chiedu7:
GOD & ALLAH ARE NOT THE SAME.

GOD CANNOT LIE

Titus 1:2
In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;


ALLAH IS THE GREATEST LAIR

Surah 3:54
But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers


GOD SAID THAT ALLAH IS THE FATHER OF LIES

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

GOD ALSO SAID THAT SATAN DECEIVES THE WORLD

Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:


1] NOW WITH ALLAH BEING THE BEST LIAR
2] SATAN BEING THE FATHER OF LIES.
3] SATAN DECEIVING THE WORLD

DO THE MATHS

truthman2012:
Where are the islamic apologists in the house?

As allahh declared himself not the God of the Jews and Christians, who is he?

truthman2012:
Yahweh Vs Allah: Who Is the true God?

There is no doubt that Yahweh is not Allah. Their words and laws are not the same and not worshiped the same way. They do not live in the same place.
Yahweh had been having relationship with man since creation. The Bible, Old and New Testament talk of Him. He is the true God believed by the Jews and Christians. Various prophets delivered his messages to the people. Their messages are consistent and confirmation of one another.

Allah on the other hand revealed himself in Arabia, long after Jesus had come and gone. His sole prophet was known to be Muhammad. Before Muhammad, allah was not known except as one of the 360 idols in Mecca. The Meccans believed allah is the chief god among the idols. Every family in Mecca at that time had a particular idol belonging to them. The idol of the Quarish, Muhammad’s tribe was allah the chief god of the 360 idols. So when Muhammad came to proclaim allah, nobody asked who he (allah) was because they knew him to be Muhammad’s family idol. Muhammad father’s name was Abdullai (Abduallah), meaning servant of allah. This name was given to Muhammad’s father by his grandfather, Mutaleb, a re-known idol worshiper. This shows allah was the idol they worshiped in Muhammad’s family before islam, hence the name Abdullai which means servant (slave) of allah.

There arose a war between Muhammad and other idol owners when Muhammad proclaimed allah as the only God and that all should worship him alone (Oneness of God) following his contact with an ‘angel’ Gabriel. The pagans seemed to be saying to Muhammad: “worship your allah and let us worship our own god, afterall that is what we have been doing before” but he said no. Muhammad did not enjoy the support of the Jews and Christians of that time either because his revelations are contrary to the existing Scriptures. When the going was tough for him and his fighters, allah declared himself as not the God of the Jews and Christians, Yahweh and he ordered their murder: [Quran 9:29] Fight against such of those who have been given the Scriptureas believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low. The fight was against the people who have been given the Scripture (Jews and Christians), not against the pagans who broke the treaty as some Islamic apologists are trying to make us believe.

ALLAH DECLARED HE IS NOT YAHWEH

[Quran 109:1-6] Say: O disbelievers! (The Jews and Christians he ordered for their killing, who disbelieved in allah).

I worship not that which ye worship;

Nor worship ye that which I worship.

And I shall not worship that which ye worship.

Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.

In the quranic statements above, allah declared himself as different from Yahweh the Jews and Christians worship, showing truly is the idol in Muhammad’s family who wanted to overthrow Yahweh, the God of the Jews and Christians.

Although Muhammad family’s idol (allahh) was turned to be the true god by ‘angel’ Gabriel, the new true god (one-god) is still being worshiped as they worshiped him when he was the chief god of the idols:
[Quran 2:158 Pickthal] Lo! (the mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwah are among the indications of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who is on pilgrimage to the House (of Allah) or visiteth it, to go around them(AS THE PAGAN CUSTOM IS). And he who doeth good of his own accord, (for him) lo! Allah is Responsive, Aware.

Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin
Malik: "Did you use to dislike to
perform Tawaf between Safa and
Marwa?" He said, "Yes, as it was
of the ceremonies of the days of
the Pre-lslamic period of
ignorance, till Allah revealed:
'Verily! (The two mountains) As-
Safa and Al-Marwa are among the
symbols of Allah. It is therefore no
sin for him who performs the
pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or
performs 'Umra, to perform Tawaf
between them.' " (2.158)
[Sahih Bukhari 2:26:710]

''Tawaf'' was the ceremony of the days of IGNORANCE done by pagans before the advent of islam. Why do muslims continue with it even with the KNOWLEDGE of islam?
Narrated 'Urwa: I asked my
'Aisha : ...But in fact, this divine
inspiration was revealed
concerning the Ansar who used to
assume “Ihram” for worshipping
an idol called “Manat” which they
used to worship at a place called
Al-Mushallal before they embraced
Islam, and whoever assumed
Ihram (for the idol), would
consider it not right to perform
Tawaf between Safa and Marwa.
[Sahih Bukhari 2:26:706]

''Ihram'' was the way pagans worship Manat, an idol in Mecca before Islam, Now it is part of islamic worship.

There was a change in allah’s status but no change in the worship system.

With the above narration, is it not clear who allah is?

Atigba:

No other God but amadioha

This is glaring overwhelming evidence from both the holy bible and the evil quoran that allah is indeed satan. Muslims what more evidence do you need

truthman2012:
Where are the islamic apologists in the house?

As allahh declared himself not the God of the Jews and Christians, who is he?

Lukay99:


Who is Allah?
* He is Allah, (the) One.
* Allah-us-Samad (The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all
creatures need, He neither eats nor drinks).
* He begets not, nor was He begotten;
* "And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him."

Quran112:1-4

Next QUESTION PLEASE?

ValhallaDrabek:
Loool! This same topic again? Wtf? Are these guys retar.ded? This is the same person I specifically created a thread to clarify this issue for him and he ran away, now he's back again with the same thing? Smh


وَمَثَلُ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ كَمَثَلِ الَّذِي يَنْعِقُ بِمَا لاَ يَسْمَعُ إِلاَّ دُعَاء وَنِدَاء صُمٌّ بُكْمٌ عُمْيٌ فَهُمْ لاَ يَعْقِ {1
002:171
:
And the example of those who disbelieve, is as that of him who shouts to the (flock of sheep) that hears nothing but calls and cries. (They are) deaf, dumb and blind. So they do not understand.

truthman2012:


Addicted liar!

For whom did you create a thread?

Did I know you before?

ValhallaDrabek:


Of course you don't remember. Refer to the thread, it's called "why was Muhammad's father called Abd-Allah"

truthman2012:


And allahh is worshiped like Manat and other idols.

truthman2012:
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enilove:
God is not a liar . He said it from the beginning to Abraham that the work of salvation for mankind was going to be through Isaac and not Ishmael. If not there was no reason for a father to send his son away from him . And this was a revelations of about 3, 000 years b4 Islam. Also , this has been written and compiled in a book form known today as the Bible which Muhammad and his followers read .
That is , the work of salvation through Jesus Christ had been completed 600 years b4 Muhammad came from this very leaneage of Ishmael that God rejected from the biginning with another god not known or foreign to the children of Israel and with the same mode of worship as the preI slamic Pagans.

Genesis 17:18-21 KJV
And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee! [19] And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him. [20] And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. [21] But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.

The God of the Bible says we should not divorce but the god of the Quran approves divorce.

The God of the Bible says we should not worship the stars, moon ,sun etc but the god of the Quran approves this for the Muslims.

The God of Israel is the true God that manifests by signs and wonders to show His Majesty and Power like wonder of Dividing the Sea for the escape of the Israelites from Egypt.
But the Allah , he is powerless and all he requires is for his worshippers to kill their fellow human beings . Allah is a dirty god that loves fornications , idolatry , adultery etc :

Volume 4, Book 54, Number 445:
Sahih Bukhari :
Narrated Abu Dhar:

The Prophet said, "Gabriel said to me, 'Whoever amongst your followers die without having worshipped others besides Allah, will enter Paradise (or will not enter the (Hell) Fire)." The Prophet asked. "Even if he has committed illegal sexual intercourse or theft?" He replied, "Even then."