use a picture like that.

Thanks
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sukkot:
Its a spiritual book not a physical book. The lord does not deal with your flesh. he deals with the spirit. now let me give you an obvious example of what kill means


revelation 6 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

NOW FROM THE ABOVE 3 VERSES YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE WORD KILL AND SLAIN ENTAILS IN SCRIPTURES. STUDY VERSE 11 ABOVE, IS THE LORD HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED PHYSICALLY AND ARE DEAD ? IS HE GIVING WHITE ROBES TO DEAD PEOPLE ? ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED PHYSICALLY CRYING UNTO GOD ? ARE DEAD PEOPLE CRYING UNTO GOD ? NOTICE IT ALSO SAYS THE SOULS OF THOSE SLAIN FOR THE WORD OF GOD. HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO KILL A SOUL IF IT IS NOT PHYSICAL ? IS IT ONLY PHYSICAL THINGS THAT CAN BE KILLED ? YOU EVER HEARD THE EXPRESSION AMONGST DOG TRAINERS ' HOW TO BREAK THE SPIRIT OF A DOG ' OR EVEN HOW TO BREAK THE SPIRIT OF A MAN. IS THE SPIRIT OR SOUL PHYSICAL THAT IT CAN BE BROKEN ? YOU STARTING TO SEE HOW WORDS ARE USED WITH REGARDS TO ENTITIES THAT ARE NOT PHYSICAL ? YES YOU CAN KILL A MANS SPIRIT. IF YOU ARE A HEAVY SINNER AND I CONVERTED YOU TO CHRIST, I KILLED YOUR FORMER SPIRIT AND CREATED A NEW ONE. AND FINALLY NOTICE HOW THE VERSE SAYS ' WAIT UNTIL THE NUMBER OF YOU THAT WILL BE KILLED SHOULD BE ACHIEVED BEFORE I REDEEM YOU ' <<< YOU THINK THE LORD IS TELLING HIS DISCIPLES TO WAIT UNTIL ENOUGH OF THEM ARE MURDERED BEFORE HE REDEEMS THEM ? OR ARE YOU JUST CAUGHT UP WITH THE MODERN WAY THE WORD ' KILL ' IS USED ? SEE, IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO JUST READ THESE SCRIPTURES. YOU HAVE TO MEDITATE ON THEM. WITHOUT MEDITATING ON SCRIPTURES YOU ARE JUST WASTING YOUR TIME BECAUSE THE BIBLE IS NOT A LITERAL TEXT. IT IS ALLEGORIES AND PARABLES AND OLD SAYINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO MEDITATE ON TO DECODE


PSALMS 78 VS 2 I will open my mouth with a parable; I will utter hidden things, things from of old-- << HOW THE BIBLE IS WRITTEN. OLD ENGLISH AND PARABLES.

lepasharon:


This seems like another rationalization to me ....more excuses/explanations

now let me give you an obvious example of what kill means

revelation 6 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

IS THE LORD HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED PHYSICALLY AND ARE DEAD ?

IS HE GIVING WHITE ROBES TO DEAD PEOPLE ?

ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED PHYSICALLY CRYING UNTO GOD ?

ARE DEAD PEOPLE CRYING UNTO GOD ?

NOTICE IT ALSO SAYS THE SOULS OF THOSE SLAIN FOR THE WORD OF GOD. HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO KILL A SOUL IF IT IS NOT PHYSICAL ?

YOU EVER HEARD THE EXPRESSION AMONGST DOG TRAINERS ' HOW TO BREAK THE SPIRIT OF A DOG ' OR EVEN HOW TO BREAK THE SPIRIT OF A MAN. IS THE SPIRIT OR SOUL PHYSICAL THAT IT CAN BE BROKEN ?

YOU STARTING TO SEE HOW WORDS ARE USED WITH REGARDS TO ENTITIES THAT ARE NOT PHYSICAL ?

SEE, IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO JUST READ THESE SCRIPTURES. YOU HAVE TO MEDITATE ON THEM. WITHOUT MEDITATING ON SCRIPTURES YOU ARE JUST WASTING YOUR TIME BECAUSE THE BIBLE IS NOT A LITERAL TEXT. IT IS ALLEGORIES AND PARABLES AND OLD SAYINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO MEDITATE ON TO DECODE

[size=5pt]The bible is not a carnal terrestrial book. it is a celestial book. it does not speak of violence. another example. the bible says you have to stone your child to death if they are stubborn. do you think the bible is advocating literally stoning your child to death ?[/size] no. stoning is an old word for scolding and punishing. so you scold and punish your child till he dies to his wickedness. stone him to death. [size=5pt]the book was written when people spoke differently. when bible says ' kill your old self ' . is it telling you to go commit suicide ?[/size]

DProDG:
Sir sukkot, your write up has been reviewed and rated A for dishonest and ridiculous. Maybe if you keep reciting "spiritual killing" you might end up believing it yourself.


Why not use one of the verses I quoted?


It appears so.


Apparently


Tell me otherwise


No sh#t


Where did it say the 'soul' was killed?


You obviously do not know the meaning of the expression.


Not in this case, nope.


If by meditate you mean make up outrageous things to excuse Yahweh's blood-thirst in the Old Testament, I feel you bro.

The only reason to misinterpret your own holy book is if you are embarrassed about it.


It's good you acknowledge the flaws in you bible, now, I'll like to see the translation for 'stoning' and 'scolding' in Hebrew and compare them to the original text.

sukkot:
give me your verses but one by one. dont lump em all together cuz then it is overwhelming and it makes me not want to deal with it cuz it looks like hard work

1 Samuel 15:2-3; Your god commanded Saul to kill the Amalekites: Men, Women, Infant, Sucklings, Ox, Sheep, Camels & Asses.

That is just 1 of many Genocides ordered by Yahweh.

The Jericho Massacre - Joshua 6:21

The Massacre of the Aradies - Numbers 21:1-2

The Midianite Massacre - Numbers 31:1-35

The Ai Massacre - Joshua 8:1-25

The Ammonite Massacre - Judges 11:32-33

The end of judges: 2 Genocides & 200 stolen virgins - Judges 21:10-14.

The Lord said to David; go and smite the Philistines - 1 Samuel 23:2-5

I could go on & on.

DProDG:

I'm not interested in any specific verse and less interested in your outrageous misinterpretation. However, you're free to pick ANY at random.



However, what I'll rather see is how stoning in the modern bible translates to scolding in Hebrew.

sukkot:
i would like for you to pick one for me so i dont seem partial to any

DProDG:

As I said before, I'm not interested. However you may as well knock yourself out with 2 Samuel 8.

[size=14pt]What I want to know is how you figured out stoning translates to scolding.[/size]

sukkot:
[size=5pt]The bible is not a carnal terrestrial book. it is a celestial book. it does not speak of violence. another example.[/size] [size=15pt]the bible says you have to stone your child to death if they are stubborn. do you think the bible is advocating literally stoning your child to death ? no. stoning is an old word for scolding and punishing. so you scold and punish your child till he dies to his wickedness. stone him to death.[/size] [size=5pt]the book was written when people spoke differently.
when bible says ' kill your old self ' . is it telling you to go commit suicide ?[/size]