chuna1985:



Jesus is not the only son of God.

According to the bible, The Sons of God slept with daughters of men and they gave birth to Nephilims


Genesis 6 vs 1 - 8.......6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. Genesis

There's a big difference between the Son of God and the sons of God. Can you spot it?

johnw74:










God can do things by Himself, He doesn't need anyone or anything,
He doesn't need a woman or Heavenly being to bring forth the Word


Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
Pro 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
Pro 8:24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

God bought the Word forth from Himself, the one and only begotten of God.



Pro 8:30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;


Gen_1:26 And God said, Let [size=14pt]us[/size] make man in [size=14pt]our[/size] image, after [size=14pt]our[/size] likeness: ....
Gen_11:7 Go to, let [size=14pt]us[/size] go down, and there confound their language, ....

But Muhammad the founder of Islam learnt from the Roman Catholics that Mary is one of the Godhead and hence honour her as the mother of God.

OLAADEGBU:


There's a big difference between the Son of God and the sons of God. Can you spot it?

Of course I can spot it. The bible god has been manufacturing sons for himself

OLAADEGBU:


But Muhammad the founder of Islam learnt from the Roman Catholics that Mary is one of the Godhead and hence honour her as the mother of God.

muhammad didn't learn much, did he

OLAADEGBU:


You will have to first agree that Jesus was begotten and not created.

Tel me how he was begotten ? By sexual intercourse or creation

Firstborn not firstcreated.

Firstborn of all creation , that simply tells you that of all creation that came into existence , he is the first and beginning of the creation by God The Father - Rev 3:14

Ever wondered why such title is never given to the Father ??

1,Jesus=Son=Man. 2,Jesus=Son=God. Cancel like terms in the two equations and you have Man=God. Therefore Jesus or Son=Man=God. Muslims fear Allah 'cos they know that Allah is capable of translating Himself in different and many forms, shapes, sizes, presences and representations. He is the God that moulded Adam, caused him to sleep and took his Rib and shapened it into a human woman. The muslims believe(this is Faith) that the same God, Allah, is capable of reproducing and representing Himself in different and many ways implicitly or explicitly without the necesity for Sex in human form. Human is unifacet, but God is omnifacet, omnicapable, omniarts, omniscience and omnispirit. His ways are not human ways. Muslims know this but Christians often try to rationalise God for their understanding. God is irrational and cannot be caged for observations and investigations. That is why He is in Heaven and we are on earth.

OLAADEGBU:


There is only One God in three Persons.

Perfect! One God in 3 redemptive offices...the concept of three in one is wrong. It's One in three..

[color=#000099][/color][b][/b]"whom shall I send and who will go for us?" the implication of the above question is that there were other children in heaven with God at the time and Jesus offered to go maybe, against his will. I suspect that the older siblings pushed him forward as the youngest and he had no choice. The truth is, if Jesus is the son of God, so are you and everyone irrespective of whatever faith they profess. We are Soul divine sparks of God. The human consciousness is what create distinctions among us. The difference between us is simply our level of consciousness. Jesus had a mission and he fulfilled his mission, he preached the message of love but, he is not the only one who has come in that manner. And even you OP have the potential of attaining and even surpassing the level of consciousness which Jesus attained. To claim that Jesus is the only begoten son of God shows how ignorant we are spiritually and ofcourse our little understanding of what God is

OLAADEGBU:


If Jesus is called the Son of God, do you think that makes Him God? Muslims often misunderstand the term, "Son of God," to mean that God literally had sexual relations with Mary to produce Jesus. Is that what the term means?

Suggested answer:

https://carm.org/religious-movements/islam/if-jesus-called-son-god-do-you-think-makes-him-god

OLAADEGBU:


Suggested answer:

https://carm.org/religious-movements/islam/if-jesus-called-son-god-do-you-think-makes-him-god

Muslims often misunderstand the term, "Son of God," to mean that God literally had sexual relations with Mary to produce Jesus. That is not what the term means, nor is it what the Bible teaches. And it is not what Christianity teaches. The term, "Son of God," refers not to procreation but to a special relationship that Jesus has with God the Father.

The phrase, "Son of God," occurs 43 times in the New American Standard Bible, and it refers to Jesus. The term is specifically designated as a title in Romans 1:4, "who was declared the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead, according to the Spirit of holiness, Jesus Christ our Lord." Notice that it says that Jesus was declared the Son of God. This shows that it is a title and does not mean that He was begotten through sexual relations between God and Mary--which is a blasphemous thing to claim.

Also, Jesus calls Himself the Son in Mark 13:32, "But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone."1 And at Jesus' baptism, God speaks from Heaven and says, "Thou art My beloved Son, in Thee I am well-pleased." (Mark. 1:11). Clearly, Jesus is said that to be the Son of God by the Scriptures by the Father and by Himself.

To be continued...

OLAADEGBU:


Muslims often misunderstand the term, "Son of God," to mean that God literally had sexual relations with Mary to produce Jesus. That is not what the term means, nor is it what the Bible teaches. And it is not what Christianity teaches. The term, "Son of God," refers not to procreation but to a special relationship that Jesus has with God the Father.

The phrase, "Son of God," occurs 43 times in the New American Standard Bible, and it refers to Jesus. The term is specifically designated as a title in Romans 1:4, "who was declared the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead, according to the Spirit of holiness, Jesus Christ our Lord." Notice that it says that Jesus was declared the Son of God. This shows that it is a title and does not mean that He was begotten through sexual relations between God and Mary--which is a blasphemous thing to claim.

Also, Jesus calls Himself the Son in Mark 13:32, "But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone."1 And at Jesus' baptism, God speaks from Heaven and says, "Thou art My beloved Son, in Thee I am well-pleased." (Mark. 1:11). Clearly, Jesus is said that to be the Son of God by the Scriptures by the Father and by Himself.

To be continued...

Here are a few verses worth noting:

• John 1:49-50, "Nathanael answered Him, "Rabbi, You are the Son of God; You are the King of Israel." 50 Jesus answered and said to him, "Because I said to you that I saw you under the fig tree, do you believe? You shall see greater things than these."
Nathaniel calls Jesus the son of God, and Jesus does not correct him. Jesus affirms Nathaniel's belief.

• John 10:36-37, "do you say of Him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, "You are blaspheming," because I said, 'I am the Son of God?' 37 "If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me."
Jesus is affirming that He is the Son of God.

• John 11:4, "But when Jesus heard it, He said, "This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God may be glorified by it."
Jesus calls himself the Son of God.

• John 19:7, "The Jews answered him, "We have a law, and by that law He ought to die because He made Himself out to be the Son of God."
The Jews understood that to claim to be the Son of God was to claim to be equal with God.

• John 20:31, "but these have been written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name."
The apostle John wrote the Gospel so that we might know and believe that Jesus is the Son of God.

To be continued...

OLAADEGBU:


Here are a few verses worth noting:

• John 1:49-50, "Nathanael answered Him, "Rabbi, You are the Son of God; You are the King of Israel." 50 Jesus answered and said to him, "Because I said to you that I saw you under the fig tree, do you believe? You shall see greater things than these."
Nathaniel calls Jesus the son of God, and Jesus does not correct him. Jesus affirms Nathaniel's belief.

• John 10:36-37, "do you say of Him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, "You are blaspheming," because I said, 'I am the Son of God?' 37 "If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me."
Jesus is affirming that He is the Son of God.

• John 11:4, "But when Jesus heard it, He said, "This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God may be glorified by it."
Jesus calls himself the Son of God.

• John 19:7, "The Jews answered him, "We have a law, and by that law He ought to die because He made Himself out to be the Son of God."
The Jews understood that to claim to be the Son of God was to claim to be equal with God.

• John 20:31, "but these have been written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name."
The apostle John wrote the Gospel so that we might know and believe that Jesus is the Son of God.

To be continued...

Son of God and Son of Man:

Some say that the term, Son of God, does not mean that Jesus is God. We must ask then, does the term, Son of Man, mean that Jesus is not a man? Likewise, if the term, son of man, means that Jesus is a man, does it not imply that the term, Son of God, means that Jesus is God?

TBC...

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[size=14pt]If Jesus Is Called The Son Of God, Do You Think That Makes Him God?[/size]

Yes, like you alluded to:
the offspring of an animal is animal,
the son of a human is human,
the Son of God is God, and there is only one begotten Son of God,
the other son's of God are so called, because they obey Him.

Paul's version of Jesus vs American Nigga

johnw74:
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[size=14pt]If Jesus Is Called The Son Of God, Do You Think That Makes Him God?[/size]

Yes, like you alluded to:
the offspring of an animal is animal,
the son of a human is human,
the Son of God is God, and there is only one begotten Son of God,
the other son's of God are so called, because they obey Him.

We receive the spirit of God to be His adopted because we are seeds of the serpent through Cain. Adam was a son of God; his pure and uncorrupted seeds were called sons of God. Adam's lineage to the 7th generation (Enoch being the last) were sons of God until the entire humanity got mixed up with the sons of men (Descendants of Cain AKA serpent seeds) in Genesis 6 corrupting and making every man after that to have the seed of the serpent in them, which was why God sent his only begotten son to pay the price of redemption so as to set us free from the curse of death. No man was found worthy to pay the price, because only a man free from sin can pay for the freedom of the one who is a slave to sin....And the MIGHTY CONQUEROR, King Jesus Christ did it!

The lamb of God worthy to be praised....All glory honor, praise and adoration to the mighty savior through all ages world without end, amen!

It's common sense that the fallen angels are not son's of God
it's common sense that God's Angels are son's of God

it's common sense that worldly people are not son's of God
it's common sense that Christians are son's of God.

Joh_1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Rom_8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

God gave Jesus Christ revelation,
and the Lord Jesus Christ sent it to John by [size=14pt]His[/size] Angel - the Angel of the Lord Jesus Christ:

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by [size=14pt]his[/size] angel unto his servant John:

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent [size=14pt]mine[/size] angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.




The Lord Jesus Christ is the [size=14pt]Lord God[/size] of the Holy Prophets:

Rev_22:6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.





Jehovah and Jesus Christ is God:

The Angel of the Lord(God), is the Angel of the LORD(God) Jehovah, and the Angel of the Lord(God) Jesus Christ.

Zec_1:12 Then the angel of the LORD(Jehovah) answered and said, O LORD of hosts, how long wilt thou not have mercy on Jerusalem and on the cities of Judah, against which thou hast had indignation these threescore and ten years?

Rev_22:6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets(the Lord Jesus Christ) sent [size=14pt]his[/size] angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.

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The Angel of the Lord is the Angel of Jehovah, and the Angel of the Lord is the Angel of the Lord God of the Holy Prophets(Jesus Christ)

OLAADEGBU:


Son of God and Son of Man:

Some say that the term, Son of God, does not mean that Jesus is God. We must ask then, does the term, Son of Man, mean that Jesus is not a man? Likewise, if the term, son of man, means that Jesus is a man, does it not imply that the term, Son of God, means that Jesus is God?

TBC...

John 5:18, "Calling God His own Father"

"For this cause therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God."

Jesus is the Son of God, and He calls God His own Father. So, the problem is in understanding what the phrase Son of God means. Apparently, in the Biblical culture, it means to be equal with God as John the Apostle stated. For more information on this verse, see John 5:18, " . . . making Himself equal to God."