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Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by tonychristopher: 7:07am On Oct 29, 2015
luvablesam:


South Sudanese are christians. Only 2% are Muslims...i want u guys to succeed...Why would I be afraid?..I want you all to go... It will be nice to have a new country but not by deceit or break down of order.

I just don't know what you meant by the term deceit ..the bottom line is that Igbo said they are not interested in been with you...the question I am asking is why whine


Just like when a partner wants divorce the other party won't agree. It shows desperation to hang on to the other party and that is not dignifying to me


If they want to go...let then go

There are many options like confederation or usa UK and UAE arrangement
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by biafranking: 7:08am On Oct 29, 2015
IGBOPRINCE:
eventhough s/sudan re christians, our thinking faculty is different. Even ghanian knows that.
It s not about religion, it s all about human factors and development.
So I am not one bit panic. They just don't wants biafran to leave.
But time shall tell.
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by sinkhole: 7:14am On Oct 29, 2015
bonechamberlain:
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exactly I don't know why people always compare south Sudan and Biafra, there are so many countries in the world that disintegrated from a country, like Kosovo, Serbia, Eritrea, north korea, south Sudan, etc yet people choose to pick out only south Sudan.
South Sudan is in Africa and so is the so called Biafra!
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by ow11(m): 7:21am On Oct 29, 2015
The thread title is nice but the author's premise is disappointing. There are many reasons to believe Biafran independence is a bad idea but using South Sudan as a reason is not a good one.

Let me give you a few reasons, For a start the new Biafran borders haven't even been agreed upon by supporters. Then, actual consultation hasn't even been done by anyone to actually see through a successful secession and no one has actually talked about how the Biafran government actually hopes to secede and deal with 'Biafrans' in other parts of Nigeria.

The call should been seen by all as a move for greater stake in Nigeria rather than a secession call which has not been properly articulated. If this move will make the FG stop playing politics with infrastructure in the SE then I would consider it a victory! and everyone should be happy. Nnamdi Kanu's just repeating tired cliches and bigoted statements about non-Igbos (including supposed future citizens of Biafra) and can't possibly be taken as a serious method of creating a country.

Just for some clarity, South Sudan has been at war for over 35 years with the North. It is a desperate place with very low HDI. Building a new country takes time (Nigeria hasn't even begun after 55 years) and it took a 30 year war for the marginalisation/genocide of the South Sudanese for a cease fire with the North to happen. However, after 18 months of internal South Sudanese fighting, the belligerents are talking. Now that is progress! No Nigerian region has seen what the South Sudanese have been through (an entire generation lost).

The country would solve these squabbles when they realise a victory would be pyrrhic. That is what happens when equally matched adversaries meet on a battle field.

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Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by Keegan: 7:23am On Oct 29, 2015
Nobody is stopping biafra from seceding but the igbos themselves especially those scatter within the nooks and crannies of Nigeria, the well to do and well established among them. The fear of the unknown plays a major role here, in this current agitation, this sets of people are in great dilemma, I pity them they're neither here nor there. Its quite funny how many of them especially ignorant youths are blaming Yoruba, Hausa and Fulani. Igbo know what to do to achieve their aims but for the fear of the unknown.
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by M4gunners: 7:28am On Oct 29, 2015
acenazt:
Cannibalism,kidnapping and scam has been part of the SE for God knows how long. They will be worse than south sudan.so let em Go. My north people have this sayin 'Idan ka ga gidan Abokin ka na ci da wuta watsa wa taka gidan ruwa' it translates to if you see your friend's house on fire Pour water on yours. If the biafra agitators are wise they will open their eyes and see for them selves the misfortune that southern sudan landed themselves in.
Why can't you let them go then hence you know all this since? Please tell your brother Shekau to stop killing you people, because you guys still need population to win 2019 election abi na goat go vote for una dat time if he kill una finish now.
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by 500GP: 7:43am On Oct 29, 2015
tonychristopher:


I just don't get it

When has Igbo fought themselves or are u praying for disunited Igbo


You fail


Keep reading false news
The way they told u Igbo are illiterates
Igbo land undeveloped


IF THE IBO ARE UNITED AS YOU HAVE CLAIMED, WHY DID ABIA STATE GOVERNMENT SACKED NON-INDIGENE (IMO STATE INDIGENE ) WORKING IN ABIA STATE....
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by tonychristopher: 7:48am On Oct 29, 2015
500GP:



IF THE IBO ARE UNITED AS YOU HAVE CLAIMED, WHY DID ABIA STATE GOVERNMENT SACKED NON-INDIGENE (IMO STATE INDIGENE ) WORKING IN ABIA STATE....

And that is the basis of disunity ..it is the same abia state that nominated ngozi okonjo iweala to be minister mind u Ngozi is from igbuzor in delta state the Igbo speaking area


So keep deluding urself

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Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by bonechamberlain(m): 8:16am On Oct 29, 2015
sinkhole:
South Sudan is in Africa and so is the so called Biafra!
is Eritrea in Europe angry
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by lawrenceunaa: 8:20am On Oct 29, 2015
PassingShot:

South Sudan is predominantly Christian. It's the North that's predominantly Muslim.
but Biafra is predominantly christians . any country is bound to be in disorder so far their re Muslims:
Nigeria, Iran ,iraq it goes with an endless list
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by Nobody: 8:42am On Oct 29, 2015
luvablesam:
South Sudan was a country carved out the present day Sudan. Five years ago, they sang songs, rallied support for getting independence,did a referendum and got a resounding YES vote. They got independence, everyone in the south was ecstatic. Some gave their houses away or sold it cheaply and they all left.

Two years afterward, people with oversized ego n selfish personal interest have set the country on fire.A lot of these people have been killed,houses burnt and just disorder all over. As guardian journalist put it 'a level of human suffering I have never seen anywhere else'

Now same people from South Sudan are seeking refuge in the main Sudan in Droves. While some Sudanese wanna help others see it as unacceptable and would want them to leave.

Now in Nigeria,Do we think breaking up is the best way to show our displeasure towards situations or working together to make Nigeria prosper?

If u are in the shoes of those Sudanese will you welcome them back or send them back to their country?


It's too late.
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by ckmayoca: 8:58am On Oct 29, 2015
bonechamberlain:
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exactly I don't know why people always compare south Sudan and Biafra, there are so many countries in the world that disintegrated from a country, like Kosovo, Serbia, Eritrea, north korea, south Sudan, etc yet people choose to pick out only south Sudan.

Wayray lo n damu ori won. Made me remember a friend (abolore)that said how he wish he can collect all he spent on education and return there yeye certificate since no work for him. He didn't see anyone working with certificate and making it big and learned.
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by OnReflection: 9:04am On Oct 29, 2015
Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it ~ George Santayana

My earlier post on this subject

This is precisely the view that led South Sudan to the current quagmire it finds itself in.

Read up on the 'convenient marriage' of strange bed-fellows, and the kind of problems that a refusal to address contradictions upfront presents -- Garang’s son blames President Kiir for conflict: http://www.newvision.co.ug/news/650804-garang-s-son-blames-president-kiir-for-conflict.html
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by porshuch: 9:10am On Oct 29, 2015
I will say it again and again!




Igbo elites don't support Biafra, only touts support Biafra.



I shake my head when some miscreants say they want to secede.
We igbos are not at peace with ourselves, we say we are being maltreated by other tribes, but what of the Osu system, where we discriminate one another. Look at how Nnamdi kalu disgraced himself at world Igbo conference in los Angeles. I'm amazed with the response the right thinking Igbo men and women gave to him. "Ana ebu uzo si Na ulo diri mma nwe puo Na ama."
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by TonySpike: 9:43am On Oct 29, 2015
tonychristopher:


This is where u make mistakes

South Sudan are Muslim and Igbo are Christian so you don't compare both

Maybe compare north Korea and south Korea to Biafra


Maybe compare Ethiopia and Eritrea


These are non Muslim state

Why are u scared of Biafra

You are a liar, South Sudan is over 60% Christian with Muslim population of about 7%. Stop peddling lies on this thread!
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by Shymm3x: 10:15am On Oct 29, 2015
Lol.

I can't even see any correlation whatsoever between South Sudan and Biafra. And that is a very young country that is barely three years old - give it time. Nigeria is not even better than South Sudan in terms if death rate, extreme poverty, and underdevelopment. Take Lagos and a few other places out of Nigeria - and it is South Sudan.

You need to understand that they went through a brutal civil war before independence. Sierra Leone and Liberia that went through the same, despite being in one fold are no better. And how many years did it take for them to recover?

For every South Sudan - there are Puntland and Somaliland in Somali - at least these countries are far better and more Somali. For every South Sudan, there is a Singapore. For every South Sudan, there is a Taiwan. For every Somali, there is a Botswana.

Freedom is divine and a right - let folks seek freedom from servitude, under development, and a country perpetually in abyss.
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by acenazt: 10:54am On Oct 29, 2015
M4gunners:
Why can't you let them go then hence you know all this since? Please tell your brother Shekau to stop killing you people, because you guys still need population to win 2019 election abi na goat go vote for una dat time if he kill una finish now.
shey shekau still better pass Clifford Orji? Abi you don hear say Shekau chop any body?
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by bonechamberlain(m): 11:05am On Oct 29, 2015
ckmayoca:


Wayray lo n damu ori won. Made me remember a friend (abolore)that said how he wish he can collect all he spent on education and return there yeye certificate since no work for him. He didn't see anyone working with certificate and making it big and learned.
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by pazienza(m): 11:11am On Oct 29, 2015
Ijebuland is part of south Sudan, South Sudanese are going to claim both Lagos parts of Ijebuland and the whole of Ijebuland soon. The Awujale has spoken, hear him now:http://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2010/06/25/ijebus-are-from-sudan-awujale-insists/

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Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by baralatie(m): 11:36am On Oct 29, 2015
bonechamberlain:
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exactly I don't know why people always compare south Sudan and Biafra, there are so many countries in the world that disintegrated from a country, like Kosovo, Serbia, Eritrea, north korea, south Sudan, etc yet people choose to pick out only south Sudan.
which one do you think bloodshed was not involved and they are better off economically from where they started.
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by 500GP: 11:57am On Oct 29, 2015
tonychristopher:


And that is the basis of disunity ..it is the same abia state that nominated ngozi okonjo iweala to be minister mind u Ngozi is from igbuzor in delta state the Igbo speaking area


So keep deluding urself


STORY

# IS THAT HOW THE IBO WILL DISCRIMINATE AGAINST ONE ANOTHER IN Biafra ?
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by kingzizzy: 12:16pm On Oct 29, 2015
I wonder why anyone would use South-Sudan as an example of what would happen in event of Biafra? Eritrea broke away from Ethiopia in 1993 and have lived peacefully since then. This is despite Eritrea being half Muslim and half Christian.
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by patrick89(m): 12:38pm On Oct 29, 2015
luvablesam:


South Sudanese are christians. Only 2% are Muslims...i want u guys to succeed...Why would I be afraid?..I want you all to go... It will be nice to have a new country but not by deceit or break down of order.
all of you are talking rubbish! mention one person you know from south sudan! mention a sportsman or woman from there, mention one industrialist, mention the movie industry of south sudan, mention one south sudan person in the british parliament, mention one south sudan person that is a billionaire, mention one of south sudan person that has manufactured of invented something, mention any popular tribe from south sudan! infact the most entrepreneurial tribe in africa is Igbo... just google and see for yourself, all of you are talking rubbish.
Kelechi iheanacho just scored goal last night, mention one south sudan person that has scored in England! most of you are talking rubbish! Biafra will not only be a success story it will bring out the fact that black is capable of civilisation. a research carried by a south African lady shows that igbos are smartest and igbo has erased the fact that smartness is no longer colour issue. because igbo has proved it that blacks are capable of being smart like Asians and Caucasians too... biafra is a land of the rising sun!

south Sudannese are dark as charcoal we biafran are fair skinned, and brown skinned, we are not dark!!! We are children of God. ndi ara..
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by sinkhole: 12:42pm On Oct 29, 2015
bonechamberlain:
is Eritrea in Europe angry
Do you know how many Eritreans are currently on the run to Europe? Those guys in Eritrea are currently wishing they are still part of Ethiopia! Corruption, force constription, violence and the likes are all what abound in Eritrea.
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by OnReflection: 12:49pm On Oct 29, 2015
kingzizzy:
I wonder why anyone would use South-Sudan as an example of what would happen in event of Biafra? Eritrea broke away from Ethiopia in 1993 and have lived peacefully since then. This is despite Eritrea being half Muslim and half Christian.

Simple - A national conference, which should have pre-determined the fate of its various constituents, was not held.
Read the polemic of Truckpusher and TonyeBarcanista over the past few days, and you will get a view of the perilous road ahead cool

Eritrea has lived peacefully? The same country exporting refugees to Israel and the rest of Europe by the truckload? It is time you changed your news vendor brethren.

Footnote: While like so many others, I remain fully committed to the struggle for self-determination; I also know how easy it is to replicate hegemonism, when thorny issues are kicked into the long grass.
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by Truckpusher(m): 1:20pm On Oct 29, 2015
OnReflection:


Simple - A national conference, which should have pre-determined the fate of its various constituents, was not held.
Read the polemic of Truckpusher and TonyeBarcanista over the past few days, and you will get a view of the perilous road ahead cool

Eritrea has lived peacefully? The same country exporting refugees to Israel and the rest of Europe by the truckload? It is time you changed your news vendor brethren.

Footnote: While like so many others, I remain fully committed to the struggle for self-determination; I also know how easy it is to replicate hegemonism, when thorny issues are kicked into the long grass.
Our submission was simple and it is an ideal that every man has a right to self determination and while at you don't just yank off everyone simply because your languages are somehow intelligible to each other,that is a recipe for disaster and of course any group that wants to be part of that arrangement must do so at their own will and shouldn't be coerced under any circumstances and their interest must be protected and clearly defined.

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Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by baralatie(m): 1:43pm On Oct 29, 2015
kingzizzy:
I wonder why anyone would use South-Sudan as an example of what would happen in event of Biafra? Eritrea broke away from Ethiopia in 1993 and have lived peacefully since then. This is despite Eritrea being half Muslim and half Christian.
Eritrea is in crisis and under trouble .presently some of its citizens are seeking asylum in either neighbouring countries or they are on the run!
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by Nobody: 1:48pm On Oct 29, 2015
tonychristopher:


This is where u make mistakes

South Sudan are Muslim and Igbo are Christian so you don't compare both

Maybe compare north Korea and south Korea to Biafra


Maybe compare Ethiopia and Eritrea


These are non Muslim state

Why are u scared of Biafra
South sudan a muslim country. Bro check ur facts b4 u spill trash again. If I may ask,what was actually the main reason,south sudan wanted to leave sudan.
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by kingzizzy: 2:31pm On Oct 29, 2015
baralatie:

Eritrea is in crisis and under trouble .presently some of its citizens are seeking asylum in either neighbouring countries or they are on the run!


Is that any different from what is currently happening in Nigeria?
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by Chiaka(f): 2:41pm On Oct 29, 2015
Don't mind them Jare! as if they care that much.......why the scare and the much talk It will sure be a great country
tonychristopher:


The question I ask is why are they scared if Biafra... I still just don't get it. They are saying that Igbo are the key that hold Nigeria


So I just don't get it
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by tonychristopher: 2:44pm On Oct 29, 2015
Chiaka:

Don't mind them Jare! as if they care that much.......why the scare and the much talk It will sure be a great country
Ok
Re: Case Study(south Sudan) by bonechamberlain(m): 2:57pm On Oct 29, 2015
sinkhole:
Do you know how many Eritreans are currently on the run to Europe? Those guys in Eritrea are currently wishing they are still part of Ethiopia! Corruption, force constription, violence and the likes are all what abound in Eritrea.
get to the bridge first, then anything that comes up would be dealt with. remember Nigerians are also on the run to europe, even more than the Eritreans .

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