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Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:31am On Aug 17, 2015
As per the requests of the Prime Minister of India on his visit to the United Arab Emirates, The Government of Abu Dhabi has allocated land in the emirate for Indians who make up the majority population in UAE, to construct a Temple to house their GODS for worship purpose.

When Africans are bowing in mental slavery to foreign faiths and supporting boko haram ideologies etc.. while we abandon our indigenous Traditional Faiths..Indians are setting new heights by spreading their Traditional Religion to the world.


The Gods bless the Hindus.

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Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by malvisguy212: 9:08am On Aug 17, 2015
There is a similarities between Hindu and islam.
(1) Both Hindu and Muslim male
devotees are required to shave their
heads during their pilgrimage.
(2) And similar to their Hindu
counterparts, male Muslim pilgrims are
also required to dress in a garment
consisting of two sheets of white cloth.
This type of garment is known as Dhoti in Hinduism.
(3) Just as the worshippers of Shiva
observe a rite in which they walk around their object of reverence seven times, Muslim pilgrims also walk around the Ka’ba seven times.
(4) Both their objects of reverence are
Black Stones. In Hinduism, the Black
Stone is known as Shiva lingam.
(5) While Hindus drink water from the
Ganga River as part of the sacred rites in their worship of Shiva, Muslims drink
from the Well of Zamzam during the
Hajj.
Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by Rilwayne001: 10:15am On Aug 17, 2015
[s]
malvisguy212:
There is a similarities between Hindu and islam.
(1) Both Hindu and Muslim male
devotees are required to shave their
heads during their pilgrimage.
(2) And similar to their Hindu
counterparts, male Muslim pilgrims are
also required to dress in a garment
consisting of two sheets of white cloth.
This type of garment is known as Dhoti in Hinduism.
(3) Just as the worshippers of Shiva
observe a rite in which they walk around their object of reverence seven times, Muslim pilgrims also walk around the Ka’ba seven times.
(4) Both their objects of reverence are
Black Stones. In Hinduism, the Black
Stone is known as Shiva lingam.
(5) While Hindus drink water from the
Ganga River as part of the sacred rites in their worship of Shiva, Muslims drink
from the Well of Zamzam during the
Hajj.
[/s]

I think demmzy15 refuted the above hocus-pocus on a thread like that, why are you repeating it again?

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Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by Annunaki(m): 11:00am On Aug 17, 2015
Rilwayne001:


I think demmzy15 refuted the above hocus-pocus on a thread like that, why are you repeating it again?

Because the so called refutal lacked substance and was full of al taqquiya tongue
Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by Rilwayne001: 11:20am On Aug 17, 2015
Annunaki:


Because the so called refutal lacked substance and was full of al taqquiya tongue

Jagoon a.k.a annunaki, who takes you serious before undecided

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Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by jcross19: 11:55am On Aug 17, 2015
Rilwayne001:


Jagoon a.k.a annunaki, who takes you serious before undecided
whenever you cancel someone's post mean there are substances of truth in the post.
Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by Rilwayne001: 12:04pm On Aug 17, 2015
jcross19:
whenever you cancel someone's post mean there are substances of truth in the post.

Lol. According to you right?
Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by parisbookaddict(f): 12:12pm On Aug 17, 2015
Rilwayne001:


I think demmzy15 refuted the above hocus-pocus on a thread like that, why are you repeating it again?

This is how u Muslims try to "refute" facts.

1. By Insults

2. By Al taqiyya

3. By look for moral equivalence. Eg. Fact: mohammed slept with a 9year old child; muslim then offer this refute: in Spain the age of consent is blahblahblah or some catholic priests molested children or in some US states in the 1800s the age of consent was 14. .

4. Striking out or cancelling out the text and claiming the comment has been refuted. (that's a favorite of yours and empiree.)

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Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by plaetton: 1:55pm On Aug 17, 2015
Rilwayne001:


I think demmzy15 refuted the above hocus-pocus on a thread like that, why are you repeating it again?

A lie, repeated many times, unchallenged, becomes truth.

This is how religion works.

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Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by jcross19: 2:44pm On Aug 17, 2015
Rilwayne001:


Lol. According to you right?
it prove how painful the post to you.
Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by Demmzy15(m): 5:26pm On Aug 17, 2015
parisbookaddict:


This is how u Muslims try to "refute" facts.

grin Why are you pained about it?

1. By Insults

Look at my posts with Scholar820, I respect that guy because when he talks he does with respect. No Muslim on Nairaland(that I know) has ever abused that guy even when the debate is on heat. Learn how to talk before you demand respect.

2. By Al taqiyya

grin Dull baby, you're too dumb!

3. By look for moral equivalence. Eg. Fact: mohammed slept with a 9year old child; muslim then offer this refute: in Spain the age of consent is blahblahblah or some catholic priests molested children or in some US states in the 1800s the age of consent was 14. .

Aisha's age has been explained countless times. You criticise the marriage of Prophet Muhammad to Aisha when in fact Mary was 12years when she married 90year Joseph. She had sex with him after Jesus was born at the age of 14,when Joseph was 92years. Please refute that fact before throwing tantrums. You complain about Satan eating but you're happy that heavenly angels had sex with daughters of men. What I hate most is double standards! angry

4. Striking out or cancelling out the text and claiming the comment has been refuted. (that's a favorite of yours and empiree.)

We strikeout dull posts, every intelligent person won't post as you and your cohorts do. At times when I see your posts, I'm marvelled at your level of stupidity.

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Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by Demmzy15(m): 5:59pm On Aug 17, 2015
Annunaki:


Because the so called refutal lacked substance and was full of al taqquiya tongue
Anus-aki aka jargons you've come again abi?
Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by Nobody: 6:59pm On Aug 17, 2015
Demmzy15:

Anus-aki aka jargons you've come again abi?
lol how do u get to know them when they are disguising? and it seems u are always right when i study the behavior.

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Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by Demmzy15(m): 7:08pm On Aug 17, 2015
lexiconkabir:
lol how do u get to know them when they are disguising? and it seems u are always right when i study the behavior.
You'll surely know them, they're like goats once you chase them away, they'll come back! Too stubborn!
Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by onetrack(m): 7:40pm On Aug 17, 2015
I think this is a good step for the rulers of Abu Dhabi. When you consider that Muhammad ordered the Muslims to expel all the polytheists, Jews, and Christians from the Arabian peninsula, it's nice to see them allowing them to return and build places of worship (even if I am an atheist). Tolerance of peaceful religious practices is better than intolerance. The next step should be Saudi Arabia.

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Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by Demmzy15(m): 9:09pm On Aug 17, 2015
onetrack:
I think this is a good step for the rulers of Abu Dhabi. When you consider that Muhammad ordered the Muslims to expel all the polytheists, Jews, and Christians from the Arabian peninsula, it's nice to see them allowing them to return and build places of worship (even if I am an atheist). Tolerance of peaceful religious practices is better than intolerance. The next step should be Saudi Arabia.
You need to know what you're saying so as you won't misinform. Understanding is a great virtue and I think you lack that. We have enough Jews and Christians in the Arabian peninsula with Jews in Saudi Arabia until the declaration of Israel.

When the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) gave commands to his companions he spoke using the terminology and the language that they were familiar with. Thus, the regions mentioned were defined according to the cultural and geopolitical setting in Arabia. If we look at how the Prophet's comnpanions understood and implemented his directives, we are able to develop a better understanding of what the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) intended.

This was why Umar(RadiAllahu Anha) acted upon this orders by relocating the Jews:

"Umar sent them to Taymâ and Arîhâ. This is proof that the Prophet (peace be upon him) intended that the Jews and Christians should be evicted from only part of the Arabian Peninsula, specifically the region of Hijâz.
This is because Taymâ is part of the Arabian Peninsula but outside of Hijâz."
(Sharh Sahîh Muslim 10/212-213)

"Al-Shâfi`î understood the ruling to apply to part of the Arabian Peninsula, namely the Hijâz region.
For him this is Makkah, Madînah, al-Yamâmah and their environs. It does not include Yemen and other areas of the Arabian Peninsula."
(Sharh Sahîh Muslim 11/93-94)

"The pagans are not allowed to settle specifically in the Hijâz region, meaning Makkah, Madînah, al-Yamâmah, and their environs.
It does not apply to other regions that are considered part of the Arabian Peninsula. This is because everyone is agreed that they may live in Yemen, though it is part of the Arabian Peninsula. This is the opinion of the majority of scholars."
(Fath al-Bârî 6/198)

So this is why you can find churches, synagogues in other parts of the Arabian peninsula but not in Saudi Arabia. The areas I emphasized in "red" are found in Saudi Arabia, so don't get it twisted. These areas are sanctuaries to Muslims and it must be respected.

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Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by onetrack(m): 9:20pm On Aug 17, 2015
Demmzy15:

You need to know what you're saying so as you won't misinform. Understanding is a great virtue and I think you lack that. We have enough Jews and Christians in the Arabian peninsula with Jews in Saudi Arabia until the declaration of Israel.

When the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) gave commands to his companions he spoke using the terminology and the language that they were familiar with. Thus, the regions mentioned were defined according to the cultural and geopolitical setting in Arabia. If we look at how the Prophet's comnpanions understood and implemented his directives, we are able to develop a better understanding of what the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) intended.

This was why Umar(RadiAllahu Anha) acted upon this orders by relocating the Jews:

`Umar sent them to Taymâ and Arîhâ. This is proof that the Prophet (peace be upon him) intended that the Jews and Christians should be evicted from only part of the Arabian Peninsula, specifically the region of Hijâz.
This is because Taymâ is part of the Arabian Peninsula but outside of Hijâz."
(Sharh Sahîh Muslim 10/212-213)

"Al-Shâfi`î understood the ruling to apply to part of the Arabian Peninsula, namely the Hijâz region.
For him this is Makkah, Madînah, al-Yamâmah and their environs. It does not include Yemen and other areas of the Arabian Peninsula."
(Sharh Sahîh Muslim 11/93-94)

"The pagans are not allowed to settle specifically in the Hijâz region, meaning Makkah, Madînah, al-Yamâmah, and their environs.
It does not apply to other regions that are considered part of the Arabian Peninsula. This is because everyone is agreed that they may live in Yemen, though it is part of the Arabian Peninsula. This is the opinion of the majority of scholars."
(Fath al-Bârî 6/198)

So this is why you can find churches, synagogues in other parts of the Arabian peninsula but not in Saudi Arabia. The areas I emphasized in "red" are found in Saudi Arabia, so don't get it twisted. These areas are sanctuaries to Muslims and it must be respected.

Sahih Muslim #1767a: "It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say:
'I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.'

It cannot get any clearer than that. But given the comments on the issue made by the scholars you cite, it seems that, once again, religious scripture means whatever people want it to mean (but we've known that forever. Secondly, this is more proof that religious scripture is a mish-mash of contradicting statements concocted by humans.

Do you really think that Muhammad would allow a new pagan temple to be constructed in Arabia, given his contempt for them as seen in the Quran?

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Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by Demmzy15(m): 9:34pm On Aug 17, 2015
onetrack:


Sahih Muslim #1767a: "It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say:
'I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.'

It cannot get any clearer than that. But given the comments on the issue made by the scholars you cite, it seems that, once again, religious scripture means whatever people want it to mean (but we've known that forever. Secondly, this is more proof that religious scripture is a mish-mash of contradicting statements concocted by humans.

Do you really think that Muhammad would allow a new pagan temple to be constructed in Arabia, given his contempt for them as seen in the Quran?
I started everything clearly, even Umar who narrated the hadith you quoted above @emboldened acted upon this command when he was the Leader of Muslims. He moved all Jews to Taymâ and Arîhâ. He was with the Prophet when he said it and he acted upon it, he didn't drive them out totally. He only moved them out of Hijaz and its environs.

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Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by PAGAN9JA(m): 6:10am On Aug 18, 2015
this is nonsense. we should also expel the muslims from our lands.

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Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by onetrack(m): 7:46am On Aug 18, 2015
Demmzy15:

I started everything clearly, even Umar who narrated the hadith you quoted above @emboldened acted upon this command when he was the Leader of Muslims. He moved all Jews to Taymâ and Arîhâ. He was with the Prophet when he said it and he acted upon it, he didn't drive them out totally. He only moved them out of Hijaz and its environs.

You should be aware that a lot of Muslims disagree with you and do not like the Hindu temple being built.
Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by Demmzy15(m): 10:26am On Aug 18, 2015
PAGAN9JA:
this is nonsense. we should also expel the muslims from our lands.
Oya na! grin

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Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by Demmzy15(m): 10:30am On Aug 18, 2015
onetrack:


You should be aware that a lot of Muslims disagree with you and do not like the Hindu temple being built.
Don't forget UAE isn't a democracy, so no one can put up demonstrations. The Emir who's the overall head knows why he did that. Maybe because Indians really helped the country and he decided to pay them back with this, who knows? The people's complaints carries no weight, it's one of the things an Islamic State ought to provide the Non-Muslims.

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Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by truthman2013: 10:31am On Aug 18, 2015
PAGAN9JA:
this is nonsense. we should also expel the muslims from our lands.

..when are you going to start?


truthman.

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Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by PAGAN9JA(m): 11:14am On Aug 18, 2015
truthman2013:


..when are you going to start?


truthman.

when I have a mob big enough to support me.
Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by Nobody: 11:18am On Aug 18, 2015
PAGAN9JA:

when I have a mob big enough to support me.
ehn ehn?
Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by tartar9(m): 3:19pm On Aug 18, 2015
too bad
Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by PAGAN9JA(m): 7:07am On Aug 19, 2015
Abu Dhabi Education Minister Shekh Nahyan bin Mubarak Al Nahyan with Hindu Priests:

Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by PAGAN9JA(m): 7:08am On Aug 19, 2015
more..

Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by parisbookaddict(f): 8:25am On Aug 19, 2015
Demmzy15:


grin Why are you pained about it?



Look at my posts with Scholar820, I respect that guy because when he talks he does with respect. No Muslim on Nairaland(that I know) has ever abused that guy even when the debate is on heat. Learn how to talk before you demand respect.



grin Dull baby, you're too dumb!



Aisha's age has been explained countless times. You criticise the marriage of Prophet Muhammad to Aisha when in fact Mary was 12years when she married 90year Joseph. She had sex with him after Jesus was born at the age of 14,when Joseph was 92years. Please refute that fact before throwing tantrums. You complain about Satan eating but you're happy that heavenly angels had sex with daughters of men. What I hate most is double standards! angry



We strikeout dull posts, every intelligent person won't post as you and your cohorts do. At times when I see your posts, I'm marvelled at your level of stupidity.

You are in denial. Read this carefully if u are not afraid of the truth.

its
necessary I correct you of the falsehood you tried to sell with
christianity.
This correction is for you,any reader you may have misled with this
and the possible source of your knowledge.

Mary,the mother of Jesus was not 12 when she got married.
First,when she perceived that she has become pregnant,she went to
visit her cousin,elizabeth,not aunt,not mother,cousin. Now,being
cousins means that though there can be some age gap between
them,but they are contemporaries and friends(luke1:39-40). And
Elizabeth herself has well aged and has even long entered
menopause. Hence,mary couldn't be a teenager,not to talk of 12.
Secondly,it was also written that on getting pregnant,she relocated
from her house to Elizabeth's where she stayed with her for
3months before going back to her own house(see luke1:56).

I don't
think a 12year old or even a teenager will be having her own house
at that time and even now.
Thirdly,her ability to independently move from her city to another
for 3months clearly shows that we are dealing with a mature
woman,not a teen or even less.
Fourthly,she was addressed throughout by both the angel and her
cousin as a woman(see luke1:28,42)

Fifthly,read her songs of exaltation from Luke1:46-55. It clearly
shows the intelliegence of a full grown woman who is knowledgable
in her ancestral history as she is of spiritual things.

As for Joseph,though no mention was ever made anywhere in the
bible of his age,the bible describes him as a just man which modern
scholars will refer to as a perfect gentleman.

Also,12years after Jesus was born,his parents were still going to
Jerusalem for their annual thanksgiving and this was a journey of
days by road. That would have put Joseph's age at 111 if he
married her at 99. Had it been so,the bible would have mentioned it
as chronological order was very important then.

When 12yr old Jesus went missing, Mary and Joseph turned the whole Jerusalem upside down searching for him until they found him in the temple. If 12yr old was considered adult then, his parents wouldn't have worried because as an "adult he could fend for himself" But no, Mary and Joseph went searching for him till she found him, why? Because, a 12yr old child is considered as a kid. As it was in 2000 years ago and today... All this evidence should tell you clearly that Mary wasn't 12yrs old at the time she was engaged to Joseph.

unlike Mohammed who sees a 6 year old child fit for marriage and 9 year old fit for sex..
Why are you denying the truth? It shows you are ashamed of your prophet's immoral deed. See the full text of the hadiths:

Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her)
reported that [size=16pt]Allah's Apostle (may
peace be upon him) married her
when she was seven years old,
and he was taken to his house as
a bride when she was nine, and
her dolls were with her; [/size]
and when
he (the Holy Prophet) died she
was eighteen years old.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number 232:
Narrated 'Amr bin Maimun:
I heard Sulaiman bin Yasar talking
about the clothes soiled with
s.emen. He said that 'Aisha had
said, "I used to wash it off the
clothes of Allah's Apostle and he
would go for the prayers while
water spots were still visible on
them.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Number 298:
Narrated 'Aisha:
[size=13pt]The Prophet and I used to take a
bath from a single pot while we
were Junub. During the menses,
he used to order me to put on an
Izar (dress worn below the waist)
and used to F.ONDLE me. While in
Itikaf, he used to bring his head
near me and I would wash it while
I used to be in my periods
(MENSES). [/size]


Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3460:
Jabir b. 'Abdullah (Allah be pleased
with them) reported: 'Abdullah
died and he left (behind him) nine
or seven daughters. I married a
woman who had been previously
married. Allah's Messenger (may
peace be upon him) said to me:
Jabir, have you married? I said:
Yes. He (again) said: A virgin or
one previously married? I said:
Messenger of Allah, with one who
was previously married,
whereupon he said:[size=13pt] Why didn't
you marry a young girl so that
you could sport with her and she
could sport with you, [/size]
or you could
amuse with her and she could
amuse with you? I said to him:
'Abdullah died (he fell as martyr in
Uhud) and left nine or seven
daughters behind him; I,
therefore, did not approve of the
idea that I should bring a (girl)
like them, but I preferred to bring
a woman who should look after
them and teach them good
manners, whereupon he (Allah's
Messenger) said: May Allah bless
you, or he supplicated (for the)
good (to be) conferred on me (by
Allah).


○○○○○●


I want to add that the bible makes it clear u marry a woman and not a
child..this is not even debatable. .

1 Corinthians 7:2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality,
each man should have his own wife and [size=13pt] each woman her own husband.

[/size]

1 Corinthians 7:1-40 ESV / 1,012 helpful votes
Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: “It is good for a
man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” But because of the
temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and [size=13pt]
each woman her own husband. [/size]
The husband should give to his wife her
conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does
not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise
the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife
does. Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a
limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come
together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack
of self-control. ...


Leviticus 21:7 ESV / 38 helpful votes
They shall not marry a prostitute or [size=13pt] a woman [/size]
who has been defiled,
neither shall they marry a woman divorced from her husband, for the
priest is holy to his God.

[size=13pt]
notice the consistent use of the word woman and not girl or female.. [/size]

Please, while we do not care about the lifestyle of your prophet mohammed , I
plead that you do not spread falsehood of christianity in trying to
justify the pitiable act of his of molesting a child.



Now go and use al taqiyya NO MORE.

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Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by parisbookaddict(f): 8:32am On Aug 19, 2015
onetrack:
I think this is a good step for the rulers of Abu Dhabi. When you consider that Muhammad ordered the Muslims to expel all the polytheists, Jews, and Christians from the Arabian peninsula, it's nice to see them allowing them to return and build places of worship (even if I am an atheist). Tolerance of peaceful religious practices is better than intolerance. The next step should be Saudi Arabia.

In afew years time the conservative Muslims will revolt in the country and convert the Hindu temple to a mosque. That's how Islam works. If they can't convert it, they will loot it before blowing it up. Go and see All the churches and synagogues they have done that to in the middle east
Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by Annunaki(m): 8:51am On Aug 19, 2015
parisbookaddict:


In afew years time the conservative Muslims will revolt in the country and convert the Hindu temple to a mosque. That's how Islam works. If they can't convert it, they will loot it before blowing it up. Go and see All the churches and synagogues they have done that to in the middle east

I don't think so, in a few years the way they are going muslims will be in the minority in Abu dahbi even saudi Arabia will one day seize to be an islamic country. Islam is on a fast decline.

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Re: Abu Dhabi Sheikhs Award Land Indians For Hindu Temple by Demmzy15(m): 11:50am On Aug 19, 2015
parisbookaddict:


[s]You are in denial. Read this carefully if u are not afraid of the truth.

its
necessary I correct you of the falsehood you tried to sell with
christianity.
This correction is for you,any reader you may have misled with this
and the possible source of your knowledge.

Mary,the mother of Jesus was not 12 when she got married.
First,when she perceived that she has become pregnant,she went to
visit her cousin,elizabeth,not aunt,not mother,cousin. Now,being
cousins means that though there can be some age gap between
them,but they are contemporaries and friends(luke1:39-40). And
Elizabeth herself has well aged and has even long entered
menopause. Hence,mary couldn't be a teenager,not to talk of 12.
Secondly,it was also written that on getting pregnant,she relocated
from her house to Elizabeth's where she stayed with her for
3months before going back to her own house(see luke1:56).

I don't
think a 12year old or even a teenager will be having her own house
at that time and even now.
Thirdly,her ability to independently move from her city to another
for 3months clearly shows that we are dealing with a mature
woman,not a teen or even less.
Fourthly,she was addressed throughout by both the angel and her
cousin as a woman(see luke1:28,42)

Fifthly,read her songs of exaltation from Luke1:46-55. It clearly
shows the intelliegence of a full grown woman who is knowledgable
in her ancestral history as she is of spiritual things.

As for Joseph,though no mention was ever made anywhere in the
bible of his age,the bible describes him as a just man which modern
scholars will refer to as a perfect gentleman.

Also,12years after Jesus was born,his parents were still going to
Jerusalem for their annual thanksgiving and this was a journey of
days by road. That would have put Joseph's age at 111 if he
married her at 99. Had it been so,the bible would have mentioned it
as chronological order was very important then.

When 12yr old Jesus went missing, Mary and Joseph turned the whole Jerusalem upside down searching for him until they found him in the temple. If 12yr old was considered adult then, his parents wouldn't have worried because as an "adult he could fend for himself" But no, Mary and Joseph went searching for him till she found him, why? Because, a 12yr old child is considered as a kid. As it was in 2000 years ago and today... All this evidence should tell you clearly that Mary wasn't 12yrs old at the time she was engaged to Joseph.

unlike Mohammed who sees a 6 year old child fit for marriage and 9 year old fit for sex..
Why are you denying the truth? It shows you are ashamed of your prophet's immoral deed. See the full text of the hadiths:

Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her)
reported that [size=16pt]Allah's Apostle (may
peace be upon him) married her
when she was seven years old,
and he was taken to his house as
a bride when she was nine, and
her dolls were with her; [/size]
and when
he (the Holy Prophet) died she
was eighteen years old.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number 232:
Narrated 'Amr bin Maimun:
I heard Sulaiman bin Yasar talking
about the clothes soiled with
s.emen. He said that 'Aisha had
said, "I used to wash it off the
clothes of Allah's Apostle and he
would go for the prayers while
water spots were still visible on
them.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Number 298:
Narrated 'Aisha:
[size=13pt]The Prophet and I used to take a
bath from a single pot while we
were Junub. During the menses,
he used to order me to put on an
Izar (dress worn below the waist)
and used to F.ONDLE me. While in
Itikaf, he used to bring his head
near me and I would wash it while
I used to be in my periods
(MENSES). [/size]


Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3460:
Jabir b. 'Abdullah (Allah be pleased
with them) reported: 'Abdullah
died and he left (behind him) nine
or seven daughters. I married a
woman who had been previously
married. Allah's Messenger (may
peace be upon him) said to me:
Jabir, have you married? I said:
Yes. He (again) said: A virgin or
one previously married? I said:
Messenger of Allah, with one who
was previously married,
whereupon he said:[size=13pt] Why didn't
you marry a young girl so that
you could sport with her and she
could sport with you, [/size]
or you could
amuse with her and she could
amuse with you? I said to him:
'Abdullah died (he fell as martyr in
Uhud) and left nine or seven
daughters behind him; I,
therefore, did not approve of the
idea that I should bring a (girl)
like them, but I preferred to bring
a woman who should look after
them and teach them good
manners, whereupon he (Allah's
Messenger) said: May Allah bless
you, or he supplicated (for the)
good (to be) conferred on me (by
Allah).


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I want to add that the bible makes it clear u marry a woman and not a
child..this is not even debatable. .

1 Corinthians 7:2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality,
each man should have his own wife and [size=13pt] each woman her own husband.

[/size]

1 Corinthians 7:1-40 ESV / 1,012 helpful votes
Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: “It is good for a
man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” But because of the
temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and [size=13pt]
each woman her own husband. [/size]
The husband should give to his wife her
conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does
not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise
the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife
does. Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a
limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come
together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack
of self-control. ...


Leviticus 21:7 ESV / 38 helpful votes
They shall not marry a prostitute or [size=13pt] a woman [/size]
who has been defiled,
neither shall they marry a woman divorced from her husband, for the
priest is holy to his God.

[size=13pt]
notice the consistent use of the word woman and not girl or female.. [/size]

Please, while we do not care about the lifestyle of your prophet mohammed , I
plead that you do not spread falsehood of christianity in trying to
justify the pitiable act of his of molesting a child.



Now go and use al taqiyya NO MORE. [/s]
No need to flex muscle as if you've achieved something, everything you stated has been refuted with Scholar820, we had a nice debate. I presented pedophilia in the Bible in which no Christian refuted, so stop making noise https://www.nairaland.com/2509652/pure-description-islam

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