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Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by ikorodureporta: 10:21am On Sep 06, 2015
Last week sunday, i was in a provincial headquaters of d RCCG when i observed a message being scrolled on the multimedia screen, asking the comgregation to support their member in d project fame academy. It went on throughout the service...

It should be recalled here that a pastor in RCCG was sanctioned a few weeks ago for an alleged invitation of Fuji artiste, Pasuma Alabi to minister in its program in Lagos.

Now, am asking, what type of songs do they sing at MTN project fame?
Is the church confused, or is it just hypocrisy
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by Nobody: 10:21am On Sep 06, 2015
grin
IF THE CHURCH CAN ALLOW POLITICIANS PREACH ON THE PULPIT, WHY NOT?



RELIGION IS A FARCE.
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:39am On Sep 06, 2015
Freemanan:
grin
IF THE CHURCH CAN ALLOW POLITICIANS PREACH ON THE PULPIT, WHY NOT?



RELIGION IS A FARCE.

How does this apposite to what the OP is talking about ? Even looking at it politicians supposedly come with the interest of the people in mind

@ikorodureporta .. . They don't sing christian songs , so its wrong
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by Nobody: 10:46am On Sep 06, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


How does this apposite to what the OP is talking about ? Even looking at it politicians supposedly come with the interest of the people in mind

@ikorodureporta .. . They don't sing christian songs , so its wrong

"SUPPOSEDLY"...
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:49am On Sep 06, 2015
Freemanan:


"SUPPOSEDLY"...

I know ... I know .. but they are our leaders who are to have our interest in mind
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by Nobody: 10:50am On Sep 06, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


I know ... I know .. but they are our leaders who are to have our interest in mind
Let's be realistic Mate... They don't...
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:55am On Sep 06, 2015
Freemanan:

Let's be realistic Mate... They don't...

Lol ... because they came to church , now they dont ? Come on !!! "Christian states" in Nigeria have/are witnessed/witnessing development in some areas and Im preetaay sure that the governors came to church during the campaign period .

But I think its not right for politicians to campaign in church though .
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by Nobody: 10:59am On Sep 06, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


Lol ... because they came to church , now they dont ? Come on !!! "Christian states" in Nigeria have/are witnessed/witnessing development in some areas and Im preetaay sure that the governors came to church during the campaign period .

But I think its not right for politicians to campaign in church though .
Politics has no business in the house of God... Simple. There is no fine tunning it.
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:01am On Sep 06, 2015
Freemanan:

Politics has no business in the house of God... Simple. There is no fine tunning it.

Ok .. I agree smiley .

But Atheist or Agnostic or deist ?
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by Nobody: 11:02am On Sep 06, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


Ok .. I agree smiley .

But Atheist or Agnostic or deist ?
Pantheism
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:05am On Sep 06, 2015
Freemanan:

Pantheism

But what's the actual difference difference between deism and pantheism ? Do you see a difference ?
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by Nobody: 11:07am On Sep 06, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


But what's the actual difference difference between deism and pantheism ? Do you see a difference ?
Deism doesn't believe in Spiritual entities... Pantheism does. And Pantheism believes there is GOD himself/itself in everything while Deism holds that GOD delegates others his powers to be in everything.
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:10am On Sep 06, 2015
Freemanan:

Deism doesn't believe in Spiritual entities... Pantheism does. And Pantheism believes there is GOD himself/itself in everything while Deism holds that GOD delegates others his powers to be in everything.

Wow wait ... You believe in a supreme being or that everything makes one being . Or not necessarily a being . Elucidate please
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by Nobody: 11:13am On Sep 06, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


Wow wait ... You believe in a supreme being or that everything makes one being . Or not necessarily a being . Elucidate please
I believe WE all came from one place. Someone or something made all things and I believe that thing is in everything... I believe in everything and I hold a notion that Nothing is accidental or evil. That's Pantheism...
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:17am On Sep 06, 2015
Freemanan:

I believe WE all came from one place. Someone or something made all things and I believe that thing is in everything... I believe in everything and I hold a notion that Nothing is accidental or evil. That's Pantheism...


Do you mind if I should offer a say in your belief ?
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by Nobody: 11:17am On Sep 06, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:



Do you mind if I should offer a say in your belief ?
I am Pantheist, I welcome any opinion. Go on.
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:32am On Sep 06, 2015
Freemanan:

I am Pantheist, I welcome any opinion. Go on.

According to you - "someone or something made all things and I believe that thing is in everything" . Energy is in everything

So does this imply God is energy ?

And there is "someone or something" meaning your belief is on a journey to attain a perfect conclusion of what that someone or something is . Right ?
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by Nobody: 11:40am On Sep 06, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


According to you - "someone or something made all things and I believe that thing is in everything" . Energy is in everything

So does this imply God is energy ?

GOD IS EVERYTHING MATE. EVERYTHING!

And there is "someone or something" meaning your belief is on a journey to attain a perfect conclusion of what that someone or something is . Right ?
No. I believe in the imperfection of things, if things are to be perfect, believe and wonders will have no meaning. Even GOD will be useless.. So my belief is in a state of constant variation...
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by Omotayor123(f): 11:44am On Sep 06, 2015
Sure... If you no support your church member who you wan support tongue
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:56am On Sep 06, 2015
Freemanan:

GOD IS EVERYTHING MATE. EVERYTHING!

Calm down . You didnt answer my question .

1.Energy is in everything , so is God energy . Yes or No ?
2. So God cannot be a Supreme Being and be everywhere ? ( Omnipresence)

No. I believe in the imperfection of things, if things are to be perfect, believe and wonders will have no meaning. Even GOD will be useless.. So my belief is in a state of constant variation...

So at some point in life or in the existence of the universe can perfection be achieved by the power or will of "God" . Yes or No ?
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by Nobody: 12:05pm On Sep 06, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:

Calm down . You didnt answer my question .
1.Energy is in everything , so is God energy . Yes or No ?
2. So God cannot be a Supreme Being and be everywhere ? ( Omnipresence)
GOD IS EVERYTHING... ENERGY IS PART OF EVERYTHING.




So at some point in life or in the existence of the universe can perfection be achieved by the power or will of "God" . Yes or No ?
The problem is that you keep personifying GOD.
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by ShayGirl(f): 12:20pm On Sep 06, 2015
Its already certain that if it isnt announced in church to support a member, members will still support their fellow members including pastors if nt with their votes or money, but within their hearts, they want their members to win.....

So which is now better, announcing it openly or going to do d opposite of what they preach
When no human watches??
I mean what were we given talents/gifts for, if not to showcase them..and if dis is d case, why cant we support those with these talents??
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:27pm On Sep 06, 2015
Freemanan:

GOD IS EVERYTHING... ENERGY IS PART OF EVERYTHING.


The problem is that you keep personifying GOD.

Oh ...lol ... I now get it there are no personal characteristics for your concept of God .

1. Since when did you become a pantheist ? Like how long ?

2. When you mean everything - organic and inorganic ?
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by Nobody: 12:46pm On Sep 06, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


Oh ...lol ... I now get it there are no personal characteristics for your concept of God .

1. Since when did you become a pantheist ? Like how long ?
Since I can remember... Tho I had Christian background.

2. When you mean everything - organic and inorganic ?
Yes...
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by ikorodureporta: 3:32pm On Sep 06, 2015
ShayGirl:
Its already certain that if it isnt announced in church to support a member, members will still support their fellow members including pastors if nt with their votes or money, but within their hearts, they want their members to win.....

So which is now better, announcing it openly or going to do d opposite of what they preach
When no human watches??
I mean what were we given talents/gifts for, if not to showcase them..and if dis is d case, why cant we support those with these talents??












...then, whtz d positn of d church concerning 'worldly' music?

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Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by ikorodureporta: 10:03pm On Sep 20, 2015
Now, see her singing 'fuji gabbage' (sept.20)......

Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by ikorodureporta: 7:58am On Sep 22, 2015
Omotayor123:
Sure... If you no support your church member who you wan support tongue

Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by johndwayy(m): 8:31am On Sep 22, 2015
@shaygirl...are you joking with this your comment or you are for real? You've been asked, what then is the position of the church concerning worldly songs? How can we distinguish the church from the world? This is not a moral reasoning, but something that bothers about faith and religion. Project fame is not a Christian program, so how can a church be seen campaigning for someone who's involved with project fame? I'm not saying one is not free to exhibit his/her talent or gift, but it does not concern the church to involve itself in such matters. I fear for rccg after the exit of Pastor E.A.Adeboye.quote author=ShayGirl post=37727820]Its already certain that if it isnt announced in church to support a member, members will still support their fellow members including pastors if nt with their votes or money, but within their hearts, they want their members to win.....

So which is now better, announcing it openly or going to do d opposite of what they preach
When no human watches??
I mean what were we given talents/gifts for, if not to showcase them..and if dis is d case, why cant we support those with these talents??











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Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by ShayGirl(f): 11:34am On Sep 22, 2015
johndwayy:
@shaygirl...are you joking with this your comment or you are for real? You've been asked, what then is the position of the church concerning worldly songs? How can we distinguish the church from the world? This is not a moral reasoning, but something that bothers about faith and religion. Project fame is not a Christian program, so how can a church be seen campaigning for someone who's involved with project fame? I'm not saying one is not free to exhibit his/her talent or gift, but it does not concern the church to involve itself in such matters. I fear for rccg after the exit of Pastor E.A.Adeboye.quote author=ShayGirl post=37727820]Its already certain that if it isnt announced in church to support a member, members will still support their fellow members including pastors if nt with their votes or money, but within their hearts, they want their members to win.....

So which is now better, announcing it openly or going to do d opposite of what they preach
When no human watches??
I mean what were we given talents/gifts for, if not to showcase them..and if dis is d case, why cant we support those with these talents??



That was jex ma opinion tho......Noted











Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by johndwayy(m): 4:03pm On Sep 22, 2015
@shaygirl..... i perfectly understand what you are saying and I'm not against people showcasing their gifts and talents, but what I'm saying is that mtn project fame is not a Christian program and it shouldn't have been the business of the church to advertise or campaign for their member about project fame in church, simply beacuse the person fellowships there and is trying to express his/her gift or talent.
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by ShayGirl(f): 4:22pm On Sep 22, 2015
johndwayy:
@shaygirl..... i perfectly understand what you are saying and I'm not against people showcasing their gifts and talents, but what I'm saying is that mtn project fame is not a Christian program and it shouldn't have been the business of the church to advertise or campaign for their member about project fame in church, simply beacuse the person fellowships there and is trying to express his/her gift or talent.


I see....They shouldnt campaign in church but can campaign outside the church right?
Re: Church Asks Congregation To Support Theirs In MTN Project Fame... by johndwayy(m): 5:59pm On Sep 22, 2015
ShayGirl:



I see....They shouldnt campaign in church but can campaign outside the church right?
Yes... And this is not hypocrisy. The church is the house of God, and it should be just for the purpose of worshipping and glorifying God. They can go to their respective houses and vote for their member if they want to, but doing it in church is inappropriate and quite appalling. Imagine an Imam announcing about this in a mosque, it's not done. Na wa for we xtians oh. Anyway sha, these are the last days - it's not surprising

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