johnydon22:
You can imagine!!!

hehehehehe...We Need To Talk O, Johnny

A lot of these so called Ogbanje cases are Psychological but because of our deep rooted superstitions.. we would rather believe the absurd than the obvious.....

shotster50:
A lot of these so called Ogbanje cases are Psychological but because of our deep rooted superstitions.. we would rather believe the absurd than the obvious.....

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This is truer than true and it is because most African parents do not care to understand their children, understand their feelings, understand their fears,.understand their wants and their opinions.

African parents are ruled by nonsensical superstition as well as exhibit stupendous autocracy at home.

the opinions of the children do not matter to them neither are they interested to listen to the child say their problems.

Most children are beaten at the slightest provocation instilling a fear in these young minds that that they rarely communicate their plight, wants, fears, problems with their parents.

Beating children is a form of physical abuse that must stop, they are children for crying out loud and should be understood not beaten.

they should be given a listening ear not shout at.

Break the barrier of ultimate authority in a house, get closer to the kids and become their friend and they will not only love you but they will trust you and feel free to communicate their minds with you.

children should not be taught with fear but with love, patience, care, understanding and gentleness[/b]

Dear Johnnydon22.
What you did is very commendable. But I need you to know that if you dismiss this, maybe it's because you are yet to experience it or you are living in denial.

Let me tell you a personal experience.
I got a job and moved to PH some years ago. The compound I lived, there was a family. Their mother died shortly before I moved in there. She was the bread winner of the family so when she died, the man didn't know what to do with the 5Children. There are from Abia State. The same year the man quickly brought in another woman to replace the dead woman, but this one was also lazy. The Children became helps in their house. The man wanted to start using the senior girl as collateral to get money from men, that made the girl to always insult her father, I didn't know why that was. One day I rebuked her and she started crying and told me everything. That was when I moved in to that area newly. The senior one made herself available, she knew I was hardly home, she wanted to help with house chores so I let her. When I discovered what was going on, I gave her my house key. Everything was free for her and her younger ones.

Sometime later I had an accident, when I got back from the hospital, their dad was gone, what happened, they said, he became sick and left for treatment and never came back. Later his woman also left. The Children became my responsibility just like that. I didn't mind. The senior girl who was about 18 at the time was very hardworking and industrious. With this I wanted to start something for all of them to do, so that at least feeding won't be a case. Since she cooks very well, I wanted her to start cooking good jelof rice and be taking to a very big government girl's school very close to where we lived. I had bought almost everything for them to start, then one day something happened. Something that if it didn't happen in my house, I would have said it's a big lie.
I had money in my hand bag. Remember I had leg issue, so I was immobile. I didn't move out of were I was, and the bag was just by me on my bed, but the money inside was gone.
I called everyone and asked, no one knew anything about it. Mma the last girl was about 14yrs at the time, hardly talked, so she said nothing and no one else suspected her. We searched everywhere, it was gone. I left it at that. In the evening of that day, I needed to get something from my bag, my money was there. Exactly were it was before. It was too much for me, so I called everyone again. How can this be? Everything inside this bag was removed when we were looking for this money, where did this money come from? The senior girl said, but Aunty you have not stepped outside, if someone put back the money, you shd ve seen the person. I never understood it. I just prayed and left it.

Later that same evening, Mma called my own younger sister who was Mma's age maid and started telling her about the money I was looking for. My sister came to me and said, pls call Mma privately and ask her again about this money, there's something she told me that I can't believe my ears.
I asked what she said, she told me that Mma said, the money I was looking for she took it but that she didn't touch the bag. She said, 8she just looked at the bag and the money disappeared and appeared in her school bag.

Can you John believe that? So I called her. This was around 7pm. And subtly started moving in on her. After a while, this girl opened her mouth and started telling me things I would never have believed in my entire life. She told me how she was initiated Into witchcraft in the same school we were to start a business, by drinking a coke. She called the girls name who initiated her. That in the night she started hearing her name called, she said she would wake up, but Aunt, not physically oo. And we will fly to, she mentioned the place. That's where their coven is. There she and other new comers were given new names. At first they covered their faces so that they wont recognise others.
Subsequently there were asked to bring relics, Or point of Contacts of who they want to cast spells on before they can be fully initiated.
This little girl in my house mention her little friends that were following her to my house, eating my food as her witchcraft friends. She mentioned what others brought. They were told to bring money, hair, nails, clothes, under wears, and shoes. So she told them that we were about to start a business, they told her to bring money from the house. She told them how hard it will be because I hardly left the house. She said they dropped something in her eye to enable her look at something and the thing will disappear.
She did as she was told, but when the money got missing and I started praying, that she got scared and returned the money. I said, but I was here all the time, how did you return the money? She raised her head and looked at me, like saying "You have no idea". She told me everything.
Her sister was just close by to hear so that it won't be like a accused her sister of witchcraft.
It wasn't as easy as I have narrated it here. It was war. At a time, I became afraid for someone's child not to die in my hands. It will get to a point she was practically choking In front of me. She would grab her neck with her hands and be pulling at unseen whatever. She kept shouting 'Aunty pray, pray, am dying they are choking me, they say I shouldn't say anything.

This episode started from 7pm till 2am. Finally, she was free. I didn't even bother to go into that business again.

So John, pls stop saying because you don't believe these things, they don't exist. With my own eyes, I witness this.
Make Satan no hit you.

analice107
I think if you believe in witchcraft you will see witchcraft, if you don't believe it, you don't see it and you concentrate on understanding the natural phenomenon behind any seemingly mysterious event.

When some people watch TB Joshua, they see possessed people rolling around. I see normal unfortunate people driven into a hysterical frenzy thinking they are possessed. The human imagination is truly amazing, the sheer number of beliefs out there is a clear testament to that.

In your story you witnessed, not heard about, but actually witnessed just one potential mystical event: the disappearance and reappearance of the money. If I were in that situation I would concentrate on finding when and how the girl took the money. I would focus all my energy on getting to the bottom of that and not believe anything about it disappearing by just looking at it. I would spend hours, days on quizzing the girl if required. Because I will not readily accept any magic story.

The rest of the tale is great imagination, a distraction with no evidence whatsoever. She may have well attended an induction ceremony, did that make her become an actual witch? She could have dreamt up attending this ceremony or that she was flying, but does that mean she actually flew anywhere? She could be 'choked', just like how on TB Joshua people are 'possesed'. The girl may even believe what she is saying because she has heard/thinks that is what witches do after being inducted, and you just believe what the girl is saying because you believe in witchery, but just like my TB Joshua case, none of that makes it so. As far as I can tell you didn't even bother digging deeper to how that money disappeared because you were already convinced in your mind by the witchcraft story. Basically, back to my first point if you believe in witchcraft you will see witchcraft.

See, we may not agree about all of this because we just see these things differently based on our perspectives. But I am yet to experience a single case of witchcraft or a convincing supernatural occurrence, and stories like this do very little to help. People always fly, turn into snakes etc etc, but they are always second hand accounts. Nobody ever sees first hand the flying or the transformation. Maybe my time will come to witness a convincing magical event, but I am not holding my breath. My psychology is already wired to reject this notion first, and find concrete physical evidence before accepting anything magical.

I would say as a society we need to be far less ready to accept these kind of tales and readily label people as witches based on random accusations or second hand accounts.

[b] I was scrolling through the front page a while ago and dabbled into this thread
https://www.nairaland.com/2938436/heartbreaking-photo-captures-young-nigerian#42982570 this brought in a flash my own experience i wrote down in this thread.

It is mind boggling that we live in a society that has been mercilessly murdered by superstition and the so called civilized people behaving nothing than Mindless savages.

There have been a time primitive superstition rocked the very fabrics of European world, right in the Medieval periods when the church ruled europe, it is remembered in history as the Dark ages.

Witch hunting, burning suspects and terming diseases to be works of demons and devils.

We know how developed the European societies are now and how such superstitions has been scrapped from their society, but we africans still want to hold on to this mindless imbecility.

Lynching old men, women, children in the name of witches and wizards... when will africa evolve and look past these nonsensical superstitions that are relics of their own fear and unsound minds …

Just imagine the innocent child condemned to a cruel fate at a very tender age by the people who would go to several places of worship to chant in their righteousness.

What i cannot swallow hard is that it took someone from afar to take pity on this innocent boy being condemned by the cruel effects of his own people's imbecility.

The people around pass this young boy 2 years old for that matter everyday without even caring to take him in but throw crumbs at him like a dog in the street.

the same people will claim the righteousness of the heavens and condemn tattoo but it took a woman in a tattoo to exhibit an act of humanity and outstanding compassion.

This is something to think about... Morality is about our action towards others and the society not a belief or religion.
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