madjnr:
Is there no Christians out there

Princewell2012:


Hmmmm.. are you a christian

So lets start from there.

mrZENographer:
its baseless to argue with an unbeliever on bible inconsistencies. They just need to be told the truth. If it enter ehn, if it doesnt ehn.
Only the Holyghost can complete the work.

Lets start from here muslim brother. Jesus died for you so that you will not go to hellfire.. Jesus resurrected so that you will live with him forever in heaven... If you believed and followd him.

madjnr:


Am a student of science... I don't believe things without proof... How can you defend those contradicting verses... Cod they clearly show the Bible is not from God... Why will God contradict himself ?

mayorall:



Please don't make mistake.

When you read bible, it will tell you the gospel of Christ according to look, according John, and many more.


The Bible is the Christian manual, loaded with God's word to counter every situations of life, I meant all.

In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and God is the word. Please read with divine wisdom.

mayorall:



Please don't make mistake.

When you read bible, it will tell you the gospel of Christ according to look, according John, and many more.


The Bible is the Christian manual, loaded with God's word to counter every situations of life, I meant all.

In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and God is the word. Please read with divine wisdom.

Alphaoscar:





There are lots of contradictions in both the Bible and Quran. While the Muslims have been doing their bests to either ignore or pretend as if they didn't see the controversial verses in Qur'an the Christians have been deploying all manners of tactics to give the controversial verses in the Bible different interpretations .



What you read in plain black-and-white they will tell you that is not what God is saying in that particular area and they will give it their own interpretations as if they wrote the book themselves or they were there when God was writing the Books. Why should the word of God be cumbersome to understand and people have to give it their own sentimental meaning as it suit them? Even all these criminal Alfas, Imams and Pastors now depend on the holy books to defend their evil deeds.


Ordinarily I don't like dabbling into religious stuffs but seen your comments on all these controversies just forced me to chip in this.



Ire oooooo

madjnr:



Hi... Right now... Am studying all Scriptures... I mean all the religion... Do you agree that there's a contradiction in the Bible ??

malvisguy212:
6.Jehoachin's father,Madehim, became an unofficial co-ruler at the age of eight to train him! This was followed with Jehoachin becoming officially the king at his father's death at 18 years of age!
7.Two different times
8.It is quite possible that both authors may have described two different incidents, though by the same man, or one author may have only mentioned in part what the other author mentions in full.
9.you should've should have continued reading on further to 1 Chronicles 15, as he would then have seen that David brought the Ark after defeating the Philistines. The reason for this is that the Israelites moved the Ark of the covenant twice. The first time, they moved it from Baal, prior to the defeat of the Philistines, as we see in 2 Samuel 5 and 6 and in 1 Chronicles 15. Once the prophet Samuel narrates David’s victory over the Philistines, he tells us about both times when the Ark was moved. However in 1 Chronicles, the order is as follows: the Ark was first moved from baal; then David defeated
the Philistines; and finally, the Ark was
moved from the House of Obed-Edom.
Therefore the two accounts are not
contradictory at all. What we have here is simply one prophet choosing to give us the complete history of the Ark at once (rather than referring to it later) and another presenting the history in a
different way. In both cases the timing of events is the same.

The same could be said of the Qur’an. In Surah 2 we are introduced to the fall of Adam, then God’s mercy is shown to the Israelites, followed by Pharaoh’s drowning, followed by Moses and the
Golden calf, followed by the Israelites
complaint about food and water, and
then we are introduced to the account of the golden calf again. Following this, we read about Moses and Jesus,then we
read about Moses and the golden calf,
and then about Solomon and Abraham.
If one wants to talk about chronology,
what does Moses have to do with Jesus,
or Solomon with Abraham?
Chronologically the surah should have
begun with Adam’s fall, then moved to
Cain and Abel, Enoch, Abraham, Lot,
Isaac, Jacob and Esau, Joseph, the sons
of Israel and Moses, in that order. If such a blatant chronological mix-up can be found in this sura of the Qur’an, then
madjnr would do well to explain it
before criticizing what they deem to be
an error in the Bible.
10.there is no contradiction here, the problem is the question you ask. Genesis 7:2 says Noah was to bring in 7 pairs of 'clean’ animals AND 2 pairs of every kind of ‘unclean’ animal.

madjnr:
Is there no Christians out there

madjnr:
Is there no Christians out there

madjnr:


Am a student of science... I don't believe things without proof... How can you defend those contradicting verses... Cod they clearly show the Bible is not from God... Why will God contradict himself ?

malvisguy212:
Madjnr.
1.David was looking back over his brilliant conquests, which had brought the Canaanite, Syrian, and Phoenician kingdoms into a state of vassalage and dependency on Israel. He had an attitude of pride and self-admiration for his achievements, and was thinking more in terms of armaments and troops than in terms of the mercies of God.
To conduct the census is against the will of God and if David conduct the census it will bring him on his knell to God ,that is why God allowed him to conduct it.just like he allowed satan to tempt job.
2.there are two things in mind when the census is conducted,the 1 Chronicles 21:5
figure included all the available men of
fighting age, whether battle-seasoned or
not, whereas the 2 Samuel 24:9 account
is speaking only of those who were ready
for battle. J
3Observe that 1 Chronicles 21:6 clearly
states that Joab did not complete the
numbering, as he had not yet taken a
census of the tribe of Benjamin, nor that of Levi’s either, due to the fact that David came under conviction about completing the census at all. Thus the different numbers indicate the inclusion or exclusion of particular unspecified
groups in the nation. We find another
reference to this in 1 Chronicles 27:23-24 where it states that David did not include those twenty years old and younger, and that since Joab did not finish the census the number was not recorded in King David’s Chronicle.
The procedure for conducting the census had been to start with the trans-
Jordanian tribes (2 Samuel 24:5) and
then shift to the northern most tribe of
Dan and work southward towards
Jerusalem (verse 7). The numbering of
Benjamin, therefore, would have come
last. Hence Benjamin would not be
included with the total for Israel or of
that for Judah, either. In the case of 2
Samuel 24,the figure for Judah included
the already known figure of 30,000
troops mustered by Benjamin. Hence the total of 500,000 included the Benjamite contingent.
4. The Septuagint accurately states three years for both verses
5. In 2 Chronicles 22:9 Ahaziah is said
to be "the son of Jehoshaphat" and Jehoshaphat is said to be "the king of Israel" (2 Chronicles 21:2). But Jehoshaphat was king of Judah, was he not (1 Kings 22)? Now, hold that thought for a moment. In addition to this,
Ahaziah was also "son in law" to the house of Ahab (2 Kings 8:27). Question: How does Ahaziah become a "son in law" to the house of Ahab when he married Zibiah of Beersheba (2
Chronicles 24:1)? He didn't marry any of Ahab's daughters or Omri's daughters. But now look over at 1 Kings 22:26 and
notice that there's a man named "Joash" who is waiting in Israel to take over the dual kingdom if Ahab or Jehoshaphat gets killed (1 Kings 22:26,28,29, 34, 37). But he's only one year old and won't
ascend the throne until he's eight years old (2 Chronicles 24:1). Ahaziah had a son named Joash before Ahaziah ever sat on the throne of Judah. When
Ahab was killed, a different Ahaziah took over the throne of Israel (2 Kings 1), not the Ahaziah whose mother was the
daughter of Omri and who was said to be the son of Jehoshaphat--not the son of Ahab (2 Chronicles 22:9). Even
his other name appears in the list of Jehoshaphat's sons (2 Chronicles 21:2).
The Azariah in our problem, then, was not Jehoram's literal son, and obviously he was intended for the southern
throne (Judah) many years before he actually took the throne. His mother was
Athaliah, who was Omri's daughter; that is, she was Ahab's sister (1 Kings 16:29). If Ahaziah was her son and Jehoshaphat was his father, then when Jehoshaphat "joined affinity with Ahab" (2 Chronicles
18:1), this was more than just a military move. Jehoshaphat's title was "king of Israel" (2Chronicles 21:2), and this
signifies the ominous alliance, for Jehoram killed "divers of the princes of Israel." So if Ahab got killed, one of Jehoshaphat's kin could take over Israel; on the other hand, if Jehoshaphat died
in battle, then one of Ahab's kin could take over Judah when Jehoram was finished. And that's what happened. Ahaziah,after the death of Jehoshaphat,
is Ahab's nephew and a son in law to his household. He had to have married one of Ahab's daughters or granddaughters. Ahaziah is the step son or son in law to Jehoram. He was a
favorite to Omri because his mother was Omri's daughter. He was anointed, like David, years before he actually began
to reign, even though he was the king by anointing. He was undoubtedly anointed at age 22 and upon the death of his predecessor, assumed the
throne and actual rulership at age 42.

malvisguy212:
Madjnr.
1.David was looking back over his brilliant conquests, which had brought the Canaanite, Syrian, and Phoenician kingdoms into a state of vassalage and dependency on Israel. He had an attitude of pride and self-admiration for his achievements, and was thinking more in terms of armaments and troops than in terms of the mercies of God.
To conduct the census is against the will of God and if David conduct the census it will bring him on his knell to God ,that is why God allowed him to conduct it.just like he allowed satan to tempt job.
2.there are two things in mind when the census is conducted,the 1 Chronicles 21:5
figure included all the available men of
fighting age, whether battle-seasoned or
not, whereas the 2 Samuel 24:9 account
is speaking only of those who were ready
for battle. J
3Observe that 1 Chronicles 21:6 clearly
states that Joab did not complete the
numbering, as he had not yet taken a
census of the tribe of Benjamin, nor that of Levi’s either, due to the fact that David came under conviction about completing the census at all. Thus the different numbers indicate the inclusion or exclusion of particular unspecified
groups in the nation. We find another
reference to this in 1 Chronicles 27:23-24 where it states that David did not include those twenty years old and younger, and that since Joab did not finish the census the number was not recorded in King David’s Chronicle.
The procedure for conducting the census had been to start with the trans-
Jordanian tribes (2 Samuel 24:5) and
then shift to the northern most tribe of
Dan and work southward towards
Jerusalem (verse 7). The numbering of
Benjamin, therefore, would have come
last. Hence Benjamin would not be
included with the total for Israel or of
that for Judah, either. In the case of 2
Samuel 24,the figure for Judah included
the already known figure of 30,000
troops mustered by Benjamin. Hence the total of 500,000 included the Benjamite contingent.
4. The Septuagint accurately states three years for both verses
5. In 2 Chronicles 22:9 Ahaziah is said
to be "the son of Jehoshaphat" and Jehoshaphat is said to be "the king of Israel" (2 Chronicles 21:2). But Jehoshaphat was king of Judah, was he not (1 Kings 22)? Now, hold that thought for a moment. In addition to this,
Ahaziah was also "son in law" to the house of Ahab (2 Kings 8:27). Question: How does Ahaziah become a "son in law" to the house of Ahab when he married Zibiah of Beersheba (2
Chronicles 24:1)? He didn't marry any of Ahab's daughters or Omri's daughters. But now look over at 1 Kings 22:26 and
notice that there's a man named "Joash" who is waiting in Israel to take over the dual kingdom if Ahab or Jehoshaphat gets killed (1 Kings 22:26,28,29, 34, 37). But he's only one year old and won't
ascend the throne until he's eight years old (2 Chronicles 24:1). Ahaziah had a son named Joash before Ahaziah ever sat on the throne of Judah. When
Ahab was killed, a different Ahaziah took over the throne of Israel (2 Kings 1), not the Ahaziah whose mother was the
daughter of Omri and who was said to be the son of Jehoshaphat--not the son of Ahab (2 Chronicles 22:9). Even
his other name appears in the list of Jehoshaphat's sons (2 Chronicles 21:2).
The Azariah in our problem, then, was not Jehoram's literal son, and obviously he was intended for the southern
throne (Judah) many years before he actually took the throne. His mother was
Athaliah, who was Omri's daughter; that is, she was Ahab's sister (1 Kings 16:29). If Ahaziah was her son and Jehoshaphat was his father, then when Jehoshaphat "joined affinity with Ahab" (2 Chronicles
18:1), this was more than just a military move. Jehoshaphat's title was "king of Israel" (2Chronicles 21:2), and this
signifies the ominous alliance, for Jehoram killed "divers of the princes of Israel." So if Ahab got killed, one of Jehoshaphat's kin could take over Israel; on the other hand, if Jehoshaphat died
in battle, then one of Ahab's kin could take over Judah when Jehoram was finished. And that's what happened. Ahaziah,after the death of Jehoshaphat,
is Ahab's nephew and a son in law to his household. He had to have married one of Ahab's daughters or granddaughters. Ahaziah is the step son or son in law to Jehoram. He was a
favorite to Omri because his mother was Omri's daughter. He was anointed, like David, years before he actually began
to reign, even though he was the king by anointing. He was undoubtedly anointed at age 22 and upon the death of his predecessor, assumed the
throne and actual rulership at age 42.

Visitor700:


The prophet (peace be upon him) instituted the arrangement of the verses in their chapters.

‘Uthmaan ibn Abi’l-‘Aas that he said: “I was sitting with the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) when he fixed his gaze on something, then lowered his gaze until he was almost looking at the ground, then he gazed at something. He said, ‘Jibreel (peace be upon him) came to me and told me to put this aayah in this place in this soorah:

“Verily, Allâh enjoins Al-‘Adl (i.e. justice and worshipping none but Allâh Alone — Islâmic Monotheism) and Al-Ihsân [i.e. to be patient in performing your duties to Allâh, totally for Allah’s sake and in accordance with the Sunnah (legal ways) of the Prophet in a perfect manner], and giving (help) to kith and kin (i.e. all that Allâh has ordered you to give them, e.g., wealth, visiting, looking after them, or any other kind of help), and forbids Al-Fahshâ’ (i.e. all evil deeds, e.g. illegal sexual acts, disobedience of parents, polytheism, to tell lies, to give false witness, to kill a life without right), and Al-Munkar (i.e. all that is prohibited by Islâmic law: polytheism of every kind, disbelief and every kind of evil deeds), and Al-Baghy (i.e. all kinds of oppression). He admonishes you, that you may take heed.” [al-Nahl 16:90]

(Imam Ahmad in al-Musnad [4/218])

sonmvayina:
There are bound to be inconsistences in the bible, one thing people fail to understand is that this stories is no bodies diary. these books existed as seperate stories and took generation before the priest started to write them down..and these stories change over time.. some times they will be edited by a new priest and more information added or taken out..most of these stories where written by Ezra during their time in exile.some of the things he wrote where off point and it was basically to rally the jews not to forget their heritage..and give them hope that yaweh has not deserted them..some priest where frauds and sometimes delibrately lied just to promote their office..like jerimaih said in chapter 8 verse 8 of the book bearing his name..most of these writting has been lost or damaged..and sometimes to creat new ones, the new copier had to make up his own stories..there is nothing divine about it..it is just an attempt by a people to pass on their culture to the future generation..

malvisguy212:
Madjnr.
1.David was looking back over his brilliant conquests, which had brought the Canaanite, Syrian, and Phoenician kingdoms into a state of vassalage and dependency on Israel. He had an attitude of pride and self-admiration for his achievements, and was thinking more in terms of armaments and troops than in terms of the mercies of God.
To conduct the census is against the will of God and if David conduct the census it will bring him on his knell to God ,that is why God allowed him to conduct it.just like he allowed satan to tempt job.
2.there are two things in mind when the census is conducted,the 1 Chronicles 21:5
figure included all the available men of
fighting age, whether battle-seasoned or
not, whereas the 2 Samuel 24:9 account
is speaking only of those who were ready
for battle. J
3Observe that 1 Chronicles 21:6 clearly
states that Joab did not complete the
numbering, as he had not yet taken a
census of the tribe of Benjamin, nor that of Levi’s either, due to the fact that David came under conviction about completing the census at all. Thus the different numbers indicate the inclusion or exclusion of particular unspecified
groups in the nation. We find another
reference to this in 1 Chronicles 27:23-24 where it states that David did not include those twenty years old and younger, and that since Joab did not finish the census the number was not recorded in King David’s Chronicle.
The procedure for conducting the census had been to start with the trans-
Jordanian tribes (2 Samuel 24:5) and
then shift to the northern most tribe of
Dan and work southward towards
Jerusalem (verse 7). The numbering of
Benjamin, therefore, would have come
last. Hence Benjamin would not be
included with the total for Israel or of
that for Judah, either. In the case of 2
Samuel 24,the figure for Judah included
the already known figure of 30,000
troops mustered by Benjamin. Hence the total of 500,000 included the Benjamite contingent.
4. The Septuagint accurately states three years for both verses
5. In 2 Chronicles 22:9 Ahaziah is said
to be "the son of Jehoshaphat" and Jehoshaphat is said to be "the king of Israel" (2 Chronicles 21:2). But Jehoshaphat was king of Judah, was he not (1 Kings 22)? Now, hold that thought for a moment. In addition to this,
Ahaziah was also "son in law" to the house of Ahab (2 Kings 8:27). Question: How does Ahaziah become a "son in law" to the house of Ahab when he married Zibiah of Beersheba (2
Chronicles 24:1)? He didn't marry any of Ahab's daughters or Omri's daughters. But now look over at 1 Kings 22:26 and
notice that there's a man named "Joash" who is waiting in Israel to take over the dual kingdom if Ahab or Jehoshaphat gets killed (1 Kings 22:26,28,29, 34, 37). But he's only one year old and won't
ascend the throne until he's eight years old (2 Chronicles 24:1). Ahaziah had a son named Joash before Ahaziah ever sat on the throne of Judah. When
Ahab was killed, a different Ahaziah took over the throne of Israel (2 Kings 1), not the Ahaziah whose mother was the
daughter of Omri and who was said to be the son of Jehoshaphat--not the son of Ahab (2 Chronicles 22:9). Even
his other name appears in the list of Jehoshaphat's sons (2 Chronicles 21:2).
The Azariah in our problem, then, was not Jehoram's literal son, and obviously he was intended for the southern
throne (Judah) many years before he actually took the throne. His mother was
Athaliah, who was Omri's daughter; that is, she was Ahab's sister (1 Kings 16:29). If Ahaziah was her son and Jehoshaphat was his father, then when Jehoshaphat "joined affinity with Ahab" (2 Chronicles
18:1), this was more than just a military move. Jehoshaphat's title was "king of Israel" (2Chronicles 21:2), and this
signifies the ominous alliance, for Jehoram killed "divers of the princes of Israel." So if Ahab got killed, one of Jehoshaphat's kin could take over Israel; on the other hand, if Jehoshaphat died
in battle, then one of Ahab's kin could take over Judah when Jehoram was finished. And that's what happened. Ahaziah,after the death of Jehoshaphat,
is Ahab's nephew and a son in law to his household. He had to have married one of Ahab's daughters or granddaughters. Ahaziah is the step son or son in law to Jehoram. He was a
favorite to Omri because his mother was Omri's daughter. He was anointed, like David, years before he actually began
to reign, even though he was the king by anointing. He was undoubtedly anointed at age 22 and upon the death of his predecessor, assumed the
throne and actual rulership at age 42.

malvisguy212:
6.Jehoachin's father,Madehim, became an unofficial co-ruler at the age of eight to train him! This was followed with Jehoachin becoming officially the king at his father's death at 18 years of age!
7.Two different times
8.It is quite possible that both authors may have described two different incidents, though by the same man, or one author may have only mentioned in part what the other author mentions in full.
9.you should've should have continued reading on further to 1 Chronicles 15, as he would then have seen that David brought the Ark after defeating the Philistines. The reason for this is that the Israelites moved the Ark of the covenant twice. The first time, they moved it from Baal, prior to the defeat of the Philistines, as we see in 2 Samuel 5 and 6 and in 1 Chronicles 15. Once the prophet Samuel narrates David’s victory over the Philistines, he tells us about both times when the Ark was moved. However in 1 Chronicles, the order is as follows: the Ark was first moved from baal; then David defeated
the Philistines; and finally, the Ark was
moved from the House of Obed-Edom.
Therefore the two accounts are not
contradictory at all. What we have here is simply one prophet choosing to give us the complete history of the Ark at once (rather than referring to it later) and another presenting the history in a
different way. In both cases the timing of events is the same.

The same could be said of the Qur’an. In Surah 2 we are introduced to the fall of Adam, then God’s mercy is shown to the Israelites, followed by Pharaoh’s drowning, followed by Moses and the
Golden calf, followed by the Israelites
complaint about food and water, and
then we are introduced to the account of the golden calf again. Following this, we read about Moses and Jesus,then we
read about Moses and the golden calf,
and then about Solomon and Abraham.
If one wants to talk about chronology,
what does Moses have to do with Jesus,
or Solomon with Abraham?
Chronologically the surah should have
begun with Adam’s fall, then moved to
Cain and Abel, Enoch, Abraham, Lot,
Isaac, Jacob and Esau, Joseph, the sons
of Israel and Moses, in that order. If such a blatant chronological mix-up can be found in this sura of the Qur’an, then
madjnr would do well to explain it
before criticizing what they deem to be
an error in the Bible.
10.there is no contradiction here, the problem is the question you ask. Genesis 7:2 says Noah was to bring in 7 pairs of 'clean’ animals AND 2 pairs of every kind of ‘unclean’ animal.

malvisguy212:
6.Jehoachin's father,Madehim, became an unofficial co-ruler at the age of eight to train him! This was followed with Jehoachin becoming officially the king at his father's death at 18 years of age!
7.Two different times
8.It is quite possible that both authors may have described two different incidents, though by the same man, or one author may have only mentioned in part what the other author mentions in full.
9.you should've should have continued reading on further to 1 Chronicles 15, as he would then have seen that David brought the Ark after defeating the Philistines. The reason for this is that the Israelites moved the Ark of the covenant twice. The first time, they moved it from Baal, prior to the defeat of the Philistines, as we see in 2 Samuel 5 and 6 and in 1 Chronicles 15. Once the prophet Samuel narrates David’s victory over the Philistines, he tells us about both times when the Ark was moved. However in 1 Chronicles, the order is as follows: the Ark was first moved from baal; then David defeated
the Philistines; and finally, the Ark was
moved from the House of Obed-Edom.
Therefore the two accounts are not
contradictory at all. What we have here is simply one prophet choosing to give us the complete history of the Ark at once (rather than referring to it later) and another presenting the history in a
different way. In both cases the timing of events is the same.

The same could be said of the Qur’an. In Surah 2 we are introduced to the fall of Adam, then God’s mercy is shown to the Israelites, followed by Pharaoh’s drowning, followed by Moses and the
Golden calf, followed by the Israelites
complaint about food and water, and
then we are introduced to the account of the golden calf again. Following this, we read about Moses and Jesus,then we
read about Moses and the golden calf,
and then about Solomon and Abraham.
If one wants to talk about chronology,
what does Moses have to do with Jesus,
or Solomon with Abraham?
Chronologically the surah should have
begun with Adam’s fall, then moved to
Cain and Abel, Enoch, Abraham, Lot,
Isaac, Jacob and Esau, Joseph, the sons
of Israel and Moses, in that order. If such a blatant chronological mix-up can be found in this sura of the Qur’an, then
madjnr would do well to explain it
before criticizing what they deem to be
an error in the Bible.
10.there is no contradiction here, the problem is the question you ask. Genesis 7:2 says Noah was to bring in 7 pairs of 'clean’ animals AND 2 pairs of every kind of ‘unclean’ animal.

malvisguy212:
6.Jehoachin's father,Madehim, became an unofficial co-ruler at the age of eight to train him! This was followed with Jehoachin becoming officially the king at his father's death at 18 years of age!
7.Two different times
8.It is quite possible that both authors may have described two different incidents, though by the same man, or one author may have only mentioned in part what the other author mentions in full.
9.you should've should have continued reading on further to 1 Chronicles 15, as he would then have seen that David brought the Ark after defeating the Philistines. The reason for this is that the Israelites moved the Ark of the covenant twice. The first time, they moved it from Baal, prior to the defeat of the Philistines, as we see in 2 Samuel 5 and 6 and in 1 Chronicles 15. Once the prophet Samuel narrates David’s victory over the Philistines, he tells us about both times when the Ark was moved. However in 1 Chronicles, the order is as follows: the Ark was first moved from baal; then David defeated
the Philistines; and finally, the Ark was
moved from the House of Obed-Edom.
Therefore the two accounts are not
contradictory at all. What we have here is simply one prophet choosing to give us the complete history of the Ark at once (rather than referring to it later) and another presenting the history in a
different way. In both cases the timing of events is the same.

The same could be said of the Qur’an. In Surah 2 we are introduced to the fall of Adam, then God’s mercy is shown to the Israelites, followed by Pharaoh’s drowning, followed by Moses and the
Golden calf, followed by the Israelites
complaint about food and water, and
then we are introduced to the account of the golden calf again. Following this, we read about Moses and Jesus,then we
read about Moses and the golden calf,
and then about Solomon and Abraham.
If one wants to talk about chronology,
what does Moses have to do with Jesus,
or Solomon with Abraham?
Chronologically the surah should have
begun with Adam’s fall, then moved to
Cain and Abel, Enoch, Abraham, Lot,
Isaac, Jacob and Esau, Joseph, the sons
of Israel and Moses, in that order. If such a blatant chronological mix-up can be found in this sura of the Qur’an, then
madjnr would do well to explain it
before criticizing what they deem to be
an error in the Bible.
10.there is no contradiction here, the problem is the question you ask. Genesis 7:2 says Noah was to bring in 7 pairs of 'clean’ animals AND 2 pairs of every kind of ‘unclean’ animal.

malvisguy212:
6.Jehoachin's father,Madehim, became an unofficial co-ruler at the age of eight to train him! This was followed with Jehoachin becoming officially the king at his father's death at 18 years of age!
7.Two different times
8.It is quite possible that both authors may have described two different incidents, though by the same man, or one author may have only mentioned in part what the other author mentions in full.
9.you should've should have continued reading on further to 1 Chronicles 15, as he would then have seen that David brought the Ark after defeating the Philistines. The reason for this is that the Israelites moved the Ark of the covenant twice. The first time, they moved it from Baal, prior to the defeat of the Philistines, as we see in 2 Samuel 5 and 6 and in 1 Chronicles 15. Once the prophet Samuel narrates David’s victory over the Philistines, he tells us about both times when the Ark was moved. However in 1 Chronicles, the order is as follows: the Ark was first moved from baal; then David defeated
the Philistines; and finally, the Ark was
moved from the House of Obed-Edom.
Therefore the two accounts are not
contradictory at all. What we have here is simply one prophet choosing to give us the complete history of the Ark at once (rather than referring to it later) and another presenting the history in a
different way. In both cases the timing of events is the same.

The same could be said of the Qur’an. In Surah 2 we are introduced to the fall of Adam, then God’s mercy is shown to the Israelites, followed by Pharaoh’s drowning, followed by Moses and the
Golden calf, followed by the Israelites
complaint about food and water, and
then we are introduced to the account of the golden calf again. Following this, we read about Moses and Jesus,then we
read about Moses and the golden calf,
and then about Solomon and Abraham.
If one wants to talk about chronology,
what does Moses have to do with Jesus,
or Solomon with Abraham?
Chronologically the surah should have
begun with Adam’s fall, then moved to
Cain and Abel, Enoch, Abraham, Lot,
Isaac, Jacob and Esau, Joseph, the sons
of Israel and Moses, in that order. If such a blatant chronological mix-up can be found in this sura of the Qur’an, then
madjnr would do well to explain it
before criticizing what they deem to be
an error in the Bible.
10.there is no contradiction here, the problem is the question you ask. Genesis 7:2 says Noah was to bring in 7 pairs of 'clean’ animals AND 2 pairs of every kind of ‘unclean’ animal.

madjnr:


4) which do we believe ?the septuagint or the Bible

madjnr:
the question was how old he was when he began to rule not when he was annointed