Is our Lord Jesus Christ against Tithing. Jesus was born under the law to fulfill the law (Gal. 4:4-5)… He was bound to it in His life and to rebel against it would be to sin. Also note that the point of these versus when read in context was not to promote tithing, but to promote matters of the heart and show hypocrisy on the parts of the Pharisees. When read aloud and in context no-one will point to tithing and say that is the point, it simply is not the emphasis.

Also note that Jesus refers to the practice of tithing in the past tense… he doesn’t say “you ought to do” but instead says, “you ought to have done”—a past tense command.

Jesus did not say the New Covenant church should have tithed, He said the Pharisees should have… The simple truth is that under the law not everyone was to tithe, only certain people were (levites, farmers, and those who tended herds or flocks), Pharisees among them. If we are to Tithe now, where are the instructions that everyone is to tithe, and not just the same certain individuals that tithed under the previous law?

Finally, Jesus mentions tithing three times (Matt 23:23, Lk 11:42, Lk 18:11- 14) and all three times condemns the tither. Jesus says that the actions of these people were not justified (lk 18:14) why are using them as an example, and the only example, to justify tithing? The truth is, they should never be used as a model for someone who is justified; nor should they be used as a model for tithing. There simply is no justified tithing model in the New Testament.

Many argue “No scripture mentions a substitute program for tithing in the N.T, ergo tithing is still in place” -- I would disagree, the substitute is giving. References for giving are proliferant throughout the New Testament.

There are several fundamental flaws with the belief that Jesus reinstates tithing, but one of the biggest is that there are no instructions for New Testament tithing by Jesus, the Apostles, or the early church. With this in mind we would have to revert to the instructions of Old Testament tithing… this does not look at all like what is taught today, and in fact is far more supportive of giving to the poor, the widow, the stranger, the fatherless, and even ministers as they would probably take the place of the Levite. I do not see how this is much different than the teaching of giving in the first place. Unfortunately tithe teachers do not usually teach tithing or giving to those in need, but only to the church as it is in their best interest.

I do not feel that tithing is part of the New Covenant church, and I am not alone in this mindset as many Theologians are and always were on board with this, as are historians who can trace tithing’s roots to the late 1800’s. It has come to my attention that those who do teach the tithe are usually supported by tithing themselves, and not uninvolved parties with nothing to lose. A careful study of old testament tithing brings about many questions of tithing as practiced today, and a look at New Testament tithing reveals a lack of support for the system as all New Testament versus referring to tithing refer to it under the Law and not as part of the New Covenant.
Give lavishly to promote the gospel, help the poor not by ten percent law but by the prompting of the Holy Spirit. When you do so you are storing for yourself wealth in heaven cf Matt 6 vs 19.
Quit allowing some religious folks put you on a guilty trip that if you don't pay your tithe, that you are robbing God. It is all false., the law of tithing was giving to the Israelites because of levitical priesthood, they tribe of Levi were selected by God, and was given no land or inheritance by Moses hence the law of tithing. Now Christ has changed the priesthood. So the law has been changed cf Hebrew 7 vs 11. Present pastors inherit things with there brothers. Apostle Paul make tent to support himself and the poor.
Giving is good but don't do it as a ritual... If tithing is your personal Covenant with God, go ahead, but don't do it because of fear of calamity.

Nice write up

This is one topic that's meant to be on FP so that Bible Scholars can delibrate on... Nice write up...

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Push this thing forward us please... It's a religious debate and people like me out there need counter arguement... Thank you

Well tithing, like circumcision, did not originate from the law! Abraham, the father of those that believe gave tithes to Melchizedek centuries before the law was given!

Abram paid tithe once from goods that didn't belong to him. {Later it became a law}
Abram done a lot more than just paid a tithe, but do I hear anybody living the way he lived. He wanted a son and Sarah his own wife couldn't give him one, and yet the slave woman could.

You are all to eager to follow up on the tithing act Abraham had given; but are you willing to follow up on all the acts Abraham had committed, say an adultery act with another woman, like Abraham had done.
We are descendants of Abraham, not his followers.
We belong to Christ and Christ did not tithe, nor shall we tithe, Christ wasn't against tithing, because it wasn't His custom to tithe.
Like its not our custom either.

Romans 4:13-16, For the promise to Abraham or to his descendants that he would be heir of the world was not through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. And the righteousness of faith is Christ.
For if those who are of the law heirs-Faith is made void and the promise is nullified {made of no effect.}
Tithing was later given as a law, and anybody who is under the law is under the curse of that law.

Scholar8200:
Well tithing, like circumcision, did not originate from the law! Abraham, the father of those that believe gave tithes to Melchizedek centuries before the law was given!

brocab:
Abram paid tithe once from goods that didn't belong to him. {Later it became a law}
Abram done a lot more than just paid a tithe, but do I hear anybody living the way he lived. He wanted a son and Sarah his own wife couldn't give him one, and yet the slave woman could.

You are all to eager to follow up on the tithing act Abraham had given; but are you willing to follow up on all the acts Abraham had committed, say an adultery act with another woman, like Abraham had done.
We are descendants of Abraham, not his followers.
We belong to Christ and Christ did not tithe, nor shall we tithe, Christ wasn't against tithing, because it wasn't His custom to tithe.
Like its not our custom either.

Romans 4:13-16, For the promise to Abraham or to his descendants that he would be heir of the world was not through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. And the righteousness of faith is Christ.
For if those who are of the law heirs-Faith is made void and the promise is nullified {made of no effect.}
Tithing was later given as a law, and anybody who is under the law is under the curse of that law.

There's nothing in my post that suggests a for or against stance; it's just a statement of fact. Besides, no one has suggested that we copy the mistakes of anyone. In the NT, we are under the Lordship of Christ. Meaning all we are and have (not just a tenth) are under His control. Hence we withhold and/or dispense at His command.

I am just spreading the word brother-letting you know everybody who claims they tithe, say they follow after Abraham, which is wrong, we follow after Christ..
And we are Abraham's descendants not his followers, so those who tithe, are not tithing for Christ, but for themselves..

Scholar8200:
There's nothing in my post that suggests a for or against stance; it's just a statement of fact. Besides, no one has suggested that we copy the mistakes of anyone. In the NT, we are under the Lordship of Christ. Meaning all we are and have (not just a tenth) are under His control. Hence we withhold and/or dispense at His command.

brocab:
I am just spreading the word brother-letting you know everybody who claims they tithe, say they follow after Abraham, which is wrong, we follow after Christ..
And we are Abraham's descendants not his followers, so those who tithe, are not tithing for Christ, but for themselves..

Noted.

brocab:
I am just spreading the word brother-letting you know everybody who claims they tithe, say they follow after Abraham, which is wrong, we follow after Christ..
And we are Abraham's descendants not his followers, so those who tithe, are not tithing for Christ, but for themselves..

Well said brother... Tithing is just being under law.

Tithing is an old law, and should not be practiced in the new testament.

Don't tithe at all-Keep on preaching brother-the world needs to hear you.

dukecharles:
Is our Lord Jesus Christ against Tithing. Jesus was born under the law to fulfill the law (Gal. 4:4-5)… He was bound to it in His life and to rebel against it would be to sin. Also note that the point of these versus when read in context was not to promote tithing, but to promote matters of the heart and show hypocrisy on the parts of the Pharisees. When read aloud and in context no-one will point to tithing and say that is the point, it simply is not the emphasis.

Also note that Jesus refers to the practice of tithing in the past tense… he doesn’t say “you ought to do” but instead says, “you ought to have done”—a past tense command.

Jesus did not say the New Covenant church should have tithed, He said the Pharisees should have… The simple truth is that under the law not everyone was to tithe, only certain people were (levites, farmers, and those who tended herds or flocks), Pharisees among them. If we are to Tithe now, where are the instructions that everyone is to tithe, and not just the same certain individuals that tithed under the previous law?

Finally, Jesus mentions tithing three times (Matt 23:23, Lk 11:42, Lk 18:11- 14) and all three times condemns the tither. Jesus says that the actions of these people were not justified (lk 18:14) why are using them as an example, and the only example, to justify tithing? The truth is, they should never be used as a model for someone who is justified; nor should they be used as a model for tithing. There simply is no justified tithing model in the New Testament.

Many argue “No scripture mentions a substitute program for tithing in the N.T, ergo tithing is still in place” -- I would disagree, the substitute is giving. References for giving are proliferant throughout the New Testament.

There are several fundamental flaws with the belief that Jesus reinstates tithing, but one of the biggest is that there are no instructions for New Testament tithing by Jesus, the Apostles, or the early church. With this in mind we would have to revert to the instructions of Old Testament tithing… this does not look at all like what is taught today, and in fact is far more supportive of giving to the poor, the widow, the stranger, the fatherless, and even ministers as they would probably take the place of the Levite. I do not see how this is much different than the teaching of giving in the first place. Unfortunately tithe teachers do not usually teach tithing or giving to those in need, but only to the church as it is in their best interest.

I do not feel that tithing is part of the New Covenant church, and I am not alone in this mindset as many Theologians are and always were on board with this, as are historians who can trace tithing’s roots to the late 1800’s. It has come to my attention that those who do teach the tithe are usually supported by tithing themselves, and not uninvolved parties with nothing to lose. A careful study of old testament tithing brings about many questions of tithing as practiced today, and a look at New Testament tithing reveals a lack of support for the system as all New Testament versus referring to tithing refer to it under the Law and not as part of the New Covenant.
Give lavishly to promote the gospel, help the poor not by ten percent law but by the prompting of the Holy Spirit. When you do so you are storing for yourself wealth in heaven cf Matt 6 vs 19.
Quit allowing some religious folks put you on a guilty trip that if you don't pay your tithe, that you are robbing God. It is all false., the law of tithing was giving to the Israelites because of levitical priesthood, they tribe of Levi were selected by God, and was given no land or inheritance by Moses hence the law of tithing. Now Christ has changed the priesthood. So the law has been changed cf Hebrew 7 vs 11. Present pastors inherit things with there brothers. Apostle Paul make tent to support himself and the poor.
Giving is good but don't do it as a ritual... If tithing is your personal Covenant with God, go ahead, but don't do it because of fear of calamity.

Slowly but surely, the word of God is spreading back into the Churches, its a matter of time when all the preachers-pastors even priest, will come to a stand still, and their money flow "will never be-like never before.
The Lord said He is the Word and the Truth and the Life, many who were lost, are now found.
Matthew 20:16 "The first will come last and the last will come first-and many are called but few are chosen
Amen.

dukecharles:
Tithing is an old law, and should not be practiced in the new testament.