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Lets All Answer This Simple Rational Question Honestly by maestrojay(m): 7:41am On Nov 18, 2015
with the events in europe recently, i had to ask these question, pls lets give honest opinions and reasons.. thanks







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Re: Lets All Answer This Simple Rational Question Honestly by aNairalander: 7:41am On Nov 18, 2015
notify me when this thread hit fp
Re: Lets All Answer This Simple Rational Question Honestly by Hurlstarling: 7:43am On Nov 18, 2015
End time Questions
Re: Lets All Answer This Simple Rational Question Honestly by Lanretoye(m): 7:46am On Nov 18, 2015
I will think about it.
Re: Lets All Answer This Simple Rational Question Honestly by aNairalander: 7:50am On Nov 18, 2015
I want to thank well-meaning non-Muslims who, in the
wake of these attacks, have emphasised that they have
been carried out by a small, twisted minority. A
terrorist's goal is to sow hatred and discord, and by not
giving in, you are defeating their plans.
But I want to say that as a Muslim, I wish that we
weren't so quick to emphasise that this has nothing to do with us. While I personally have never killed anyone and none of my friends and family have ever resorted to
violence, radicalism has everything to do with Islam. And
the failure to address that out of a well-intentioned
commitment to tolerance is making the problem worse.
ISIS is a Muslim organisation, and it is an Islamic
problem. Let me say it again to be perfectly clear. ISIS is
a Muslim organisation, and they are a cancer at the
heart of Islam. And the problem will not go away until
Muslims confront that.
ISIS attackers scream 'Allah hu'akbar' during their
attacks.
ISIS recruits cite Qur'anic verses as justification for the
rape and enslavement of women.
ISIS soldiers kill archaeologists, gay men and women,
and people who refuse to convert to Islam because they
are blasphemers.
There are no Christians in ISIS. There are no Buddhists,
Jews, Pagans, Taoists, Houngans, Catholics, Wiccans,
Hindus or even Scientologists in ISIS. ISIS is a Muslim
organisation and they kill in the name of Islam.
So don't say that ISIS aren't 'true Muslims' or that they
are 'not really Muslims'. Like any large organisation, ISIS
exists in a spectrum. You have the aimless, restless
teenager who never amounted to anything in his life
and traveled to Syria because he can't find a job and
doesn't know if the Qur'an is to be read from left to right
or right to left. But you also have pious professionals,
businessmen, and academics who read their Qur'an cover
to cover, pray every day, were seduced into radicalism,
and truly believe that the Islamic State's goal of conquest
is a noble one. The so-called 'Caliph' Abu Bakr Al-
Baghdadi has a doctorate in Islamic studies.
So if you feel that Muslims are being oppressed or killed
in Muslim countries, I expect you to also be just as
outraged by ISIS. Because they have killed more Muslims
in Iraq, Syria and Jordan than the entire US army. They
have done more damage to the name and reputation of
Islam than any Western nation. ISIS is Islam's biggest
enemy, not the US, not Israel or France or Germany or
the Russians.
We have to own the problem. We have to admit that this
is a religious problem, and we need to renew our
commitment to a secular country which treats all
religions equally. I have believed in the importance of
secularism all my life, and with every day that passes
that belief grows stronger. Religion is no way to govern a
nation. Not any religion, and not any nation.
ISIS is not America's problem, nor the British, nor the French. ISIS is not Syria or Iraq's problem. ISIS is a
problem for Muslims. And if you can't admit that, you're
not really a good Muslim either.

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Re: Lets All Answer This Simple Rational Question Honestly by utenwuson: 7:54am On Nov 18, 2015
am a muslim but sincerely speaking no islamic country will accommodate such numbering Christian except maybe Saudi or Dubai

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Re: Lets All Answer This Simple Rational Question Honestly by DaBullIT(m): 8:29am On Nov 18, 2015
So , it follows that Christian nations should not welcome islamic refugees
Re: Lets All Answer This Simple Rational Question Honestly by SirLewis(m): 8:30am On Nov 18, 2015
utenwuson:
am a muslim but sincerely speaking no islamic country will accommodate such numbering Christian except maybe Saudi or Dubai
Thank you for being honest. I really need something cleared up as well. Does the Koran really encourage the killing of "infidels" and those who leave the faith?
Re: Lets All Answer This Simple Rational Question Honestly by illiad: 8:40am On Nov 18, 2015
Even my dog knows they will never do that
Re: Lets All Answer This Simple Rational Question Honestly by utenwuson: 9:10am On Nov 18, 2015
SirLewis:
Thank you for being honest. I really need something cleared up as well. Does the Koran really encourage the killing of "infidels" and those who leave the faith?
if u read ur old testament u ll see were it was stated dt an eye for an eye! so many verses stated killing those of different fate! but it has all been abolished! like wise in d quran, prophet Muhammed eat n dine wt d infidels jst to prove to them that Allah is one and the almighty! wat is hapnin in world ryt now is as a result of the end tym approaching!!! my thought!
Re: Lets All Answer This Simple Rational Question Honestly by SirLewis(m): 9:24am On Nov 18, 2015
utenwuson:
if u read ur old testament u ll see were it was stated dt an eye for an eye! so many verses stated killing those of different fate! but it has all been abolished! like wise in d quran, prophet Muhammed eat n dine wt d infidels jst to prove to them that Allah is one and the almighty! wat is hapnin in world ryt now is as a result of the end tym approaching!!! my thought!
An eye for an eye or the code of hammurabi was solely meant to serve as a means of justice for those who had been wronged to take matters into their own hands and not against innocent persons who hadn't committed any wrong. Eventually though, God's Son, Jesus Christ from whom the teachings of Christianity flowed from, said in Matthew 5:39 not to resist (or fight) the one who is wicked but to turn the other cheek if he slaps you and in Luke 10:27 admonished that we should love our neighbor as ourselves, using the good samaritan as an illustration to show that we should treat those who are not of the same faith with kindness. . Please do tell me, does Islam honestly encourage the same? Or better still can you show me a verse in the Koran where Mohammed said to love those of a different faith and to live in peace amongst them?
Re: Lets All Answer This Simple Rational Question Honestly by speedyGonzales: 9:24am On Nov 18, 2015
no!
Re: Lets All Answer This Simple Rational Question Honestly by utenwuson: 9:39am On Nov 18, 2015
SirLewis:
An eye for an eye or the code of hammurabi was solely meant to serve as a means of justice for those who had been wronged to take matters into their own hands and not against innocent persons who hadn't committed any wrong. Eventually though, God's Son, Jesus Christ from whom the teachings of Christianity flowed from, said in Matthew 5:39 not to resist (or fight) the one who is wicked but to turn the other cheek if he slaps you and in Luke 10:27 admonished that we should love our neighbor as ourselves, using the good samaritan as an illustration to show that we should treat those who are not of the same faith with kindness. . Please do tell me, does Islam honestly encourage the same? Or better still can you show me a verse in the Koran where Mohammed said to love those of a different faith and to live in peace amongst them?
I don't knw d exact verse but Muhammed solemnly condemn killings! he dine n wine wt kafir" those wt diff believe so as to convince them of the one nes of Allah! dts y u see Imam and islamic scholars condemn Boko haram
Re: Lets All Answer This Simple Rational Question Honestly by cumprince01: 9:39am On Nov 18, 2015
Hurlstarling:
End time Questions
End Time Post
Re: Lets All Answer This Simple Rational Question Honestly by SirLewis(m): 9:46am On Nov 18, 2015
utenwuson:
I don't knw d exact verse but Muhammed solemnly condemn killings! he dine n wine wt kafir" those wt diff believe so as to convince them of the one nes of Allah! dts y u see Imam and islamic scholars condemn Boko haram
Thank you. I really appreciate your honest polite replies.
Re: Lets All Answer This Simple Rational Question Honestly by maestrojay(m): 10:02am On Nov 18, 2015
SirLewis:
Thank you. I really appreciate your honest polite replies.

Nice conversation bwteen u both.. very sane..

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