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Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by AjanleKoko: 11:26am On May 15, 2009
Hey all,
Here's something from Chinweizu, the Pan-Africanist writer, on the 'Arabnization agenda' of Africa.
I found it interesting reading.
Note that the author has requested that the article should not be tampered with when published on any public fora. My first glance indicates Moslem readers may not be particularly happy with a number of irreverent references to Islam, or the Prophet Muhammed (S.A.W). Nonetheless my view is that the publication is non-religious, and makes interesting reading for Moslems and Non-Moslem Black Africans. Make whatever you will of it.
I have to warn though, it's a rather long article. I edited this post and posted the link instead.
Enjoy!

http://www.ncobra-intl-affairs.org/Africa_resist.pdf
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by biina: 12:24pm On May 15, 2009
and to what end is this undecided
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by beneli(m): 12:50pm On May 15, 2009
biina:

and to what end is this undecided

To make us see the bigger picture.
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by AjanleKoko: 3:03pm On May 15, 2009
biina:

and to what end is this undecided

I can see the reading is rather painful. Kind of long and somehow not suitable for posting.

The synopsis is something like this: The writer is postulating that Ghadaffi's recent grandstandings with respect to the AU are actually grand designs to lead an Arab crusade into Africa, and enslave the blacks. Black moslems are not exempt, and the author cites various historical events, some quite recent, in places like Sudan, Chad, and Mauritania. He's seeking to raise black consciousness and promote the emergence of a Black Mega-State that can halt the so-called Arab advance.

Personally it's easy to dismiss the article as another conspiracy rant (some of the references like muslimwakeup.com didn't check out as the links were not available). However, recent events kind of indicate the possibility of aspirations of various races or states to recolonize Africa. Not a grand world design, but a chap like Ghadaffi might possibly be nursing such an agenda. Remember Hitler was dismissed as a nut in the early days of the Nazi party, up till when the Third Reich assumed power in Germany. So it is worth consideration and possible investigation in my view.

Your takes?
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by Lagosboy: 4:11pm On May 15, 2009
This post is just a garbage shit long piece of lazy intellectual analysis and an armchair write up. No intellectual will sit down and reference useless websites that any fool can put up on the internet.

The reference to islam is just sickening and the notion that the prophet preached arab superiority atr the expense of blacks is just one of the most nonseical things i have read in recent times. Somone posted a garbage like this yesterday on the islam section and had to even apologise when his lazy analysis were exposed.

Citing Tabari, ibn ishaq as sources for the traditions is not just ridiculous but it shows the authors long distance from the understanding of islamic source of jurispundence. Ibn sina is not a an islamic religous schola but a notable muslim scientist cum philosopher of blessed memory.

the inclusion of Ghadafii of nursing an arab islamic agenda is just crazy. Ghaddaffi is seen by millions f muslims as an unserious muslim and some dont even consider him a muslim. He his not religous in the least and the notion that every arab is a religous muslim is just false. Kwame Nkrurumah of Ghana called for the same US of Africa in the 50's and Ghaddaffis call is not new. Intellectuals should disagree based on real issues like economy bottleneck, cultute , language and other things not on shodddy consipairacy theories like this.

I cant even take the pain to fault this garbage paragraph by paragraph is just dont have the time. the author should bury his head in shame!!!!
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by awwalugon(m): 4:38pm On May 15, 2009
i ahte how we black ppl always jump into oh this ppl dnt like or respect us, well how do u expect them to respect us if all we do all over africa is kill eachother coz me and u are not from the same tribe or sum shit like that, tbh d only time ppl will start taking africa seriously is wen we put all dat shit behid us and come together as one and develop africa in the african sense. sory for the rant, sumtyms i jst get really emotiional bout stuf like these
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by iniguy(m): 4:48pm On May 15, 2009
The Arab can never dominate Black Africans, we are in the majority!
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by biina: 5:52pm On May 15, 2009
AjanleKoko:

I can see the reading is rather painful. Kind of long and somehow not suitable for posting.

The synopsis is something like this: The writer is postulating that Ghadaffi's recent grandstandings with respect to the AU are actually grand designs to lead an Arab crusade into Africa, and enslave the blacks. Black moslems are not exempt, and the author cites various historical events, some quite recent, in places like Sudan, Chad, and Mauritania. He's seeking to raise black consciousness and promote the emergence of a Black Mega-State that can halt the so-called Arab advance.

Personally it's easy to dismiss the article as another conspiracy rant (some of the references like muslimwakeup.com didn't check out as the links were not available). However, recent events kind of indicate the possibility of aspirations of various races or states to recolonize Africa. Not a grand world design, but a chap like Ghadaffi might possibly be nursing such an agenda. Remember Hitler was dismissed as a nut in the early days of the Nazi party, up till when the Third Reich assumed power in Germany. So it is worth consideration and possible investigation in my view.

Your takes?
I actually read the entire article before making my first post. I asked the question simply because I felt I had missed something, as I did not see the basis for the authors conclusions. The article seems more like shabby job to drum up sentiments against the arab and the muslim community, something we need less of.

Posting such an article is not beneficial to the community.
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by AjanleKoko: 11:48am On May 16, 2009
biina:

I actually read the entire article before making my first post. I asked the question simply because I felt I had missed something, as I did not see the basis for the authors conclusions. The article seems more like shabby job to drum up sentiments against the arab and the muslim community, something we need less of.

Posting such an article is not beneficial to the community.

The writer is Chinweizu. You may have heard of him. He's a popular Pan-Africanist, who's well-published. You might want to google him up.
I don't think the article is a direct assault against Islam per se, more against Arabs and some sort of Arab agenda against black people, Moslem or not. If I felt so, I would not even share it for discussion. It's possible Ghadaffi may have some wild ambitions to rule Africa and Arabia but the rest of the Arab world definitely can't stand him, and won't rally behind him, at least not today.
My intent wasn't to offend anyone. This article has been published in series in Businessday (in Nigeria) over the past eight weeks or so. I actually thought this would make for more interesting debate, rather than the usual 'Would you give up sex?' or some of the funnier stuff I see in the political section. This article I thought was touching on topics of a political nature. Notice he never quotes the Q'uran in any way, but he tries to examine historical events as it relates to Arabs.
Thanks.
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by nolongTing: 12:21pm On May 16, 2009
iniguy:

The Arab can never dominate Black Africans, we are in the majority!

Black power! grin cheesy wink smiley
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by auwal87(m): 12:37pm On May 16, 2009
Push them to the Sea (the Arabs) and wait for the outcome.
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by auwal87(m): 12:44pm On May 16, 2009
Blacks are not victims of Racism alone, they are also Racists!
Why on Earth will one just start trying to dis-organize the Continent using d so called racism against black people.
Let those black people that live in d Arab countries themselves criticize their situation not someone speak for them.

How do you even know that the continent belong to "black people" only.

When will dis "Skin Colour" differences get d hell out of black people's mind.
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by babzyshe: 3:26pm On May 16, 2009
I wonder why everybody is so scared of Arabs ruling Africa.

Unites States of Africa is a fantasy at the moment and only resides in the dreams of Great African Visionaries and unfortunately also in the dreams of self proclaimed mentally challenged tyrant rulers who have their selfish world domination ideas.

African nations cant even agree on issues like legitimacy of coups, mugabe, al bashir, and you think they will be selfless enough to handle complex matters arising from a USAfrica?

Abeg relax joh and stop worrying urself grin
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by Lagosboy: 12:45pm On May 18, 2009
AjanleKoko:

The writer is Chinweizu. You may have heard of him. He's a popular Pan-Africanist, who's well-published. You might want to google him up.

The popluarity of a person is not a factor in intelectualism. Someone could be popular for idiotic works for all i care. the artcicle is so poor and shoddy. It lacked any intellectual depth of any form.

AjanleKoko:

I don't think the article is a direct assault against Islam per se, more against Arabs and some sort of Arab agenda against black people, Moslem or not. If I felt so, I would not even share it for discussion. It's possible Ghadaffi may have some wild ambitions to rule Africa and Arabia but the rest of the Arab world definitely can't stand him, and won't rally behind him, at least not today.
My intent wasn't to offend anyone. This article has been published in series in Businessday (in Nigeria) over the past eight weeks or so. I actually thought this would make for more interesting debate, rather than the usual 'Would you give up sex?' or some of the funnier stuff I see in the political section. This article I thought was touching on topics of a political nature. Notice he never quotes the Q'uran in any way, but he tries to examine historical events as it relates to Arabs.
Thanks.


He never quotes from the quran but he quoted false narrations of the prophet, attributing racism to him and highlighting his disgust for black people. This is the biggest insult on his personality and the symbol of a faith. If the narrations were correct it would have been different.

You mention historical events of the arabs and he quoted the works of ibn ishaq, Tabari and co without checking if the narrations mentioned in this books are authentic or not.
He referenced a shoddy website which is just a stab into intellectualism and i find it more worrisome that a national daily could publish the posts.

could he not analyse the issue of US of africa from a more rational view as to the useless conspirace theory of arabs and blacks. how many times have u seen arabs kill themselves apart from Iraq lately. Its always black on black i wonder who is behind this as well.

Ife people will kill modakeke bothe from the same state, urhobo will fight itshekiris both from the same state, hausas will fight the non hausas in plataeu and so on.


all i can say is shame on the author
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by JJYOU: 1:04pm On May 18, 2009
some africans would rather go into arab slavery than see with clear eyes in the name of defending thier religion. gadimafia has spoken out too loud before on this. anyone with an ounce of right thinking should be very afraid every time they hear him say the word AU.

i dont trust anything being led by an arab especially the dictator and unstable gadimafia .
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by Horus(m): 1:42pm On May 18, 2009
The Arabs will never respect Black Africans and will continue to use their henchmen in Sudan and elsewhere to continue the extermination of Black Africans so they can depopulate the continent of Blacks and occupy it, as they have done in Northern Africa.
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by Lagosboy: 2:29pm On May 18, 2009
JJYOU:

some africans would rather go into arab slavery than see with clear eyes in the name of defending thier religion. gadimafia has spoken out too loud before on this. anyone with an ounce of right thinking should be very afraid every time they hear him say the word AU.

i dont trust anything being led by an arab especially the dictator and unstable gadimafia .

Arabs themselves dont like Ghadaffi and even me despise him. The question here is not Ghadafii but the issue of this post is about arab, islam and blacks. Try to read the article (i know it is long and boring) but you will see it lacks any sense.

The AU thing is not a new thing and even Nkrumah of Ghana clamoured for it. We should be all matured to tackle issues intellectually and not spew uneccessary sentiments. Nigerians are more racists otherwise you will not say such a racialilay incited comment

JJYOU:
i dont trust anything being led by an arab

If the americans said this about Obama , we will all be shouting racism. If the yorubas said this to the ibos we will scream tribalism.
If the US could leave its entire middle eastern military command in the hands of an arab General Abizaid then your comments are unfortunate and perhaps you could realise and think about it again.

It seems we are just a bunch of insecure people thats all i can say , otherwise if we had confidence in our abilities as a black nation why do we fear arab minority dominance. the AU Ghadaffi is calling for he hasnt said he will be the leader and any leader of such entity will be decided by the whole countries so why the fear.

We should bring some intellgient analysis in oppossing the call and not this sentiments here this is my point. Personally i am against some aspects of the call and i can table my issues and lets all have a debate but not based on this religous cum historical sentiments.
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by JJYOU: 3:01pm On May 18, 2009
Lagosboy:

Arabs themselves dont like Ghadaffi and even me despise him. The question here is not Ghadafii but the issue of this post is about arab, islam and blacks. Try to read the article (i know it is long and boring) but you will see it lacks any sense.

The AU thing is not a new thing and even Nkrumah of Ghana clamoured for it. We should be all matured to tackle issues intellectually and not spew uneccessary sentiments. Nigerians are more racists otherwise you will not say such a racialilay incited comment   [size=14pt] far away from home you have churches and mosques operating along tribal/ ethnic lines.  it is not about your beloved arabs  so relax you hear.[/size]

If the americans said this about Obama , we will all be shouting racism. If the yorubas said this to the ibos we will scream tribalism.  clever you. i once had a ma-in law to be. i paid her way for a visit only to say in my  house she love me but dont trust my tribe.  i add that she said it in her lovely language. so dont lecture me about any yoruba screaming tribalism.  we have triibalism in every nation it is not about blacks and arabs
If the US could leave its entire middle eastern military command in the hands of an arab General Abizaid then your comments are unfortunate and perhaps you could realise and think about it again. [size=14pt] ignorance is blizz my brother.  you dont know the systems of checks and balances these Govts run. so dont go there i beg.
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It seems we are just a bunch of insecure people thats all i can say , otherwise if we had confidence in our abilities as a black nation why do we fear arab minority dominance. the AU Ghadaffi is calling for he hasnt said he will be the leader and any leader of such entity will be decided by the whole countries so why the fear.   how can a collection of nations that can never feed its own  have confidence in the midst of mostly militant jihadists?

We should bring some intellgient analysis in oppossing the call and not this sentiments here this is my point. Personally i am against some aspects of the call and i can table my issues and lets all have a debate but not based on this religous cum historical sentiments.
as the official spokes person of the NL islamic society i know you are very clever and brilliant but what i cant understand is you not dropping your religious garment for one moment.

i am neraly 50 i should be able to say i dont do arabs. is that okay with you sir? by the way not all arabs are mole people.

lagosboy, are we united as a tribes, ethnic groups, state and country wide.  cant you see beyond religion for once?

have you asked yourself why the other african leaders who dont fully have a united country were not rushing to join nkrumahs AU vision.

is it not the same bunch of crooks who cant work OAU,  ecowas and others that you are going to operate the AU with?  or you are going to breed  a special set of beaurocrats for the AU project.
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by Lagosboy: 3:44pm On May 18, 2009
JJYOU:

as the official spokes person of the NL islamic society i know you are very clever and brilliant but what i cant understand is you not dropping your religious garment for one moment.[/b]i am neraly 50 i should be able to say i dont do arabs. is that okay with you sir? by the way not all arabs are mole people.

lagosboy, are we united as a tribes, ethnic groups, state and country wide.  cant you see beyond religion for once?

It seems we are converging little by little. If you read my post well you will se my first action was why the fusion of religion into this matter and you say i am not dropping my religous garment. I am not one of those who cant see beyond and always hide behind their religion in constrcting arguements. My defence of islam comes into play when the author of the article levelled institutional racism at the doorstep of islam and not just arabs. I dont defend arabs but i defend islam if a lie is being postulated.
[b]
Arab is a race and islam is a faith, islam is a faith that transcends race.


The whole point of my posts was lets argue and debate based on a different matter and not based on rellgion and Arab dominance.

JJYOU:

have you asked yourself why the other african leaders who dont fully have a united country were not rushing to join nkrumahs AU vision.

is it not the same bunch of crooks who cant work OAU,  ecowas and others that you are going to operate the AU with?  or you are going to breed  a special set of beaurocrats for the AU project. 

Now it seems the debate has just begun and this is what i am clamouring for, i can deduce from your point ur disagreement with the thing is based on the disunity in diversity of afrcians which is a very valid point and we can talk and tackle this point.
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by JJYOU: 5:30pm On May 18, 2009
Lagosboy:

It seems we are converging little by little. If you read my post well you will se my first action was why the fusion of religion into this matter and you say i am not dropping my religous garment. I am not one of those who cant see beyond and always hide behind their religion in constrcting arguements. My defence of islam comes into play when the author of the article levelled institutional racism at the doorstep of islam and not just arabs. I dont defend arabs but i defend islam if a lie is being postulated.

Arab is a race and islam is a faith, islam is a faith that transcends race.


The whole point of my posts was lets argue and debate based on a different matter and not based on rellgion and Arab dominance.

Now it seems the debate has just begun and this is what i am clamouring for, i can deduce from your point ur disagreement with the thing is based on the disunity in diversity of afrcians which is a very valid point and we can talk and tackle this point.


we are all gradually getting there. there is more to this business of AU. gadafi being who he is will never do a thing and not want to lead it. a lady who went to one of his summits in libya told me the man said some quite disturbing things plus he was throwing money to people in such a way you will think he was pay master general of africa.

knowing people of his mindset, like the IBBs, mugabe and mubbarak of this world it always have to be them. can you see a world gadimafia does this thing without rulling it? if you to your history books you will see it is the fear that kwame wanted to be presido that lost him support.

lets do a loose network and fine tune AU or whatever i dont trust the pepper soup good for nothing self appointed theives we call leaders in africa. imagine one person having power to fix the prize for food and cement in africa. they always use everything against the masses so i wont support the idea.

the EU here reduced prices of most commodities, clothes and everyday items in europe until we can get good smart heads that willl not give the continent to cartels my vote is always against it.
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by AjanleKoko: 5:52pm On May 18, 2009
Guys,
Phooey!!! for a minute there was going to 'pour you both water'!
Anyways, I don't think there's a tangible conspiracy in any case. For one thing, the Western powers will never let Ghadaffi have his way, even if he's got grand designs on the continent.
I think it's possible he may be nursing an agenda (recall my Hitler analogy), but that's where it ends. The AU is probably dead on arrival.
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by bawomolo(m): 6:56pm On May 18, 2009
ghadaffi is more of an opportunity though. I don't think anyone takes him seriously (arabs or blacks).

by the way, Ghadaffi is bedouin and not Arab
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by Nobody: 6:05am On May 19, 2009
Lagos boy is always kissing the Arabs' asses. History will repeat it self if you don't know and it'll do until you know it. Your bitch ass should research on Zanzibar and how every African slave that mistakenly looked at an Arab woman will be beheaded and a Magnolia tree planted over his grave. I don't hate Arabs, I hate their doctrines. Hell I was dating Arab girls back in England. I don't care about your race, your doctrines are all I need to know. Who started slavery? Europeans? sucker, keep kissing asses to get 72 virgins. That's not in the Quran? read a again. Beat your wife Al Nisa (Sura 4:34) Convert or be a slave or pay taxes or be beheaded Sura (9:11, 2:193, 9:5, 9:29, ). Also dumb nuts, read the apostle of Bukhari. What else is there to defend in your imported religion? Shut up cause you are becoming annoying.

Shut up dumb ass and suck it up!!!!!!! You suck. And don't come up with your "you insult me so I won't debate with you crap" sensitive idiota; who wants to debate with a crap for brain, ass kissing, no sense of self, fat ass seed of chunky, Quran thumbing slowpoke? Even Arabs don't like their religion ( Have you seen them leaving their countries?) By the millions crap hole, by the millions. Fuk you and suck it up once more bitch. Put Africa first before your religion or tribe and things will be a little better if not a lot better. Sucker master!!!!!! /

Shhhhhhhh don't say shit bitch, I said suck it up. Now flame all you want!!!!!!!! I don vex for this guy abeg!!! No offence to anyone else just this guy that thinks defending this religion without reading the Quran himself will help at all? If you believe Allah created this world, why can't you believe that Orumila created it too? Dumb Bleep!!!!!!
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by Lagosboy: 9:47am On May 19, 2009
9jaganja:

Lagos boy is always kissing the Arabs' asses. History will repeat it self if you don't know and it'll do until you know it. Your bitch ass should research on Zanzibar and how every African slave that mistakenly looked at an Arab woman will be beheaded and a Magnolia tree planted over his grave. I don't hate Arabs, I hate their doctrines. Hell I was dating Arab girls back in England. I don't care about your race, your doctrines are all I need to know. Who started slavery? Europeans? sucker, keep kissing asses to get 72 virgins. That's not in the Quran? read a again. Beat your wife Al Nisa (Sura 4:34) Convert or be a slave or pay taxes or be beheaded Sura (9:11, 2:193, 9:5, 9:29, ). Also dumb nuts, read the apostle of Bukhari. What else is there to defend in your imported religion? Shut up cause you are becoming annoying.

Shut up dumb ass and suck it up!!!!!!! You suck. And don't come up with your "you insult me so I won't debate with you crap" sensitive idiota; who wants to debate with a crap for brain, ass kissing, no sense of self, fat ass seed of chunky, Quran thumbing slowpoke? Even Arabs don't like their religion ( Have you seen them leaving their countries?) By the millions crap hole, by the millions. Fuk you and suck it up once more bitch. Put Africa first before your religion or tribe and things will be a little better if not a lot better. Sucker master!!!!!! /

Shhhhhhhh don't say shit bitch, I said suck it up. Now flame all you want!!!!!!!! I don vex for this guy abeg!!! No offence to anyone else just this guy that thinks defending this religion without reading the Quran himself will help at all? If you believe Allah created this world, why can't you believe that Orumila created it too? Dumb mess!!!!!!

Your post was at 6.05 am and i think you dont live in north america, Did your mrs refuse you last nite in bed? Then u thought u should pick on lagosboy, abeg dont blow an artery cos of me o. I couldnt stop laughing at your post honestly it seemed like a joke to me.

Anyway relax and chill  out yeah , when u want to talk on real issues ranging from economy, border control, integration, defence, agriculure, commerce and trade, monetary policies and the workability of  a choesive AU then come back. If you also want to talk religion go to the islam section and talk on  it lots of people there to debate with you. Chill out bro life is too beautiful to get worked up like this!!!
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by Nobody: 6:11pm On May 19, 2009
Lagosboy:

Your post was at 6.05 am and i think you dont live in north america, Did your mrs refuse you last nite in bed? Then u thought u should pick on lagosboy, abeg dont blow an artery cos of me o. I couldnt stop laughing at your post honestly it seemed like a joke to me.

Anyway relax and chill  out yeah , when u want to talk on real issues ranging from economy, border control, integration, defence, agriculure, commerce and trade, monetary policies and the workability of  a choesive AU then come back. If you also want to talk religion go to the islam section and talk on  it lots of people there to debate with you. Chill out bro life is too beautiful to get worked up like this!!!
See how Ignorant and stupid you are? North America doesn't have one time zone mumu and I'm currently in Vancouver to see my mum. Why would I want to talk about political issues with someone who thinks North America has the same time zone? That's like having a debate with Palin on Africa when she thinks Africa is a Country. Dolo abeg go seat down!!

Shut up I said. You are annoying! Everyone here has the right to their own Opinion as this is not an Islamic republic so stop thinking you are Mr correct and should correct everyone Retardo!!

That is you.

Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by Lagosboy: 9:10am On May 20, 2009
I better move on to debate with people who have contributed something positive and relevant to this thread and not get distracted as i will never[b] stoop so low to trade words with you [/b] no matter how much of your typing and insults.

JJYOU:

we are all gradually getting there. there is more to this business of AU. gadafi being who he is will never do a thing and not want to lead it. a lady who went to one of his summits in libya told me the man said some quite disturbing things plus he was throwing money to people in such a way you will think he was pay master general of africa.

Yeah Ghaddafi is obsessed with power and even like to call himself the kings of kings, he his an erratic fellow but i admire his guts to be honest. I found it worrisome when T.Blair went to libya in 2004 to shake his hand just to seal oil deals for BP and other companies. Money will indeed make anyone lose their sense of shame. Condo Rice i think also paid mad dog ghadaffi a visit.

JJYOU:

knowing people of his mindset, like the IBBs, mugabe and mubbarak of this world it always have to be them. can you see a world gadimafia does this thing without rulling it? if you to your history books you will see it is the fear that kwame wanted to be presido that lost him support.

lets do a loose network and fine tune AU or whatever i dont trust the pepper soup good for nothing self appointed theives we call leaders in africa. imagine one person having power to fix the prize for food and cement in africa. they always use everything against the masses so i wont support the idea,

I think somethiong in the nature of EU might do a lot of good to Africa . Free movement of goods and citizens and a strong economic policy with a degree of autonomy to individual countries.

One leader cannot be permamanent in sucha an arrangement and it will definately be a rotating thing so Ghadaffi cannot be a life leader of such an arrangement. However i will not want him to be the first leader because of peoples perception of him.

I was just wondering if you take Ghaddaffi out of the equation what will be your view on this.


the EU here reduced prices of most commodities, clothes and everyday items in europe until we can get good smart heads that willl not give the continent to cartels my vote is always against it.

Yeah thats a positive thing we could learn from.
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by auwal87(m): 10:43am On May 21, 2009
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Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by auwal87(m): 10:45am On May 21, 2009
He LOVES Africa!
All Flags of African Countries on his shirt, including Nigeria.
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by auwal87(m): 10:50am On May 21, 2009
Back to the Topic

(From WIKIPEDIA)
The "United States of Africa" was mentioned first by the Jamaican thinker Marcus Garvey in his poem 'Hail, United States of Africa' in 1924. Garvey's ideas deeply influenced the birth of the Pan-Africanist movement which culminated in 1945 with the Fifth Pan-African Congress in Manchester, United Kingdom, attended by W.E.B. Du Bois, Patrice Lumumba, George Padmore, Jomo Kenyatta and Kwame Nkrumah.

Later, Nkrumah and Haile Selassie (among many others) took the idea forward to form the 37 nation Organisation of African Unity, the forerunner of today's African Union.

The idea of a multinational unifying African state is seen by the French publication Le Monde diplomatique as a successor to the medieval African empires: the Ethiopian Empire, the Ghana Empire, the Mali Empire, the Songhai Empire, the Benin Empire, the Kanem Empire and other historic nation states.
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by auwal87(m): 10:59am On May 21, 2009
The BIGGEST DREAM OF THIS MAN!



http://www.marcusgarvey.com/

Let us SUPPORT the creation of the United States of Africa. With this, Nigerian state, will be divided into multiple states of Hausa, Igbo, Yoruba, and the rest of major ethnic groups. And we will have PEACE for EVER!!!!!

My only condition is, let each state control their own Natural resources.

I wish to live up to the day that I will hold a passport of "UNITED STATES OF AFRICA".

"Africa, Lets unite!" Bob Marley!

Africa Unite Bob Marley Foundation
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by auwal87(m): 11:02am On May 21, 2009
BOB MARLEY "AFRICA UNITE" Lyrics

Africa, unite
cause were moving right out of babylon
And were going to our fathers land

How good and how pleasant it would be
Before God and man, yeah
To see the unification of all africans, yeah
As its been said already let it be done, yeah
We are the children of the rastaman
We are the children of the higher man

Africa, unite cause the children wanna come home
Africa, unite cause were moving right out of babylon
And were grooving to our fathers land

How good and how pleasant it would be
Before God and man
To see the unification of all rastaman, yeah

As its been said already let it be done, yeah
I tell you who we are under the sun
We are the children of the rastaman
We are the children of the higher man

So, africa, unite, africa, unite
Unite for the benefit of your people
Unite for its later than you think

Unite for the benefit of your children
Unite for its later than you think
Africa awaits its creators, africa awaiting its creators
Africa, youre my forefather cornerstone
Unite for the africans abroad, unite for the africans a yard
Africa, unite
Re: Arab Domination Of The Au: Implication For Africans by tpia5: 11:09pm On Aug 22, 2011
nolongTing:

Black power!  grin cheesy wink smiley

aye e ti baje sha.

so you're trying to foist your personal vendetta on others?

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