KoloOyinbo:


Well I have often tried to explain the difference between FAITH in a God and superstitious beliefs in Magic and Juju which do not exist (demonstrably so). But some people here cannot understand the distinction and so keep using that failed argument to justify their superstition.

I have seen a fair bit of not just Nigeria but the world. I have seen MANY claims of magic/powers/juju/curses etc and ALL are RUBBISH.

I don't want to be abusive or offensive but civilized educated people in general do not believe such rubbish. Yes a few Europeans claim to be witches etc but they are correctly regards by the VAST majority as the lunatic fringe.

If someone says they believe in this rubbish how could I ever trust them with a position of responsibility?

Remember it is easy to fool people and especially easy to fool those who are culturally inclined to believe this rubbish. You have a choice - stay in the past with magic and juju or move forward to the modern day like the rest of the world.

dirty b.astard. u mean faith in ur oyinbo jewish man who parades himself as a GOD

what rubbish! arrant nonsense!

These people worship a God(Spiritual Force) of fertility and fluid forces called Orisha Osun. ok! not some powerless dead jew like you!

and this is not juju ok! their powers lie in divination..

and who the fvck r u to entrust us with responsibility u old balding pale skinned pig!

PAGAN9JA:


oya leave that oyinbo p.edophile. he's been visiting Nigeria to ensnare and fvck one of our young galz u dont know the story of that p.edophile yet.

~ Lmfao!

PAGAN9JA:


Osun worshippers are priamarily concerned with fertility, not wealth.

and devil is u xtians and who r.ape youn kids in church and ur oyinbo slave masters who brought churchianity/tithianity to Nigeria

Despite your provocation, I as a matter of principle will not join words with you, all I can say is ;"may God forgive your ignorance "

PAGAN9JA:

dirty b.astard. u mean faith in ur oyinbo jewish man who parades himself as a GOD
what rubbish! arrant nonsense!
These people worship a God(Spiritual Force) of fertility and fluid forces called Orisha Osun. ok! not some powerless dead jew like you!
and this is not juju ok! their powers lie in divination..
and who the fvck r u to entrust us with responsibility u old balding pale skinned pig!

I was talking about ANY kind of FAITH in a deity (any deity). Therefore it cannot be proven nor indeed disproven.

Unlike a silly belief in magic/juju which IS testable and fails thus proving it does not exist!

Hope this is not too complicated for you!

Darkrebel666:


~ Lmfao!

The young babe is actually 25 but that guy is a ignorant savage!

KoloOyinbo:


I was talking about ANY kind of FAITH in a deity (any deity). Therefore it cannot be proven nor indeed disproven.

Unlike a silly belief in magic/juju which IS testable and fails thus proving it does not exist!

Hope this is not too complicated for you!

wats is juju? ur head is filled with juju. u shud beused as a guinea pig for juju testing.

rubbish old man bring ing juju into every traditionalist thread.

KoloOyinbo:


The young babe is actually 25 but that guy is a ignorant savage!

~ Okay... no problem ..
.

KoloOyinbo:


The young babe is actually 25 but that guy is a ignorant savage!

And you are 69 playing with young ladies who should be your daughter's age if only you were responsible enough to get a woman in your youth
Shameless old fool. You come here on a thread disrespecting people forgetting what ur life is - miserable

It's clear that the owner of that instagram account is a fraud and certainly not an Osun devotee

probably that fraudster must have failed in church business

KoloOyinbo:


I was talking about ANY kind of FAITH in a deity (any deity). Therefore it cannot be proven nor indeed disproven.

Unlike a silly belief in magic/juju which IS testable and fails thus proving it does not exist!

Hope this is not too complicated for you!

You don't even know what juju is u dumb pedo.phile

Ur stuupid Jesus is dead and such superstition of him being God is a result of ur unintelligence

macof:


You don't even know what juju is u dumb pedo.phile

Ur stuupid Jesus is dead and such superstition of him being God is a result of ur unintelligence

LOL! Meaningless ramblings from an ignorant savage!

macof:


And you are 69 playing with young ladies who should be your daughter's age if only you were responsible enough to get a woman in your youth
Shameless old fool. You come here on a thread disrespecting people forgetting what ur life is - miserable

Awwww! Cant you get a babe of your own? Try JUJU!

PAGAN9JA:


wats is juju? ur head is filled with juju. u shud beused as a guinea pig for juju testing.

rubbish old man bring ing juju into every traditionalist thread.

Not every thread, only where relevant like discussing non existent mermaids etc!

KoloOyinbo:


Not every thread, only where relevant like discussing non existent mermaids etc!

u fool! Orisha Osun is not a mermaid! Mermaid is from ur western sailor myths ok!

Osun Is the Yoruba name for a Goddess.

PAGAN9JA:


u fool! Orisha Osun is not a mermaid! Mermaid is from ur western sailor myths ok!

Osun Is the Yoruba name for a Goddess.

Yes I know. Do I have to teach you about sarcasm as well?

KoloOyinbo:


Yes I know. Do I have to teach you about sarcasm as well?

no u have to teach me hw to become kolo lyk u.

PAGAN9JA:

no u have to teach me hw to become kolo lyk u.

Try hard and when you are worthy enough you will know!

KoloOyinbo:


Try hard and when you are worthy enough you will know!

Hey,mr kolo oyinbo...
In as much as i am igbo,i cant make ignorant and insultive comments about d yorubas peoples beliefs.

being a NON african ,You have no RIGHT to tell the yoruba pple what they should believe or not and even spew out stuupid comments on issues u knw nothing about.
Tradition is tratdition and it is exemplary that these pple uphold the cultures and beliefs of their ancestors.
Its not ur business.
Dont think that because u've been in nigeria for a few years you know us so well and dnt wish in ur dreams to ever experience what juju/voodoo really is cos u'll regret it and if ur lucky enough to survive it,you'll run back to europe and never come back.
cruiosity kills the cat

KoloOyinbo:


Try hard and when you are worthy enough you will know!

Hey,mr kolo oyinbo...
In as much as i am igbo,i cant make ignorant and insultive comments about d yorubas peoples beliefs.

being a NON african ,You have no RIGHT to tell the yoruba pple what they should believe or not and even spew out stuupid comments on issues u knw nothing about.
Tradition is tratdition and it is exemplary that these pple uphold the cultures and beliefs of their ancestors.if they dnt practice their culture,who will?the asians?the europeans?
Its not ur business.
Dont think that because u've been in nigeria for a few years you know us so well and dnt wish in ur dreams to ever experience what juju/voodoo really is cos u'll regret it and if ur lucky enough to survive it,you'll run back to europe and never come back.
cruiosity kills the cat

CheeNayNay:
Hey,mr kolo oyinbo...
In as much as i am igbo,i cant make ignorant and insultive comments about d yorubas peoples beliefs.

being a NON african ,You have no RIGHT to tell the yoruba pple what they should believe or not and even spew out stuupid comments on issues u knw nothing about.
Tradition is tratdition and it is exemplary that these pple uphold the cultures and beliefs of their ancestors.if they dnt practice their culture,who will?the asians?the europeans?
Its not ur business.
Dont think that because u've been in nigeria for a few years you know us so well and dnt wish in ur dreams to ever experience what juju/voodoo really is cos u'll regret it and if ur lucky enough to survive it,you'll run back to europe and never come back.
cruiosity kills the cat

Not telling anyone about their religion mere commenting that Juju/Magic and rubbish like that does NOT EXIST. ALL educated people know that the world over. If Nigeria is to progress then she must rid herself of these ignorant superstitions.

Tradition is OK and ceremonies for entertainment and tourists but to believe in Magic?

Hi pagan9ja. I really will like to discuss with you on the Real Hausa culture you shared a few years back. Pls reply to the messages i have been sending you.
kindly contact me on:
oracleoffaith1@gmail.com
oracle_offaith@yahoo.com.
Either one is fine. I will reply the minute i get your response. I have been following most of your article on the Hausa people group. Pls send a reply either via this platform or my mail....pls

KoloOyinbo:


Not telling anyone about their religion mere commenting that Juju/Magic and rubbish like that does NOT EXIST. ALL educated people know that the world over. If Nigeria is to progress then she must rid herself of these ignorant superstitions.

Tradition is OK and ceremonies for entertainment and tourists but to believe in Magic?

if people can believe that a man was born of a virgin,died and resurrected after some days,he walked on water,ascended to the sky and its termed logical or 'civilised' ,why should the beliefs of others be termed 'superstitious'??arent they all 'myths/magic' with no scientific proof??

KoloOyinbo:


Not telling anyone about their religion mere commenting that Juju/Magic and rubbish like that does NOT EXIST. ALL educated people know that the world over. If Nigeria is to progress then she must rid herself of these ignorant superstitions.

Tradition is OK and ceremonies for entertainment and tourists but to believe in Magic?

You are so foolish. Magic is different from juju u illiterate
They have different words in African languages

Magic is merely a trick. You don't know juju

KoloOyinbo:


Not telling anyone about their religion mere commenting that Juju/Magic and rubbish like that does NOT EXIST. ALL educated people know that the world over. If Nigeria is to progress then she must rid herself of these ignorant superstitions.

Tradition is OK and ceremonies for entertainment and tourists but to believe in Magic?

You are so foolish. Magic is different from juju u illiterate
They have different words in African languages

Magic is merely a trick. You don't know juju

Omode ri Oogun o n'pe l'efo

macof:


You are so foolish. Magic is different from juju u illiterate
They have different words in African languages

Magic is merely a trick. You don't know juju

Omode ri Oogun o n'pe l'efo

I chose Magic deliberately. Juju is also merely a trick. Get an education before you start calling others illiterate!

Fools like you will believe just about anything!

CheeNayNay:
if people can believe that a man was born of a virgin,died and resurrected after some days,he walked on water,ascended to the sky and its termed logical or 'civilised' ,why should the beliefs of others be termed 'superstitious'??arent they all 'myths/magic' with no scientific proof??

No proof. No dis-proof hence we call it FAITH.

As for magic and JUJU (same thing to any intelligent person)

No proof LOT OF DIS-PROOF!

While people like you delude yourselves with this nonsense your development will be held back by your inability to face reality.

KoloOyinbo:


I chose Magic deliberately. Juju is also merely a trick. Get an education before you start calling others illiterate!

Fools like you will believe just about anything!

You fool, juju and magic aren't the same thing
We know both and call them different things here.

Juju can be scrutinised- many have done that and come with good report, many have witnessed it first hand
But magic is a mere human trick for entertainment

You don't know what juju is. you only know magic

KoloOyinbo:


No proof. No dis-proof hence we call it FAITH.

As for magic and JUJU (same thing to any intelligent person)

No proof LOT OF DIS-PROOF!

While people like you delude yourselves with this nonsense your development will be held back by your inability to face reality.

funny how this ode keeps talking about what he knows nothing about..intelligent people don't talk in matters they have no knowledge of. You are so lousy and foolish
A fool like you don't know what being intelligent is

you should rather ask people who know about the topic to coach you on it's principles and descriptions, rather than open ur gutter to say thrash

What disproof do you have to juju?

There's a whole bunch of disproof to your stuupid dogmas of a religion and your so called miracles
Only a bigot would appreciate ridiculous tales like we have in Christianity And come attacking African beliefs and practices
You dumb Irish who still hunt witches and rape little children

KoloOyinbo:


No proof. No dis-proof hence we call it FAITH.

As for magic and JUJU (same thing to any intelligent person)

No proof LOT OF DIS-PROOF!

While people like you delude yourselves with this nonsense your development will be held back by your inability to face reality.

All religions work on the principle of faith.
majority of the chinese are atheist or buddist yet their nation is still amongst the most developed in the world.
christainity is the problem of africa cos it has blinded most africans to believing a mythical being(jesus)would come down and help them solve their problems,hence they pray consistently but dont act.
the ancient egyptians believed and worship their gods i.e ausar,maat etc they were NEVER christians yet they gave the world civilization and built great empires.
christianity helped destroy africa,majority of africans are christains yet we're still in dis same miserable conditions.africa was greater in precolonial times

CheeNayNay:

All religions work on the principle of faith.
majority of the chinese are atheist or buddist yet their nation is still amongst the most developed in the world.
christainity is the problem of africa cos it has blinded most africans to believing a mythical being(jesus)would come down and help them solve their problems,hence they pray consistently but dont act.
the ancient egyptians believed and worship their gods i.e ausar,maat etc they were NEVER christians yet they gave the world civilization and built great empires.
christianity helped destroy africa,majority of africans are christains yet we're still in dis same miserable conditions.africa was greater in precolonial times

If you think clearly enough you will discern the difference between FAITH as applied to ANY religion (even African Traditional as a religion) and MAGIC/JUJU which can be tested and fails miserably.

On the quite separate idea of Christianity holding back Africa (clearly nonsense) it was partly colonialism irrespective of whatever religion accompanied it. The idea of Magic/Juju holds Africa back. Anyone believing such rubbish cannot be taken seriously by any educated person. Do you go to a medical doctor or witch doctor if your child is ill? Can juju eradicate Polio? etc etc.

Africa is actually progressing except in the minds of the lowest strata who are being left behind partly due to lack of opportunity. They take their resentment for this out on the 'west' associated in their minds with civilized values and culture and turn instead to a failed and worthless belief in juju/magic. They can even convince themselves it exists! Hence threads like a bird falling down and turning to a woman etc etc

The difference between FAITH and SUPERSTITION is really very clear (think about what cannot be proven either way as opposed to that which is testable, has been tested and failed miserably) but for some reason the armchair philosophers here seen to find the simple premise beyond them. (Don't know why?)

macof:


funny how this ode keeps talking about what he knows nothing about..intelligent people don't talk in matters they have no knowledge of. You are so lousy and foolish
A fool like you don't know what being intelligent is

you should rather ask people who know about the topic to coach you on it's principles and descriptions, rather than open ur gutter to say thrash

What disproof do you have to juju?

There's a whole bunch of disproof to your stuupid dogmas of a religion and your so called miracles
Only a bigot would appreciate ridiculous tales like we have in Christianity And come attacking African beliefs and practices
You dumb Irish who still hunt witches and rape little children

Hunt witches - why waste time hunting what clearly does not exist?

People who believe in juju/magic have nothing to teach anyone. They just need to go back to school!

I don't attack African religion only the stupid, savage and ignorant belief in juju/magic.

Your displays of crass ignorance are really quite amusing!

macof:

You fool, juju and magic aren't the same thing
We know both and call them different things here.
Juju can be scrutinised- many have done that and come with good report, many have witnessed it first hand
But magic is a mere human trick for entertainment
You don't know what juju is. you only know magic

To reiterate, in an EVEN SIMPLER manner to assist your limited understanding - I deliberately use the term Magic to illustrate how ridiculous juju really is.

Juju can and has been scrutinised. It has FAILED miserably every test. Birds falling from skies and turning into old women, BULLET PROOF CHARMS, money charms, etc ad nausiam. All your tantrums and screaming at me will not make it work at all nor will it make any civilized and educated person ever believe such primitive rubbish!

You may fool those who have been unfortunately denied the benefit of a proper education but do you SERIOUS fell that you can fool educated people who have travelled the world? There is little hope for you if so!