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Re: Women On Men Wears. by dayokanu(m): 3:26am On Apr 19, 2009
Jesus wore a robe when he was alive which is more like a Gown and not a trouser
Re: Women On Men Wears. by realpastor: 6:27am On Apr 19, 2009
Is that your understanding?
Re: Women On Men Wears. by eghosaobas: 9:09am On Apr 19, 2009
Pls dont let us call spade a cutlass.
Re: Women On Men Wears. by neowelsh(m): 4:16pm On Apr 19, 2009
@all
the bibles says women should not put on things that pattern unto men, trousers were not mentions, what u should urself is, what are the things that pattern onto men, also you can do research on who produced trousers and who it was produced for. you see no answer.
during moses time it is believed women are unclean things, because of their mensuration, so as a married man you wife cannot wear you cloth, because its beleive by doing so she has transfer some unclean stuff to him, as aresult that now brought about women not to wear the things of their husband. whosever is taking of wearing of trousers, painting of lips etc is a religious man, my advise is instead of spending time on those stuff, why not look for ways to gain perfection. afterall in the days of old in this part of the country it is believe that jass band, guiter, piano, are instrument used by sinners musicians, but today its used in churches hope.
you can only complain when the trousers are not wore in a decent way, as for me. immediately u talk of trousers, hair etc instead of master Jesus. am fucking out of you church. lol
Re: Women On Men Wears. by marvisken: 5:03pm On Apr 19, 2009
I hear you.
Re: Women On Men Wears. by eghosaobas: 6:34pm On Apr 20, 2009
You people are saying that during Jesus time they were using gown, hope you ve not forgoten that under the gowns lies the trousers.
Re: Women On Men Wears. by domwas2(m): 4:21pm On Apr 21, 2009
Hello read
Deut.22:5
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Re: Women On Men Wears. by segyemaro(m): 5:07pm On Apr 21, 2009
We have read that passage time and after time,but our ladies are still doubting it.
Re: Women On Men Wears. by Lady2(f): 11:00pm On Apr 21, 2009
eghosaobas:

You people are saying that during Jesus time they were using gown, hope you ve not forgoten that under the gowns lies the trousers.

same thing for women too. actually it was their undergarments for both men and women, so ur point is?
Re: Women On Men Wears. by Sissy3(f): 1:46am On Apr 22, 2009
This is a completely overflogged irrelevant issue.

The simple fact is this:
The trousers men wear are men's clothing.
The trousers women wear are women's clothing.

Who on earth authorized trousers for men alone?

Where the man wears the trouser that is meant for a woman, he would be considered crazy,hence such can't and shouldn't happen.
Where the woman wears the trouser that is meant for a man, she would be considered to be out of her mind,hence such can't and shouldn't happen

Besides, trousers are easier to wear and handle for women when on the go as opposed to skirts.(mounting bikes,rising to elevated points,climbing,jumping or scaling obstacles)
So,all in all,this is a non existent issue.

The only things that should be issues in this respect are:
Are women being modest in the type of trousers they wear(form hugging,skin tight,body sculpting,panty/butt exposing trousers)?
Are women being modest in the type of skirts they wear(hip hugging, bottom enhancing,thigh grasping,short length,high slit skirts)?
Are women being modest in the types of tops they wear(cleavage revolution,bust gripping,see-through tops)?

exactly!
Re: Women On Men Wears. by eghosaobas: 7:13am On Apr 22, 2009
Women wears are wrappers and skirts, not trouser. Since women started wearing trouser and find comfort in it,they are diplomtic and dragging it with men. Men that tie wrapper in niger delta do so cos its their traditional wear. Have you ever seen an hausa or yoruba man on wrapper? No cause its not their custom to do so.
Re: Women On Men Wears. by Lady2(f): 4:23pm On Apr 22, 2009
eghosaobas:

Women wears are wrappers and skirts, not trouser. Since women started wearing trouser and find comfort in it,they are diplomtic and dragging it with men. Men that tie wrapper in niger delta do so cos its their traditional wear. Have you ever seen an hausa or yoruba man on wrapper? No cause its not their custom to do so.

Wrong in certain regions it is so, however in other parts of the world wrapper isn't even known, and skirts aren't just worn by women they are worn by men too and trousers aren't just worn by men they are worn by women also and those are their traditional wears.

I as a woman personally would only wear skirts, I still wear pants sometimes, but I am slowly making the transition, I do so because pants for women are not the traditional wears for my people. However you cannot tell a woman in the middle east or somewhere else that has women wearing pants traditionally that they aren't supposed to wear them. You also cannot tell men in places where their traditional wears are skirts to not wear them.

Just as women are not supposed to wear men's wears then men are not supposed to wear women's wears.

If wrappers are for women then those men shouldn't be wearing them. You can't have it both ways. choose one.
Re: Women On Men Wears. by domwas2(m): 12:00pm On Apr 23, 2009
Women should not wear men's clothes
Deut. 22:5
"A woman shall not wear man’s clothing, nor shall a man put on a woman’s clothing; for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God," (Deut. 22:5).

This admonition most probably deals with the mandate to maintain the distinctions between male and female functions and roles. "Cross-dressing" seems to be the issue here. The man is not to be feminine and the woman is not to be masculine. Neither is to assume the manerisms and role of the other. Also, the created order distinguished between male and female very clearly and adopting the close of the opposite sex would blur this line and might even encourage homosexuality.

"The same Hebrew word translated detests (to ebah, lit., ”a detestable thing“; kjv, ”an abomination“) is used to describe God’s view of homosexuality (Lev. 18:22; 20:13). Also some evidence exists that transvestism may have been connected with the worship of pagan deities. Since this law was related to the divine order of Creation and since God detests anyone who does this, believers today also ought to heed this command."1
Re: Women On Men Wears. by realpastor: 8:13pm On Apr 23, 2009
Na wah,different interpretations.
Re: Women On Men Wears. by segyemaro(m): 7:43am On Apr 24, 2009
I dont think women would want to drop the idea of wearing trousers,cos its already part of them. They wont mind to go on hunger strike than to stop wearing trousers. All i know is that its not biblical for a woman to put on men wears. Our so called pastors would not preach this so as not to lose their members. They are all caused by them bicos even their dear wives cant do without wearing trousers. Thats why God said that His judgement would start from the church.
Re: Women On Men Wears. by eghosaobas: 8:53am On Apr 24, 2009
May God help us
Re: Women On Men Wears. by saintade01(m): 10:05am On Apr 24, 2009
This is a completely overflogged irrelevant issue.

The simple fact is this:
The trousers men wear are men's clothing.
The trousers women wear are women's clothing.

Who on earth authorized trousers for men alone?

Where the man wears the trouser that is meant for a woman, he would be considered crazy,hence such can't and shouldn't happen.
Where the woman wears the trouser that is meant for a man, she would be considered to be out of her mind,hence such can't and shouldn't happen

Besides, trousers are easier to wear and handle for women when on the go as opposed to skirts.(mounting bikes,rising to elevated points,climbing,jumping or scaling obstacles)
So,all in all,this is a non existent issue.

The only things that should be issues in this respect are:
Are women being modest in the type of trousers they wear(form hugging,skin tight,body sculpting,panty/butt exposing trousers)?
Are women being modest in the type of skirts they wear(hip hugging, bottom enhancing,thigh grasping,short length,high slit skirts)?
Are women being modest in the types of tops they wear(cleavage revolution,bust gripping,see-through tops)?



THATS JUST IT.
Re: Women On Men Wears. by realpastor: 10:15am On Apr 24, 2009
Always look for excuses.
Re: Women On Men Wears. by ttalks(m): 11:02am On Apr 24, 2009
segyemaro:

I dont think women would want to drop the idea of wearing trousers,cos its already part of them. They wont mind to go on hunger strike than to stop wearing trousers. All i know is that its not biblical for a woman to put on men wears. Our so called pastors would not preach this so as not to lose their members. They are all caused by them bicos even their dear wives cant do without wearing trousers. Thats why God said that His judgement would start from the church.

Segyemaro,

You amaze me sometimes with ur logic.
It's so easy for u to say that tithes are of the law and find no place in the new covenant(which I agree by the way), but it is not easy for u to see that the commandment in the bible forbidding women wearing men's stuff and vice versa is also part of the law and not in the new covenant.

The new covenant preaches moderation and modesty in everything; dressing included.
You CANNOT tell me or any other person that all the trousers women put on are immodest.
There are modest trousers which they(women put on) or modest ways of putting them on,
and there are immodest trousers and immodest ways of putting them on.
That is just the case.

1Timothy 2:9
(9) In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

The above is the verse in the new covenant suggesting how Christian women should dress. It does not in any way condemn modest trousers unless you have very good evidence to prove that there is nothing like modest trousers or modest ways of putting on trousers as regards women.
What it does condemn are immodest trousers,skirts,tops,etc.
Re: Women On Men Wears. by segyemaro(m): 2:21pm On Apr 24, 2009
Ttalks is there any modesty in women trousers? All women trousers are figured tight,that is either showing the shape of the hips or showing the bulging of the pubic region that will clearly show the V. Shape of that region. I am yet to see a modest trouser in women. This is a serious issue, i will if you can educate me the more on this.
Re: Women On Men Wears. by ttalks(m): 5:28pm On Apr 24, 2009
Now,Segyemaro,
the trousers u just described,if the woman/women wearing them put on tops or gowns over them that hide those features u highlighted, would u still have a problem?
Re: Women On Men Wears. by ttalks(m): 7:11pm On Apr 24, 2009


Now Segyemaro,
Would you call the trousers this lady above is wearing "not modest"?
Does it in any way highlight the features you mentioned?
Re: Women On Men Wears. by ttalks(m): 7:18pm On Apr 24, 2009


Segyemaro,
How about these ladies?
Aren't those feautures u're worried about covered?

Wouldn't u call these modest dressing/trousers or would u call them immodest?
Re: Women On Men Wears. by segyemaro(m): 9:38am On Apr 25, 2009
They are ok,but do most ladies wears these?
Re: Women On Men Wears. by auwal87(m): 10:00am On Apr 25, 2009
shocked
Re: Women On Men Wears. by ttalks(m): 7:44pm On Apr 25, 2009
segyemaro:

They are ok,but do most ladies wears these?

Now you agree that they are ok.
So therefore, the issue should not be:"Women should not put on trousers".

Rather, the issue should be:"Women who put on trousers should wear them in modest manners".

Modesty is the issue, not the attire.

I could highlight an example:

If a lady puts on a bra and a panty and goes out in the streets like that, she'd be considered crazy,called a slut,etc.

But would that make the attire(bra and panty) immodest/sinful attires to wear?
Of course not.

Now,if this same lady were to put on the same bra and panty but this time under regular clothes and then go out in the street; she'd be treated as a normal human being.

So, the problem is never the attire but the manner in which it is put on.
Re: Women On Men Wears. by tubonimi: 7:53pm On Apr 25, 2009
You are better off spending your time studying God's Word than arguing about some unnessary issues. If you answer these questions correctly then the answer of your question is obvious. Did the bible in any portion mention "trouser"? where did it ever say that "skirts" are for ladies? You see, we have left people who are unschooled to interprete the bible for too long and they come up with all sort of jagons. Why do you brush your teeth, did the bible ask you to? In the days's of old, they only wore garments, Jesus wore a gown, was it sin? You choose a portion of scripture you are not farmilair with and interprete it wrongly. If you study Deut. 22 where you pick up these thoughts from, you'ld also notice that it said you should not plant divers crops on one farm, today you have people plant yam, cassava, vegitable and all sorts on one farm; it that sin? It also said if you are wearing a particular kind of clothe it should be thesame fabric all over, eg: if you are wearing a jeans even the pocket should be jeans: you should also not use other materials for landing in your clothes, if its silk, everything has to be silk. The law also says when you are in the toilet you must face a particular place otherwise you are sinning. Get to know what the Word talks about, it is no sin for a woman to wear trousers, its even a more better clothe for her, as it makes her more free. She can jump on any Okada and not mind if her pants are showing. lol
Re: Women On Men Wears. by eghosaobas: 8:50pm On Apr 25, 2009
Na wa
Re: Women On Men Wears. by segyemaro(m): 6:14pm On Apr 28, 2009
ok oooooooooo
Re: Women On Men Wears. by topeokunol: 8:26pm On May 02, 2009
can women realy stop wearing trousers?
Re: Women On Men Wears. by bluesky4(f): 7:24pm On May 05, 2009
Now, commense sense will show that in some cultures men wear skirts and in some cultrures women wear trousers. Now IMO the underlying issue is simple, it is about cross dressing. A man should not go to a store and by a womans skirt, top and even womens trousers, and vise vera, a woman should not be wearing trousers for men, shirts for men. These were the days where simple sex reasignment was not available, and cross dressing was an issue.
Re: Women On Men Wears. by eghosaobas: 7:20pm On May 18, 2009
topeokunol:

can women realy stop wearing trousers?
no its very impossible for women to drop the idea of wearing trousers.

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