And which is more interpreted more voilently?

We all know the unholy book

hopelink1:
We all know the unholy book

Which is?

menesheh:


Which is?

u know it

hopelink1:
u know it

If am to presume i will say Koran

hopelink1:
We all know the unholy book

The one that inspired the spanish inquisition? Or the one that inspires jihad?

CoolUsername:
The one that inspired the spanish inquisition? Or the one that inspires jihad?

you should know better

CoolUsername:
The one that inspired the spanish inquisition? Or the one that inspires jihad?

Which book inspired the spanish inquisition? (neither of both in the op did)

Scholar8200:
Which book inspired the spanish inquisition? (neither of both in the op did)

Do you believe yourself when you spew blatant lies?

CoolUsername:
Do you believe yourself when you spew blatant lies?

Which lies? How many people did any of the Apostles/Disciples execute?

Rather I find them warning against heretics, not conducting inquisitions!

Scholar8200:
Which lies? How many people did any of the Apostles/Disciples execute?

Rather I find them warning against heretics, not conducting inquisitions!

Christianity had killed 10 times the number muslems are will yet kill during the crusade. Christianity is older to muslem and they've learnt alot from series of wars and crusades they've undertaken therefore abandoning most of the evil contents in the bible.

Delusiongirl20:



Christianity had killed 10 times the number muslems will yet kill during the crusade. Christianity is older to muslem and they've learnt alot from series of wars and crusades they undertook therefore abandoning most evil the laws in the bible.

How many Times have we explained this to ye atheists harden heart ? Dint Jesus command His followers to not only Love their neighbors but also we should love our enemy? Any christians acting contrary to this is violating one of the TWO greater commandment of God.

Op. Everything you said about religions , holy, Books. The same can be said of politics, infact politics has cause more death than religion, but politics cannot be eliminated from society; we can only try to find the right political formula.
Neither can we eliminate our religious need; we can only find the right religion.

Now listen to me you harden minded; Show me in the Bible where Jesus or His
apostles taught that He wants people to fight for Him with earthly weapons. Jesus even warn peter for drawing his sword to cut of the ear of a man who came to arrest Jesus, infact Jesus even say , if He want physical war, he would've send legion of angels to fight for Him and NOT human. Be careful not
to judge the Bible by the way people abuse it. Just because someone says they're a Christian does not mean they
are one! You never judge a philosophy by its abuse.

Scholar8200:
Which lies? How many people did any of the Apostles/Disciples execute?

Rather I find them warning against heretics, not conducting inquisitions!

infact, it was the apostles who were killed for their faith. I copy this from truthman thread.

HOW THE APOSTLES DIED:
1. Matthew
Suffered martyrdom in Ethiopia,
Killed by a sword wound.
2. Mark
Died in Alexandria, Egypt , after
being dragged by Horses through
the streets until he was dead.
3. Luke
Was hanged in Greece as a result
of his tremendous Preaching to
the lost.
4. John
Faced martyrdom when he was
boiled in huge Basin of boiling oil
during a wave of persecution In
Rome. However, he was
miraculously delivered From
death.
John was then sentenced to the
mines on the prison Island of
Patmos. He wrote his prophetic
Book of Revelation on Patmos .
The apostle John was later freed
and returned to serve As Bishop
of Edessa in modern Turkey . He
died as an old man, the only
apostle to die peacefully
5. Peter
He was crucified upside down on
an x-shaped cross.
According to church tradition it
was because he told his
tormentors that he felt unworthy
to die In the same way that Jesus
Christ had died.
6. James
The leader of the church in
Jerusalem , was thrown over a
hundred feet down from the
southeast pinnacle of the Temple
when he refused to deny his faith
in Christ. When they discovered
that he survived the fall, his
enemies beat James to death with
a fuller's club.
* This was the same pinnacle
where Satan had taken Jesus
during the Temptation.
7. James the Son of Zebedee,
was a fisherman by trade when
Jesus Called him to a lifetime of
ministry. As a strong leader of the
church, James was ultimately
beheaded at Jerusalem. The
Roman officer who guarded James
watched amazed as James
defended his faith at his trial.
Later, the officer Walked beside
James to the place of execution.
Overcome by conviction, he
declared his new faith to the judge
and Knelt beside James to accept
beheading as a Christian.
8. Bartholomew
Also known as Nathaniel Was a
missionary to Asia. He witnessed
for our Lord in present day
Turkey. Bartholomew was
martyred for his preaching in
Armenia where he was flayed to
death by a whip.
9. Andrew
Was crucified on an x-shaped
cross in Patras, Greece. After
being whipped severely by seven
soldiers they tied his body to the
cross with cords to prolong his
agony. His followers reported
that, when he was led toward the
cross, Andrew saluted it in these
words: 'I have long desired and
expected this happy hour. The
cross has been consecrated by the
body of Christ hanging on it.' He
continued to preach to his
tormentors For two days until he
expired.
10. Thomas
Was stabbed with a spear in India
during one of his missionary trips
to establish the church in the Sub-
continent.
11. Jude
Was killed with arrows when he
refused to deny his faith in Christ.
Phillip
(crucified)—
Through his miraculous healing
and preaching, Philip converted
the wife of the Preconsul of the
city” of Hierapolis. Of course, this
event angered the Preconsul and
ordered that both Philip and
Bartholomew be tortured and
crucified upside down. While on
the cross, Philip continued to
preach and he was able to
convince the crowd and the
Preconsul to release
Bartholomew, while insisting that
he (Philip) remained crucified.
Bartholomew was released but
Philip died on the cross and was
later buried somewhere within the
city.
12. Matthias
The apostle chosen to replace the
traitor Judas Iscariot, was stoned
and then beheaded.
13. Paul
Was tortured and then beheaded
by the evil Emperor Nero at Rome
in A.D. 67. Paul endured a lengthy
imprisonment, which allowed him
to write his many
epistles to the churches he had
formed throughout the Roman
Empire. These letters, which
taught many of the foundational
Doctrines of Christianity, form a
large portion of the New
Testament.
Perhaps this is a reminder to us
that our sufferings here are
indeed minor compared to the
intense persecution and cold
cruelty faced by the apostles and
disciples during their times For
the sake of the Faith. And ye shall
be hated of all men for my name's
sake: But he that endureth to the
end shall be saved.
Pass on to encourage other
Christians. — with Martyrdom of
the Apostles

Delusiongirl20:



Christianity had killed 10 times the number muslems will yet kill during the crusade. Christianity is older to muslem and they've learnt alot from series of wars and crusades they undertook therefore abandoning most evil the laws in the bible.

Kindly show me from one of the books -the Bible- in your op, verses in the NT that 'inspired' the crusades.
Also show from the Bible how the apostles launched their crusades.




I specified NT because the Bible is not a set of random, unconnected books but it captures various dispensations as they unfold and the last therein which continues till now is the NT.

malvisguy212:
How many Times have we explained this to ye atheists harden heart ? Dint Jesus command His followers to not only Love their neighbors but also we should love our enemy? Any christians acting contrary to this is violating one of the TWO greater commandment of God.

Op. Everything you said about religions , holy, Books. The same can be said of politics, infact politics has cause more death than religion, but politics cannot be eliminated from society; we can only try to find the right political formula.
Neither can we eliminate our religious need; we can only find the right religion.

Now listen to me you harden minded; Show me in the Bible where Jesus or His
apostles taught that He wants people to fight for Him with earthly weapons. Jesus even warn peter for drawing his sword to cut of the ear of a man who came to arrest Jesus, infact Jesus even say , if He want physical war, he would've send legion of angels to fight for Him and NOT human. Be careful not
to judge the Bible by the way people abuse it. Just because someone says they're a Christian does not mean they
are one! You never judge a philosophy by its abuse.

Picking and choosing bible verses you wanted to interprete to justify Christianity as a good religion rather than presenting both the immoral verses that encourages lethal behaviors.

Scholar8200:
Kindly show me from one of the books -the Bible- in your op, verses in the NT that 'inspired' the crusades.
Also show from the Bible how the apostles launched their crusades.




I specified NT because the Bible is not a set of random, unconnected books but it captures various dispensations as they unfold and the last therein which continues till now is the NT.

Those crusaders took their inspirations from the Bible as muslems takes same from their holy book. There is no verse in the Quran that directly encourages suicide bombing and mass killing of infidels using bombs.

The crusaders linked and interpreted their actions (crusade) from the bible verses as you usually easily do interprete some verses literally or non-literally to suit a motive.

They are both rather equally violent, barbaric, and have no place anywhere in modern society except perhaps as historical artifacts.

The Qur'an of course;


EX 17:13 With the Lord's approval, Joshua mows
down Amalek and his people.
EX 21:20-21 With the Lord's approval, a slave
may be beaten to death with no punishment for
the perpetrator as long as the slave doesn't die
too quickly.
EX 32:27 "Put every man his sword by his side,
and go in and out from gate to gate throughout
the camp, and slay every man his brother, and
every man his companion, and every man his
neighbor.
EX 32:27-29 With the Lord's approval, the
Israelites slay 3000 men.
LE 26:7-8 The Lord promises the Israelites that, if
they are obedient, their enemies will "fall before
your sword."
LE 26:22 "I will also send wild beasts among you,
which shall rob you of your children."
LE 26:29 , DT 28:53 , JE 19:9 , EZ 5:8-10 As a
punishment, the Lord will cause people to eat the
flesh of their own sons and daughters and fathers
and friends.
LE 27:29 Human sacrifice is condoned. (Note: An
example is given in JG 11:30-39 )
NU 11:33 The Lord smites the people with a great
plague.
NU 12:1-10 God makes Miriam a leper for seven
days because she and Aaron had spoken against
Moses.
NU 15:32-36 A Sabbath breaker (who had
gathered sticks for a fire) is stoned to death at
the Lord's command.
NU 16:27-33 The Lord causes the earth to open
and swallow up the men and their households
(including wives and children) because the men
had been rebellious.
NU 16:35 A fire from the Lord consumes 250
men.
NU 16:49 A plague from the Lord kills 14,700
people.
NU 21:3 The Israelites utterly destroy the
Canaanites.
NU 21:6 Fiery serpents, sent by the Lord, kill
many Israelites.
NU 21:35 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites
slay Og "... and his sons and all his people, until
there was not one survivor left ...."
NU 25:4 (KJV) "And the Lord said unto Moses,
take all the heads of the people, and hang them
up before the Lord against the sun ...."
NU 25:8 "He went after the man of Israel into the
tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of
Israel, and the woman through her belly."
NU 25:9 24,000 people die in a plague from the
Lord.
NU 31:9 The Israelites capture Midianite women
and children.
NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's
command, orders the Israelites to kill all the
Midianite male children and "... every woman who
has known man ...." (Note: How would it be
determined which women had known men? One
can only speculate.)
NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the
Israelites as booty. Thirty-two are set aside (to
be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord.
DT 2:33-34 The Israelites utterly destroy the men,
women, and children of Sihon.
DT 3:6 The Israelites utterly destroy the men,
women, and children of Og.
DT 7:2 The Lord commands the Israelites to
"utterly destroy" and show "no mercy" to those
whom he gives them for defeat.
DT 20:13-14 "When the Lord delivers it into your
hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for
the women, the children, the livestock and
everything else in the city, you may take these as
plunder for yourselves."
DT 20:16 "In the cities of the nations the Lord is
giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive
anything that breathes."
DT 21:10-13 With the Lord's approval, the
Israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women"
from the enemy camp to be their captive wives.
If, after sexual relations, the husband has "no
delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go.
DT 28:53 "You will eat the fruit of the womb, the
flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your
God has given you."
JS 1:1-9 , 18 Joshua receives the Lord's blessing
for all the bloody endeavors to follow.
JS 6:21-27 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
destroys the city of Jericho--men, women, and
children--with the edge of the sword.
JS 7:19-26 Achan, his children and his cattle are
stoned to death because Achan had taken a
taboo thing.
JS 8:22-25 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly smites the people of Ai, killing 12,000 men
and women, so that there were none who
escaped.
JS 10:10-27 With the help of the Lord, Joshua
utterly destroys the Gibeonites.
JS 10:28 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly
destroys the people of Makkedah.
JS 10:30 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly
destroys the Libnahites.
JS 10:32-33 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the people of Lachish.
JS 10:34-35 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the Eglonites.
JS 10:36-37 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the Hebronites.
JS 10:38-39 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the Debirites.
JS 10:40 (A summary statement.) "So Joshua
defeated the whole land ...; he left none
remaining, but destroyed all that breathed, as the
Lord God of Israel commanded."
JS 11:6 The Lord orders horses to be hamstrung.
(Exceedingly cruel.)
JS 11:8-15 "And the lord gave them into the hand
of Israel, ...utterly destroying them; there was
none left that breathed ...."
JS 11:20 "For it was the Lord's doing to harden
their hearts that they should come against Israel
in battle, in order that they should be utterly
destroyed, and should receive no mercy but be
exterminated, as the Lord commanded Moses."
JS 11:21-23 Joshua utterly destroys the Anakim.
JG 1:4 With the Lord's support, Judah defeats
10,000 Canaanites at Bezek.
JG 1:6 With the Lord's approval, Judah pursues
Adoni-bezek, catches him, and cuts off his
thumbs and big toes.
JG 1:8 With the Lord's approval, Judah smites
Jerusalem.
JG 1:17 With the Lord's approval, Judah and
Simeon utterly destroy the Canaanites who
inhabited Zephath.
JG 3:29 The Israelites kill about 10,000 Moabites.
JG 3:31 (A restatement.) Shamgar killed 600
Philistines with an oxgoad.
JG 4:21 Jael takes a tent stake and hammers it
through the head of Sisera, fastening it to the
ground.
JG 7:19-25 The Gideons defeat the Midianites,
slay their princes, cut off their heads, and bring
the heads back to Gideon.
JG 8:15-21 The Gideons slaughter the men of
Penuel.
JG 9:5 Abimalech murders his brothers.
JG 9:45 Abimalech and his men kill all the people
in the city.
JG 9:53-54 "A woman dropped a stone on his
head and cracked his skull. Hurriedly he called to
his armor-bearer, 'Draw your sword and kill me,
so that they can't say a woman killed me.' So his
servant ran him through, and he died."
JG 11:29-39 Jepthah sacrifices his beloved
daughter, his only child, according to a vow he
has made with the Lord.
JG 14:19 The Spirit of the Lord comes upon a
man and causes him to slay thirty men.
JG 15:15 Samson slays 1000 men with the
jawbone of an ass.
JG 16:21 The Philistines gouge out Samson's
eyes.
JG 16:27-30 Samson, with the help of the Lord,
pulls down the pillars of the Philistine house and
causes his own death and that of 3000 other men
and women.
JG 18:27 The Danites slay the quiet and
unsuspecting people of Laish.
JG 19:22-29 A group of sexual depraved men
beat on the door of an old man's house
demanding that he turn over to them a male
house guest. Instead, the old man offers his
virgin daughter and his guest's concubine (or
wife): "Behold, here are my virgin daughter and
his concubine; let me bring them out now. Ravish
them and do with them what seems good to you;
but against this man do not do so vile a thing."
The man's concubine is ravished and dies. The
man then cuts her body into twelve pieces and
sends one piece to each of the twelve tribes of
Israel.
JG 20:43-48 The Israelites smite 25,000+ "men of
valor" from amongst the Benjamites, "men and
beasts and all that they found," and set their
towns on fire.
JG 21:10-12 "... Go and smite the inhabitants of
Jabesh-gilead with the edge of the sword and;
also the women and little ones.... every male and
every woman that has lain with a male you shall
utterly destroy." They do so and find four hundred
young virgins whom they bring back for their own
use.
1SA 4:10 The Philistines slay 30,000 Israelite foot
soldiers.
1SA 5:6-9 The Lord afflicts the Philistines with
tumors in their "secret parts," presumably for
having stolen the Ark.
1SA 6:19 God kills seventy men (or so) for
looking into the Ark (at him?). (Note: The early
Israelites apparently thought the Ark to be God's
abode.)
1SA 7:7-11 Samuel and his men smite the
Philistines.
1SA 11:11 With the Lord's blessing, Saul and his
men cut down the Ammonites.
1SA 14:31 Jonathan and his men strike down the
Philistines.
1SA 14:48 Saul smites the Amalekites.
1SA 15:3 , 7-8 "This is what the Lord says: Now
go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that
they have; do not spare them, but kill both man
and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep,
camel and ass ....' And Saul ... utterly destroyed
all the people with the edge of the sword."
1SA 15:33 "Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before
the Lord ...."
1SA 18:7 The women sing as they make merry:
"Saul has slain his thousands and David his ten
thousands."
1SA 27:8-11 "David left neither man nor woman
alive ....". (Note: This implies that children and
infants were included in the slaughter.)
1SA 30:17 David smites the Amalekites.
2SA 2:23 Abner kills Asahel.
2SA 3:30 Joab and Abishai kill Abner.
2SA 4:7-8 Rechan and Baanah kill Ish-bosheth,
behead him, and take his head to David.
2SA 4:12 David has Rechan and Baanah killed,
their hands and feet cut off, and their bodies
hanged by the pool at Hebron.
2SA 5:25 "And David did as the Lord commanded
him, and smote the Philistines ...."
2SA 6:2-23 Because she rebuked him for having
exposed himself, Michal (David's wife) was barren
throughout her life.
2SA 8:1-18 (A listing of some of David's
murderous conquests.)
2SA 8:4 David hamstrung all but a few of the
horses.
2SA 8:5 David slew 22,000 Syrians.
2SA 8:6 , 14 "The Lord gave victory to David
wherever he went."
2SA 8:13 David slew 18,000 Edomites in the
valley of salt and made the rest slaves.
2SA 10:18 David slew 47,000+ Syrians.
2SA 11:14-27 David has Uriah killed so that he
can marry Uriah's wife, Bathsheba.
2SA 12:1 , 19 The Lord strikes David's child dead
for the sin that David has committed.
2SA 13:1-15 Amnon loves his sister Tamar, rapes
her, then hates her.
2SA 13:28-29 Absalom has Amnon murdered.
2SA 18:6 -7 20,000 men are slaughtered at the
battle in the forest of Ephraim.
2SA 18:15 Joab's men murder Absalom.
2SA 20:10-12 Joab's men murder Amasa and
leave him "... wallowing in his own blood in the
highway. And anyone who came by, seeing him,
stopped."
2SA 24:15 The Lord sends a pestilence on Israel
that kills 70,000 men.
1KI 2:24-25 Solomon has Adonijah murdered.
1KI 2:29-34 Solomon has Joab murdered.
1KI 2:46 Solomon has Shime-i murdered.
1KI 13:15-24 A man is killed by a lion for eating
bread and drinking water in a place where the
Lord had previously told him not to. This is in
spite of the fact that the man had subsequently
been lied to by a prophet who told the man that
an angel of the Lord said that it would be alright
to eat and drink there.
1KI 20:29-30 The Israelites smite 100,000 Syrian
soldiers in one day. A wall falls on 27,000
remaining Syrians.
2KI 1:10-12 Fire from heaven comes down and
consumes fifty men.
2KI 2:23-24 Forty-two children are mauled and
killed, presumably according to the will of God,
for having jeered at a man of God.
2KI 5:27 Elisha curses Gehazi and his
descendants forever with leprosy.
2KI 6:18-19 The Lord answers Elisha's prayer and
strikes the Syrians with blindness. Elisha tricks
the blind Syrians and leads them to Samaria.
2KI 6:29 "So we cooked my son and ate him. The
next day I said to her, 'Give up your son so we
may eat him,' but she had hidden him."
2KI 9:24 Jehu tricks and murders Joram.
2KI 9:27 Jehu has Ahaziah killed.
2KI 9:30-37 Jehu has Jezebel killed. Her body is
trampled by horses. Dogs eat her flesh so that
only her skull, feet, and the palms of her hands
remain.
2KI 10:7 Jehu has Ahab's seventy sons beheaded,
then sends the heads to their father.
2KI 10:14 Jehu has forty-two of Ahab's kin killed.
2KI 10:17 "And when he came to Samaria, he
slew all that remained to Ahab in Samaria, till he
had wiped them out, according to the word of the
Lord ...."
2KI 10:19-27 Jehu uses trickery to massacre the
Baal worshippers.
2KI 11:1 Athaliah destroys all the royal family.
2KI 14:5 , 7 Amaziah kills his servants and then
10,000 Edomites.
2KI 15:3-5 Even though he did what was right in
the eyes of the Lord, the Lord smites Azariah with
leprosy for not having removed the "high places."
2KI 15:16 Menahem ripped open all the women
who were pregnant.
2KI 19:35 An angel of the Lord kills 185,000 men.
1CH 20:3 (KJV) "And he brought out the people
that were in it, and cut them with saws, and with
harrows of iron, and with axes."
2CH 13:17 500,000 Israelites are slaughtered.
2CH 21:4 Jehoram slays all his brothers.
PS 137:9 Happy will be the man who dashes your
little ones against the stones.
PS 144:1 God is praised as the one who trains
hands for war and fingers for battle.
IS 13:15 "Everyone who is captured will be thrust
through; all who are caught will fall by the
sword. Their infants will be dashed to pieces
before their eyes; their ... wives will be ravished."
IS 13:18 "Their bows also shall dash the young
men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the
fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare
children."
IS 14:21-22 "Prepare slaughter for his children for
the iniquity of their fathers."
IS 49:26 The Lord will cause the oppressors of
the Israelite's to eat their own flesh and to
become drunk on their own blood as with wine.
JE 16:4 "They shall die grievous deaths; they
shall not be lamented; neither shall they be
buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face
of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the
sword, and by famine; and their carcasses shall
be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the
beasts of the earth."
LA 4:9-10 "Those slain by the sword are better off
than those who die of famine; racked with
hunger, they waste away for lack of food. ...
pitiful women have cooked their own children,
who became their food ..."
EZ 6:12-13 The Lord says: "... they will fall by the
sword, famine and plague. He that is far away
will die of the plague, and he that is near will fall
by the sword, and he that survives and is spared
will die of famine. So will I spend my wrath upon
them. And they will know I am the Lord, when the
people lie slain among their idols around their
altars, on every high hill and on all the
mountaintops, under every spreading tree and
every leafy oak ...."
EZ 9:4-6 The Lord commands: "... slay old men
outright, young men and maidens, little children
and women ...."
EZ 20:26 In order that he might horrify them, the
Lord allowed the Israelites to defile themselves
through, amongst other things, the sacrifice of
their first-born children.
EZ 21:3-4 The Lord says that he will cut off both
the righteous and the wicked that his sword shall
go against all flesh.
EZ 23:25 , 47 God is going to slay the sons and
daughters of those who were whores.
EZ 23:34 "You shall ... pluck out your hair, and
tear your breasts."
HO 13:16 "They shall fall by the sword: their
infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their
women with child shall be ripped up."
MI 3:2-3 "... who pluck off their skin ..., and their
flesh from off their bones; Who also eat the flesh
of my people, and flay their skin from off them;
and they break their bones, and chop them in
pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the
caldron."
MT 3:12 , 8:12 , 10:21 , 13:30 , 42, 22:13 , 24:51 ,
25:30 , LK 13:28 , JN 5:24 Some will spend eternity
burning in Hell. There will be weeping, wailing and
gnashing of teeth.
MT 10:21 "... the brother shall deliver up his
brother to death, and the father his child, ...
children shall rise up against their parents, and
cause them to be put to death."
MT 10:35-36 "For I have come to turn a man
against his father, a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law a
man's enemies will be the members of his own
family."
MT 11:21-24 Jesus curses [the inhabitants of]
three cities who were not sufficiently impressed
with his great works.
AC 13:11 Paul purposefully blinds a m

Delusiongirl20:


Picking and choosing bible verses you wanted to interprete to justify Christianity as a good religion rather than presenting both the immoral verses that encourages lethal behaviors.

nonsense!! did I quote any bible verse ? I say quote the verses were Jesus encourage violence.

Crusadistic you did not have better argument to present only to copy and paste the same thing in all the thread. I say this to your muslims brother:

yes, the old testament is part of the bible but it doesent mean ALL the law in it apply to CHRISTIANS,the New Covenant SUPERSEDE and REPLACE the Old Covenant.Christians are only advice to learn from the old testament:

Romans 15:4
“For whatever things were WRITING
BEFORE were written for our LEARNING
that we through the patience and
comfort of the Scriptures might have
HOPE”

God has already given us A New
covenant and command us to follow .
Here what God say in Jeremiah:

Jeremiah 31:31-34
31“The days are coming,” declares the
Lord, “WHEN I WILL MAKE A NEW
COVENANT WITH THE PEOPLE OF ISREAL
and with the people of Judah. 32 It will
NOT BE LIKE THE COVENANT I MADE
WITH THEIR ANCESTORS when I took
them by the hand to lead them out of
Egypt, because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to[ a] them,[b]”
declares the Lord. 33“This is the
covenant I will make with the people of
Israel after that time,”declares the Lord.
“I will put my law in their minds and
write it on their hearts. I will be their
God, and they will be my people.34No
longer will they teach their neighbor,or
say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,”
declares the Lord.“FOR I WILL FORGIVE
THEIR WICKEDNESS AND WILL
REMEMBER THEIR SINS NO MORE .”

In the old testament their are laws that if you break, God will deal with you
accordingly, God love required justice,
so God deal with them accordingly, but in the book of Jeremiah God say “FOR I
WILL FORGIVE THEIR WICKEDNESS AND
WILL REMEMBER THEIR SINS NO MORE
.”indicating God will have mercy and
"FORGIVE THEIR WICKEDNESS" no more
only if they ask for forgiveness.

This new covenant was fullfiled in the
new testament. The ten commandments
no longer apply as law because in the
doctrine of Christ they are completely
superseded. In the Sermon on the Mount Jesus demands much more of us than the ten commandments. He not only forbids murder and adultery, but also the CAUSE, hate and lust. We are to love God with ALL OUR MIND,if you love God you will keep His commandments, so the key word is LOVE. No wonder Jesus give the TWO great commandments involving love God and your fellow human. So, love for God
and fellowman, not just because there is a command: “You shall not kill”.Hope you understand now?.

How do you explained this ? Allah
SANCTION PROSTITUTION IN THE
QURAN:
There is a type of marriage in Islam that
is known as “Nikah Mut’a (Mut’ah)” or
TEMPORARY MARRIAGE. Fixed-Term
Marriage, Temporary Marriage or
PLEASURE MARRIAGE are different
names for the Arabic term, Nikah Mut’a.
This form of marriage is based on a
CONTRACT between a man and woman
with a fixed date of expiry. The man and woman will become strangers to each other after the expiration date. Its format is that the woman says the following to the man
“I married you to myself on such-and-
such a dower and for the known period
of time” – where this period is stated
exactly. The man’s answer will be: “I
accept.” The dower can be in the form of money or something else.
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62,
Number 13o:
Narrated ‘Abdullah (b. Mas’ud): We
used to participate in the holy battles
led by Allah’s Apostle and we had
nothing (NO WIVES) WITH US. So we said,“Shall we get ourselves castrated?” He forbade us that and THEN ALLOWED US TO MARRY WITH A TEMPORARY
CONTRACT (2) and recited to us: ‘O you
who believe! Make not unlawful the
good things which Allah has made
lawful for you, but commit no
transgression .’ (Surah 5:87)

Surah 5:87: “O ye who believe!
Forbid not the good things which
Allah hath made lawful for you , and
transgress not, Lo! Allah loveth not
transgressors.” (Pickthall)

Is this not prostitution? When
muhammed jihadist was in a war as
usual, the urged for sex arrived, they are allowed to marry base on contract just to satisfied their pleasure. Satanic religion.

Crusadistic do justice to this verses as I did :
Surah 2:191: And kill them wherever you find them. (Shakir)
Surah 2: 193: And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah. (Shakir)
Surah 3:151: We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve , because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust. (Shakir)
Surah 7:4: How many a township have We destroyed! As a raid by night, or while they slept at noon, Our terror came unto them . (Pickthall)
Surah 8:12: When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them . (Shakir)
Surah 8:60: Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies , of Allah and your enemies. (Yusuf Ali)
Surah 8:65: O Prophet! Rouse the Believers to the fight . If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are a people without understanding. (Yusuf Ali)
Surah 9:5: So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them , and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. (Shakir)
Surah 9:14: Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace , and assist you against them and heal the hearts of a believing people.” (Shakir)
Surah 9:73: O Prophet! Strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell, – an evil refuge indeed. (Yusuf Ali)
Surah 9:111: Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. (Pickthall)
Surah 9:123: O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness . (Shakir)

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Richirich713:


Maybe u forgetting that ISIS only has muslim members.

maybe you're blind

Delusiongirl20:



Those crusaders took their inspirations from the Bible as muslems takes same from their holy book. There is no verse in the Quran that directly encourages suicide bombing and mass killing of infidels using bombs.

This is like saying no holy book encourages the use of television for evangelism!

The crusaders linked and interpreted their actions (crusade) from the bible verses as you usually easily do interprete some verses literally or non-literally to suit a situation.

Anybody can misinterprete ANY literary work, hence shall we keep to direct commands in such holy books?