Dgreatrock:


Considering what people go through, do or experience just to have money

I sort of wonder such thing was really created by God.

One is never satisfied with it, if you have a $1,000 today

you find yourself seeking for $2,000 in the next instance.

I dont know how it is with you and what your views might be,

but I cant stop wondering if God created it.

John 1:1-3:


John 1:1-3

Amplified Bible (AMP)

¹IN THE beginning [before all time] was the Word (Christ),
and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself.

²He was present originally with God.

³All things were made and came into existence through Him;
and without Him was not even one thing made that has come into being.

King James Version (KJV)

¹In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

²The same was in the beginning with God.

³All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

New International Version - UK (NIVUK)

¹In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

²He was with God in the beginning.

³Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

Kola Oloye:


In the beginning there was nothing like money even trading was by barter.

Who created Value

Bastage:


Value is the keyword. Money is merely a medium.

Here is a link that explains how it only exists in your mind.


http://www.uhuh.com/unreal/moncur.htm

banklords create money by making an entry in a ledger

I really hope this thread doesn't get taken out of the religion section (like the critical thinking thread) because I think that it is very pertinent to religion.

Money is created. However what I don't agree with is that banklords create money. Money represents value. Banklords do not create Value, However if he had no such desire for the water then the bank can fill in ledgers till it's blue in the face but without anybody willing to come and take out a loan it cannot create any value/money.

Bastage:

To make sure it doesn't, I'll post the old saying:

"Money is the root of all evil".

Although I don't believe it is the root of all evil, I do believe it is indirectly responsible for a large amount.

For[b] the love of money [/b]is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, in their eagerness to get rich, have wandered away from the faith and caused themselves a lot of pain.

But you, man of God, must flee from all these things. Instead, you must pursue righteousness, godliness, faithfulness, love, endurance, and gentleness.

This topic isn't as pragmatic as most seem to want to make it.

Bastage:

No? You claim that man made money but if you're a Christian, you would also claim that God made man.
Is God not therefore responsible for indirectly creating money?

dgreatrock:
considering what people go through, do or experience just to have money i sort of wonder such thing was really created by God.
One is never satisfied with it, if you have a $1,000, today you find yourself seeking for $2,000 in the next instance. i dont know how it is with you and what your views might be, but i cant stop wondering if God created it.

Bastage:


No? You claim that man made money but if you're a Christian, you would also claim that God made man.
Is God not therefore responsible for indirectly creating money?

brocab:
No he didn't create the money, if God created Money, he wouldn't say you cant worship mammon and God at the same time, He also said give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and give to God what belongs to God. If God created Money, he would receive it with gladness, but He didn't He told Judas, to give the 30 pieces of sliver to the Poor, He also said it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, then for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Peter said to the poor man sitting at the gates, silver and Gold I do not have, but what I can give you, in the name of Jesus get up and walk, even by this alone, the bible is teaching us Jesus wanted us to be rich in the Word Of God, not in the Money riches of this world, it takes a lot of cash money to operate on somebody who can't walk, all Peter said in the name of Jesus get up and walk. And the man walked in the matter of seconds. Try and see if your doctor can do miracles such as these without money.
Jesus say's in {Timothy 6:3} Men of corrupted minds destitute of the truth who suppose that Godliness is the means of gain. From such with draw yourselves.
Jesus also says Money can be used for all kinds of evil. If money was our source of bread, Jesus would have taken up the deal with Satan and built His mansions on earth like every other prosperity preacher who had sold their souls to Satan.
Don't forget Satan offered Jesus the world only if Jesus bowed down to him, Jesus said Satan get behind Me, you shall worship your God and Him only you shall serve.
The problem is in most Churches people are given their money away to the wrong God, and Churches are preaching the wrong messages, tithing 10% and asking God in return asking back either 30, some 60, some 100 fold money back guarantee.
Tithers believe God made everything, and He did, but the problem is Satan's kingdom is side by side twisting and turning the word of God around so God's people believe money is their only source to survive, don't forget credit cards are used more and more, and who's idea is the mark of the beast 666? The money system from Caesar's coin all working together gathering up the Lord's people to burn in hell with Satan and His falling angels.
I am a Christian and with my own experience, not told by God Himself, I was informed by the Church that tithing was scripture'd and we are all here to tithe, through this lie I believed like everyone else believe tithing is a money back guarantee. I watched people selling their homes and lands, because the pastors from all denominations would delivery send them the wrong messages from Satan himself, that put everyone in a det situation, paying of their homes lands cars they never really owned. But the banks were making the %.
{Matthew 17:24-25} After Jesus and His disciples arrived in Capernaum, those who received the temple tax came to Peter and said does your teacher not pay taxes. He said yes? Taxes were paid differently in each country.
And when he had come into the house Jesus anticipated him, saying what do you think Simon? From whom do you think the kings of the Earth take Customs {Tithes} or Taxes, from their sons or from strangers? Peter said to Him from strangers, Jesus then said to him then the Sons are free. So we see without Jesus having an argument Jesus sent Peter down to catch the first fish to pay the temple tax. Jesus wasn't Happy. Look what Jesus done to the money changers, in the temple.
If money was made and created from God, Jesus wouldn't had said then the sons are free. Are we not Sons of God? Are we free or are we in bondage?
Jesus kept on about people with money, He said we can't worship both mammon and God.
The money belongs to Satan, Satan does the opposite to God's will, God made the tree's the herbs and the seeds, because it was good-He made the Garden of Eden freely so we could eat from it.
Satan's falling angels helped men to make money, banks and Credit unions, loaners, and other saucers to make a percentage, {Does this sound like the money system God made?} Millions of people everyday are starting to be a wear of the higher % each week, banks are building more banks and all raising the stakes, everything such as food, clothing, etc, is raising at a much higher rate everyday, while our wages are on the low, the rich become richer and the poor becomes poorer, soon no-one will afford to live. People are already living on the streets begging for their own survival. While Satan uses the rich to build above, and he also uses the poor to build below. The world is becoming like in the days of Noah.
Think about it....