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Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Lagosboy: 3:51pm On Feb 09, 2009
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Nnenna1:

Ritzy restaurants serve the tiniest portions of mediocre food, but reservations are abound. Why? Image.


Yes, Nigeria is "shitty," so to speak, but can the smarties here tell me what good advertising does for a country on the low? That's right, foreign investment. More foreign investment. Because the more money flows in, the more production will take place, and the more infrastructures, jobs, and the good things that follow will occur, making for a less shitty nation. Simple logic.

What about tourism? That's a lot of money for Nigerians who want to milk cash from bedazzled visitors.

I'm not saying that it's the magic pill for our problems, but there it is.






You have a point but the problem is Foreign investors come :

No power supply - energy eats up 35% of the cost and they wud shift it to consumers
No infrastructure on ground - 80% of iinvestors expect some essential infrastructure.
Tourism - do all the advertising in the world - people have to get to the tourist locations and the roads are deplorable , no ferries to take em there , no rail system.

one example is There is abudance of Coal in Enugu which could exported but there is no rail line from enugu to the neares port which is Calabar i guess. How do you move tonnes and tonnes of coal - by road? certainly not economical and efficient in the least.

we have to sort out our shit before calling for image laundering. How many attempts have we all made at image laundering.

Ribadu made lots of mistakes no doubt but his zeal towards curroption no matter how insincere helped Nigeria's image aborad as people saw some seriousness. Now amount of image laundering or advertisement would achieve the little he achieved.

I have seen many nigerian states ad on CNN but i dont think this ads get much tourists to those states.

Yankari games reserve is in Bauchi but how easy is it to get there in 1-2 hrs from lagos or Abuja airports.

Lets sort out our shit, build infrastrucure , tackle curruption and then start to luander the image
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Nemeziz9ja: 4:01pm On Feb 09, 2009
Yeah! Tourism is a potential but I cannot even think of traveling to some locations in Nigeria if I have to travel on the Benin-Ore road. I am sure a lot of people read and heard about it beyond the shores of Nigeria when Allison-Madueke cried about the deplorable situation of the road and yet she has left to another Ministry without changing the road to an Autobahn. So much for tourism, so much for image.
We kinda tell our story wrongly because in most cases its a WRONG story and thats why branding is not a panacea.
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Nnenna1(f): 4:05pm On Feb 09, 2009
Nemeziz9ja:

Yeah. I wish the logic is that simple. NEPA or is it PHCN now, will complicate the simple logic and thats why Unilever moved production to Ghana and noise pollution has come to stay.

That's one company in a bunch. What about MTN, Virgin Nigeria, Indofood, etc? There're many more franchises and international firms at home base. Sure a few will take flight, but campaigning for more investment means there's a chance that more firms will stay even though a few leave. Thus, making way for the benefits I outlined.

I understand what you are saying, and I emphasized that it is not a magic pill that will solve our problems. It is, however, something positive. Won't a positive image inspire diasporan hopefuls to return and make an impact somehow through entrepreneurships and leadership despite numerous challenges? After DECADES of negative image in the media, both foreign and local, who's to say that the opposite won't effect change? How do we know?

Living in America is a testament to the power of the media in shaping the minds of people. When positive images incite respect and loyalty, how do we know that our attitudes towards Nigeria will remain the same - disrespectful, disdainful, having tendencies to be corrupt, etc?

If Nigeria is rebranded for EVERYONE, if it becomes a pig in disguise because it is branded as a country that is not simply there to make money from and plunder, how do we know that the corruption, disregard, and disloyalty common to all parties will not be reduced in real life? Really, how do we know?
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by microgiant: 4:06pm On Feb 09, 2009
Nnenna1:

Ritzy restaurants serve the tiniest portions of mediocre food, but reservations are abound. Why? Image.

Yes, Nigeria is "shitty," so to speak, but can the smarties here tell me what good advertising does for a country on the low? That's right,  foreign investment. More foreign investment. Because the more money flows in, the more production will take place, and the more infrastructures, jobs, and the good things that follow will occur, making for a less shitty nation. Simple logic.

What about tourism? That's a lot of money for Nigerians who want to milk cash from bedazzled visitors.

I'm not saying that it's the magic pill for our problems, but there it is.

They did not start with a well established negative image.  Nigeria already has negative image, so rebranding will not change that image.  No genuine, honest investor will put his money in Nigeria.  We should stop deceiving ourselves by so called investment attraction.  Upon all the propaganda of an improved economy how many investors did the OBJ administration attract.  Only people dishonest people who like to operate in this kind of our environment will come (e.g. GSM operators milking nigeria).

Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Nemeziz9ja: 4:12pm On Feb 09, 2009
We know. But have you heard the lamentations of these MTN and co. too?
What about companies that do not have the financial capacity and clout like those you mentioned. The issue is, our problem has always been and branding can not solve it for us at this time, its "just make things work and right" not paint us good cuz no matter how hard you try to hide a smoke, it will come out.
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by superboi(m): 4:16pm On Feb 09, 2009
it is cheaper to produce in ghana then get ur products smuggled into nigeria, it's a sad fact due to our able custom. unilever will be the first but not the last. and please don't compare service firms to people that are in real sector, these are the firms that really impact on the economy, not mtn.
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Nemeziz9ja: 4:25pm On Feb 09, 2009
These are the news that define our brand.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-231241.0.html
and we do make a lot of news
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Kobojunkie: 4:50pm On Feb 09, 2009
They did not start with a well established negative image. Nigeria already has negative image, so rebranding will not change that image. No genuine, honest investor will put his money in Nigeria. We should stop deceiving ourselves by so called investment attraction. Upon all the propaganda of an improved economy how many investors did the OBJ administration attract. Only people dishonest people who like to operate in this kind of our environment will come (e.g. GSM operators milking nigeria).

BINGO!!!
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by mustafar1: 5:32pm On Feb 09, 2009
Nnenna1:

That's one company in a bunch. What about MTN, Virgin Nigeria, Indofood, etc? There're many more franchises and international firms at home base. Sure a few will take flight, but campaigning for more investment means there's a chance that more firms will stay even though a few leave. Thus, making way for the benefits I outlined.

I understand what you are saying, and I emphasized that it is not a magic pill that will solve our problems. It is, however, something positive. Won't a positive image inspire diasporan hopefuls to return and make an impact somehow through entrepreneurships and leadership despite numerous challenges? After DECADES of negative image in the media, both foreign and local, who's to say that the opposite won't effect change? How do we know?

Living in America is a testament to the power of the media in shaping the minds of people. When positive images incite respect and loyalty, how do we know that our attitudes towards Nigeria will remain the same - disrespectful, disdainful, having tendencies to be corrupt, etc?

If Nigeria is rebranded for EVERYONE, if it becomes a pig in disguise because it is branded as a country that is not simply there to make money from and plunder, how do we know that the corruption, disregard, and disloyalty common to all parties will not be reduced in real life? Really, how do we know?

miss lady, those companies mentioned above are most definately feeling the pinch as well. in the case of indofood, in order to cover their high production cost they gradually reduced the size of their product. unilever couldnt or didnt want to do that thus they chose the relocation option.

Virgin nigeria  shocked dont even get me started on that one, common lagos-london route they could stay competitive because the system in general wasnt well tuned in the first place. i flew with them this past december out of love for country and they left a bad taste in my mouth. yes airlines make mistakes but one mistake too many all on one trip is unacceptable. overbooked flight by close to 30 people and counting, checking people into hotels everyday because they overbooked and couldnt fly them as planned, issuing free tickets valid for a year on routes they fly to every disgruntled customer, changing peoples itinerary without notifying them. they recently stopped their jburg and london flights, these simple recurring problems are not far off from the cause. tell me how they'll stay competitive on the long run.


when you say the media can do a lot, yes it sure can but when reality of the matter checks in. even the media wont be able to say otherwise. e.g, what re-branding can lure a company into the naija-delta as it is. when millitants are holding press conferences themselves and parading their captives for the world to see.
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Nemeziz9ja: 5:44pm On Feb 09, 2009
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Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Kobojunkie: 5:49pm On Feb 09, 2009
Nnenna1:

That's one company in a bunch. What about MTN, Virgin Nigeria, Indofood, etc? There're many more franchises and international firms at home base. Sure a few will take flight, but campaigning for more investment means there's a chance that more firms will stay even though a few leave. Thus, making way for the benefits I outlined.

We have been “vigorously” campaigning for foreign investments for over a decade now. Many companies have come in during all that time and almost immediately left because they had to face the reality of the situation in Nigeria. Does more campaigning necessarily help bring back those foreign investors? I mean eventually these investors are going to be hit with reality of situation in the country and maybe forced to leave in the end.


Nnenna1:

I understand what you are saying, and I emphasized that it is not a magic pill that will solve our problems. It is, however, something positive. Won't a positive image inspire diasporan hopefuls to return and make an impact somehow through entrepreneurships and leadership despite numerous challenges? After DECADES of negative image in the media, both foreign and local, who's to say that the opposite won't effect change? How do we know?

Decades of DESERVED negative image in the media by the way, or would you prefer the media not report on the negative stories in the country, as many as they are? I mean sure there are the good stories that come out of the country but one can not attribute the large amount of negative stories as just being the media making these things up as they go.

How does the media put a positive twist on a story about how the reps took home 4 million each for sala/xmas bonus when millions of Nigerians are unemployed, have had no electricity for so long and do not have access to basic amenities?  How does the media put a positive twist on the state of security in the country where kidnappings remain on the rice? How?

Nnenna1:

Living in America is a testament to the power of the media in shaping the minds of people. When positive images incite respect and loyalty, how do we know that our attitudes towards Nigeria will remain the same - disrespectful, disdainful, having tendencies to be corrupt, etc?

The media can only do so much; it can not put a positive twist on the Iraq issue or the situation in the senate where there is a lot of bickering amongst members to date. The media could not put a positive twist on the fuel hike of last year or the current situation with the economy, how do you expect it to then perform miracles in Nigeria, if it could not do so in America?

Nnenna1:

If Nigeria is rebranded for EVERYONE, if it becomes a pig in disguise because it is branded as a country that is not simply there to make money from and plunder, how do we know that the corruption, disregard, and disloyalty common to all parties will not be reduced in real life? Really, how do we know?

We tried it back when Babangida was in office. We tried WAI ( continued from Idiaghon’s time); we tried SAP and MAMSA and so many other RE-BRANDING projects. How far do you think those RE-BRANDING campaigns got us? How many people do you supposed where changed?
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Nnenna1(f): 6:36pm On Feb 09, 2009
Again, I emphasize that this is not a magic pill that will solve our problems.

Let me state that this is not a magic pill that will solve our problems.

It will be to our advantage to know that there is no such thing as a magic pill.

We're so enamored by the elusive magic pill that we fail to see the little strides that each action makes. They add up you know.

So, what I gather from everyone then is that rebranding Nigeria's image, or at least emphasizing positives and reducing negatives for foreigners and LOCALS, is of no use. Revving up spirits for citizens as well as foreigners will do ABSOLUTELY nothing. There's NO aim, NO advantage versus loss, NO incentive. Zilch, zero, none, 0.  Nigeria has NOTHING positive to promote.

Seun, the originator of nairaland (where we all gather to heap negativity, ironically), is no indicator is there isn't a light of hope in Nigeria. A positive for youths to look up to emulate in the face of negativity, right? Past attempts by leaders who didn't do right with "rebranding," means that failure is paramount? It is not a matter of checking and correcting their methods, but throwing rebranding to the gutter, right? (I know someone will want to mention the negatives of Nigeria again being reasons for this, but now I'm only talking about media relations). Let me ask, aren't we all about solving problems?

I'm not saying that Nigeria does not need to be fixed (hence my magic pill analogy. You know, magic pill? Magic pill, anyone?). Of course there are lots wrong with Nigeria. But making the country magically perfect will not do much without relaying to the people in and out that there is reason to. Who even said that rebranding Nigeria's image was only for the government? Why not us? Why can't it be hear-say? Friend to friend? A night-club? A website from a random person? A magazine? Market-women rallies?

Why are we so rigid with our thinking?
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by mustafar1: 6:47pm On Feb 09, 2009
Nnenna, you r missing our point. we are really not against the rebranding. we are all for it actually, but in a situation where the reality of things negates whatever rebranding there could be, makes its it seem like the rebranding process is a SHAM.

rebranding nigerias imagine as a country where opportunities are bound for investors, painting a picture that th next best thing to invest in after sliced bread is nigeria. yet the reality of the matter tells everyone who is interested that the support system for ur investment is none existent. its going to be hard to erase that thought from the investors system.

her brand of rebranding isnt geared at fixing the problem swiss cheese method but geared at directing attention away from the problem only for the problem to resurface somewhere further down stream.
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Kobojunkie: 7:10pm On Feb 09, 2009
Nnenna1:

Again, I emphasize that this is not a magic pill that will solve our problems.

Let me state that this is not a magic pill that will solve our problems.

It will be to our advantage to know that there is no such thing as a magic pill.

We're so enamored by the elusive magic pill that we fail to see the little strides that each action makes. They add up you know.

You tell us it is not a magic pill but somehow it adds up? How come it has yet to “Add up” since the campaign for foreign investors started way back during Obasanjo’s regime?


Nnenna1:

So, what I gather from everyone then is that rebranding Nigeria's image, or at least emphasizing positives and reducing negatives for foreigners and LOCALS, is of no use. Revving up spirits for citizens as well as foreigners will do ABSOLUTELY nothing. There's NO aim, NO advantage versus loss, NO incentive. Zilch, zero, none, 0. Nigeria has NOTHING positive to promote.

Maybe you need to read the contents of the posts so far. RE-BRANDING should come AFTER starting implementation of change, not without. Like I already explained earlier, we already had foreign investors who are right now pulling out because of the poor state of infrastructure and security in the country. That a company like PZ, will after over 30 years in Nigeria see need to pull out, that speaks more to any foreign investor who initially had eyes on Nigeria, than all the fancy paints the communication minister can choose to use to paint that country. Investors are not a stupid bunch; they know to go around all the fancy pictures to see the real picture.

We have and continue to promote tourism but unfortunately, tourists who have been down there and experienced the bad situation are definitely not going to go out and advice others to come back, neither are they likely to come back because they have discovered the truth behind all the fluff.


Nnenna1:

Seun, the originator of nairaland (where we all gather to heap negativity, ironically), is no indicator is there isn't a light of hope in Nigeria. A positive for youths to look up to emulate in the face of negativity, right? Past attempts by leaders who didn't do right with "rebranding," means that failure is paramount? It is not a matter of checking and correcting their methods, but throwing rebranding to the gutter, right? (I know someone will want to mention the negatives of Nigeria again being reasons for this, but now I'm only talking about media relations). Let me ask, aren't we all about solving problems?

For every seun in that country, that are over 100,000 people suffering to succeed (afford 3 square meals a day in the same country). Please let us stop trying to use the HOPE argument as reason for anything in that country. There has ALWAYS been hope and opportunities in that country from day one. That is not in question and should not be made one at this time or any other. Even in countries like Congo, or Zimbabwe, there are tons of opportunities even as these countries experience some of the worst human rights situations in Africa. RE-BRANDING is not going to cause the fighters in Congo to put down there guns; it is not going to cause the pirates in Sudan to stop pirating. It only paints a false picture if no real solutions are implemented to quell the very root cause of the bad image.

Nnenna1:

I'm not saying that Nigeria does not need to be fixed (hence my magic pill analogy. You know, magic pill? Magic pill, anyone?).

Usually, you embark on re-branding when you are working at the same time to deal with the issues in your business. Restaurants close their doors, work on restructuring the business and restaurant and then re-brand at the same time or right after, not before. It has it’s place but not the way it is being applied here.

Re-branding is not new to Nigeria. We have done it so many times in the past without implementing needed change. Putting this forth for the umpteenth time as solution is ridiculous, as we now know that the brand is not necessary the problem but the product being marketed is faulty.

Nnenna1:

Of course there are lots wrong with Nigeria. But making the country magically perfect will not do much without relaying to the people in and out that there is reason to. Who even said that rebranding Nigeria's image was only for the government? Why not us? Why can't it be hear-say? Friend to friend? A night-club? A website from a random person? A magazine? Market-women rallies?

Why are we so rigid with our thinking?

Actually, if that country became magically perfect today, re-branding would automatically follow. Again, we need to understand what re-branding is really for and when it is good to apply it to our benefit.

Nigeria’s many problems are not as a result of negative media but more governmental problems which have lead to the negative media the country gets. Re-branding is not going to end the problem of bribery and corruption; both at government level and at the local level. Re-branding is not going to stop people defecating on the streets as people pass by, nor is it going to stop agbero’s in their tracks.

Putting old wine into new bottle does not make it better wine. People will know it is the old wine in new bottle still.


must_a_far:

her brand of rebranding isnt geared at fixing the problem swiss cheese method but geared at directing attention away from the problem only for the problem to resurface somewhere further down stream.

Resurface? Heck, right from the airport, they will spot the problem and realize that it was more likely dishonest advertisement from the get go. What are the chances that such investor will come back in the future?
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Nnenna1(f): 8:03pm On Feb 09, 2009
Kobojunkie,

In essence, highlighting hope and positives for ALL Nigerian citizens by showcasing success stories like Seun to others, by showing 1 in 100,000 to prove that it is possible, so that maybe the numbers change and people begin to have a little more respect for the country and treat it with respect, all via the methods I outlined (not just through the government), and advertizing our manpower for investors, will yield absolutely nothing. In addition, it is within the realm of possibility that without this, Nigeria can change overnight. Is this the summation of your argument?

If so, what would you suggest that our information minister, Dora Akunliyi, do instead, since positive media messages have been proven to be utterly useless in her line of duties? Care to tell me what she should be doing to show profitable margins in her field?
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Kobojunkie: 8:15pm On Feb 09, 2009
Nnenna1:

Kobojunkie,

In essence, highlighting hope and positives for ALL Nigerian citizens by showcasing success stories like Seun to others, by showing 1 in 100,000 to prove that it is possible,

You say this as if we have not tried this before. Showcasing success stories does not
1) bring electricity to the people
2) does not fix the educational system
3) Does not bring clean water to the people
4) Provide roads and services to the public

I mean it does help boost endorphins, but what good does that do when at the end of the day the same have to deal with realities? If you have not noticed, there are actually so many Nigerian forum sites out there. So many of them but Seun happens to be lucky that he was able to get traffic to his site, and no, you can not say he is doing something no one else is doing out there in Nigeria. So, again, his case is unique in a field filled with so many others like his. So, telling people of success stories is one thing; development is another.

Nnenna1:

so that maybe the numbers change via the methods I outlined (not just through the government), and advertizing our manpower for investors, will yield absolutely nothing.

Now you are selling it as some magic pill solution. How can telling people of the likes of seun help change the numbers? We already have so many of those stories all through the schools. At best what it would do is get more people to create more online forums, trying to get people to come over to their sites at all cost. But does that help alleviate the problems in the country outlined above?


Nnenna1:

In addition, it is within the realm of possibility that without this, Nigeria can change overnight. Is this the summation of your argument?

Let us stick to reality. Nigeria can change over night if it wants to, and that will only happen when we focus on solving the real problems rather than prescribing solutions that only aim to paint the main problems with beautiful colors and nothing else. RE-Branding is not to be used for MASKING our problems.

Nnenna1:

If so, what would you suggest that our information minister, Dora Akunliyi, do instead, since positive media messages have been proven to be utterly useless in her line of duties? Care to tell me what she should be doing to show profitable margins in her field?

She could focus on upgrading government communication for one and opening the lines to the people so we can better communicate with those we have in government and actually have a democracy. That is just one thing I see she can do to help better that country. She is minister of communication, and could maybe push for the Freedom of Information bill to be signed so we have full access to information on those we elect to better hold them accountable so we can get some work done in that country at least.
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Nemeziz9ja: 8:22pm On Feb 09, 2009
@Nnenna1: Still, I could see you are getting the point and denying the reality.
A perception of branding within a system like Nigeria's where the realities speak otherwise is a sham and propaganda and the worst case scenario is that the Nigerians within will be the ones to call those in the diaspora and explain the truth to them.
Reality Check: Dora Akunyili has always been a woman a lot of people looked up to and she has done a lot in her field to correct some ills, but as minister of information; heck no, she is just being setup as a mouthpiece and no matter what she does, it will go down the rot of the system as others before her.
Information in Nigeria is an undeniable thing. We see it, feel it and can't just understand the denial.
In a long time, an average Nigeria does not even trust any pronouncement made by the ministry because its the voice of the powers that be which are unfortunately, corrupt, unrepentant and immune to change.
Before you they start singing another song for Nigeria through branding, let them re-write the lyrics by providing power, good roads, employment enhancing and favorable business environment for those within before inviting outsiders. Nigerians are no fools.
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Nnenna1(f): 8:33pm On Feb 09, 2009
Kobojunkie:

You say this as if we have not tried this before. Showcasing success stories does not
1) bring electricity to the people
2) does not fix the educational system
3) Does not bring clean water to the people
4) Provide roads and services to the public

I mean it does help boost endorphins, but what good does that do when at the end of the day the same have to deal with realities? If you have not noticed, there are actually so many Nigerian forum sites out there. So many of them but Seun happens to be lucky that he was able to get traffic to his site, and no, you can not say he is doing something no one else is doing out there in Nigeria. So, again, his case is unique in a field filled with so many others like his. So, telling people of success stories is one thing; development is another.

Now you are selling it as some magic pill solution. How can telling people of the likes of seun help change the numbers? We already have so many of those stories all through the schools. At best what it would do is get more people to create more online forums, trying to get people to come over to their sites at all cost. But does that help alleviate the problems in the country outlined above?


Let us stick to reality. Nigeria can change over night if it wants to, and that will only happen when we focus on solving the real problems rather than prescribing solutions that only aim to paint the main problems with beautiful colors and nothing else. RE-Branding is not to be used for MASKING our problems.



I never said there was a magic pill. I never said Nigeria doesn't have problems. I never said that we should ignore these problems. I only mentioned that change IS possible, even in miniscule amounts, and that showing success stories might be a catalyst for a little change in the positive direction. I don't think I remember such an image being aggresively shown to younger ones in school, at home, and adults about. You do know that success stories always have a model. What's wrong with showing our model, what works for a few in the face of adversity for others to emulate?

You still haven't answered my first question. Will these attempts, showing that there is a positive to inspire people (including government workers those who participate in the corruption rife in Nigeria, even the poor masses) to be better citizens despite the negatives and empower themselves with their brain and(or brawn, depending on their station in life) despite the enormous challenges, yield absolutely nothing?

She could focus on upgrading government communication for one and opening the lines to the people so we can better communicate with those we have in government and actually have a democracy. That is just one thing I see she can do to help better that country.


How could this be better received if she doesn't convey this method through positive media, by showing that these communication lines aren't a sham and that some results (NO overnight change, no magic pill, just a few results)  will result? In fact, isn't bringing this to light in public part of a rebranding process?

I read that article, and given Dora Akunyili's competence in the past (depite a few controversies), we shouldn't be so shortsighted as to piss on her suggestions when she's in charge. Maybe she has plans in line with what I just explained?
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Nemeziz9ja: 8:35pm On Feb 09, 2009
And because she has been competent before does not mean we should swallow the age-old sham.
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Nnenna1(f): 8:39pm On Feb 09, 2009
Nemeziz9ja:

And because she has been competent before does not mean we should swallow the age-old sham.

Perhaps she will do things differently?

As to whether all that I said will only result in a sham, please reread my post to Kobojunkie to get the context of my reply.
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Kobojunkie: 8:51pm On Feb 09, 2009
Nnenna1:

I never said there was a magic pill. I never said Nigeria doesn't have problems. I never said that we should ignore these problems. I only mentioned that change IS possible, even in miniscule amounts, and that showing success stories might be a catalyst for a little change in the positive direction.

Huh? Now I am confused. What has a success story to do with change being possible in Nigeria? Is it the government’s job to show our models? Nigerians are not fools. We know change is possible; We know of the vast majority of opportunities available to us, untapped resources abound aplenty, so why does selling us the story of a few who have succeeded, most by luck, to do with Change?

Nnenna1:
I don't think I remember such an image being aggresively shown to younger ones in school, at home, and adults about. You do know that success stories always have a model. What's wrong with showing our model, what works for a few in the face of adversity for others to emulate?

We were sold stories of persons like Awolowo, Abiola and co --- Successful Nigerians back then who according to social studies lessons overcame all odds; that did not change the fact that we still had to go home to dark houses and bad roads. Those who emulated those role models still deal with bad roads, no water, and no electricity. How is that change?

I still am confused here; why do you believe it is the minister’s place to sell us stories of role models we have in society? How can a corrupt government choose to sell us role models instead of fixing the problems that we continue to complain about? Problems that we pay tax to fix and what not? Why did we elect them as leaders in the first place?

Nnenna1:
You still haven't answered my first question. Will these attempts, showing that there is a positive to inspire people (including government workers those who participate in the corruption rife in Nigeria, even the poor masses) to be better citizens despite the negatives and empower themselves with their brain and(or brawn, depending on their station in life) despite the enormous challenges, yield absolutely nothing?

I did answer your question. I asked you to look at the effects of WAI, SAP, MAMSA and all and what those accomplished in the same country in the area of changing minds the way you envision. Now I have to confess, I am confused again. Why are we empowering people here despite the enormous challenges? What enormous challenges are these? Why not put energy to removing the ENORMOUS challenges first and then push to empower the people with success stories?


Nnenna1:
How could this be better received if she doesn't convey this method through positive media, by showing that these communication lines aren't a sham and that some results (NO overnight change, no magic pill, just a few results) will result? In fact, isn't bringing this to light in public part of a rebranding process?

Ever heard the saying “Action speaks louder than words”? She won’t need to sell us on the idea much if she has already implemented the changes. If the lines are open, trust me, most of those on Nairaland will be on those lines ASAP, trying to get their ideas to be heard by those in government. I am not sure how you do not see this. It is only re-branding if she has already implemented the change or currently is working on it and then out there trying to tell us about what is going on and how soon we can start connecting. Else, it will be all the usual Bshit we are used to and want no more of.

Nnenna1:
I read that article, and given Dora Akunyili's competence in the past (depite a few controversies), we shouldn't be so shortsighted as to piss on her suggestions when she's in charge. Maybe there's more to come?

Even the most competent amongst us make mistakes. It is up to us, the people, to ensure that we do not embark on more white elephant projects that only end up wasting our time and money, and never really accomplish much.
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Nemeziz9ja: 8:52pm On Feb 09, 2009
I am not inferring that she will do a sham but I am sure that the system is a sham and things cannot be different until the realities are different.
Don't brand a bad road, no power and sick Nigeria. Thats utter folly.
Read my posts too.
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Nnenna1(f): 9:03pm On Feb 09, 2009
Kobojunkie:

Huh? Now I am confused. What has a success story to do with change being possible in Nigeria? Is it the government’s job to show our models? Nigerians are not fools. We know change is possible; We know of the vast majority of opportunities available to us, untapped resources abound aplenty, so why does selling us the story of a few who have succeeded, most by luck, to do with Change?

We were sold stories of persons like Awolowo, Abiola and co. Successful Nigerians back then who according to social studios overcame all odds; that did not change the fact that we still had to go home to dark houses and bad roads. Those who emulated those role models still deal with bad roads, no water, and no electricity. How is that change?

I still am confused here; why do you believe it is the minister’s place to sell us stories of role models we have in society? How can a corrupt government choose to sell us role models instead of fixing the problems that we continue to complain about? Problems that we pay tax to fix and what not? Why did we elect them as leaders in the first place?

I did answer your question. I asked you to look at the effects of WAI, SAP, MAMSA and all and what those accomplished in the same country in the area of changing minds the way you envision. Now I have to confess, I am confused again. Why are we empowering people here despite the enormous challenges? What enormous challenges are these? Why not put energy to removing the ENORMOUS challenges first and then push to empower the people with success stories?


Ever heard the saying “Action speaks louder than words”? She won’t need to sell us on the idea much if she has already implemented the changes. If the lines are open, trust me, most of those on Nairaland will be on those lines ASAP, trying to get their ideas to be heard by those in government. I am not sure how you do not see this. It is only re-branding if she has already implemented the change or currently is working on it and then out there trying to tell us about what is going on and how soon we can start connecting. Else, it will be all the usual Bull Crap we are used to and want no more of.

Even the most competent amongst us make mistakes. It is up to us, the people, to ensure that we do not embark on more white elephant projects that only end up wasting our time and money, and never really accomplish much. If she has more to come, then fine, but I will critic solutions such as these that only push to painting and not solving actual problems.


I will take your answer to mean that positive media images, as you expertly deduced, will yield absolutely no change for Nigerians in the face of adversity, and that Nigerians, without the aid of the government, don't need to do a thing regarding this image (via the methods I mentioned) for others until things magically go perfect overnight.


Nemeziz9ja:

I am not inferring that she will do a sham but I am sure that the system is a sham and things cannot be different until the realities are different.
Don't brand a bad road, no power and sick Nigeria. Thats utter folly.
Read my posts too.

I take it that you agree with Kobojunkie as well.

I disagree. Let's agree to disagree.

I'm ready to let this debate go.
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Kobojunkie: 9:11pm On Feb 09, 2009
Nnenna1:

I will take your answer to mean that positive media images, as you expertly deduced, will yield absolutely no change for Nigerians in the face of adversity, and that Nigerians, without the aid of the government, don't need to do a thing regarding this image (via the methods I mentioned) for others until things magically go perfect overnight.

If after reading all I posted above, this is what you choose to believe, then that is good for you. I can not help you read my words as they are. You have to choose to do so on your own in order to better understand the message contained.
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Nemeziz9ja: 11:57am On Feb 10, 2009
@ Nnenna1: See, the issue is simple.
You can only brand what you have.
Even, if you pave the roads of Nigeria with Gold; bring in CNN,BBC and SKyNews to cover it, when they arrive and ask questions, they will know the realities and thats the sham I am referring to.
We cannot continue with our window dressing in this country, what we need to do is change the realities and the realities will launder itself.
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Nobody: 1:16pm On Feb 10, 2009
I beleive in Nigeria Hopelessly, but i dont beleive branding is our problem. Ghana does not need to re- brand their country now, their credible elections, Government accountability, stable lights and good roads is branding their country for them. These have attracted tourist, Investors, Industries and Soared their real estate value(Shamelessly its our "Rebranders' are the ones moving ton Ghana).
This is simple Logic, Nigerians appauld even the smallest achivement by Governmet (Lagos Governor, Fuel price reduction), good policies sell themselves, Dora please be sensible, dont waste our money and your time and energy, Focus it on fighting the Telecom operators so they can lower our tarrifs, now thats re- branding.
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Nemeziz9ja: 1:19pm On Feb 10, 2009
Yeah right. grin
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by cutie25: 7:42pm On Feb 10, 2009
i pray for this woman everyday. i really hope she succeeds in her job.
grin
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by Nemeziz9ja: 11:39pm On Feb 10, 2009
@Cutie: keep praying and keep faith but remember that faith without work is "kaput" dead faith. The fact still remains that she is a square peg in a round hole and what Nigeria needs now is not "re-branding" but overhaul and adopt a system where energy and development is sustainable.Unfortunately,the people that appointed her are the real sabotuers,so she is staring system-induced failure in face.
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by obinna79: 6:54pm On Mar 10, 2009
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by RichyBlacK(m): 7:20pm On Mar 10, 2009
As of today, I consider Nigeria a failed state!
Re: Dora Akunyili And Her "sudden" Revelation On Nigeria Problems! by blacksta(m): 10:40pm On Mar 10, 2009
I must say Dora is a very sincere woman has good intentions for Nigeria but i believe she is very ignorant in this area of rebranding maybe she thinks Nigeria is a drug. Fact of the matter one has tackle underlying factors which would automatically generate a postive image for any country. A good image has many pillars i.e improved standing of living, Rule of law ( nobody should be above the law), Electoral reforms , infrastructure and many other areas. As somebody already mentioned you cannot rebrand shit it needs to be burnt, disposed or cleared.

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