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How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:55pm On Nov 05, 2015
How do we know Christianity is true and we are not deceived? There are a lot of competing truth-claim systems in the world. How do we know that we as Christians are believing what is true and are not deceived?

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There are a lot of competing truth-claim systems in the world. How do we know that we as Christians are believing what is true and are not deceived? The answer is threefold.

First, Christianity is only as true as the person of Jesus. He fulfilled prophecy, claimed to be God in flesh, performed many miracles, died, and physically rose from the dead. Christianity is about Jesus, His claims, and His deeds. It is based on Him, and it is only as true as He is true.

Second, Christianity is consistent with reason, facts, and shows evidence of God's inspiration in the Bible.

Third, all other religious systems are either unverifiable or irrational in their teachings.

The person of Jesus

For the Christian, the ultimate expression of truth is found in the person of Jesus who said, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life and no one comes to the father but through me . . . ," (John 14:6). Jesus, who claimed to be divine, performed many miracles, and rose from the dead, said that He alone was the Truth. He was either right or wrong. There is no in-between. If Jesus is wrong, then Christianity is a wrong. If Jesus did not rise from the dead, then we should abandon our faith because He would be no different from anyone else. If Jesus is not God in flesh, then we should denounce Him as a madman because you can't claim to be God and be sane--unless the claim is true. Therefore, if what Jesus said about Himself is true, then Christianity is true.

Did Jesus fail to rise from the dead? If so, why could no one produce the body? Were the eyewitnesses of His resurrection really conspirators and liars? Then how did they concoct such a lie based on eyewitnesses' accounts that could have been verified at that time? We have no historical refutations of the Gospel claims. Why would people invent such a story that they knew would probably cost them their lives? Why would Paul--of Pharisees sent to destroy Christianity--suddenly convert and state that his conversion was based upon the appearance of the resurrected Christ? The answer to these questions are best found by believing that Jesus was who He said that He was, performed miracles, and rose from the dead.

You see, Christianity is only as true as Jesus is true. If it can be shown that Jesus lied, failed to perform miracles, was not God in flesh, and did not rise from the dead, then Christianity is false and we are deceived.

Reason, Facts of history, and Inspiration

There is nothing within the scope of Christian teaching that denies reason. The doctrine of the Trinity may be a mystery, but it is not illogical. The incarnation may be paradoxical in that the person of Jesus is both divine and human, but it is not impossible. The resurrection of Christ may be enigmatic, but it does not defy logic unless you deny the miraculous to begin with. Christianity is reasonable, that is, it does not violate logic. It may contain mysteries and paradoxes, but there is nothing within its body of teaching that contradicts reason.

There is nothing within Christian teaching that denies the facts of history. History and archaeology confirm the Bible. We have many non-biblical accounts of New Testament events and/or people. Josephus, a Jewish historian (AD 37-101), mentioned John the Baptist and Herod (Antiquities, Book 18, ch. 5, par. 2) as well as Jesus (Antiquities, Book 18, ch. 3, par. 3) and James (Antiquities, Book 20, ch. 19). Tacitus, a Roman historian (AD 55-117), mentions Jesus (Annals XV); Thallus (Circa AD 52), mentions the eclipse of the sun.1

The facts of archaeology and history support the Bible and do not contradict it. Various cities mentioned in it have been discovered: Arad, Bethel, Capernaum, Chorizin, Dan, Ephesus, Gaza, Gezer, Hazor, Hesbon, Jericho, Joppa, Nineveh, Schechem, Susa, etc. The Hittites have been verified as have the stables of Solomon, etc. The point is that there is nothing in archaeology that contradicts Biblical truth. It agrees with and is consistent with archaeology and history.

Evidence of Biblical inspiration can be clearly seen in the prophecies found in the Old Testament and their fulfillment in the New.

The following cities were prophesied to be destroyed and never rebuilt which has come true since they have not yet been rebuilt. Nineveh (Nah. 1:10, 3:7, 15, Zeph. 2:13-14), Babylon (Isaiah 13:1-22), and Tyre (Ezek. 26).

Prophecies about Jesus: Jesus would be born of a virgin--Isaiah 7:14 fulfilled in Matt. 1:18, 25, His birthplace in Bethlehem--Micah 5:2, fulfilled in Matt. 2:1, Preceded by a messenger--Isaiah 40:3, fulfilled in Matt. 3:1-2, side pierced--Zech. 12:10, fulfilled in John 19:34, that He would be crucified--Psalm 22:1, 11-18, fulfilled in John 19:23-24.

Prophecies of the future and their fulfillment are evidence of God's involvement in Christianity. Though much more can be written on this topic, the evidence of God's work in the Bible can be demonstrated reasonably to be true. It is scientifically accurate, archaeologically accurate, and historically accurate. When this is combined with the extremely well-preserved documents written by the eyewitnesses, it leads us to conclude reasonably that the Bible is preserved excellently and is not merely the product of human effort. It is divinely inspired.

Of course, there are critics who say that the Bible was altered to make it look as though Jesus fulfilled prophecies. But this would mean the Bible was purposely written to be a deception. What evidence exists for that claim? How do the critics account for the Bible's declaration of teaching truth while it is based on a lie? Why would the disciples knowingly deceive and suffer ostracization from their culture and be willing to die for what they knew was false? Such basic questions would need to be answered because those who would propose a new theory would need to answer the tough questions that their theories would raise. Can they give a more reasonable explanation than the one contained in the Bible--that Jesus was who He said that He was and did what the Scriptures say that He did? If no more feasible theories can be proposed that would account for all the facts, then the critics have nothing on which to stand, and the claims of Scripture are true.

Reason, Facts of history, and Inspiration

There is nothing within the scope of Christian teaching that denies reason. The doctrine of the Trinity may be a mystery, but it is not illogical. The incarnation may be paradoxical in that the person of Jesus is both divine and human, but it is not impossible. The resurrection of Christ may be enigmatic, but it does not defy logic unless you deny the miraculous to begin with. Christianity is reasonable, that is, it does not violate logic. It may contain mysteries and paradoxes, but there is nothing within its body of teaching that contradicts reason.

There is nothing within Christian teaching that denies the facts of history. History and archaeology confirm the Bible. We have many non-biblical accounts of New Testament events and/or people. Josephus, a Jewish historian (AD 37-101), mentioned John the Baptist and Herod (Antiquities, Book 18, ch. 5, par. 2) as well as Jesus (Antiquities, Book 18, ch. 3, par. 3) and James (Antiquities, Book 20, ch. 19). Tacitus, a Roman historian (AD 55-117), mentions Jesus (Annals XV); Thallus (Circa AD 52), mentions the eclipse of the sun.1

The facts of archaeology and history support the Bible and do not contradict it. Various cities mentioned in it have been discovered: Arad, Bethel, Capernaum, Chorizin, Dan, Ephesus, Gaza, Gezer, Hazor, Hesbon, Jericho, Joppa, Nineveh, Schechem, Susa, etc. The Hittites have been verified as have the stables of Solomon, etc. The point is that there is nothing in archaeology that contradicts Biblical truth. It agrees with and is consistent with archaeology and history.

Evidence of Biblical inspiration can be clearly seen in the prophecies found in the Old Testament and their fulfillment in the New.

The following cities were prophesied to be destroyed and never rebuilt which has come true since they have not yet been rebuilt. Nineveh (Nah. 1:10, 3:7, 15, Zeph. 2:13-14), Babylon (Isaiah 13:1-22), and Tyre (Ezek. 26).

Prophecies about Jesus: Jesus would be born of a virgin--Isaiah 7:14 fulfilled in Matt. 1:18, 25, His birthplace in Bethlehem--Micah 5:2, fulfilled in Matt. 2:1, Preceded by a messenger--Isaiah 40:3, fulfilled in Matt. 3:1-2, side pierced--Zech. 12:10, fulfilled in John 19:34, that He would be crucified--Psalm 22:1, 11-18, fulfilled in John 19:23-24.

Prophecies of the future and their fulfillment are evidence of God's involvement in Christianity. Though much more can be written on this topic, the evidence of God's work in the Bible can be demonstrated reasonably to be true. It is scientifically accurate, archaeologically accurate, and historically accurate. When this is combined with the extremely well-preserved documents written by the eyewitnesses, it leads us to conclude reasonably that the Bible is preserved excellently and is not merely the product of human effort. It is divinely inspired.

Of course, there are critics who say that the Bible was altered to make it look as though Jesus fulfilled prophecies. But this would mean the Bible was purposely written to be a deception. What evidence exists for that claim? How do the critics account for the Bible's declaration of teaching truth while it is based on a lie? Why would the disciples knowingly deceive and suffer ostracization from their culture and be willing to die for what they knew was false? Such basic questions would need to be answered because those who would propose a new theory would need to answer the tough questions that their theories would raise. Can they give a more reasonable explanation than the one contained in the Bible--that Jesus was who He said that He was and did what the Scriptures say that He did? If no more feasible theories can be proposed that would account for all the facts, then the critics have nothing on which to stand, and the claims of Scripture are true.

Other belief systems are unverifiable or irrational

There are other belief systems that claim to be valid, but they are either non-verifiable historically or irrational internally. For example Mormonism clearly contradicts the Bible (teaches God was a man on another planet, is married to a goddess wife, etc.,) and has no historical evidence to validate the book of Mormon, and teaches the logical impossibility of an eternal regression of causes. It teaches that there is an infinite regression of gods being formed, i.e., an infinite list of causes in the past. But this is impossible since this would require crossing an infinite amount of time (causal events) to get to the present. But an infinite amount of time cannot be crossed, otherwise, it isn't infinite. Therefore, there cannot be an infinite regression of new gods being formed, and Mormonism can't be true.

Islam teaches that the Quran is the absolute truth revealed from their god Allah. It further states--and this is critical--that if one fact in the Quran is incorrect, then Islam is not true. But the Quran teaches a man's seed comes from his chest--not testes, (Quran 86:5-7). It describes crucifixion before its invention (Quran 7:123-124) and says that birds and ants can talk (27:16, 27:18). Since these are not true, Islam can't be either.

Atheism--as a negative worldview--cannot be validated to be true, nor can it account for rationality since its materialistic perspective cannot bridge the gap between absolute, conceptual realities (i.e., logical absolutes on which reason is based) and the principle of materialism--that all things in the universe can be understood in terms of motion, matter, chemical reactions, etc. Again, atheism can't be verified as being true since it is a position of negativity. A denial of the existence of something is almost always impossible to validate.

Reincarnation religions (Hinduism, Buddhism, etc.,) have the problem of karma, the residual cause-and-effect from previous lives that governs future incarnation levels. These incarnations serve the goal of teaching the soul, through life's journey's, [sic] so that they can return to the divine source (how can this be verfied?). But each soul had at its initial incarnation perfect karma, yet each soul failed to return to the source even while having had perfect karma. Instead, each soul is locked in the ongoing cycle of reincarnation. If the soul had not learned its lessons after experiencing perfect karma, how can it do so with imperfect karma? Furthermore, eastern-based religions deny the absolutes of logic and infer counter-logical systems that contradict logic and cannot be validated through history or reason. In essence, they are nonfalsifiable.2

The New Age Movement offers subjective, unverifiable experience as the underlying framework for its theological perspectives such as human divinity, divinity of nature, etc. It is an eclectic movement with numerous contradictory belief systems that rest under its broad umbrella. How can anyone can take it seriously?

These simplified and brief analyses of various systems demonstrate that their claims must be verifiable in some way (archaeology, ancient documents concurrent with verifiable history, etc.,) and must be rational. But, when a theological system cannot be verified using either normal historical examination or internal logical consistency, how can it be assumed to be true? It can't.

Where else would we go?

Jesus had a discussion with His disciples in John 6 where He spoke about communion and that no one could come to Him unless it was granted Him from the father (John 6:67-68). "At this point many of his disciples abandoned him. Jesus then said to the twelve, 'You do not want to go away also, do you?' 68 Simon Peter answered Him, 'Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life.'" Peter's answer is relevant. If we must abandon Christianity, then what better offer can anyone make that would be of greater truth than the words of Jesus? Where else would we go? To Islam and learn to kill? To Mormonism to answer the call of pride in order to become gods? To atheism which offers us nothing except moral relativity and inconsistency? To reincarnation with its seemingly endless cycle of incarnations and suffering? What is better than Jesus? To whom should we go if we abandoned Christianity?

Conclusion:

If anyone has anything better to offer than the claims, the deeds, and the sacrifice of Christ, then perhaps we would go that way. But since no one else has anything better to offer than Jesus and since no one else has fulfilled prophecies, performed miracles, raised people from the dead, risen from the dead, and promised to return for His people, then we are forced by reason and the evidence to continue to believe in Jesus, His teachings, and the truth that Christianity represents as is found in Him.

Christianity is true, and we are not deceived because it is based on the person of Jesus who fulfilled prophecy, claimed to be God in flesh, performed many miracles, died, and physically rose from the dead. Christianity is consistent with reason, facts, and shows evidence of God's inspiration. And finally, all other religious systems are either unverifiable or irrational, thereby disqualifying them as being true.

Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that Christianity is true and that we are not being deceived. Simples. wink

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Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by Fundamentalist: 8:01pm On Nov 05, 2015
The question should best be answered with another question, where has it been stated that jesus preached or practice Christianity? [size=8pt][/size][font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by tripplephi: 8:05pm On Nov 05, 2015
CHRISTIANITY IS PURELY NOT TO BE BELIEVED DUE TO FACTS OR ANCIENT FINDINGS,BECAUSE OTHER RELIGIONS DO TOO, BUT THE ISSUE IS DO WE BELIEVE IN WHAT WE ARE TOLD OR WHAT WE EXPERIENCE... I FEEL THE GREATEST CONVICTION IS TO YIELD YOURSELF TO TANGIBLE EXPERIENCE WITH JESUS CHRIST(NOT WITH A PASTOR) BEFORE YOU CAN KNOW FOR A DEEP TRUTH WHY YOU SHOULD BE A CHRISTIAN... IF YOU ARE SINCERE AND HONEST WITH YOURSELF, YOU WILL EXPERIENCE TRUE DIVINITY. THE TRUE AND LIVING GOD DOES NOT OWN ANYONE TO PROVE HIMSELF.

ACTS 17:1-11 now this is based on HISTORY and how PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAN ACTUALLY FIND THE TRUTH.

REVELATION 22:11-12.....NOW THATS HOW GOD ANSWERS THIS KIND OF CONFUSION.

I WISH YOU HAPPY RESEARCH. THIS IS ALL THE ANSWER YOU NEED, IF YOU ASKED THE QUESTION TO KNOW THE TRUTH AND NOT TO STIR UP CONTROVERSY

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Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:15pm On Nov 05, 2015
Fundamentalist:


The question should best be answered with another question, where has it been stated that jesus preached or practice Christianity? [size=8pt][/size][font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]

It is a foregone conclusion that Christianity started after Christ. Christianity is taken from the word Christ. If you are a follower of Christ then you are a Christian. How do we know Christianity is true?
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by PureWays(m): 8:19pm On Nov 05, 2015
@Op, If you were ever a true Christian, you should know the answer to your question by now..


It's called "Faith"..
You can't get the answer through logic, that's a medium for Mortality..
It's like wanting to see micro organisms with your bare eyes, you will need to use a magnifying glass in order to achieve that..

The ways of the spirit differs from Logic..

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Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by Les: 8:31pm On Nov 05, 2015
PureWays:
@Op, If you were ever a true Christian, you should know the answer to your question by now..


It's called "Faith"..
You can't get the answer through logic, that's a medium for Mortality..
It's like wanting to see micro organisms with your bare eyes, you will need to use a magnifying glass in order to achieve that..

The ways of the spirit differs from Logic..
was about to say the same thing. Op, if truly you are in a going church and not just a church goer, you wouldn't ask such question. Are you even a born again to begin with?
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by malvisguy212: 9:00pm On Nov 05, 2015
https://www.nairaland.com/1999485/all-religions-lead-god-one

Agnostics often fall into two camps, those who believe that all religions can lead to God or those who believe that true religion cannot be discerned. This page examines both positions in an attempt to determine where the truth may lie. Logically, there are several
possibilities. Atheists would say that no
religion leads to God, since He doesn't exist. It is possible that one,several or all religions lead to God.
ALL WAYS LEAD TO GOD:
There are hundreds of religions in the
world today, and many ancient religions that are no longer practiced. It is possible, and perhaps likely, that all religions contain some truth and/or good moral advice. However, in examining religious teaching, it is important to examine the fundamental beliefs of each religion and compare those to each other. When this is done,it is apparent that primary religious teachings contradict each other.Judaism says that the Messiah is coming,
Christianity says that He has come, and
Islam says that Mohammad provided all the information necessary for religious life. Obviously,these truth claims cannot be simultaneously true, since they
contradict each other. Logically, we must reject the idea that all religions lead to God.
TRUE RELIGEON:IS IT POSSIBLE TO
DISCERN?
I believe that there are some things that
we can discern about God from the nature of the universe. The universe demonstrates some remarkable evidence of design. What kind of God designed all this, and how can we know His true identity? Most people who believe God exists would agree with the argument that the God who designed the universe must be a personal God. For God to put so much time and care
into the design of the universe and life, it would seem logical to conclude that God really cared about His creation, and was personally involved in it's creation. A God who did not care about his creation would never be expected to spend 14 billion years of development
just so that humans would have a nice
place to live for a few thousand years. Therefore, it would seem likely that the true God must be a personal God, and not the God of deism, pantheism, Buddhism, etc. So, it would seem that these religions probably do not represent the true nature of God.
ELIMINATE THE ILLOGICAL:
The powerful and personal Creator God
of the universe would probably want to reveal Himself to His spiritual creatures. So, it seems likely that God would have revealed His true nature to one or more of the peoples of the earth. Are all the
revelations of the world religions a
reflection of God or just certain one(s)?
This is the difficult question that cannot be answered in merely one short page. However, I believe one can come up with a best answer through much study and through the process of elimination. For example, some religions make truth claims that are obviously false. The LDS church(Mormons) claims that gods are created through procreation and that creatures created by those gods can eventually become gods themselves. However, this religion suffers from the problem of how the first god came into existence. Logic would dictate that God is eternal and uncreated. All religions that claim otherwise would seem to be logically flawed.
BASIC RELIGEON CLAIM:
Since many religious claims contradict
one another, it would seem that not all religions could be simultaneously true. How can we tell which religion(s) are true? If you examine the world religions, most describe ethical and moral laws that are ascribed to God. Breaking of those laws is an offense to God. How do different religions handle that problem?
Many religions say that if one tries to
obey God's laws most of the time, God
will accept you. However, I believe that
we can eliminate that idea as being true of the Creator God of the universe. God designed physical laws of the universe. These laws are constant and unbreakable. God Himself, seems to
break those physical laws only rarely. I propose that this God would not accept the breaking of His moral laws so easily. In fact, from the nature of the physical laws, it would seem that God would not accept the breaking of His moral laws
at all. Nearly all religions claim that God
will ignore our breaking of His moral laws as long as we try our best. This is where Christianity differs from all other world religions. Christianity says that our good works cannot erase our bad moral choices. Think of it in terms of our legal systems. We are convicted of crimes on the basis of breaking the law. If we break a law, we are found guilty under the law. It doesn't matter
what good things we have done in our
lives, if we break the law. We might get a lesser sentence, but we will still be convicted of a crime. So, God cannot simply ignore our crimes against Him. We will be found guilty,despite our good works. Christianity says that our bad deeds (sins) must be eliminated in order to be acceptable to God. The elimination of sins was accomplished by the sacrifice of the Savior (Jesus Christ). Jesus Christ is God Himself, who came to earth, led a sinless life, and died on the cross as a sacrifice to take the sins of
mankind. So, God Himself provided a
means of eliminating our sins against Him. However, the elimination of sins is not automatic. Since God will allow people into His presence after death, they must agree to His terms. This contract is executed through faith in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ to eliminate our sins. By accepting God's terms, our sins are erased and we can stand in the presence of God without any sin. Only
our good deeds will be counted for our
judgment. Those who don't accept God's terms will be judged on the basis of God's laws - and will be found guilty.
CHRISTIANITY IS DIFFERENT :
No other religion provides a provision for God's forgiveness of sin,which is why I believe Christianity to be the only true way to God.Jesus said He is the only way to God and that all people must follow Him to enter heaven. All other religions are man's attempt to become acceptable to God.Only Christianity says
that God alone provides the only means
to be acceptable to Him. So, either Christianity is true and all other religions are false or Christianity is false and God does not hold people accountable for law breaking.Personally, I would not want to rely upon God ignoring His own rules. It doesn't seem to be logical reasoning.This is the choice you must make.
CONCLUSION:
So, I encourage you to examine the world religions to see if what I am saying is true. Don't give up on the ability to separate the truth claims
of the world's religions. If Christianity is
true, you must make a choice or you will be judged on the basis of your sins against God. Let me know if you have any questions.
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by tartar9(m): 9:14pm On Nov 05, 2015
if you where to use logic,then xtianity is clearly false.

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Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by Nobody: 9:24pm On Nov 05, 2015
If religion is true, why does it need to be believed by 'faith'? Any story becomes 'real and true' if reasoning is suspended and inquiry restricted. Without religion, people who believe in a man who died 2000 years and expect his return would be committed to psych wards for evaluation.
There is no nice way to say this. Your faith in tall tales doesn't make them true.

tartar9:
if you where to use logic,then xtianity is clearly false.
Not just logic. The Muslim faith also proves Christianity wrong. One set believe a God has a son who is Himself, the other consider this a blasphemy.

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Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by tartar9(m): 10:09pm On Nov 05, 2015
sonOfLucifer:
If religion is true, why does it need to be believed by 'faith'? Any story becomes 'real and true' if reasoning is suspended and inquiry restricted. Without religion, people who believe in a man who died 2000 years and expect his return would be committed to psych wards for evaluation.
There is no nice way to say this. Your faith in tall tales doesn't make them true.


Not just logic. The Muslim faith also proves Christianity wrong. One set believe a God has a son who is Himself, the other consider this a blasphemy.
Islam doesn't claim,I don't need the Qur'an to tell me the irrationality of a God having a son.
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by Nobody: 10:11pm On Nov 05, 2015
tartar9:
Islam doesn't claim,I don't need the Qur'an to tell me the irrationality of a God having a son.
hehehe
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by Fundamentalist: 4:51am On Nov 06, 2015
^^^^^^^


Too much rubbish to swallow [font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by Richirich713: 7:19am On Nov 06, 2015
How can islam prove Christianity wrong if it made the error of saying jesus was never crucified.

People should not learn who jesus is from a man who came 600 years after him, they should go to the earliest documents, nd all the earliest sources on jesus say he claimed to be the Son of God and he was crucified.

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Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by Fundamentalist: 8:53am On Nov 06, 2015
Richirich713:
How can islam prove Christianity wrong if it made the error of saying jesus was never crucified.

People should not learn who jesus is from a man who came 600 years after him, they should go to the earliest documents, nd all the earliest sources on jesus say he claimed to be the Son of God and he was crucified.

Which of the earliest documents are you referring to?
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by Glovicdaprince(m): 9:28am On Nov 06, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
How do we know Christianity is true and we are not deceived? There are a lot of competing truth-claim systems in the world. How do we know that we as Christians are believing what is true and are not deceived?

You don't!! That's why its all based on faith....Faith in God, in his son!! And by the way...Miracles, deliverances, healings which we see happening around us are a proof to the unbelievers that its all real!!
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by tartar9(m): 10:16am On Nov 06, 2015
Fundamentalist:

Which of the earliest documents are you referring to?
ask him o
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by Richirich713: 10:32am On Nov 06, 2015
Fundamentalist:


Which of the earliest documents are you referring to?

The NT documents
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by Fundamentalist: 1:04pm On Nov 06, 2015
Richirich713:


The NT documents

Full meaning
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:01pm On Nov 06, 2015
Fundamentalist:


The question should best be answered with another question, where has it been stated that jesus preached or practice Christianity? [size=8pt][/size][font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]

What do you understand by the term 'Christianity'?
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by Nobody: 3:07pm On Nov 06, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


What do you understand by the term 'Christianity'?
The belief in a super Jew called Jesus.
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:11pm On Nov 06, 2015
sonOfLucifer:


The belief in a super Jew called Jesus.

Good. Except that He is more than a super Jew. Lucifer cannot bring himself to mention that name because at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow. cheesy
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by Nobody: 3:13pm On Nov 06, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Good. Except that He is more than a super Jew. Lucifer cannot bring himself to mention that name because at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow. cheesy
Thats a lot of blowj0bs and d0ggies..

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Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by Richirich713: 5:50pm On Nov 06, 2015
Fundamentalist:


Full meaning

The New Testament is the earliest documents we have on jesus
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by tartar9(m): 8:10pm On Nov 06, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Good. Except that He is more than a super Jew. Lucifer cannot bring himself to mention that name because at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow. cheesy
lol is that not the same name parisbookaddict screams out every night while she's doing her work in Italy? it truly makes knees bow grin
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by Fundamentalist: 8:19pm On Nov 06, 2015
Richirich713:


The New Testament is the earliest documents we have on jesus

Are you saying the old testament is vague?
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by Richirich713: 8:33pm On Nov 06, 2015
Fundamentalist:


Are you saying the old testament is vague?

No I'm not say that, The new testament is the documents studied by historical scholars , it is the earliest documents we have on Jesus.
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by Fundamentalist: 5:26am On Nov 07, 2015
Richirich713:


No I'm not say that, The new testament is the documents studied by historical scholars , it is the earliest documents we have on Jesus.

These scholars must have names right? And on what principle did they apply to biblical studies to shut down doubting thomasess?
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by Richirich713: 5:47am On Nov 07, 2015
Fundamentalist:


These scholars must have names right? And on what principle did they apply to biblical studies to shut down doubting thomasess?

If I'm wrong about wat the earliest documents are on jesus, plz name me documents earlier?

If u can't then I don't see why I should answer all your unnecessary questions. I'm sure u won't be able to name me 1 historical scholar( who is not muslim are course) who wud go to the Quran for information about jesus.
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by PAGAN9JA(m): 7:58am On Nov 07, 2015
Wow ! Glad to see Olaadegbu finally questioning his faith.

Good. Times are changing. .

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Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by Fundamentalist: 1:45pm On Nov 07, 2015
Richirich713:


If I'm wrong about wat the earliest documents are on jesus, plz name me documents earlier?

If u can't then I don't see why I should answer all your unnecessary questions. I'm sure u won't be able to name me 1 historical scholar( who is not muslim are course) who wud go to the Quran for information about jesus.

You are very confused
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by Richirich713: 1:49pm On Nov 07, 2015
Fundamentalist:


You are very confused

Confused about what?
Re: How Do We Know Christianity Is True And We Are Not Deceived? by badassdude: 2:00pm On Nov 07, 2015
Richirich713:
How can islam prove Christianity wrong if it made the error of saying jesus was never crucified.

People should not learn who jesus is from a man who came 600 years after him, they should go to the earliest documents, nd all the earliest sources on jesus say he claimed to be the Son of God and he was crucified.
Even the apocalypse of peter shows that jesus wasnt crucified, but someone else. And it was even on a tree not a cross, thats why the NT isnt even sure if jesus was crucified on a tree or cross.

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