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Could Jesus Sin? by KayCyrils(m): 11:17am On Mar 03, 2009
The scriptures are very careful to present Jesus as sinless at all times  2 Cor.5:2; 1 Pt. 2:22; 1 Jn.3:5.

The question that comes up and has been wrestled with through the centuries is if Jesus could not sin how could he be truly human? On the other side if Jesus could have sinned, how could he be truly God. This is why 1 Tim. 3:16 states, "Great is the mystery of Godliness, God was manifested in the flesh." Since Jesus did not come through the normal means of conception he had no sin nature. Yet he was fully human, feeling the emotions we do, his body got tired, he became hungry and needed sleep just like anyone else. For more Click here
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by Bastage: 11:48am On Mar 03, 2009
On the other side if Jesus could have sinned, how could he be truly God.

It seems logical that Jesus could sin if he chose to do so.
If Jesus is God and God can do anything, He can sin.

But look to the Bible and you will see examples:

When Jesus chased the money-changers from the Temple, he used violence. This is a sin. We may overlook it as we see the violence that he used as a justification - the money-changers got what they deserved. But violence against other human-beings is a sin nonetheless.

And then take a look at the god of the Old Testament. How many people did he order the Hebrews to murder? In supposedly direct contradiction of his own Commandments? Again, Christians will justify this as a means to an end, but there is no doubt that killing people (including innocent children in these instances) is a sin.

But returning to Jesus, the probability is that when the Bible says he is "Without sin", it means that he "Does not sin". Not that he "Cannot sin".
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by GoodMuyis(m): 12:40pm On Mar 03, 2009
it seens that you dont understant the article you read or you are just ignorant

ok now take the example of "Korah, Dathan and Abiram", can now said GOD ALMIGHTY Has sinned by execitung jugdement on then kinldy give ans to this pls,
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by Bastage: 1:21pm On Mar 03, 2009
It has nothing to do with being ignorant.

Ignorance is throwing logic out of the window and blindly putting your faith in contradictory scripture.

As already stated - if God can do anything and Jesus was God, then he must have had the ability to sin.
If Jesus was unable to sin, he couldn't have been God.
Pure logic that cannot be argued with.
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by Bobbyaf(m): 4:44am On Mar 04, 2009
In answer to the question Christ could have sinned. If He couldn't then what kind of example of a life of obedience would He have set for us knowing He couldn't sin, and we could. The whole purpose behind the mission of Christ was to obey His Father's will, and to prove that His Father's will could be kept by us as humans.

Satan's mission and job is to deceive us into thinking that God's will and instructions cannot be obeyed.

The question that comes up and has been wrestled with through the centuries is if Jesus could not sin how could he be truly human? On the other side if Jesus could have sinned, how could he be truly God.

Remember Christ became human. He could not have existed as God and human while He was here on earth. Most Christians stumble over this idea. Don't get me wrong. Christ gave up His divinity while being human and while being tested as the second Adam. In other words in terms of the role He played. He temporarily divested Himself of divinity until He was able to pass the test.

This is why 1 Tim. 3:16 states, "Great is the mystery of Godliness, God was manifested in the flesh." Since Jesus did not come through the normal means of conception he had no sin nature.

First and foremost His unusual conception had nothing to do with His nature. His nature became our sinful nature. He too possessed the propensity to disobey His Father. That is why it was said of Him, "15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin."

It would be a farce for Christ be tempted without the possibility of ever sinning.
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by pinkylady1(f): 2:02pm On Mar 04, 2009
Jesus is God in Human flesh and the only thing that distinguish us from Jesus is that
we can fall into sin as human being b/cos of the power of the flesh but Christ cannot fall
into sin b/cos every other power are subject to him and sin is the only thing that bring seperation between man and
God so i don't see any reason why Jesus would sin.
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by benlegacy(m): 9:25am On Mar 05, 2009
Gals this one na big answer, look before you post nice term? Don't ask things you don't know, yea i mean it,
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by Maykelly(f): 2:50pm On Mar 05, 2009
Jesus Christ was a perfect man while on earth. He Has a pure heart that thinketh not evil. He is LIGHT, but not Darkness. His HOLY and Righteous, Upright in Heart. He did NOT sin at all, rather He came to save Sinners. Jesus is God himself.
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by Bobbyaf(m): 8:09pm On Mar 06, 2009
Jesus is God in Human flesh and the only thing that distinguish us from Jesus is that
we can fall into sin as human being b/cos of the power of the flesh but Christ cannot fall
into sin b/cos every other power are subject to him and sin is the only thing that bring seperation between man and
God so i don't see any reason why Jesus would sin.

grin If only you could learn to think. The apostles through whom God's Spirit spoke, could not have made the claim that Jesus came in the flesh, if what you're asserting is true. If you had any idea of the justice of God, you'd be more inclined to ask God to enlighten your mind for better responses.

Jesus Christ divested Himself of divinity so as to truly and completely take on human flesh. His passions and feelings were no different than ours. Didn't you see my reference to Hebrews 4:15?

The fact that Jesus was even tempted makes it obvious that if He so desired He could have yielded to temptations, but at His own peril and doom. Yes, I repeat His own peril and doom. And don't believe for one minute that He was only tempted in the wilderness for 40 days and nights. He was tempted through His entire sojourn on earth. He was in all points tempted as Hebrews 4:15 says.

With submission and a consistent prayerful life Jesus gained the victory. He wasn't programmed not to fail, otherwise His life and ministry would have been a farce, and God the Father's claim of justice and truth would also have been placed under suspicion. That is what the whole plan of salvation is all about.

Part of that plan was to prove that Satan's claim that God's system of government cannot be trusted was itself a lie. But, in His wisdom God allowed Lucifer to live so as to dispel doubts about His love and justice, and the rest is history.

So when Adam and Eve fell because of Lucifer's deception, Christ in the garden explained to them about God's plan to redeem Adam's fallen race. The only way that humans could be saved was through the shedding of the blood of God's Only Son, since changing His holy precepts was out of the question, who would one day divest Himself of everything heavenly and glorious to become a human so that he could identify with us. He too had to subject Himself to what we were subjected to for thousands of years.

Thank God that Jesus maintained the connection with His Father, and became victorious. If He had failed then all that God stood for would have come to naught, and Lucifer would have been proven true, but the risk was worth it.
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by Okijajuju1(m): 8:25pm On Mar 06, 2009
If Jesus was really made man, then by all means he could sin.

But then he wasnt human at all (if what the bible has said about him is true). No human can go 40 days and 40 nights without food or water, no human can walk on water, no human can fly without any aid (ascencion).

If Jesus was human, then he must have felt pain, shown/felt emotion, fell in love, had wet-dreams, masturbated, reached puberty, hunger, sadness, depression, happiness, e.t.c then there is no way he wouldnt have sinned even once.
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by Bobbyaf(m): 8:50pm On Mar 06, 2009
If Jesus was really made man, then by all means he could sin.

But then he wasnt human at all (if what the bible has said about him is true). No human can go 40 days and 40 nights without food or water, no human can walk on water, no human can fly without any aid (ascencion).

If Jesus was human, then he must have felt pain, shown/felt emotion, fell in love, had wet-dreams, masturbated, reached puberty, hunger, sadness, depression, happiness, e.t.c then there is no way he wouldnt have sinned even once.

Not all humans, despite being humans, are bound to some of the devices mentioned by you. Secondly, not all humans are subject to the same types of temptations.

It all depends on one's early outlook on life. There are some people who became successful because of their early positioning in life. They determined from early not to allow certain trappings to distract them, and all those were only accomplished through the power of God.

Likewise Jesus being human allowed His Father to take full control from very early. He realized His mission from early. Please don't attribute bad things to all humans, in your attempt to define human nature.
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by MrCrackles(m): 8:54pm On Mar 06, 2009
Why not?

Jesus was human being and not God, so he could sin or could have sinned!
tongue
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by UNLEASHED(m): 3:00am On Mar 07, 2009
undecided
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by Ogaga4Luv(m): 10:37am On Mar 07, 2009
Why not?,i never trusth that Jewish Guy"Jesus_Christa"-hes not straigt forward,stories told about him are not true,just false n' folks! .
  Jesus is a Mother[b]F[/b]ucker Sinner angry ,they are backing him up.

Re: Could Jesus Sin? by pinkylady1(f): 12:00pm On Mar 07, 2009
@ogaga4luv

why can't u just shut ur mouth, they are things one says or does

in this life that would be hard for that person to get away from it.

that image you had there

is not the image of my sweet Jesus.
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by UNLEASHED(m): 12:14pm On Mar 07, 2009
I smell an asshole
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by sammyzacks(m): 7:06pm On Mar 09, 2009
Can a goat bark? No. cos thats not its narure. Jesus had no sin nature. he was not a decendant of Adam. He could not have been able to sin.
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by KayCyrils(m): 10:58am On Mar 11, 2009
He was both God and Man, and as such he can as man sin, but as God he may not but then one dont really know
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by Kx: 11:24am On Mar 11, 2009
Italians will say " non commento" no comment
nor be every talk person dey put mouth.
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by Buthupogon(m): 3:44pm On Mar 11, 2009
To be conscious that u are ignorant of a fact is a great step to success.
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by Ogaga4Luv(m): 12:22am On Mar 14, 2009
angry embarassed embarassed sad embarassed
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by 0thello: 7:51pm On Mar 14, 2009
Well all though I can only take the bible qith a grain of salt Jesus was "documented2 to have felt anger towards people (physically assaulting them even) wasn't Jesus the same a**hole who said if you feel anger towards someone you have murdered them in your heart?

Meh I may remember incorrectly but he also showed a great deal of contempt for his parents efforts in locating him when he was 12 years old. As far as I'm concerned Jesus is not only capable of sin but stupidity too.
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by huxley(m): 8:11pm On Mar 14, 2009
0thello:

Well all though I can only take the bible qith a grain of salt Jesus was "documented2 to have felt anger towards people (physically assaulting them even) wasn't Jesus the same a**hole who said if you feel anger towards someone you have murdered them in your heart?

Meh I may remember incorrectly but he also showed a great deal of contempt for his parents efforts in locating him when he was 12 years old. As far as I'm concerned Jesus is not only capable of sin but stupidity too.

I dealt with some of these issues in this thread . He Jesus lived today he would be consider a most reprehensible character and would be sequestered in a place for the mentally disturbed and dangerous. Just think about some of the things he is said to have said:

1) Abandoning ones family
2) Setting father against son and mother against daugther
3) Smaashing the heads of little ones against a rock
4) Enemies to be put to the sword
5) Self mutilation
6) Surrendering to ones aggressors
7) Not planning for tomorrow
etc, etc.

Do these look like the views of a sane man?
Re: Could Jesus Sin? by daniel5: 8:15pm On Mar 14, 2009
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