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Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by MadCow1: 8:37am On Jul 14, 2015
justwise:


They announced the trial couple of months ago using Eurotunnel and ferry ports, that it will be rolled out to other exit points if successful.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11404131/New-passport-checks-could-bring-new-queues-at-the-border.html

Thanks for the link..

I have read it extensively and it seems it was introduced barely 2 months ago and was for the Euro tunnel users and some water ports but I see nothing saying the Airports have been touched yet although the article suggests that it would be introduced after a while.

So as of now, status quo remains.
Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by omonnakoda: 8:45am On Jul 14, 2015
justwise:


They announced the trial couple of months ago using Eurotunnel and ferry ports, that it will be rolled out to other exit points if successful.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11404131/New-passport-checks-could-bring-new-queues-at-the-border.html
This has nothing to do with STAMPS.

Stamps are an outdated and unnecessary technology. All that is required is that passports are run through machines, verified by the machine and that the machine keeps a record.

THERE ARE NO EXIT STAMPS

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Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by justwise(m): 8:57am On Jul 14, 2015
justwise:


They announced the trial couple of months ago using Eurotunnel and ferry ports, that it will be rolled out to other exit points if successful.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11404131/New-passport-checks-could-bring-new-queues-at-the-border.html

MadCow1:

Thanks for the link..
I have read it extensively and it seems it was introduced barely 2 months ago and was for the Euro tunnel users and some water ports but I see nothing saying the Airports have been touched yet although the article suggests that it would be introduced after a while.
So as of now, status quo remains.

That is exactly what i just said.

I don't know how successful the trial was and how they plan to use it on healthrow for example
Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by justwise(m): 8:59am On Jul 14, 2015
omonnakoda:
This has nothing to do with STAMPS.

Stamps are an outdated and unnecessary technology. All that is required is that passports are run through machines, verified by the machine and that the machine keeps a record.

THERE ARE NO EXIT STAMPS

Why are you shouting? They don't need stamp to know when you left the UK because they get that from the airline anyway.
Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by erico2k2(m): 2:32pm On Jul 14, 2015
MadCow1:


As much as I have not been to Europe in recent past, I still can't find any information to support your claim online either.

It's common knowledge that they don't have outbound/exit control.

Provide me with proof if you have one.
I just traveled not to long and they do not stamp you out, they only stamp you in end of

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Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by anonymousone: 6:00pm On Jul 18, 2015
jcgodfrey:


Ok, giving u the benefit of doubt, as I usually do,
Personally, for aesthetic reasons, I keep my airline boarding passes. Probably cus I haven't traveled enough and still excited about them.
But anyways, in your case, if you are squeaky clean as u have said, then this is a no-brainer.
The airline will fish out your record and you can sue! I know I will sue! God, I will sue! I don't care about any country messing me up if I didn't mess up, cus I'm gonna mess them up too.
I will file a case in the office of the public offender and it will be on record, except they agree to a pay-off and reinstatement of my rights and damages, otherwise, I will sue, whether I win or lose, and it will be documented.
But u love the U.K too much, so, just take it easy, ok. You'll be just fine.
Thanks Guys for the advice.....really appreciate them.....would pick up on some of them and see what comes out of it.....my lawyer is already handling the process...I'll keep you guys informed as time passes by.
And for those who still doubt my trip... I've got airline to show for it. So there are no fears...I'll keep you guys updated on development
Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by anonymousone: 8:46pm On Aug 19, 2015
anonymousone:

Thanks Guys for the advice.....really appreciate them.....would pick up on some of them and see what comes out of it.....my lawyer is already handling the process...I'll keep you guys informed as time passes by.
And for those who still doubt my trip... I've got airline to show for it. So there are no fears...I'll keep you guys updated on development
erico2k2:

I just traveled not to long and they do not stamp you out, they only stamp you in end of
justwise:

Why are you shouting? They don't need stamp to know when you left the UK because they get that from the airline anyway.
erico2k2:

I just traveled not to long and they do not stamp you out, they only stamp you in end of
omonnakoda:
Really tell us more please.
tpiadotcom:

the op sef could be white or working at immigration even if not.
oyiduman01:
Uk can't refuse n seized a passport without a reason...infact, they know nija more than any western country..so, get a lawyer n stay away from any invitation.
ManTiger:
Seize my kpali for Wetin? Na dia money I use collect am?
At OP, lemme teach you something.
Get some jobless youth, you might need a politician in your ward to get those boys, buy placard for them with many inscriptions and storm their High Commission.
Bring Back Our Passport go do. cheesy
oyiduman01:
Uk can't refuse n seized a passport without a reason...infact, they know nija more than any western country..so, get a lawyer n stay away from any invitation.
leonshom:

Not just last year, Uk embassy av bin doing such long ago, i witnessed same case in 2011 at Abuja, following d seizure of a frequent traveller's passport as she claimed. But, one thing i know a out the white is that, if there's no good reason, they wouldn't av seized it, d worst is to refuse u d visa.
babseg:
TO EVERYONE IN THE HOUSE

DO THEY HAVE THE RIGHT SO SEIZE OTHER COUNTRY'S TRAVEL DOCUMENT(PASSPORT)?

So guys. . I had promised I'll give keep you guys updated on events....It's taken a while though..but I'll go on to breifly explain how it all went.
I retrieved all documents to show what I had come to do in nigeria in the said period, I also got my itinerary from the airline I had traveled with which was printed from their data base.
I contacted a lawyer as suggested by some of you all who happened to be a close friend too. .. and wrote the embassy. Requesting for review of the decision on the basis of overwhelming evidence against the allegation...they pretty much threw it back at our face with the most important quote "This office no longer accepts direct requests for reviews of applications." Follow the link..blah blah blah.....for request
On the side though...I had gone to the immigrations office...where I tabled my situation...I was lucky to have someone take it up.....my travel history was printed out from their data base and a letter written to that effect with all the supporting documents which they acknowledged. Few days later.....passport was returned with visa issued as requested.


So I say thanks to all that advised and all that doubted as well.....thank for your support

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Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by mrkhaynoni: 7:15pm On Sep 28, 2015
oyiduman01:
I,m a new member here...pls ask me any hard question on canada or uk visit visa...n also open to new idear too.


I have a very important question for u bro. May i PM U?
Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by jimmyboy12: 10:25pm On Feb 06, 2016
Good evening House,
I resides in the UK, In November 2014, my wife applied for a settlement visa to come and join me in the UK at the time of the application, I was very convinced that we met all the immigration requirement because I took my time to make sure all the neccessary supporting evidences were enclosed as we have had 3 applications refused previously in 2011 (visitor visa), 2012 (Settlement visa) and 2013 (Visitor visa) for my graduation, this was just some month after our wedding which took in Nigeria. I know people will be wondering why we applied for a visitor visa but the reason was because I just graduated and was not earning up to £18600 (Minimum Income threshold). But I was surprised and when the application was refused and my wife 2 international passport was retained, One is cancelled and a valid one. It is worth noting that prior to the application in 2011, she had already applied for a UK visa which was refused but that has no connection with me at all and as you are all aware in the UK visa application form they do ask for the where about of old passport but she said to me that the passport is lost, so in all the other applications that were made from the aforementioned year (2011) we let the British high commission know that the passport is lost.

What's more, the reasons for refusal are as follow;

(1)RETENTION OF NIGERIAN PASSPORT NO A05******/A02*****

The passport that you were intending to travel with, as detailed above, has been retained as we are not satisfied that the document satisfactorily establishes your identity and nationality, in view of the fact that you have previously applied for a UK visa using a different date of birth. Enquiries will be undertaken at this office and the document will be forwarded as soon as practically possible to the Nigerian Immigration Service in Abuja. The Nigerian Immigration Service will decide whether further action is required. In these cases, enquiries should be addressed to the address below:


Comptroller General, NIS
Document Fraud Unit
Nigerian Immigration Service HQ
ABUJA

Yours sincerely

Entry Clearance Manager
UK Visas and Immigration

(2) "The applicant did not provide a letter from her sponsor's employer with her application which confirms the sponsor's employment status and salary. With this application a letter dated 24 September 2014 has been submitted. This carries the letter head of XYZABC123 (my employer) but appears to be a photocopy. The letter carries the writer's name "Miss xxxxx Bleep" But has no signature. Consequently no employment letter is considered to have been provided. The applicant has therefore not provided the document required by Appendix FM-SE paragraph 2 (b).

Facts

The first reason for refusal was not true because my wife said she never use any other date of birth except real date of birth. And this fact was confirmed when will appeal and during review Entry Clearance Manager withdrew the first refusal but the problem now is that, The British high commission said to us that they have send my wife passport to the Nigeria immigration service in Abuja but she lives in Lagos that will should contact them.
The advice i'm seeking now is that since they have admitted that the mistake was from their, are they not suppose to be the one to retrieve my wife passport from the Nigeria Immigration service since they send it to them.

Please I need urgent advice and God bless

Best Regards,

Jimmy12
Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by TatPat: 8:13am On Jul 19, 2016
Please everyone, I need your help, I wrote the IELTS test last year and my wife and I later decided not to relocate to the uk, now I want to apply for a standard visit visa and I do not know if I should mention it in my application that I wrote the spouse settlement English test IELTS last year but my wife decided not to relocate back to the uk, because she got a better job offer here as an expertrate, therefore I didn't have any need for the IELTS test result, or should I just skip this part on my application ? I don't want them thinking I'm running because I'm clearly not.
Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by FaustinaChichi: 10:26pm On Jul 28, 2016
@anonymous
anonymousone:

So guys. . I had promised I'll give keep you guys updated on events....It's taken a while though..but I'll go on to breifly explain how it all went.
I retrieved all documents to show what I had come to do in nigeria in the said period, I also got my itinerary from the airline I had traveled with which was printed from their data base.
I contacted a lawyer as suggested by some of you all who happened to be a close friend too. .. and wrote the embassy. Requesting for review of the decision on the basis of overwhelming evidence against the allegation...they pretty much threw it back at our face with the most important quote "This office no longer accepts direct requests for reviews of applications." Follow the link..blah blah blah.....for request
On the side though...I had gone to the immigrations office...where I tabled my situation...I was lucky to have someone take it up.....my travel history was printed out from their data base and a letter written to that effect with all the supporting documents which they acknowledged. Few days later.....passport was returned with visa issued as requested.
So I say thanks to all that advised and all that doubted as well.....thank for your support
anonymousone:

So guys. . I had promised I'll give keep you guys updated on events....It's taken a while though..but I'll go on to breifly explain how it all went.
I retrieved all documents to show what I had come to do in nigeria in the said period, I also got my itinerary from the airline I had traveled with which was printed from their data base.
I contacted a lawyer as suggested by some of you all who happened to be a close friend too. .. and wrote the embassy. Requesting for review of the decision on the basis of overwhelming evidence against the allegation...they pretty much threw it back at our face with the most important quote "This office no longer accepts direct requests for reviews of applications." Follow the link..blah blah blah.....for request
On the side though...I had gone to the immigrations office...where I tabled my situation...I was lucky to have someone take it up.....my travel history was printed out from their data base and a letter written to that effect with all the supporting documents which they acknowledged. Few days later.....passport was returned with visa issued as requested.
So I say thanks to all that advised and all that doubted as well.....thank for your su[quote author=anonymousone post=37132228]
So guys. . I had promised I'll give keep you guys updated on events....It's taken a while though..but I'll go on to breifly explain how it all went.
I retrieved all documents to show what I had come to do in nigeria in the said period, I also got my itinerary from the airline I had traveled with which was printed from their data base.
I contacted a lawyer as suggested by some of you all who happened to be a close friend too. .. and wrote the embassy. Requesting for review of the decision on the basis of overwhelming evidence against the allegation...they pretty much threw it back at our face with the most important quote "This office no longer accepts direct requests for reviews of applications." Follow the link..blah blah blah.....for request
On the side though...I had gone to the immigrations office...where I tabled my situation...I was lucky to have someone take it up.....my travel history was printed out from their data base and a letter written to that effect with all the supporting documents which they acknowledged. Few days later.....passport was returned with visa issued as requested.
So I say thanks to all that advised and all that doubted as well.....thank for your support

Please I am having the same issue and it is annoying, especially when u have the facts and they are telling u u lied because they don't want to give u visa....how I wish my family resides in Nigeria, I swear, I will not stress myself with these people at all...Nigeria is not that terrible...I feel like just throwing away the silly refusal letter but my dad, mum and brother are so bothered. .. angry sad angry....please tell me how u sorted it because I dont know where these crazy people want me to get my travel history from 4yrs ago...
Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by ladylco: 12:59pm On Sep 22, 2016
jimmyboy12:
Good evening House,
I resides in the UK, In November 2014, my wife applied for a settlement visa to come and join me in the UK at the time of the application, I was very convinced that we met all the immigration requirement because I took my time to make sure all the neccessary supporting evidences were enclosed as we have had 3 applications refused previously in 2011 (visitor visa), 2012 (Settlement visa) and 2013 (Visitor visa) for my graduation, this was just some month after our wedding which took in Nigeria. I know people will be wondering why we applied for a visitor visa but the reason was because I just graduated and was not earning up to £18600 (Minimum Income threshold). But I was surprised and when the application was refused and my wife 2 international passport was retained, One is cancelled and a valid one. It is worth noting that prior to the application in 2011, she had already applied for a UK visa which was refused but that has no connection with me at all and as you are all aware in the UK visa application form they do ask for the where about of old passport but she said to me that the passport is lost, so in all the other applications that were made from the aforementioned year (2011) we let the British high commission know that the passport is lost.

What's more, the reasons for refusal are as follow;

(1)RETENTION OF NIGERIAN PASSPORT NO A05******/A02*****

The passport that you were intending to travel with, as detailed above, has been retained as we are not satisfied that the document satisfactorily establishes your identity and nationality, in view of the fact that you have previously applied for a UK visa using a different date of birth. Enquiries will be undertaken at this office and the document will be forwarded as soon as practically possible to the Nigerian Immigration Service in Abuja. The Nigerian Immigration Service will decide whether further action is required. In these cases, enquiries should be addressed to the address below:


Comptroller General, NIS
Document Fraud Unit
Nigerian Immigration Service HQ
ABUJA

Yours sincerely

Entry Clearance Manager
UK Visas and Immigration

(2) "The applicant did not provide a letter from her sponsor's employer with her application which confirms the sponsor's employment status and salary. With this application a letter dated 24 September 2014 has been submitted. This carries the letter head of XYZABC123 (my employer) but appears to be a photocopy. The letter carries the writer's name "Miss xxxxx Bleep" But has no signature. Consequently no employment letter is considered to have been provided. The applicant has therefore not provided the document required by Appendix FM-SE paragraph 2 (b).

FactsThe first reason for refusal was not true because my wife said she never use any other date of birth except real date of birth. And this fact was

confirmed when will appeal and during review Entry Clearance Manager withdrew the first refusal but the problem now is that, The British high commission said to us that they have send my wife passport to the Nigeria immigration service in Abuja but she lives in Lagos that will should contact them.
The advice i'm seeking now is that since they have admitted that the mistake was from their, are they not suppose to be the one to retrieve my wife passport from the Nigeria Immigration service since they send it to them.

Please I need urgent advice and God bless

Best Regards,

Jimmy12


Please were you able to retrieve your wife's passport? how did you go about it.


Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by tayo52: 9:34am On Nov 09, 2016
oyiduman01:
I,m a new member here...pls ask me any hard question on canada or uk visit visa...n also open to new idear too.
presently working as a private driver,university drop out,my elder sister husband his doing his masters in Canada a lawyer,they gave him 2 years extension,he now want to do document for my sister,spousal working permit,she will be going with her 2kids,she advice me to follow them so I can take care of her kids wen she is working,but the issue there is that,the husband did not no how to attach my own document with it,cos his on sponsorship course,and t bank statement he use has 25m in it,what advice can u give on how he can attach me with them
Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by Realgeo(m): 9:26pm On Dec 12, 2016
MadCow1:


Most European, AMERICAN and Canadian Airports have no immigration stand at the departure terminals..

Reason being they are more interested in stopping people entering illegally than leaving.

So NO, you don't get an exit stamp when leaving the UK by Air or even rail.. (Atleast I am sure of those 2). Same for the United States and Canada as well. Infact most European Nation's too.

So the only stamps you get on your passport are the entry stamp into the European or American or Canadian Airport and the exit stamp you get is the arrival stamp at the destination country (in this case Nigeria).

So what people do is that when they arrive Nigeria, they will pally with the immigrations guys and they will walk them through the check in counter and just hand them their passports unstamped or stamped with a pre-season date depending on the type of scam you are running. It does not hurt Nigeria per se as you can't be deported from your home nation, but it affects the Country you are scamming.

It's an old trick but I researched it and found out that the scam is very weak and when it shows, it ends up not being worth it as you lose your Visa, get banned and sometimes deported and your opportunity of ever entering that country again diminishes greatly. Sometimes in the case of the EU, you may never enter Europe again.

I don't know how people assume that such moves do work. For crying out loud, there is this thing called boarding pass. Passport are needed for one to get boarding pass. So how can u back date your arrival when the exact departure date has already been stored on the system with your passport info? Even without departure stamp.... Na waa.ooh.

Op I don't know about other countries but Spain, Germany and France do stamp departure on Passport. First hand info
Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by coba43: 9:39pm On Aug 16, 2018
The truth is, no country is perfect. I have a friend who visited the UK for less than a month and departed more six months later he started getting emails from the UK authorities advising him to leave the UK for "overstaying" even though he returned to Nigeria only after less than a month.

Again I had a case with the US embassy. I was barred for life and accused of human smuggling. In December 2014 I travelled to the US with my family and we departed the US in January 2015. I travelled again in 2016 and renewed my visa but in 2018, I will accused of not returning with my child in 2014 even though we all returned in January 2015. I fought the wrong finding with evidence of the 2015 departure and the bar was revoked. So, its clear these guys also make mistakes. They are humans after all.
ZUBY77:



There is no need advising him here. He didn't come to Nigeria at all.
I did something like this back in Europe.
Portuguese resident permit and I obtained Slovakia visa in Berlin germany.
When I returned to Nigeria, I went to Slovakia embassy in Abuja, thinking that since I have their visa, it would be easy to obtain a new one but no...

So the op is not telling us something here. Trust me.



Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by coba43: 9:53pm On Aug 16, 2018
The truth is, no country is perfect. I have a friend who visited the UK for less than a month and departed more six months later he started getting emails from the UK authorities advising him to leave the UK for "overstaying" even though he returned to Nigeria only after less than a month.

Again I had a case with the US embassy. I was barred for life and accused of human smuggling. In December 2014 I travelled to the US with my family and we departed the US in January 2015. I travelled again in 2016 and renewed my visa but in 2018, I will accused of not returning with my child in 2014 even though we all returned in January 2015. I fought the wrong finding with evidence of the 2015 departure and the bar was revoked. So, its clear these guys also make mistakes. They are humans after all.

aril:


Hmmm... seriously!

To think that the consular did not look through your passport to see a re-entery stamp into UK is one thing but for sure the consular must had seen a foul play on your passport that's why such decision was made.

If you google well you will see other folks who are in the same situation like yourself. Almost all of them admit to using cunning way to say they departed Uk and they re-entered back. Where you have been going for years is funny how you can just got banned without no cogent facts.

Smthing is not right!

Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by Deehit1: 7:32am On Nov 11, 2018
can i travel with a new passport to usa if my old passport was impounded by uk embassy
Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by Lexusgs430: 3:00pm On Nov 11, 2018
Deehit1:
can i travel with a new passport to usa if my old passport was impounded by uk embassy

Why was your passport impounded? Have you applied for the US visa ? Did you mention your encounter with the UK visa section?
Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by optimusprime2(m): 8:02pm On Nov 11, 2018
anonymousone:


So guys. . I had promised I'll give keep you guys updated on events....It's taken a while though..but I'll go on to breifly explain how it all went.
I retrieved all documents to show what I had come to do in nigeria in the said period, I also got my itinerary from the airline I had traveled with which was printed from their data base.
I contacted a lawyer as suggested by some of you all who happened to be a close friend too. .. and wrote the embassy. Requesting for review of the decision on the basis of overwhelming evidence against the allegation...they pretty much threw it back at our face with the most important quote "This office no longer accepts direct requests for reviews of applications." Follow the link..blah blah blah.....for request
On the side though...I had gone to the immigrations office...where I tabled my situation...I was lucky to have someone take it up.....my travel history was printed out from their data base and a letter written to that effect with all the supporting documents which they acknowledged. Few days later.....passport was returned with visa issued as requested.


So I say thanks to all that advised and all that doubted as well.....thank for your support

I wish you could sue those Bloody farts for 30Billion...
Tchai!
It's unfortunate these peeps have immunity
Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by favouritedami: 4:57pm On Jun 25, 2022
Hi guys, who has had similar experience and was able to retrieve his passport? Can you share your experience?
Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by favouritedami: 11:40pm On Jun 25, 2022
anonymousone:

Thanks Guys for the advice.....really appreciate them.....would pick up on some of them and see what comes out of it.....my lawyer is already handling the process...I'll keep you guys informed as time passes by.
And for those who still doubt my trip... I've got airline to show for it. So there are no fears...I'll keep you guys updated on development

Please can you give me the contact of your lawyer?
Re: REFUSAL Of Visa And Seizure Of Passport By UK Embassy by Jnrbaino4real(m): 3:52pm On Jun 27, 2022
I think i have something to say here. Most of the time, i always watch and read posts only. Getting those documents like previous travel tickets, calling or contacting NIS(Nigeria Immigration Service), getting Police Clearance etc, cannot solve the issue. I am sure these person has been banned already, i mean, he must have been banned together with the passport seizure by the British Embassy. These events has been unfolding for a while now, not very long, i think the UK embassy started these crazy steps late last year. Such happened to someone too. She and her husband are frequent travellers to the UK, and already had two years on their passport. I applied for their renewal but seperately. We applied first for the wife, then later the husband's. Unfortunately there was a delay of more than a month before the consular took a decision and withheld her old passport which contains the UK visas. Then they released the new passport she attached to it. She was also banned for ten years, with an option to appeal. Several applicants were also banned even elderly people and very rich people. We met them @ the VFS at Ikeja complaining about their passport seizure and ban. One VFS officer told us its a new crazy trend by the UK embassy. so i was really sad and started making deep enquiries. It was later that she told me the truth that actually she applied to spend 3 weeks in London, but everytime she spends more than that, she used to tip the Immigration officers @ the airport with some dollar so as to back stamp the date for her! I immediately cancel her husband's appointment & applied for his refund. So if you are among those people that do back stamp @ d airport, well you are most likely to face such dilema. just forget your passport!
Just imagine. Wonderful. They feel or think that UK is a nonsense country

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