malvisguy212:
the reason you ask this question is because you see God as a type of superhuman,the bible is not shy to called other creatures gods, why? Because there nature doesent look like the one who can create this universe.

Science cannot look for evidence for God, God created everything including energy but one thing we understand is that a spirit do not need energy to exist, I do not create this thread for argument purpose, what I observ that what I wrote in the op, what I expect you guys to do is to look for fault in the op and tell me but instead, you guys are just saying different things. I am not a scientists but I study science in my secondary school days but due to soo much problems, I drop out, but that doesent mean I can study it online. I want you to rethink again about your faith, believe me my friend, God is telling me that our time on earth is up. thank you for your time

theAtheist101:


Nice one! So you had to result to emotion, because you want to win an argument? The next time you hear from/see god, please him when exactly is this time? I am getting bored of hearing the same thing over and over again. And if truly he created the universe, he should have given us the correct manual to it.

Goodbye to you also, though I still have some many questions about this last post.

malvisguy212:
if you think I chose to talk in emotion in other for me to win argument, you are dead wrong, I am doing what every man will do to his child/daughter, but if you chose to reject God, it's your choice.ask your question.

theAtheist101:


Don't worry. I can see you are an ardent believer of god. I hope he gives you the mansion your want in his kingdom.

malvisguy212:
I thought you want to ask a question?

theAtheist101:


I thought I said don't worry. There's no point asking you any question. You should don't that for yourself. Question your own thoughts! All the best.

malvisguy212:
questioning my thought toward God is like questioning the existence of my parents.

johnydon22:


Do you need faith to believe ur parents exists?

malvisguy212:
silly question.

malvisguy212:
questioning my thought toward God is like questioning the existence of my parents.

theAtheist101:


Wrong! Your parents are vivid, but god is nothing. Prove me wrong by vexing your parents first, and later your god to see who would react.

johnydon22:


Oh really? You are the one that wanted to liken the existence of a god (you believe with faith) with the existence of your parents. . . Did you purposely wanted to sound dumb or what?

malvisguy212:
that is not how the bible define faith, the bible did not encourage the believers to have blind faith, but it encourage us to test everything and be fully convinced of what we believe
Romans 10:17 say;
Consequently, faith comes from hearing
the message, and the message is heard
through the word about Christ.

And verse 18 say;

But I ask: Did they not hear? Of course
they did: "Their voice has gone out into
all the earth, their words to the ends of
the world."

And in Romans chapter 14 bible encourage us to be fully convinced of what we believe with our MIND.

johnydon22:


Just like the muslims are fully convinced of what they believe with their minds right?

malvisguy212:
i am not a muslim, if you want to talk about a muslim, open your thread and ask your question. Thank you.

johnydon22:


You were talking about being convinced of ur belief and i cited another example of people being convinced of their belief. . . so its all Faith. . i may believe a flying pink unicorn and be fully convinced of it's existence it still doesnt make it true.

I ask again, since you are likening the existence of ur parents to the existence of ur god.. why then dont you need faith to be believe ur parents exist.. ??

malvisguy212:
the topic is about atheists and not muslims, when I made a claimed(christian faith is based upon evidence) I expect you to counter my claimed instead you say say something different.

malvisguy212:
if I haven't had an encounter with God I wouldn't have said that.

theAtheist101:


What was the colour of his teeth?

malvisguy212:
So I've been thinking lately about the
irony in atheists... and when I mean
atheists, I mean the ones that stick to
their guns, who try to define everything
within a material worldview.
From my experience of dealing with
atheists, I've seen them step into a pool
of ironic stupidity, think of this...
"The chances of gravity ceasing to exists
is 0000000000000000000000000000000000 00000001 %." If it did happen it would
be a miracle.

"The chances of the universe being life
permitting is
. 0000000000000000000000000000000001 %." Yet to them, it isn't a miracle?!?!
I don't understand that type of "logic."
On top of, how can they truly be "logical," or know that they are logical?
In their worldview everything immaterial has to be explained through material means..well then, how do they account for immaterial things that can't be found in nature, like logic? Where is logic growing? Which atoms in our head are "logic?" On top of why is that a universe with no objective purpose (i.e. heat death to all of the universe) should be life permitting? And that the universe should follow immaterial laws that an atheists can't justify like the laws of logic, and gravity?

On top of, they use the terms "free thinker" a lot but that implies that have
choice. In a universe where every
succeeding action comes from a preceding event (material determinism)
there is no true free will, or choice.
Choice within itself is an illusion and is
only the result of molecular anarchy and natural processes.

To me, it looks like atheism can't even get off the ground. What they define within their worldview "logic and reasoning," they can't even get off the ground. Their worldview is truly based upon Socratic ignorance and is philosophically bankrupt. Do they honestly believe this world is created by ancient chemicals, infinite luck, and blind chance? While I'm at it I may wanna bring up morals. First off, morals imply that we have a choice over the opposite (not having morals) which makes no sense because within their worldview there is no choice... Secondly there is no objective, concrete moral framework outside of the brain. In a practical sense, it's not that atheist can't be a good chap, or have some sense of ethics... it's the fact that all morals are a preference and are different from person to person, that's what true moral subjectivity is. The second an atheist tells another human what to do, they are being hypocritical and no longer consistent within their worldview. In short, an intellectually
honest atheist would be a nihilist who
says "I strongly dislike ______. or I prefer __ _______." But how about the ones that use things like evolutionary psychology, or humanism as objective framework?
Well first off evolutionary psychology
only explains what is, not what should
be.

I think i'm done but other than that I
HATE once atheists make the illogical
comparison of God to something like the
Tooth Fairy. What's really funny is if that were true then the disbelief of the tooth fairy would produce stupidity like above but it doesn't. Only disbelief in God makes one that stupid.
Atheist: "Science says it, I believe it, That settles it."to me, I called this "cowardice of an atheist"

1 Corinthians 1:27
But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;