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Is The Bible Safe For Children? by Nobody: 8:31pm On Nov 11, 2015
What lesson is this story supposed to impress upon young minds? embarassed


Judges 19
While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they shouted to the old man who owned the house, “Bring out the man who came to your house so we can have sex with him.”

23 The owner of the house went outside and said to them, “No, my friends, don’t be so vile. Since this man is my guest, don’t do this outrageous thing. 24 Look, here is my virgin daughter, and his concubine. I will bring them out to you now, and you can use them and do to them whatever you wish. But as for this man, don’t do such an outrageous thing.”

25 But the men would not listen to him. So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. 26 At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight.

27 When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. 28 He said to her, “Get up; let’s go.” But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.

29 When he reached home, he took a knife and cut up his concubine, limb by limb, into twelve parts and sent them into all the areas of Israel.

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Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by sonmvayina(m): 8:37pm On Nov 11, 2015
You know the answer..
Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by hahn(m): 8:52pm On Nov 11, 2015
The world will be a much better place without "God"

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Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by OKUCHI11(m): 8:56pm On Nov 11, 2015
pls I am here to learn and not to criticise any religion
Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by OKUCHI11(m): 8:57pm On Nov 11, 2015
hahn:
The world will be a much better place without "God"
pls expanciate
Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by malvisguy212: 9:11pm On Nov 11, 2015
sonOfLucifer you misinterpret the verse, the woman pay for here sin she committed in verse two. God is love ,just because God is love doesent mean God will ignored sins. God love required justice, everyone will pay for the sin they commit.

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Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by hahn(m): 9:30pm On Nov 11, 2015
OKUCHI11:
pls expanciate

Let me try. When man created "God", the need to create "Satan" also arose. Without satan, god would be useless as satan just so happens to be the fall guy for god's incompetence.

Ever since man created god we created an excuse for our folly and selfish desires. Many evils prepetrated by man have been said to be either "god's will", in a bid to justify it, or "the work of the devil" in a bid place blame on an imaginary entity instead of taking responsibility for one's mistake. There are many examples in the bible where the Israelites(also known as god's children) carried out series of murders, rape, theft etc on their enemies all in the name of being "directed by god". This barbarism continued during the crusades, during slavery when Europeans came to Africa to pick slaves and bind them in the most savage and inhumane manner while they sang songs of praises to their god at the top deck.

In recent times, muslim extremists have committed similar atrocities all in "the name of allah". We have seen cases of bombings, acts of terrorism, women enslavement, the selling of women and kids as young as 3 years old off as sex slaves to be used and passed around like pieces of fried meat strictly for pleasure, the killing of other humans who do not share the same beliefs etc all in "the name of Allah"

In the bible, Abraham claimed "god told him" to kill Isaac and even though Isaac didn't end up dying in the hands of his father, Abraham took his time to sharpen his cutlass, call out to Isaac to prepare their things and climb up to the mountain. Now, many people(Christians and Muslims alike) will say that Abraham was "obedient" and a true servant of "the lord" or of "allah" and this barbaric act is seen as an example of obedience towards god. Now, imagine, what if your neighbour, your wife or your husband was to one day wake up and tell you that "god told him or her" to kill their kid or your kid, will you applaud him for obeying "the heavenly father" or give him a good slap with the aim of helping him regain his senses?

Without "God" (please understand that the word "god" as used here refers to all concepts of a supreme being and not directed at any specific religion and I have only used the above illustrations because we live in a society where the "god" concept is either christian or muslim) everyone would take responsibility for their actions. If you decide to murder someone it won't be because the devil pushed you into doing it or because the action for which you killed the person (in the case of theft of gayism which are the two top reasons for lynching people in this country) is against "god's" will but rather because of your own selfish reasons.

This also applies to being good. The ideology that doing good pleases "the lord" or "allah" will be replaced with the ideology that "doing good is just good" and everyone deserves a hug, some spare change, a meal, a roof over their heads or just someone to talk to.

I hope this sums it up for you smiley

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Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by Nobody: 9:34pm On Nov 11, 2015
Children indoctrination is synonymous with child abuse and Australia has taken a bold step by banning religion in schools.

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Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by hahn(m): 9:47pm On Nov 11, 2015
aaronson:
Children indoctrination is synonymous with child abuse and Australia has taken a bold step by banning religion in school.

Wow! That's great. Nigeria needs such laws so as to encourage it's citizens think for themselves and not rely on their imaginary friend to solve their problems for them

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Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by OKUCHI11(m): 9:49pm On Nov 11, 2015
hahn:
The world will be a much better place without "God"
thank you .....are u acquainted with philosophy of religion.....just curious
Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by OKUCHI11(m): 9:49pm On Nov 11, 2015
hahn:
The world will be a much better place without "God"
thank you
Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by Freksy(m): 9:56pm On Nov 11, 2015
OKUCHI11:
pls expanciate


EXPATIATE
Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by OKUCHI11(m): 9:57pm On Nov 11, 2015
Freksy:


EXPATIATE
I got it thank you

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Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by Nobody: 10:05pm On Nov 11, 2015
malvisguy212:
sonOfLucifer you misinterpret the verse, the woman pay for here sin she committed in verse two. God is love ,just because God is love doesent mean God will ignored sins. God love required justice, everyone will pay for the sin they commit.
Malvis, come on man, you can do much better than this. Ask the Holy Spirit for help.

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Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by Nobody: 10:15pm On Nov 11, 2015
hahn:


Wow! That's great. Nigeria needs such laws so as to encourage it's citizens think for themselves and not rely on their imaginary friend to solve their problems for them
Ha ha, Bros you make me laugh, Nigeria of all countries, let's not even think of it. That law is far more worst than that gay right bill, for an average Nigerian, if am lying, conduct a survey in your area tomorrow and see.

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Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by johnydon22(m): 10:22pm On Nov 11, 2015
[b]Both the bible and the Quran are relics of a barbaric past that has an unfortunate hold on 21st century beings.

It is from such books that Children are encouraged to pray and fast for economic development instead of working for it by employing basic economic tactics of the society.

Such books introduce them to a stark world view filled with abject violence, misogyny, chronic savagery, barbarism and introduce in them psychological fear of abstract concepts like satans and demons.

Such superstitious hunk of ancient eloquent poetry is quite dangerous to the intellectual development of 21st century beings because the only way to murder the intellectual evolution of our specie is to indoctrinate in them unsubstantiated beliefs of the past.

I do not support introduction of young minds to such books such as Bible, Quran or even Hindu Veda.

The little ones know nothing or understand things hatred, misogyny, discrimination or violent unjust capital punishments filled in these books neither are they up to the age of separating what they find to be implausible to what they find not to be... What we teach them is what they take.

This is the reason many adults still believe a donkey talked to a man and he didn't find it unusual that a donkey talked and ran the hell out of there, or that an arab man split the moon. . . this is because they were indoctrinated and introduced to these books at a very young age.

Such books is the reason why some think something that allegedly was big enough to create the universe, billions of galaxies, trillions of planets and uncountable stars came to a tiny insignificant planet in the orions arm of the milky way and indulged into a childish show of fighting with humans and trying to show off to a pharaoh and needs humans to worship it or it burns them..

These books like Medicines should be kept out of the reach of Children until they are up to age of reasoning for themselves and sound volitive ability.

But on another note i still recommend these books can be enjoyed as a piece of ancient antiquity and eloquent depiction of noble ancient world views just like Epic of Gilgamesh, Enuma- Elis, Maat, Codes of Uruk and many other eloquent ancient works of art..
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Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by malvisguy212: 11:00pm On Nov 11, 2015
sonOfLucifer:

Malvis, come on man, you can do much better than this. Ask the Holy Spirit for help.
read the whole context.

@ all atheists, any accusations you guys label against religion, the same can be said of atheism, atheists are the worst.
In Darwin’s time there was an idea
among the nobility that their genetics
were superior to those of the rest of
society. Many families including Darwin’s
took this belief to extreme levels by
practicing incest as a tradition.
They thought that if adolescents were to
marry within their own family then not
only would all the wealth stay in the
family, but the “good” genes would also.
This also ensured that the family
fortunes would be retained for many
future generations. This practice is very
common in aristocratic families, which
explains why they are all extremely
mentally unstable. Darwin came from a
very classist and racist elite level of
society and that is reflected in his work,
especially “The Descent of Man”.
One of the most famous cases of royal
incest is found in the Hapsburg dynasty
that produced rulers in Spain, Austria,
Hungary, Belgium, the Netherlands and
the German empire. Around 1700 the
Spanish branch of this empire fell apart
suddenly and died off.
Recent studies of the Hapsburg Family
Tree show that sickness and deformity
due to incest was responsible for the
sudden demise of this “royal bloodline”.
The most successful political dynasty in
America, the Bush family is notorious for
inbreeding.
In fact, George Bush Sr. and his wife
Barbara Bush are actually in the same
bloodline, which is the Pierce or Percy
bloodline. The British house of this
bloodline is named Percy and the
American house is named Pierce. The
elite’s family structures are very
complicated with many “houses” and
surnames that are omitted from the
public dialogue to avoid scrutiny and
cover up their ongoing eugenics
experiments.
I am only singling out the Bush family
because it’s an example that those of you
in the west will recognize, but in
countries all over the world, in every
continent there are elitists and monarchs
who hold this world view.
The ruling class of every nation is
obsessed with breeding and is using the
best of our advanced technology and
medical science to guarantee that their
heirs will be somehow thoroughbred.
Since the aristocracy has been practicing
selective breeding for centuries they are
under the impression that they are
already of a superior stock to the rest of
humanity, thanks to the “care” that their
ancestors took in breeding. This is of
course just an egotistical delusion that
justifies their exploitative treatment
towards the rest of humanity.
Darwin’s other dehumanizing ideology is
his “survival of the fittest” mantra.
Darwin didn’t just come up with this
philosophy out of thin air, this was
actually an idea that has been
traditionally held by families of nobility
since before the Middle Ages. It was this
philosophy that the aristocracy used to
justify their inhumane treatment of the
serfs and peons that built their empires
and tended to their fields.
The saying “survival of the fittest” was
actually coined by an aristocrat named
Thomas Robert Malthus who was openly
brutal and inhumane in his descriptions
of the poor or as he called them “the
lower races”.
In a 1798 publication called “An Essay on
the Principle of Population” Malthus
suggested that planned food shortages
could be used to decrease the
population of the poor through
starvation. This was the root for the idea
of “population control”, because a large
population is very difficult for the elite to
manage while retaining their own wealth
and power. Malthus suggested that the
streets should be made narrower and
more people should be crowded into
living quarters to encourage conditions
that would bring back the plague. In that
same essay he said that villages should
be built next to stagnant pools where
germs could fester and all remedies and
cures would only be available to those
who could afford it.
In his own words
“we are bound in justice and honor
formally to disclaim the right of the poor
to support. To this end, I should propose
a regulation be made declaring that no
child born should ever be entitled to
parish assistance. This infant is
comparatively speaking, of little value to
society , as others will immediately
supply its place…All children beyond
what would be required to keep up the
population to this level must perish,
unless room be made for them by the
deaths of grown persons.” [1]
Read more.
https://www.intellihub.com/darwinism-eugenics-and-the-silent-genocide/

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Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by malvisguy212: 11:06pm On Nov 11, 2015
Any atheists care to answer this questions!!

Do you want there to be a God? Why/why not? What would He be like if the answer is yes.
Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by donnffd(m): 11:21pm On Nov 11, 2015
malvisguy212:
sonOfLucifer you misinterpret the verse, the woman pay for here sin she committed in verse two. God is love ,just because God is love doesent mean God will ignored sins. God love required justice, everyone will pay for the sin they commit.

Then what is the essence of hell? I tot hell was for punishment

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Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by donnffd(m): 11:24pm On Nov 11, 2015
malvisguy212:
Any atheists care to answer this questions!!

Do you want there to be a God? Why/why not? What would He be like if the answer is yes.

Yes I would love the idea of an all powerful being watching over all of us...first of all,I wud ask him to give me my own planet,and then we wud gist alot about the fundamentals of reality and all the knowledge ever possible of knowing...but like Santa and unicorns,that just fairytale

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Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by ValerianSteel(m): 12:43am On Nov 12, 2015
The stories are fascinating to kids and at times they help build a sense of morality and godliness but the logic behind the message of certain parts of the bible are dangerous and harmful to cognitive and affective domains of a child.Very harmful I must say.

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Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by Redlyn: 12:47am On Nov 12, 2015
malvisguy212:
Any atheists care to answer this questions!!

Do you want there to be a God? Why/why not? What would He be like if the answer is yes.

Yes, I wouldnt mind there to be a God. In principle it sounds great to have an ultimate cosmic being looking out for me. He would be loving and generous kind carefree. He wouldn't hurt anyone no matter what the person did. We'd talk and he would explain things to me in a way I can appreciate. He would be nothing like the judeo-christian God and he certainly wouldn't create a world with evil and suffering. But this is just wishful thinking, far from reality.

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Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by PRISTINEMUSCLES: 12:53am On Nov 12, 2015
Almost all the posts here sound so repulsive. Damn, all these just shows that the end of the world is almost at hand.

JESUS CHRIST IS LORD
Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by dalaman: 3:10am On Nov 12, 2015
johnydon22:
[b]Both the bible and the Quran are relics of a barbaric past that has an unfortunate hold on 21st century beings.

It is from such books that Children are encouraged to pray and fast for economic development instead of working for it by employing basic economic tactics of the society.

Such books introduce them to a stark world view filled with abject violence, misogyny, chronic savagery, barbarism and introduce in them psychological fear of abstract concepts like satans and demons.

Such superstitious hunk of ancient eloquent poetry is quite dangerous to the intellectual development of 21st century beings because the only way to murder the intellectual evolution of our specie is to indoctrinate in them unsubstantiated beliefs of the past.

I do not support introduction of young minds to such books such as Bible, Quran or even Hindu Veda.

The little ones know nothing or understand things hatred, misogyny, discrimination or violent unjust capital punishments filled in these books neither are they up to the age of separating what they find to be implausible to what they find not to be... What we teach them is what they take.

This is the reason many adults still believe a donkey talked to a man and he didn't find it unusual that a donkey talked and ran the hell out of there, or that an arab man split the moon. . . this is because they were indoctrinated and introduced to these books at a very young age.

Such books is the reason why some think something that allegedly was big enough to create the universe, billions of galaxies, trillions of planets and uncountable stars came to a tiny insignificant planet in the orions arm of the milky way and indulged into a childish show of fighting with humans and trying to show off to a pharaoh and needs humans to worship it or it burns them..

These books like Medicines should be kept out of the reach of Children until they are up to age of reasoning for themselves and sound volitive ability.

But on another note i still recommend these books can be enjoyed as a piece of ancient antiquity and eloquent depiction of noble ancient world views just like Epic of Gilgamesh, Enuma- Elis, Maat, Codes of Uruk and many other eloquent ancient works of art..
[/b]

Both the Bible and the Koran place more emphasis on our need to fear God than love God, for God's retribution and punishment is the worst thing that can happen to you. Now, you cannot be fearful and at peace at the same time. If God can be violent towards you, and that is okay, what unconscious message does that send to a child?

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Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by johnydon22(m): 7:24am On Nov 12, 2015
dalaman:


Both the Bible and the Koran place more emphasis on our need to fear God than love God, for God's retribution and punishment is the worst thing that can happen to you. Now, you cannot be fearful and at peace at the same time. If God can be violent towards you, and that is okay, what unconscious message does that send to a child?

The basis of such message centers on the need to instill morality via Godly fear factor, like i have always affirmed such disturbing position is diminishing to a child's mind, can bolt a child down the prison of their own guilt.

You are very correct from what you asserted above and i would say such message instills on a child the mindset that threat of torture and violence to ensure conformity is a just course.

It is a disturbing yet true effect of these books, that is why we have humans who are ok with the idea of other humans (Billions of them) burning in a fire forever while they bask in the euphoria of an ever good paradise.

The basis of such belief is more fear than it is faith.. ...

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Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by malvisguy212: 8:30am On Nov 12, 2015
donnffd:


Then what is the essence of hell? I tot hell was for punishment
hell is for satan and demon.
Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by dalaman: 8:42am On Nov 12, 2015
malvisguy212:
hell is for satan and demon.

And the unbelievers that do no believe in the mythology supposedly. All will burn in that fictitious fire for their unbelief.

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Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by plaetton: 9:15am On Nov 12, 2015
sonOfLucifer:

Malvis, come on man, you can do much better than this. Ask the Holy Spirit for help.

I swear.

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Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by plaetton: 9:18am On Nov 12, 2015
malvisguy212:
Any atheists care to answer this questions!!

Do you want there to be a God? Why/why not? What would He be like if the answer is yes.

What exactly does humanity need a god For ?

I have asking this question for a long time.

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Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by hahn(m): 9:20am On Nov 12, 2015
OKUCHI11:
thank you .....are u acquainted with philosophy of religion.....just curious

I really don't understand what you mean by the "philosophy of religion". Mind elaborating?
Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:27am On Nov 12, 2015
plaetton:


What exactly does humanity need a god For ?

I have asking this question for a long time.

Why do you think people call on God ?

Lemme give you one instance :

A man suffering from a terminal disease who has a pregnant wife . After so many years of bareness , she finally conceived and since the disease is terminal he wont be able to see his unborn child cry . He also has lots of dreams he wants to pursue and accomplish . He wants to see his baby boy grow and become a great person in life .

Since everything else failed , what do you think he should do?

Oh dear that story was really poignant
Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by plaetton: 9:28am On Nov 12, 2015
malvisguy212:
read the whole context.

@ all atheists, any accusations you guys label against religion, the same can be said of atheism, atheists are the worst.
In Darwin’s time there was an idea
among the nobility that their genetics
were superior to those of the rest of
society. Many families including Darwin’s
took this belief to extreme levels by
practicing incest as a tradition.
They thought that if adolescents were to
marry within their own family then not
only would all the wealth stay in the
family, but the “good” genes would also.
This also ensured that the family
fortunes would be retained for many
future generations. This practice is very
common in aristocratic families, which
explains why they are all extremely
mentally unstable. Darwin came from a
very classist and racist elite level of
society and that is reflected in his work,
especially “The Descent of Man”.
One of the most famous cases of royal
incest is found in the Hapsburg dynasty
that produced rulers in Spain, Austria,
Hungary, Belgium, the Netherlands and
the German empire. Around 1700 the
Spanish branch of this empire fell apart
suddenly and died off.
Recent studies of the Hapsburg Family
Tree show that sickness and deformity
due to incest was responsible for the
sudden demise of this “royal bloodline”.
The most successful political dynasty in
America, the Bush family is notorious for
inbreeding.
In fact, George Bush Sr. and his wife
Barbara Bush are actually in the same
bloodline, which is the Pierce or Percy
bloodline. The British house of this
bloodline is named Percy and the
American house is named Pierce. The
elite’s family structures are very
complicated with many “houses” and
surnames that are omitted from the
public dialogue to avoid scrutiny and
cover up their ongoing eugenics
experiments.
I am only singling out the Bush family
because it’s an example that those of you
in the west will recognize, but in
countries all over the world, in every
continent there are elitists and monarchs
who hold this world view.
The ruling class of every nation is
obsessed with breeding and is using the
best of our advanced technology and
medical science to guarantee that their
heirs will be somehow thoroughbred.
Since the aristocracy has been practicing
selective breeding for centuries they are
under the impression that they are
already of a superior stock to the rest of
humanity, thanks to the “care” that their
ancestors took in breeding. This is of
course just an egotistical delusion that
justifies their exploitative treatment
towards the rest of humanity.
Darwin’s other dehumanizing ideology is
his “survival of the fittest” mantra.
Darwin didn’t just come up with this
philosophy out of thin air, this was
actually an idea that has been
traditionally held by families of nobility
since before the Middle Ages. It was this
philosophy that the aristocracy used to
justify their inhumane treatment of the
serfs and peons that built their empires
and tended to their fields.
The saying “survival of the fittest” was
actually coined by an aristocrat named
Thomas Robert Malthus who was openly
brutal and inhumane in his descriptions
of the poor or as he called them “the
lower races”.
In a 1798 publication called “An Essay on
the Principle of Population” Malthus
suggested that planned food shortages
could be used to decrease the
population of the poor through
starvation. This was the root for the idea
of “population control”, because a large
population is very difficult for the elite to
manage while retaining their own wealth
and power. Malthus suggested that the
streets should be made narrower and
more people should be crowded into
living quarters to encourage conditions
that would bring back the plague. In that
same essay he said that villages should
be built next to stagnant pools where
germs could fester and all remedies and
cures would only be available to those
who could afford it.
In his own words
“we are bound in justice and honor
formally to disclaim the right of the poor
to support. To this end, I should propose
a regulation be made declaring that no
child born should ever be entitled to
parish assistance. This infant is
comparatively speaking, of little value to
society , as others will immediately
supply its place…All children beyond
what would be required to keep up the
population to this level must perish,
unless room be made for them by the
deaths of grown persons.” [1]
Read more.
https://www.intellihub.com/darwinism-eugenics-and-the-silent-genocide/

This where ignorance goes full re.tard.

Here is a guy, pretending that atheism is a competing religion, and then he goes to use Darwin and Darwin's family to make his twisted logic.

The only thing he forgot is that Darwin was never an atheist, talkess of promoting it.
Darwin only discovered certain biological facts previously unknown in his era.
His discoveries and the theories he propounded have withstood 150yrs of rigorous scientific testing, and form the basis of modern biology and genetic sciences.

Secondly, again waxing ignorant , malvisguy212 states that certain (unnamed) European nobles were trying to practice eugenics.

Again, by selective amnesia, he forgot that the said unamed nobles were not atheists, but devout Christians.

Mysteriously, atheism gets the blame.

It seems, like Satan, atheism is the new fall guy for everything that is wrong in Christendom.

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