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Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:49pm On Sep 11, 2015
dmandy:


Dodge?

Lolx.

your problem is differentiating between before and to.



My guy is leaving the bible and bringing English language. cool
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 11:49pm On Sep 11, 2015
Jeromejnr:


So how was it consecrated?

You mean your body is not His temple. So why not bow down to dmandy, since his body also is consecrated.

Read first, do you bow down before your pastor before pray?
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 11:50pm On Sep 11, 2015
Jeromejnr:

My guy is leaving the bible and bringing English language. cool
Back to bible
Joshua bowed before the ark.
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:50pm On Sep 11, 2015
dmandy:


Read first, do you bow down before your pastor before pray?

Nope!
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:51pm On Sep 11, 2015
dmandy:


Back to bible

Joshua bowed before the ark.

We know that.

You said you don't. That its only a reminder. Now you are saying you do. undecided
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 11:55pm On Sep 11, 2015
VLadipo:


hahaha

Stop trying to be clever by half.

So far, I've raised 2 valid infallibles instances where our Lord Jesus 'disowned' Mary as His mother:

The first is in Matthew 12:46-50 where our Lord categorically pointed at his disciples and whosoever will do His will as His mother and brethren.
So far, you havent been able to fault this point.

The second is in Luke 11:27-28 where our Lord deflected the blessing directed at Mary and redirected it to whosoever will hear the word of God and keep it.
The only fault you can find with this is the 'yea'.
Whereas, after the 'yea' comes 'rather'.
Does 'yea' and 'rather' go together?
It tells you that the 'yea' in that passage didnt mean 'yes'. It is similar to the 'yea' in Matthew 26:60, Matthew 21:16, Luke 24:22 etc
So you see, I am still on point.

And how can a disciple not be a follower?

Waoh! y don't you quote me in full.

Does yes and rather go together? Yes they just did in your passage.

Jesus disowned his mother and asked you to honour yours. Sorry.

The yea does not mean yes? you are joker

'But he said, Yes rather, blessed are they that
hear the word of God, and keep it.' AKJV
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by VLadipo: 12:00am On Sep 12, 2015
dmandy:

Waoh! y don't you quote me in full.
Does yes and rather go together? Yes they just did in your passage.
Jesus disowned his mother and asked you to honour yours. Sorry.
Are Jesus and I in the same league? Are you saying God is obliged to obey the 10 commandments?
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 12:01am On Sep 12, 2015
Jeromejnr:


We know that.

You said you don't. That its only a reminder. Now you are saying you do. undecided

I said I don't bow to any images. Quote where O said otherwise.
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 12:02am On Sep 12, 2015
VLadipo:

Are Jesus and I in the same league? Are you saying God is obliged to obey the 10 commandments?
Hahahahahahqhhahahqhqhha.
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 12:04am On Sep 12, 2015
dmandy:


I said I don't bow to any images. Quote where O said otherwise.

But you prostrate.

pros·trate your·selfreflexive verb lie face downward: to lie prone or stretched out with the face downward or bow very low, e.g. in worship or submission
Microsoft® Encarta® 2009. © 1993-2008 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by VLadipo: 12:04am On Sep 12, 2015
dmandy:

Hahahahahahqhhahahqhqhha.
What's funny?
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 12:05am On Sep 12, 2015
Jeromejnr:


Nope!


How honest can u be?

So when your pastor says in church 'bow your head in prayer' you run to your car steering.

nawa o
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 12:07am On Sep 12, 2015
Jeromejnr:


But you prostrate.

pros·trate your·selfreflexive verb lie face downward: to lie prone or stretched out with the face downward or bow very low, e.g. in worship or submission
Microsoft® Encarta® 2009. © 1993-2008 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.



I maintain I don't prostrate to any image.

Quote where I said otherwise.
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 12:07am On Sep 12, 2015
dmandy:


How honest can u be?

So when your pastor says in church 'bow your head in prayer' you run to your car steering.

nawa o

Now you debate like a child.

When a pastor say bow your head in prayer:

1. Do people kneel before the pastor?

2. And do people pray to the pastor?
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 12:07am On Sep 12, 2015
VLadipo:


What's funny?

You sir

Your God gives you commandments which he cannot obey. He must be a wicked god ooo run for ur lyf o
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 12:09am On Sep 12, 2015
dmandy:


I maintain I don't prostrate to any image.

Quote where I said otherwise.

Why? Jos 7:6 Then Joshua fell to the ground face down before the ark of the lord and remained there till evening.

is that idolatry?

What did you imply here?

italo said he does, the Catholic website said they do. So why only you?
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 12:09am On Sep 12, 2015
Jeromejnr:

Now you debate like a child.
When a pastor say bow your head in prayer:
1. Do people kneel before the pastor?
2. And do people pray to the pastor?

English hard.
1. yes... before means in front of
2. No, some pray to God.
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 12:12am On Sep 12, 2015
dmandy:



English hard.

1. yes... before means in front of

2. No, some pray to God.

So you contradict yourself. You said you don't bow and you are trying to give examples to give reasons why you should bow.
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 12:12am On Sep 12, 2015
Jeromejnr:



What did you imply here?
italo said he does, the Catholic website said they do. So why only you?

Quote where ur Catholic site or Italo said they bow to statue.
Before means in front of... that what I imply there.
How I'm loving this.
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 12:14am On Sep 12, 2015
Jeromejnr:


So you contradict yourself. You said you don't bow and you are trying to give examples to give reasons why you should bow.

I still maintain dmandy and italo and Catholics don't bow to statues. We bow to God.
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 12:16am On Sep 12, 2015
dmandy:



Quote where ur Catholic site or Italo said they bow to statue.

Before means in front of... that what I imply there.

How I'm loving this.

That's the thing you are not understanding. You can't bow to a car or a Nepa pole. But u can bow before any if those, worship is truth and spirit.

you should know that.

So you said you can bow to it as far as you do it in spirit and truth.

Then it's not idolatry if I bow to God before a statue that has been consecrated by the power of the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit dwells on all our sacramentals...just like he dwelled on the Ark.

That's italo.

Though bowing can be used as a posture in worship, not all bowing is worship. In Japan, people show respect by bowing in greeting (the equivalent of the Western handshake). Similarly, a person can kneel before a king without worshipping him as a god. In the same way, a Catholic who may kneel in front of a statue while praying isn’t worshipping the statue or even praying to it

Your Catholic site
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 12:20am On Sep 12, 2015
dmandy:


I still maintain dmandy and italo and Catholics don't bow to statues. We bow to God.

See what your fellow said.

hmm... if truly that is your position, then I would say you lack faith(#justsaying)
so we should not bow down to the statures we have today because we do not feel the presence of God in them or because there is no mercy seat beside them or because we have not heard God speak from them?
well, in that case we should not bother being Christians, we should throw our bibles away, since God has not spoken to some of us directly and we should not believe what is written in the bible or take it to heart, we should only see it as a best seller novel
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 12:25am On Sep 12, 2015
Jeromejnr:




So you said you can bow to it as far as you do it in spirit and truth.



That's italo.



Your Catholic site

Your problem with English is easy to understand.

1. I said you can bow before your car or any of those. Not to them. Read.

2. Italo clearly said 'bow to God before a statue' the same manner you bow before yr car wheel.

3. your Catholic said 'kneel in front of' thats same thing as before. The same manner you kneel before your pastor.

English hard o. my brother.... even for here.
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 12:27am On Sep 12, 2015
dmandy:


Your problem with English is easy to understand.

1. I said you can bow before your car or any of those. Not to them. Read.

2. Italo clearly said 'bow to God before a statue' the same manner you bow before yr car wheel.

3. your Catholic said 'kneel in front of' thats same thing as before. The same manner you kneel before your pastor.

English hard o. my brother.... even for here.


The thing is, you said you don't bow down at all isn't it?
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 12:28am On Sep 12, 2015
Jeromejnr:


The thing is, you said you don't bow down at all isn't it?

Quote dmandy for free.
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 12:33am On Sep 12, 2015
dmandy:


Quote dmandy.

BTW, your Before and to english does not do you justice.

"'As surely as I live,' says the Lord, 'every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God.'"

"By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked: Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear."

"Yes, all kings shall fall down before him: all nations shall serve him.""

So bowing before and bowing to, there's no difference.
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 12:36am On Sep 12, 2015
dmandy:


Quote dmandy for free.

Thy quote.

You don't seem to understand it do you. We don't bow to statues.

Is God everywhere?
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 12:38am On Sep 12, 2015
Jeromejnr:


BTW, your Before and to english does not do you justice.

"'As surely as I live,' says the Lord, 'every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God.'"

"By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked: Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear."

"Yes, all kings shall fall down before him: all nations shall serve him.""

So bowing before and bowing to, there's no difference.

Ok sir,

next time you before your car steering or before your elder, know what u are doing. Idolatry.
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by italo: 12:38am On Sep 12, 2015
Jeromejnr:

Thy quote.

You're still finding it difficult to spot the difference between "to" and "before?"
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by italo: 12:40am On Sep 12, 2015
Jeromejnr:


BTW, your Before and to english does not do you justice.

"'As surely as I live,' says the Lord, 'every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God.'"

"By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked: Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear."

"Yes, all kings shall fall down before him: all nations shall serve him.""

So bowing before and bowing to, there's no difference.

Tell that to Yorubas that prostrate and bow before elders
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 12:40am On Sep 12, 2015
Jeromejnr:


Thy quote.


sure bro.

we don't bow to statues. I said it. Now you are free to quote me anywhere even in ur church.
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 12:41am On Sep 12, 2015
italo:


You're still finding it difficult to spot the difference between "to" and "before?"

you have no say in this. You just said you just messed it all up for your guy.

And he just gave up on the matter.

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