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A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by ShowYourCertificate: 7:35am On Dec 02, 2015
If you are sincere in your answer to the question below, you'll find the answers to the Kogi's Problem.

Let's assume that the Kogi Election was concluded that same day and the INEC Returning Officer declared Audu the winner. If INEC later discovered that Audu actually died before the declaration was made, what will be their final decision on the matter?

A. Will INEC call for fresh elections?
B. Will Faleke be given the Certificate of Return?
C. Will Yahaya Bello be given the Certificate of Return?
D. Will Wada be given the Certificate of Return?

I want sincere answers.
Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by drss(m): 7:40am On Dec 02, 2015
Clearly inec was following oders from above. In sane climes audu's deputy should have been sworn in but because we are in a duara gworo era, anything goes. Under buari dullaard inec has lost their independence.

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Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by domack99(m): 7:41am On Dec 02, 2015
You are asking a what-if question, the fact is the man died without inec declaring him ad winner because the election was inconclusive.

Stop asking a what-if question because that's not what happened

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Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by Realisticman: 7:45am On Dec 02, 2015
Falake would have been declared governor elect. But all of us would have suspected Falake to have killed Audu. The reason why such suspicion is reducing now is because, Falake has not really got it smooth all the way.

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Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by chinae(m): 7:48am On Dec 02, 2015
Your assumed situation wasn't possible because election wasn't successful in some PU.

OP u need to buckle up

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Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by ShowYourCertificate: 7:49am On Dec 02, 2015
domack99:
You are asking a what-if question, the fact is the man died without inec declaring him ad winner because the election was inconclusive.

Stop asking a what-if question because that's not what happened
As far as the law is concerned, the Kogi Ekection is still ongoing. And hopefully it would be concluded this Saturday. When it's concluded, this what-if question will be very useful in guiding the court's decision on the matter.
Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by ShowYourCertificate: 7:51am On Dec 02, 2015
chinae:
Your assumed situation wasn't possible because election wasn't successful in some PU.

OP u need to buckle up
Election is still ongoing and will conclude this Saturday.
Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by gohzieh(m): 8:04am On Dec 02, 2015
By sat, we'll get the answers
Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by ShowYourCertificate: 8:10am On Dec 02, 2015
Clerverly I saw you peeping. What happened, you can't answer a simple JAMB question?
Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by ShowYourCertificate: 8:22am On Dec 02, 2015
ShowYourCertificate:
If you are sincere in your answer to the question below, you'll find the answers to the Kogi's Problem.

Let's assume that the Kogi Election was concluded that same day and the INEC Returning Officer declared Audu the winner. If INEC later discovered that Audu actually died before the declaration was made, what will be their final decision on the matter?

A. Will INEC call for fresh elections?
B. Will Faleke be given the Certificate of Return?
C. Will Yahaya Bello be given the Certificate of Return?
D. Will Wada be given the Certificate of Return?

I want sincere answers.
Seun, Lalasticlala, Obinoscopy, Ishilove, Mukina2, Mynd44, Dominique, this thread needs wider coverage so that Nigerians can respond to this thought provoking question.
Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by PRYCE(m): 8:32am On Dec 02, 2015
Thought provoking indeed!
Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by Opinedecandid(m): 8:47am On Dec 02, 2015
@op, let me join you to ponder on uncertainties.

My thinking is that, INEC actually knew of Audu's death very early in the day. Infact, on that Saturday after he cast his vote.
But truth is, INEC never knew the elections will be inconclusive at the end of the day... Remember, Faleke is not just alone in this, a certain powerful politician is behind him.
So they stopped the family from telling of their Patriach's death early, thinking events will play out in Faleke's favour.

That is why I personally think that Faleke won't be the governor of that state, no matter how hard he tries.

Infact, if APC is not careful, they will lose that mandate to PDP. IF they don't thread will care and allow justice and fairness to play out.

THERE IS ALWAYS A SUPERNATURAL HAND IN THE AFFAIRS OF MEN.

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Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by ShowYourCertificate: 8:57am On Dec 02, 2015
Donphilopus I see you
Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by donphilopus: 9:04am On Dec 02, 2015
ShowYourCertificate:
Donphilopus I see you

Your question is 'What if?'. Just like FIFA wrote a letter to NFF to expect a bronze booth by December to give to the rightful owner of it, Chukwueze after awarding it to Nwakali. APC would write to INEC that their Candidate is dead and the Certificate of Return earlier presented to him be presented to his Deputy Governor-elect, Faleke. INEC has no choice, they would give it to Faleke. Whoever that feels cheated would head to Court. INEC cannot work with hearsay and even if they do, they can't order for fresh Election, it would be the duty of the Judiciary.

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Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by ShowYourCertificate: 9:08am On Dec 02, 2015
donphilopus:


Your question is 'What if?'. Just like FIFA wrote a letter to NFF to expect a bronze booth by December to give to the rightful owner of it, Chukwueze after awarding it to Nwakali. APC would write to INEC that their Candidate is dead and the Certificate of Return earlier presented to him be presented to his Deputy Governor-elect, Faleke. INEC has no choice, they would give it to Faleke. Whoever that feels cheated would head to Court. INEC cannot work with hearsay and even if they do, they can't order for fresh Election, it would be the duty of the Judiciary.
Ok, so you go with Option B.

Thanks for your response
Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by Levinelsonbob(m): 9:11am On Dec 02, 2015
domack99:
You are asking a what-if question, the fact is the man died without inec declaring him ad winner because the election was inconclusive.

Stop asking a what-if question because that's not what happened
And since the election was decleared inconclusive, meanwhile both the constitution and electoral acts did not give Inec power to cancel an already conducted election which was free and fair; what is suposed to be the next line of action?
Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by citizenY(m): 9:16am On Dec 02, 2015
drss:
Clearly inec was following oders from above. In sane climes audu's deputy should have been sworn in but because we are in a duara gworo era, anything goes. Under buari dullaard inec has lost their independence.
..


Really?

Faleke should have been sworn in, in an inconclusive election where a certificate of return has not been issued ?

You are the dullard.

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Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by UncleJudax(m): 9:16am On Dec 02, 2015
Realisticman:
Falake would have been declared governor elect. But all of us would have suspected Falake to have killed Audu. The reason why such suspicion is reducing now is because, Falake has not really got it smooth all the way.
So the law is what people would/might have thought and not the Constitution?

Nigerians and their yeye sentiment. Look where it has kept us. Mtcheew
Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by PassingShot(m): 9:18am On Dec 02, 2015
If Audu had been declared winner, certificate of return would have been given to Faleke without any doubt as he ran and won with him. If INEC later knew of Audu's death even before declaring him winner, it would not have changed anything.

If the margin with which Audu was leading is more than the 49k votes in those 91 polling units, INEC would still have gone ahead to announce him the winner even with knowledge of his death. Such knowledge wouldn't have stopped INEC from making a legally binding pronouncement.

And I hate the conspiracy theory that INEC knew abt Audu's death and it was the reason the election was declared inconclusive. No, it was not. With margin less than registered voters of 49k, no way inec could have declared a winner because the Electoral Act sadly recognized registered voters and not PVC collected. We saw it in Imo state when Okorocha had an insurmountable margin based on PVCs collected but less than registered voters. INEC couldn't declare him winner!

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Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by UncleJudax(m): 9:24am On Dec 02, 2015
ShowYourCertificate:
If you are sincere in your answer to the question below, you'll find the answers to the Kogi's Problem.

Let's assume that the Kogi Election was concluded that same day and the INEC Returning Officer declared Audu the winner. If INEC later discovered that Audu actually died before the declaration was made, what will be their final decision on the matter?

A. Will INEC call for fresh elections?
B. Will Faleke be given the Certificate of Return?
C. Will Yahaya Bello be given the Certificate of Return?
D. Will Wada be given the Certificate of Return?

I want sincere answers.
More like if PDP was still in power at Aso rOck, would APC not be contesting against the inconclusiness of the election and supplementary election. And off course campaigning for Falake to be sworn in?

APC [Buhari and Co] are only doing what they are doing cos they control what INEC does, and clearly do not want Falake as the next Governor of Kogi state.
Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by youngwarlocks: 9:36am On Dec 02, 2015
ok o
Re: A Thought Provoking Question On The Kogi Election by ShowYourCertificate: 9:39am On Dec 02, 2015
PassingShot:
If Audu had been declared winner, certificate of return would have been given to Faleke without any doubt as he ran and won with him. If INEC later knew of Audu's death even before declaring him winner would not have changed anything.

If the margin with which Audu was leading is more than the 49k votes in those 91 polling units, INEC would still have gone ahead to announce him the winner even with knowledge of his death. Such knowledge wouldn't have stopped INEC from making a legally binding pronouncement.

And I hate the conspiracy theory that INEC knew abt Audu's death was the reason the election was declared inconclusive. No, it was not. With margin less than registered voters of 49k, no way inec could have declared a winner because the Electoral Act sadly recognized registered voters and not PVC collected. We saw it in Imo state when Okorocha had an insurmountable margin based on PVCs collected but less than registered voters. INEC couldn't declare him winner!
So, in effect you go with Option B

Thanks for your response.

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