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What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Misanthrope: 10:59am On Aug 27, 2015
I don't understand, is it that nobody wants to study Mathematics & Statistics? Why is the population of people going for that course always low?

Even Unilorin, where about 100,000 candidates applied, only 29 or 30 people are going for a Mathematics course.

I have checked other Universities(OAU, UNN, ABU, UI, Unilag). Still no difference.

I applied for Statistics but since for months now, I've been searching the internet, to see if anyone applied for my course, but all efforts have proven vain.


please, why is that students don't want to go near those two courses?.
Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Nobody: 11:20am On Aug 27, 2015
Misanthrope:
I don't understand, is it that nobody wants to study Mathematics & Statistics? Why is the population of people going for that course always low?

Even Unilorin, where about 100,000 candidates applied, only 29 or 30 people are going for a Mathematics course.

I have checked other top Universities(OAU, UNN, ABU, UI, Unilag). Still no difference.

I applied for Statistics but since for months now, I've been searching the internet, to see if anyone applied for my course, but all efforts have proven vain.


please, why is that students don't want to go near those two courses?.

Nigeria do not have room for Graduates of those courses.

If you study Mathematics, you can only see opportunity in schools as a teacher, so is statistics graduates too.

For you to make headway in those too courses, especially Statistics, You must have Masters in Either OR, MandE, QCandQA, Demography, and some other courses in ICT such as Programming, Software Designing, Project Management etc.
This is Because the firms that provides such opportunityise are always foreign own.

NPC, INEC, CBN and the like that should have accommodated the bulk of these graduates are mis-managed.

Start thinking of using your free time to earn some qualifications online and wherever reachable.

#StatisticsGraduates
Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Misanthrope: 11:23am On Aug 27, 2015
victorels:


Nigeria do not have room for Graduates of those courses.

If you study Mathematics, you can only see opportunity in schools as a teacher, so is statistics graduates too.

For you to make headway in those too courses, especially Statistics, You must have Masters in Either OR, MandE, QCandQA, Demography, and some other courses in ICT such as Programming, Software Designing, Project Management etc.
This is Because the firms that provides such opportunityise are always foreign own.

NPC, INEC, CBN and the like that should have accommodated the bulk of these graduates are mis-managed.

Start thinking of using your free time to earn some qualifications online and wherever reachable.

#StatisticsGraduates



You are a Statistics graduate?
Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by bolaji3071(m): 11:24am On Aug 27, 2015
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Itz BOLAJI30171 again.
Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Koboseadotorg(m): 11:26am On Aug 27, 2015
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Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Koboseadotorg(m): 11:28am On Aug 27, 2015

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Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Misanthrope: 11:28am On Aug 27, 2015
bolaji3071:
Mathematics Odikwa okay!




Itz BOLAJI30171 again.

Yes, Some that studied mathematics can work as Statistician too, the two courses are related. Only that Statistics is based on Probability Theory and Data Analysis.

Did you apply for Mathematics? Or you're a graduate already?
Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Misanthrope: 11:29am On Aug 27, 2015
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Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Koboseadotorg(m): 11:30am On Aug 27, 2015
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Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Nobody: 12:07pm On Aug 27, 2015
Both courses're boring and unengaging. Teachers who lecture them also make them look more dull than they're. The only real-world application most people have of both courses is addition, subtraction, multiplication and division.

There's also no way to relate the benefits of those courses to growing children because apart from the applications I listed they'd need no more. I remember being a child yearning to become a banker in future because all stories and pictures I saw of them involved money signs, transactions and a fat well-fed man in a suit. I went ahead to pursue my dream of becoming one earning both a Bsc and masters degree along the way.

How does one even manage to make statistics and mathematics look attractive to children?
Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Nobody: 2:51pm On Aug 27, 2015
charix:
Both courses're boring and unengaging. Teachers who lecture them also make them look more dull than they're. The only real-world application most people have of both courses is addition, subtraction, multiplication and division.

Are you really this ignorant or are you just trolling? :-/
Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Nobody: 4:06pm On Aug 27, 2015
Karmanaut:

Are you really this ignorant or are you just trolling? :-/
If the statement was incorrect the OP wouldn't've opened this thread. State your opinion and keep it moving. Counter other opinions with a solid argument not insinuations.
Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Nobody: 5:30pm On Aug 27, 2015
charix:

If the statement was incorrect the OP wouldn't've opened this thread. State your opinion and keep it moving. Counter other opinions with a solid argument not insinuations.
Mathematics is boring? undecided
Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Nobody: 6:31pm On Aug 27, 2015
Misanthrope:
I don't understand, is it that nobody wants to study Mathematics & Statistics? Why is the population of people going for that course always low?

Even Unilorin, where about 100,000 candidates applied, only 29 or 30 people are going for a Mathematics course.

I have checked other Universities(OAU, UNN, ABU, UI, Unilag). Still no difference.

I applied for Statistics but since for months now, I've been searching the internet, to see if anyone applied for my course, but all efforts have proven vain.


please, why is that students don't want to go near those two courses?.
If you love Mathematics/Statistics with the hope of securing a good job after graduation, calm down and study ECONOMICS

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Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Misanthrope: 7:33pm On Aug 27, 2015
ALKARULEZZ:
If you love Mathematics/Statistics with the hope of securing a good job after graduation, calm down and study ECONOMICS


I am not a commercial student.
Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Misanthrope: 7:44pm On Aug 27, 2015
charix:

If the statement was incorrect the OP wouldn't've opened this thread. State your opinion and keep it moving. Counter other opinions with a solid argument not insinuations.


Thank you for your contribution, but I think you went too far in saying Mathematics is boring, I intended to expatiate the pleasure I derive from solving mathematical problems but I won't delve into that part.


Secondly, Arithmetic is not(just) what Mathematics is all about, Without algebra there would be no such thing as Intergration in Computer Science, without geometry and algebra, there would be no cars nor aeroplanes, Boolean Algebra applies to electrical engineering too.

I mean, Mathematics is so diverse. Even in the insurance company, Statisticians can work as Actuary.

What are the top 3 jobs in the world?

1. Mathematician
2. Actuary
3. Statistician.

Check the internet if you doubt me.

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Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Nobody: 7:44pm On Aug 27, 2015
Misanthrope:



I am not a commercial student.
Ignorance kills faster than ebola..

I was a Science student back in secondary school.. I'm a 300 level student (Economics)

Clue: ur UTME combo shud be English, Economics, Mathematics and Geography (for Science students)
Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Zico5(m): 8:11pm On Aug 27, 2015
victorels:


Nigeria do not have room for Graduates of those courses.

If you study Mathematics, you can only see opportunity in schools as a teacher, so is statistics graduates too.

For you to make headway in those too courses, especially Statistics, You must have Masters in Either OR, MandE, QCandQA, Demography, and some other courses in ICT such as Programming, Software Designing, Project Management etc.
This is Because the firms that provides such opportunityise are always foreign own.

NPC, INEC, CBN and the like that should have accommodated the bulk of these graduates are mis-managed.

Start thinking of using your free time to earn some qualifications online and wherever reachable.

#StatisticsGraduates
What manner of people re these. U called urself statistics graduate and u re talking like this. It means u don't know the relevance of statistics in our environment and Nigeria at large. I have HND and post graduate diploma in statistics from federal polytechnic, Ede and University of Ibadan respectively. Currently I'm doing my master in statistics as well. I work with new generation bank in lagos and marry with a career woman in MTN. The fact in life is going for what u want and achieve it. I have never fail job test in my duration of job searching and this is to the knowledge of abstract mathematics. So I really thank God that he made me to study statistics. I have some of my course mates that are doing well today. Going to school is not about getting certificate but about knowing ur potential. I recon today that STATISTICS is the best course. Many people re afraid of statistics cos they think it is difficult. So chill out if u don't know what u re talking about.
Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Zico5(m): 8:21pm On Aug 27, 2015
ALKARULEZZ:
If you love Mathematics/Statistics with the hope of securing a good job after graduation, calm down and study ECONOMICS
U made a mistake, go and search very well. Statistics stands on it own and its importance is more than u can imagine. Statistics is more importance cos this is what made economics difficult. I place statistics above economics any day any time
Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Nobody: 8:24pm On Aug 27, 2015
Misanthrope:
You enjoying mathematics makes you one of the top 1% of Nigerian students. Assuming because you enjoy it everyone should is called confirmation bias - where you disregard the majority of people who dislike it and remember only those who find it interesting.

Even your original post shows clearly that less than 1% of university intakes study those courses and I've told you why from anecdotal evidence. The solution to this problem cannot start from university level, it can only get corrected from the basic(primary school) level.

I tell the truth when I say mathematics is boring. If you doubt me, visit any school you know and observe math classes from primary four to SS1. Past the arithmetic stage its difficult to engage children with math.

Yes the applications you mentioned exist but I see no one calculating geometry to get the best part of beef at the market or integrating squares to find the best price of detergent.

So now the question to ask is:

Charix:
How does one even manage to make statistics and mathematics look attractive to
children?
Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Misanthrope: 8:40pm On Aug 27, 2015
Zico5:

What manner of people re these. U called urself statistics graduate and u re talking like this. It means u don't know the relevance of statistics in our environment and Nigeria at large. I have HND and post graduate diploma in statistics from federal polytechnic, Ede and University of Ibadan respectively. Currently I'm doing my master in statistics as well. I work with new generation bank in lagos and marry with a career woman in MTN. The fact in life is going for what u want and achieve it. I have never fail job test in my duration of job searching and this is to the knowledge of abstract mathematics. So I really thank God that he made me to study statistics. I have some of my course mates that are doing well today. Going to school is not about getting certificate but about knowing ur potential. I recon today that STATISTICS is the best course. Many people re afraid of statistics cos they think it is difficult. So chill out if u don't know what u re talking about.



It is really sad to see a graduate in Statistics say something that horrible.


please, I applied for Statistics, how challenging is the course?
Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Lordseyad(m): 8:54pm On Aug 27, 2015
Mehn --- Statistics -- Facts from reliable figures..

repping repping-- Well amma 300L Unilorin statistician, and believe me For a graduate of Sta to post that: OMG! Would have love to ask you some questions like Where did you graduate from? jeez - Only that is ok sef..
Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Nobody: 8:58pm On Aug 27, 2015
Zico5:

What manner of people re these. U called urself statistics graduate and u re talking like this. It means u don't know the relevance of statistics in our environment and Nigeria at large. I have HND and post graduate diploma in statistics from federal polytechnic, Ede and University of Ibadan respectively. Currently I'm doing my master in statistics as well. I work with new generation bank in lagos and marry with a career woman in MTN. The fact in life is going for what u want and achieve it. I have never fail job test in my duration of job searching and this is to the knowledge of abstract mathematics. So I really thank God that he made me to study statistics. I have some of my course mates that are doing well today. Going to school is not about getting certificate but about knowing ur potential. I recon today that STATISTICS is the best course. Many people re afraid of statistics cos they think it is difficult. So chill out if u don't know what u re talking about.

That is because opportunity call on you.

I have done some field work with MDGs and was part of the team for CBN financial Inclusion project. These are contract Jobs.

You have the opportunity to get administrative Job in a Bank or you started from Marketing, good for you. But it is not every body that want to be a marketer. ( I received a couple of invites for test as a Marketer for a Bank but I declined because I the impression I was given was not who I wanted to be)

Becoming a statistician, you must have had precondition of were you want to work or duties you want to be involved in. When such is not coming but options of teaching, being a call center agent or marketing, you would sometimes wish you never ventured into such field.

I don't know how long you've been on your work but the beauty of a course is not it needless.

If I receive a call to do a field work in Borno state, I will jump on it because I love it. But where can you find one that is permanent.
Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Zico5(m): 9:34pm On Aug 27, 2015
Misanthrope:




It is really sad to see a graduate in Statistics say something that horrible.


please, I applied for Statistics, how challenging is the course?
It depends on u my dear, statistics is simple, all it takes is determination and seriousness. At times, u find it hard but tutorial and group discussion help a lot. I had upper on both sides and I believe u can do better if u wish. Above all, put God first and he will guide ur path.
Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Nobody: 2:52pm On Jan 04, 2016
charix:
Both courses're boring and unengaging. Teachers who lecture them also make them look more dull than they're. The only real-world application most people have of both courses is addition, subtraction, multiplication and division.

There's also no way to relate the benefits of those courses to growing children because apart from the applications I listed they'd need no more. I remember being a child yearning to become a banker in future because all stories and pictures I saw of them involved money signs, transactions and a fat well-fed man in a suit. I went ahead to pursue my dream of becoming one earning both a Bsc and masters degree along the way.

How does one even manage to make statistics and mathematics look attractive to children?
you are d biggest foool of d century for typing dis. Such an iidiot and i thought u were reasonable fellow
Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Nobody: 9:51pm On Jan 05, 2016
Durentt:
you are d biggest foool of d century for typing dis. Such an iidiot and i thought u were reasonable fellow
Amazing comment. I especially like the use of critical thinking in relation to the thread's title. The recommendation at the end was extremely well thought out and I'm sure the OP would find it very useful. I shall save this comment and show my grand children, it would better their lives.
Re: What Is Reason Behind The Low up Turn For Aspirants In Mathematics/statistics? by Nobody: 9:59pm On Jan 05, 2016
charix:

Amazing comment. I especially like the use of critical thinking in relation to the thread's title. The recommendation at the end was extremely well thought out and I'm sure the OP would find it very useful. I shall save this comment and show my grand children, it would better their lives.
u beta save ur unintelligent comment for ur grand children nd stop spewing trash here. I jst hope they also won't be as ignorant as u. Rubbish

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