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Re: Child Marriage In The Bible? by yazach: 11:46am On Nov 08, 2015 |
Richirich713: @Red: Jesus son of God or himself God But Arab Christians believe God's name is Allah @Green Yet to prove that he was a Jew. If we are to accept your claim, the following will also be true: If God of Mose is God of Abraham and Abraham is a Jew as a result of that Then God of Abraham is God of Noah, Adam, therefore Hoah, Adam were Jews God of Abraham is also God of Jesus, then Jesus was a Jew Mind you their is a big difference between been a Jew as a tribe and being a Jew as a religious believe |
Re: Child Marriage In The Bible? by Richirich713: 12:56pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
yazach: The argument is not about the trinity, the point is muhammad talks about a jesus which according to our earliest sources is not the real jesus. So my point is still valid, muhammad spoke about a jesus who was not crucified nor claimed to be son of god. Arab Christians use Allah as a common noun while muslims believe Allah is God name. Arab Christians don't believe God name is Allah, they believe it is the Tetragrammaton (YHWH). yazach: U misunderstood my argument, I said abraham was a jew to point to his Jewish ethnicity so in then end u basing ur argument on nothing. For just like I said, my whole point was that abraham was a Ancient hebrew who worship Yahweh. 1 Like |
Re: Child Marriage In The Bible? by Richirich713: 1:08pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
And that's the whole problem, if islam is true why does it disagree with the earliest information we have on jesus. Not only do we have Ancient christian documents on jesus, we also have Jewish nd Roman writings which mentions jesus crucifixion 1 Like |
Re: Child Marriage In The Bible? by Neverquit(f): 3:25pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
Interesting |
Re: Child Marriage In The Bible? by yazach: 6:34pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
Richirich713: And my argument is about know the true description of Jesus, is he son of God, God himself, Messenger of God? Richirich713: You need to be in Arabian land to have a conclusion, this is where I have lived for years and I have 100% assurance that they did not differentiate between the two Richirich713: base on your argument, Jesus was a Jew also. Therefore, it is baseless for someone to say he is a christian |
Re: Child Marriage In The Bible? by Richirich713: 7:14pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
yazach: That's not the argument, the argument is who historical jesus is according to the easiest sources All the earliest sources disagree with islam. yazach: I can assure u the bible says YHWH is God name. And I can assure u a Arabic bible does not translate YHWH to Allah. yazach: Who said Jesus is a christian? I never heard a christian say that before. "Christian" is just a term used to describe the original followers of jesus, the followers of Christ. And Yes jesus was a jew, Peter was also a jew, John was also a jew, matthew was also a jew. But most of the Jews of jesus time rejected jesus as they believed he was a false messiah. The Jews wu believed in him began to call themselves christians nd that's wer the word christian comes from. 2 Likes |
Re: Child Marriage In The Bible? by Maamin(m): 8:31pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
yazach: Rubbish! Next time use the bible properly |
Re: Child Marriage In The Bible? by Maamin(m): 8:36pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
yazach: Biblical prove pls? |
Re: Child Marriage In The Bible? by Maamin(m): 9:19pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
And my argument is about know the true description of Jesus, is he son of God, God himself, Messenger of God? Yes! he is the Son of God : John 10:36 "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?" Yes! In himself is a God : Hebrews 1:8-9 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows." John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." Yes! He is messenger of God : Jesus came to this earth as a Messenger from God the Father: "Behold, I send My messenger, and he will prepare the way before Me. And the Lord, whom you seek, will suddenly come to His temple, even the Messenger of the covenant, in whom you delight. Behold, He is coming,' says the LORD of hosts" (Malachi 3:1). Two messengers are mentioned in this verse. The first is John the Baptist, who prepared the way for the second Messenger, "the Messenger of the covenant," Jesus Christ. You need to be in Arabian land to have a conclusion, this is where I have lived for years and I have 100% assurance that they did not differentiate between the two No! It does not matter if you have lived there for centuries.."Allah" is a common noun in arabic that = "God" in english language. Not really a name. base on your argument, Jesus was a Jew also. Therefore, it is baseless for someone to say he is a christian And it is even more Futile and senseless to consider him as a Muslim either. In fact the gap and difference is like this..
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