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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by PointB: 9:08am On Apr 16, 2015
IsraeliAIRFORCE:


Dullard should be his new name from now on.

If President Jonathan was consistently called clueless by nobody and somebody, then Buhari is on his way to be crowned the king of dullards

** This is to show Buhari's supporters how foolish it was calling GEJ clueless

Dullard then is Buhari's name, but I still reserve the right to add flavour to his new name by suffixing it with 'semi-literate' ! cheesy

If GEJ can be called 'retardeen' , 'clueless fisher-man', etc unrelentingly, I guess buhari's supporters should be able to live with their man called 'dullard', semi-literate, and host of others. What's sauce for goose is sauce for gander!

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by etukjohnson123: 9:09am On Apr 16, 2015
Is it true?

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 9:12am On Apr 16, 2015
omonnakoda:
Is Nigeria a democracy ?


Is this year 1983?
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by PointB: 9:13am On Apr 16, 2015
arewatech:


It says from all 36 states of the federation, meaning all states eligible to provide a minister. It does not state the each state must get one (or more).

Get that into your Dumb brain undecided

Seems to me you attended almajiri school?

"the President shall appoint at least one Minister from each State "

Read the bolded, very slowly, and revert!

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Nobody: 9:15am On Apr 16, 2015
PointB:


Dullard then is Buhari's name, but I still reserve the right to add flavour to his new name by suffixing it with 'semi-literate' ! cheesy

If GEJ can be called 'retardeen' , 'clueless fisher-man', etc unrelentingly, I guess buhari's supporters should be able to live with their man called 'dullard', semi-literate, and host of others. What's sauce for goose is sauce for gander!

Come, PointB, take it easy before you give some people injury for here!.. my hands no dey. However, the man dey appear duller with every passing day and every statement. We maybe in for a long thing

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by kaboninc(m): 9:17am On Apr 16, 2015
shaqhead:

Yes, our constitution mandates that ministers be appointed each state of the federation but goin about jerking off on that only makes you half smart.

Simple question: Can this portion of our constitution be easily amended with the APC in control of the houses?

So take a chill pill, if GMB government takes this route to achieve a lean government considering the dire straights our country is in economically, it wl b quite expedient!

Achieving a 'lean' government should not stop you from having effective representation of all ethnic groups in your team.
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Gbawe: 9:17am On Apr 16, 2015
Nellybii:


Provision in the constitution??
You are the real dullard here. Stinking nonentity referring to your president elect as dullard.
You don't even have a name yet.
The statement is not even credited to him yet you. Idiot have started ranting. mtcheeeeeeew

Don't mjnd the repellent imbec1le. These elections, and the behaviour of some folks thereafter, has shown that some people hate Nigeria and want her to fail. They will just talk malevolently, insultingly and unintelligently against everything The APC government is considering even when these happen to be the right policy drive which must be implemented if Nigeria is to make progress as a nation. Of course there has to be fundamental changes to how things are done. It is either that or Nigeria fails. When the Cameron government gained power in the UK they initiated far reaching cost-cutting reforms that affected sectors that had been virtually untouched for decades !!! No one talked of any constitution or such garbage because of the consideration that in progressive countries the Dog wags the tail and not the other way round. I.e man controls the law, for his own benefit, and not the other way round.

The law and even the constitution cannot be allowed to become an impediment to a nation's progress. The reason this is so in Nigeria's case is because the PDP, since 1999, enjoyed hiding behind the constitution as the reason it can never act in Nigeria's favour whereas the truth is that the PDP, when it fully can, fails to act to secure certain fundamental changes because this will work against the profligacy and waste its members benefit from. Even GEJ called "weak" bullied the legislators when he had to. We remember our legislators saying that GEJ should reverse fuel subsidy removal because they are representatives of Nigerians who had been instructed by Nigerians to reject the unpopular policy. Did GEJ not brush them aside with ease to have his way?

I personally cannot be bothered arguing with anyone about " ccnstitutional limitations and provision" because I know those are scams the PDP has perfected since 1999. Osinbajo is a very intelligent and experienced legal mind. No? We shall see if the constitution will wag the Buhari government or whether the resolve to change Nigeria will tame the constitution excuses PDP hid behind conveniently. I have no time arguing with folks who do not understand that laws are not created to hinder man and must always remain amendable to reflect a new position and changes that will benefit society. Once again it is a case of Nigeria, because of the self-serving greed of particularly PDP leaders, acting in an aberrant manner to the extent most Nigerians now think this to be the norm and even utter the same pathetic excuses PDP used to undermine and regress Nigeria. We shall see.
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by PointB: 9:18am On Apr 16, 2015
Mykevp2p:


Come, PointB, take it easy before you give some people injury for here!.. my hands no dey. However, the man dey appear duller with every passing day and every statement. We maybe in for a long thing

PointB is short for Point Blank (Range)!

I take no prisoner! I care not whose ox is gored!! grin cheesy

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by etukjohnson123: 9:18am On Apr 16, 2015
OK
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by kaboninc(m): 9:19am On Apr 16, 2015
PointB:


Seems to me you attended almajiri school?

"the President shall appoint at least one Minister from each State "

Read the bolded, very slowly, and revert!

Even almajiri schools teach better than most State Schools in Osun State!

Maybe he's still a high student in Osun State.
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by taharqa: 9:21am On Apr 16, 2015
omonnakoda:
Thanks ,sorry The provisions you cited were different numbers
I have read that Thoroughly now. The key phrase is MINISTER OF GOVERNMENT which unfortunately the constitution does not DEFINE but it seems we must have a minister of government from every state. We have always assumed that means a Minister in a Ministry(there is such a thing as Minister without Portfolio) but I am sure creative legal minds can redefine what a Minister of Government means e.g we can give the title to ambassadors. We do not have to create Ministries to fulfil the requirement

Hahahaha cheesy.....

Look at this funny smart-ass!!

'Minister Without Portfolio' in deed. What do you think 'Minister of States' are??

Hahaha....
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by otr1(m): 9:22am On Apr 16, 2015
I've been thinking about this too. The Ministers of States are just there doing nothing. It a way of compensating cronies with Federal appointments and nothing more. Wonder why our budget is 87% recurrent?
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by PointB: 9:23am On Apr 16, 2015
kaboninc:


Even almajiri schools teach better than most State Schools in Osun State!

Maybe he's still a high student in Osun State.

Then it's worse than I thought! undecided undecided cry cry

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by kaboninc(m): 9:23am On Apr 16, 2015
Gbawe:


We remember our legislators saying that GEJ should reverse fuel subsidy removal because they are representatives of Nigerians who had been instructed by Nigerians to reject the unpopular policy.

Gbawe:
It was when GEJ began messing up, with moves such as sudden fuel subsidy removal for example, we began criticising him.

Are you saying that one of the clueless actions taken by GEJ was removal of fuel subsidy?

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by cheaperstores: 9:23am On Apr 16, 2015
What will Mr Lie Muhammed say,chief propagandist and strategist of APC. APC under Tinubu and his team are a wasteful lot so they will kick against streamlining cabinets.Hope they won't rock the boat over this seeming differences. Buhari should tell us how much in naira the waste minister of states had constituted so that we can appreciate it and no secrecy about this 000.
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by ibietela2(m): 9:25am On Apr 16, 2015
IsraeliAIRFORCE:


Dullard should be his new name from now on.

If President Jonathan was consistently called clueless by nobody and somebody, then Buhari is on his way to be crowned the king of dullards

** This is to show Buhari's supporters how foolish it was calling GEJ clueless

Oh dullard, hopefully in the next few months demdem will be programmed to use that name on Pa Buhari
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by kaboninc(m): 9:27am On Apr 16, 2015
omonnakoda:
Thanks ,sorry The provisions you cited were different numbers
I have read that Thoroughly now. The key phrase is MINISTER OF GOVERNMENT which unfortunately the constitution does not DEFINE but it seems we must have a minister of government from every state. We have always assumed that means a Minister in a Ministry(there is such a thing as Minister without Portfolio) but I am sure creative legal minds can redefine what a Minister of Government means e.g we can give the title to ambassadors. We do not have to create Ministries to fulfil the requirement

Let me help us here:
A minister is a politician who holds significant public office in a national or regional government, making and implementing decisions on policies in conjunction with the other ministers. Some ministers are more senior than others, and are usually members of the government's cabinet.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minister_%28government%29
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by frankzone: 9:28am On Apr 16, 2015
caselessogbuagu:
Some 'white-elephant' ministries and their ministers must go down.





We are not here for a pdp tea-party, we are here for real business- BUHARI(2015).
I remember one APC governor created a special adviser for 'Lagos Affairs' tongue now beat that

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by taharqa: 9:30am On Apr 16, 2015
arewatech:


It says from all 36 states of the federation, meaning all states eligible to provide a minister. It does not state the each state must get one (or more).

Get that into your Dumb brain undecided

Bwahahahahahaha.......

bros, na wia you go your own Law School?? That Remedial Centre need to be reported to NUC and the Council of Legal Education, so that it would be closed down ASAP.
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by shaqhead: 9:32am On Apr 16, 2015
kaboninc:


Achieving a 'lean' government should not stop you from having effective representation of all ethnic groups in your team.
Mr. let me remind u since u seem to have forgotten.
There are 250+ ETHNIC GROUPS in Nigeria; what does that tell you?

We are complainin of d humougous cost of runing such an overbloated government with ministers from evry state, you want to kill us by bringing in "ethnic groups".

You wl agree wt me that Nigerians convergence point in government is not "effective representation" but "effective government" and if cuttting down on representation will make the government effective, why not?

Nigeria is like a Solomon wt 300wives and 700 concubines.
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Montaque(m): 9:34am On Apr 16, 2015
dustmalik:

Such provision doesn't exist anywhere. This is how you guys come up with lies as it best soothes you.
if you don't knw what one is saying, don't then say its a lie.
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by ibietela2(m): 9:37am On Apr 16, 2015
Gbawe:


Don't mjnd the repellent imbec1le. These elections, and the behaviour of some folks thereafter, has shown that some people hate Nigeria and want her to fail. They will just talk malevolently, insultingly and unintelligently against everything The APC government is considering even when these happen to be the right policy drive which must be implemented if Nigeria is to make progress as a nation. Of course there has to be fundamental changes to how things are done. It is either that or Nigeria fails. When the Cameron government gained power in the UK they initiated far reaching cost-cutting reforms that affected sectors that had been virtually untouched for decades !!! No one talked of any constitution or such garbage because of the consideration that in progressive countries the Dog wags the tail and not the other way round. I.e man controls the law, for his own benefit, and not the other way round.

The law and even the constitution cannot be allowed to become an impediment to a nation's progress. The reason this is so in Nigeria's case is because the PDP, since 1999, enjoyed hiding behind the constitution as the reason it can never act in Nigeria's favour whereas the truth is that the PDP, when it fully can, fails to act to secure certain fundamental changes because this will work against the profligacy and waste its members benefit from. Even GEJ called "weak" bullied the legislators when he had to. We remember our legislators saying that GEJ should reverse fuel subsidy removal because they are representatives of Nigerians who had been instructed by Nigerians to reject the unpopular policy. Did GEJ not brush them aside with ease to have his way?

I personally cannot be bothered arguing with anyone about " ccnstitutional limitations and provision" because I know those are scams the PDP has perfected since 1999. Osinbajo is a very intelligent and experienced legal mind. No? We shall see if the constitution will wag the Buhari government or whether the resolve to change Nigeria will tame the constitution excuses PDP hid behind conveniently. I have no time arguing with folks who do not understand that laws are not created to hinder man and must always remain amendable to reflect a new position and changes that will benefit society. Once again it is a case of Nigeria, because of the self-serving greed of particularly PDP leaders, acting in an aberrant manner to the extent most Nigerians now think this to be the norm and even utter the same pathetic excuses PDP used to undermine and regress Nigeria. We shall see.

You really have time to sit and type nonsense

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Michdear(f): 9:39am On Apr 16, 2015
anonimi:


You mean the Mega clueless directionless promises he cannot fulfil

Are you aware there is a provision for one minister from each state? Will your DoroDullard Buhari create 36 ministries to fulfil these requirement or MARGINALISE some states?
you are very clueless my dear,must we have 36 ministerial portfolios?
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Montaque(m): 9:41am On Apr 16, 2015
omonnakoda:

There is a difference between laws and Constitutional provisions.
When you say law can you quote it?
What you quote is a a law setting up FCC(I believe) but nevertheless it is an aspiration with little power of enforcement. Everything it does is SUBJECT TO THE PRESIDENT but does not apply to political appointments like ministers
How does the FCC enforce it and what are the terms of reference e.g any representation for Ogun worshippers, and what does geographical diversity mean? That we must have nomads and fishermen as Ministers?
Does this apply to the Super Eagles?

I have not seen any provision that identifies the states as the fundamental unit for addressing this aspiration(MINISTERS). This is something Jonathan said several times but I have not seen in in the constitution. There are so many reasons why it cannot be correct. The provision is so vague and lacking specifics as to be unenforceable through the courts. So we have seen all kinds on interpretations such as Wives getting the "slots" of their husbands states .Those are political interpretations but if the Government has 10 ministries you cannot create 26 more for that reason just as you cannot put 36 players on a football field. By a similar token is a state with 44 LGAs to have 44 ministries?
please read and interprete section 147 (3) of the Constitution.

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Gbawe: 9:42am On Apr 16, 2015
anonimi:


Instead of foaming in the mouth like a dog that has swallowed what is taboo for it, you should simply have addressed the issue of MARGINALISATION I raised, ok

You will need to show threads/post where you supported Jonathan after 2011 to be believed.

Good that APC controls both federal houses so no excuse for the DoroDullard not fulfilling ANY of his yoyo promises including true federalism of four years ago!!!

You're a fool and an irritating nuisance so therefore it should be obvious I will never indulge. Go through the archives yourself or get lost because it should be obvious to you by now that I never feel the need to prove anything to people I have no regard for.

Secondly, you and your hateful co-travellers are not fooling anyone here. You are all 'cheerleaders' of hate and proponent of Nigeria's failure so yes we expect you to be here screaming against things even a child knows must be achieved if Nigeria is to make progress. That recurrent expenditure, specifically related to bloated governance, must be reduced drastically and aggressively is beyond argument. We will see whether the constitution, even as you hope for this fervently, will prevent Buhari from succeeding where the clueless, corrupt and inept GEJ failed.

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by IJILEOduaMan: 9:44am On Apr 16, 2015
One stupid legislator-elect in lagos was still talking about "Minister for Lagos Affairs" OSHI O DA NI LE PAKO, Now we have clearer picture of how a true goverment policies and governance should be... God Bless Nigeria
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by taharqa: 9:44am On Apr 16, 2015
Gbawe:


Don't mjnd the repellent imbec1le. These elections, and the behaviour of some folks thereafter, has shown that some people hate Nigeria and want her to fail. They will just talk malevolently, insultingly and unintelligently against everything The APC government is considering even when these happen to be the right policy drive which must be implemented if Nigeria is to make progress as a nation. Of course there has to be fundamental changes to how things are done. It is either that or Nigeria fails. When the Cameron government gained power in the UK they initiated far reaching cost-cutting reforms that affected sectors that had been virtually untouched for decades !!! No one talked of any constitution or such garbage because of the consideration that in progressive countries the Dog wags the tail and not the other way round. I.e man controls the law, for his own benefit, and not the other way round.

The law and even the constitution cannot be allowed to become an impediment to a nation's progress. The reason this is so in Nigeria's case is because the PDP, since 1999, enjoyed hiding behind the constitution as the reason it can never act in Nigeria's favour whereas the truth is that the PDP, when it fully can, fails to act to secure certain fundamental changes because this will work against the profligacy and waste its members benefit from. Even GEJ called "weak" bullied the legislators when he had to. We remember our legislators saying that GEJ should reverse fuel subsidy removal because they are representatives of Nigerians who had been instructed by Nigerians to reject the unpopular policy. Did GEJ not brush them aside with ease to have his way?

I personally cannot be bothered arguing with anyone about " ccnstitutional limitations and provision" because I know those are scams the PDP has perfected since 1999. Osinbajo is a very intelligent and experienced legal mind. No? We shall see if the constitution will wag the Buhari government or whether the resolve to change Nigeria will tame the constitution excuses PDP hid behind conveniently. I have no time arguing with folks who do not understand that laws are not created to hinder man and must always remain amendable to reflect a new position and changes that will benefit society. Once again it is a case of Nigeria, because of the self-serving greed of particularly PDP leaders, acting in an aberrant manner to the extent most Nigerians now think this to be the norm and even utter the same pathetic excuses PDP used to undermine and regress Nigeria. We shall see.

This is one of the dumbest and honestly most unnecessary long epistles you have penned here for a long time, Bros. And except for ranting, you have succeeded in saying nothing.

The CORE of the issue is: There is a clear constitutional provision that goes against the grain of the latest 'promise' from your party. And for that promise to be fulfilled, that constitutional provision MUST be expunged or amended. Shikena!!! Nobody is saying that suggestion isn't a good one, esp to the ears. In fact, that's what we want. That's what we've hoped for. We are just reminding you guys that it would be very fooooolish for you guys to assume that the rest of us are as sillly as the people that cooked this propaganda obviously are. If you say you wanna do something, then tell us exactly HOW it would be done b4 expecting us to clap our hands for you.

Except you are suggesting that APC intends to rule us extra-constitutionally.

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Gbawe: 9:44am On Apr 16, 2015
ibietela2:


You really have time to sit and type nonsense

Scram id1ot and stop seeking my attention. I don't post for ret.tards like you. Abeg stop quoting me and stop reading what I write. Some of you are so petty-minded. You must be a big failure in real life.
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by taharqa: 9:47am On Apr 16, 2015
Michdear:
you are very clueless my dear,must we have 36 ministerial portfolios?

YES, dear. It's call the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. Ever heard of it??

It seems you are the one clueless here, dear.

By d way, I like your Pic @dp wink
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by omonnakoda: 9:47am On Apr 16, 2015
Montaque:
please read and interprete section 147 (3) of the Constitution.
We have already read it above .It is not for me to interpret
Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Gbawe: 9:48am On Apr 16, 2015
taharqa:


This is one of the dumbest and honestly most unnecessary long epistles you have penned here for a long time, Bros. And except for ranting, you have succeeded in saying nothing.

The CORE of the issue is: There is a clear constitutional provision that goes against the grain of the latest 'promises' from your party. And for that promise to be fulfilled, that constitutional provision MUST be expunged or amended. Shikena!!! Nobody is saying that suggestion isn't a good one, esp to the ears. We are just reminding you guys that it would be very fooooolish for you guys to assume that the rest of us are as sillly as the people that cooked this propaganda obviously are. If you say you wanna do something, then tell us exactly HOW it would be done b4 expecting us to clap our hands for you.

Except you are suggesting that APC intends to rule us extra-constitutionally.

Mumu, I know precisely what I am talking about but you are too unintelligent and too much of a tele-guided robot, operating on a software written by PDP programming language call "excuses 101", to know how Political leadership, especially as required to birth an age of reform, works. Keep talking impotently and you will soon see what I am talking about which is currently above your level of intellect.

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Re: Buhari May Scrap Ministers Of State-punch by Octaves(m): 9:48am On Apr 16, 2015
I'm begining to like this man Buhari.

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