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Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by MrPristine: 3:12pm On Jul 04, 2015

Many years ago in Cairo I was giving a talk to graduate students and some of their professors at Al Azhar – the pre-eminent centre of Islamic studies and the oldest university in the world. In the discussion period, one of the students said something about “the worldwide mission of Islam”. He was very earnest, and in a typically English way I thought I would lighten the tone: “You seem to be talking about a restoration of the Caliphate!” I intended it as a sort of joke – a reductio ad absurdum of what he had been saying, because at that time I had never heard of anyone who entertained a scheme as visionary as reviving something that the Turks had got rid of early in the 20th century, and which in its Arab version had ceased to exist centuries before that. The young man put his hand on his breast, and said with a solemn intensity: “That is the dearest wish in the hearts of all of us!”.

NBy JOHN CASEY
Saturday 04 July 2015

This is serious food for thought.
Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by Demmzy15(m): 3:39pm On Jul 04, 2015
He (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) also said: “The khilaafah after me in my Ummah will last for thirty years. Then there will be kingship after that” (Musnad Ahmad, Tirmidhi, Saheeh al-Jaami' as-Sagheer).

Hope you can see the emphasis, Prophet Muhammad came approximately 1400years ago. According to his saying here, the Caliphate ended 1430years ago!
Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by Nobody: 4:05pm On Jul 04, 2015
Demmzy15:
He (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) also said: “The khilaafah after me in my Ummah will last for thirty years. Then there will be kingship after that” (Musnad Ahmad, Tirmidhi, Saheeh al-Jaami' as-Sagheer).

Hope you can see the emphasis, Prophet Muhammad came approximately 1400years ago. According to his saying here, the Caliphate ended 1430years ago!

Trust you to show up here and quote al taqquiya posts from unknown and unreliable sources. It is evident that islam has an evil world domination ideology and many muslims are passionate about this evil agenda and that's why so many of you are sympathetic to the cause of isis and boko haram even though you use al taqquiya to dissociate yourself from them in public. It is the same passion for this evil agenda that encourages volunteer terrorists from all over the world to join isis and other islamic terror organisations.

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Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by Demmzy15(m): 4:17pm On Jul 04, 2015
Jagoon:


[s]Trust you to show up here and quote al taqquiya posts from unknown and unreliable sources. It is evident that islam has an evil world domination ideology and many muslims are passionate about this evil agenda and that's why so many of you are sympathetic to the cause of isis and boko haram even though you use al taqquiya to dissociate yourself from them in public. It is the same passion for this evil agenda that encourages volunteer terrorists from all over the world to join isis and other islamic terror organisations.[/s]
As usual nothing reasonable, 'empty barrel makes the most sound' - This perfectly refers to you. I use this medium to launch a campaign against TAKKIYAH in which Christians practice right from the time of Paul.

[size=18pt]#ChristainsStopTakiyyahNow[/size]

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Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by Nobody: 4:26pm On Jul 04, 2015
The Prophethood will remain amongst you for as long as Allaah wills it to be. Then Allaah will raise it when He wills to raise it. Then there will be the khilaafah upon the Prophetic methodology. And it will last for as long as Allaah wills it to last. Then Allaah will raise it when He wills to raise it. Then there will be biting kingship, and it will remain for as long as Allaah wills it to remain. Then Allaah will raise it when He wills to raise it. Then there will be tyrannical (forceful) kingship and it will remain for as long as Allaah wills it to remain. Then He will raise it when He wills to raise it. Then there will be a khilaafah upon the Prophetic methodology. Then he (the Prophet) was silent. Reported by Ahmad and Abu Dawud. Silsilah as- Saheehah of Imaam al-Albani
Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by Nobody: 6:28pm On Jul 04, 2015
crusadistic:
The Prophethood will remain amongst you for as
long as Allaah wills it to be. Then Allaah will raise
it when He wills to raise it. Then there will be the
khilaafah upon the Prophetic methodology. And it
will last for as long as Allaah wills it to last. Then
Allaah will raise it when He wills to raise it. Then
there will be biting kingship, and it will remain for
as long as Allaah wills it to remain. Then Allaah
will raise it when He wills to raise it. Then there
will be tyrannical (forceful) kingship and it will
remain for as long as Allaah wills it to remain.
Then He will raise it when He wills to raise it.
Then there will be a khilaafah upon the Prophetic
methodology.
Then he (the Prophet) was silent.
Reported by Ahmad and Abu Dawud. Silsilah as-
Saheehah of Imaam al-Albani

@demmzy
Can you compare what your jihadist brother posted above to the al taqquiya you posted previously? Muslims using al taqquiya since mohamed used al taqquiya to convince some dunces that he was a prophet.

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Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by jcross19: 7:38pm On Jul 04, 2015
Demmzy15:

As usual nothing reasonable, 'empty barrel makes the most sound' - This perfectly refers to you. I use this medium to launch a campaign against TAKKIYAH in which Christians practice right from the time of Paul.

[size=18pt]#ChristainsStopTakiyyahNow[/size]
even what you posted against christians is altaqiyyah. Can you see this example muslims hide the word "islam" but committing heavy crime against humanity. Then it means that islam is violence in disguise which is equal to deception, you said there is compulsion in religion but if someone break his or her fasting inappropriately , they will be beaten. No compulsion but fail to adhere to rules you face the wrath, don't you think it contradict it each other?.

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Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by Demmzy15(m): 7:48pm On Jul 04, 2015
jcross19:
[s]even what you posted against christians is altaqiyyah. Can you see this example muslims hide the word "islam" but committing heavy crime against humanity. Then it means that islam is violence in disguise which is equal to deception, you said there is compulsion in religion but if someone break his or her fasting inappropriately , they will be beaten. No compulsion but fail to adhere to rules you face the wrath, don't you think it contradict it each other?.[/s]
[size=18pt]#ChristiansStopTakkiyahNow[/size]
Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by Anas09: 9:11pm On Jul 04, 2015
These sect don't really bother me. I can't find them in any Biblical prophecy where its stated that they will amount to anything. The only place I see something close to what they r and are doing is in Isaiah 8:1. Associated youselves oh ye nations, and be broken to pieces...
When Satan is on rampage, God allows him to show some working so that when he falls, the fall will be Monumental.
Islam is not in God's agenda, except that it will help to cause people to fall away, to their peril.

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Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by adepiero: 10:37pm On Jul 04, 2015
undecided @jagoon

Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by Nobody: 8:41am On Jul 05, 2015
adepiero:
undecided @jagoon

Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by Nobody: 11:31am On Jul 05, 2015
Anas09:
These sect don't really bother me. I can't find them in any Biblical prophecy where its stated that they will amount to anything. The only place I see something close to what they r and are doing is in Isaiah 8:1. Associated youselves oh ye nations, and be broken to pieces...
When Satan is on rampage, God allows him to show some working so that when he falls, the fall will be Monumental.
Islam is not in God's agenda, except that it will help to cause people to fall away, to their peril.
what is this one saying
Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by Nobody: 12:11pm On Jul 06, 2015
crusadistic:
what is this one saying

He is saying that though islam is the religion of satan and it's evil, it has no relevance to God's plan for mankind.

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Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by Weah96: 2:02pm On Jul 06, 2015
Jagoon:


He is saying that though islam is the religion of satan and it's evil, it has no relevance to God's plan for mankind.

So Allah is Satan? Isn't it coincidental that the sky daddy in your own acquired belief system happens to be the Almighty, while the sky daddy in the Islamic belief system is the devil?

I'm pretty sure that Muslims consider the apostle Paul to be the devil himself or at least a close relative.

When you guys come to your senses, let me know.

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Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by Nobody: 3:11pm On Jul 06, 2015
Weah96:


So Allah is Satan? Isn't it coincidental that the sky daddy in your own acquired belief system happens to be the Almighty, while the sky daddy in the Islamic belief system is the devil?

I'm pretty sure that Muslims consider the apostle Paul to be the devil himself or at least a close relative.

When you guys come to your senses, let me know.

Stop being daft the antecedents of mohamed and his evil ways prove he is an agent of satan as opposed to Jesus who went around doing good and preaching love.

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Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by Weah96: 3:36pm On Jul 07, 2015
Jagoon:


Stop being daft the antecedents of mohamed and his evil ways prove he is an agent of satan as opposed to Jesus who went around doing good and preaching love.

What evil did Mohammed do? Fighting tribal wars?
Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by MrPristine: 3:26pm On Jan 21, 2016
Weah96:


What evil did Mohammed do? Fighting tribal wars?

Mohammed's wars were not tribal but 'religious' wars(jihad).
Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by analice107: 6:53pm On Jan 21, 2016
Demmzy15:

As usual nothing reasonable, 'empty barrel makes the most sound' - This perfectly refers to you. I use this medium to launch a campaign against TAKKIYAH in which Christians practice right from the time of Paul.

[size=18pt]#ChristainsStopTakiyyahNow[/size]
Little man, I was hoping you will pronounce Tiggya in a Christian parlance or in Hebrew or Aramiac instead of Arabic.
Now, RECIEVE SENSE.
Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by analice107: 7:00pm On Jan 21, 2016
Weah96:


What evil did Mohammed do? Fighting tribal wars?
Still following the pattern where Atheists, Satanists muslims are on the same side throwing stones at Christians and Jews. There must be something about Yahweh.
@WEAH, you see yourself? Muhammed beheaded 900 hundred Jews in one day, that is not evil enough?
Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by Weah96: 11:07am On Jan 23, 2016
analice107:

Still following the pattern where Atheists, Satanists muslims are on the same side throwing stones at Christians and Jews. There must be something about Yahweh.
@WEAH, you see yourself? Muhammed beheaded 900 hundred Jews in one day, that is not evil enough?

Not really. What did they do? Jews are notorious for taking things that don't belong to them. Just ask the United Nations.
Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by Nobody: 12:12pm On Jan 23, 2016
I would love to see a right and just Kilaafah , with implementation of the sharia. The abolition of usery , pornography, etc.
Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by PastorAIO: 3:54pm On Jan 23, 2016
Re: Isis Are Barbarians – But The Caliphate Is A Dream At The Heart Of All Muslims by Weah96: 7:41pm On Jan 23, 2016
MrPristine:


Mohammed's wars were not tribal but 'religious' wars(jihad).

Back then, they were one and the same. Every tribe had its own God, and of course, surviving members of vanquished tribes were made to adopt the Gods of the victors. Don't believe me? Fine. Read the Old Testament. Mohammed was winning wars, so were the Jews. Both camps were depicted in the books as merciless and savage in their war campaigns. What is really paining you? That Mohammed raped girls? So what? That's nothing compared to what Jesus ordered in the OT.

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