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Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by unphilaz(m): 8:52am On Dec 11, 2015
This thread is opened up after a thread i created on the existence of the universe from NOTHING. And during the course of the discussion i came to a singular conclusion that NOT all ATHIEST are ATHIEST in the sense of the word but rather some are athiest towards the "GOD CONSCIOUSNESS" but are comfortable with just an intelligent MIND while on the other hand, some are averred to anything CONSCIOUS out there.

So the purpose is to bring this two broad ideas together to see how they reason together from their worldview... please this thread is not for the GOD Theist so please lets just watch them present their reason to convince themselves or otherwise.

On the Intelligent Consciousness, we have 1fesnes (or anyone in this camp) and the inanimate existence will be ... who can i think of... i hope am not wrong... kag (or anyone in this camp).

So to get the ball rolling, Atheist, which divide do you belong and kindly give your reasons....

this is 1feness stand
The power of thought is believed to have created everything we see. It is said that we are pure consciousness experiencing life on this planet in an avatar known as our bodies.
https://www.nairaland.com/2786110/atheist-how-want-heb-11#40847084
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by Oche211(m): 8:55am On Dec 11, 2015
Ok
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by unphilaz(m): 1:45pm On Dec 12, 2015
hmm... atheists una don vanish ne?

una no wan expose una self ne?

cc: evilbrain, kag, 1fessness,pesty100,cold,ichommy,johnydon22
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by Gayjesus: 3:36pm On Dec 12, 2015
I cannot say much,I was learning from him(1feness) until his account got deleted by christian mods(so he claimed on whatsapp).
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by unphilaz(m): 11:41am On Dec 13, 2015
hmm, why the cold...is brain still evil... why has the don not been johnny... is this thread a nag to kag... pesty make this thread more than 100 ... and
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by ifenes(m): 10:29am On Dec 16, 2015
unphilaz:
This thread is opened up after a thread i created on the existence of the universe from NOTHING. And during the course of the discussion i came to a singular conclusion that NOT all ATHIEST are ATHIEST in the sense of the word but rather some are athiest towards the "GOD CONSCIOUSNESS" but are comfortable with just an intelligent MIND while on the other hand, some are averred to anything CONSCIOUS out there.

So the purpose is to bring this two broad ideas together to see how they reason together from their worldview... please this thread is not for the GOD Theist so please lets just watch them present their reason to convince themselves or otherwise.

On the Intelligent Consciousness, we have 1fesnes (or anyone in this camp) and the inanimate existence will be ... who can i think of... i hope am not wrong... kag (or anyone in this camp).

So to get the ball rolling, Atheist, which divide do you belong and kindly give your reasons....

this is 1feness stand

https://www.nairaland.com/2786110/atheist-how-want-heb-11#40847084


This will be a waste of time.
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:55pm On Dec 16, 2015
ifenes:


This will be a waste of time.

No bro , but I'm monitoring closely grin

Have you ever convinced anyone before ?
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by ifenes(m): 5:07pm On Dec 16, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


No bro , but I'm monitoring closely grin

Have you ever convinced anyone before ?

Yes,many girls to bed.
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:11pm On Dec 16, 2015
ifenes:

Yes,many girls to bed.


grin

How do you do it ? You say " Aliens are the real gods" . And they say "Oh yes please , show me" . And you take to bed
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by ifenes(m): 5:15pm On Dec 16, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


grin

How do you do it ? You say " Aliens are the real gods" . And they say "Oh yes please , show me" . And you take to bed

I never said aliens are the real gods,I said they are the gods of every religion on this planet. I don't worship aliens ok?

YAHWEH is one of the many. If you wanna know more make your research.
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by HCpaul(m): 5:28pm On Dec 16, 2015
ifenes:


I never said aliens are the real gods,I said they are the gods of every religion on this planet. I don't worship aliens ok?

YAHWEH is one of the many. If you wanna know more make your research.


For you to be unable to provide a source for your existence formation only proved that you are a creature.

If a creature exist, then logically, their is a creator.


Your greatest fear of the existence theory and life concepts is your inadequate and imperfections.


I asked 3 sound christians last month to explain to me the atheistic philosophy, but they said to me;
WHAT IS THE MEANING OF ATHEISM?

WHO ARE ATHEIST?

BUT NOT IN NIGERIA SHA?


I felt so humiliated that the atheistic doctrine and religion is not gaining popularity and expansion, not even in Nigeria.


You and your co-atheists have a lot to do.

You really have a lot to do.
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by ifenes(m): 5:37pm On Dec 16, 2015
HCpaul:


For you to be unable to provide a source for your existence formation only proved that you are a creature.

If a creature exist, then logically, their is a creator.


Your greatest fear of the existence theory and life concepts is your inadequate and imperfections.


I asked 3 sound christians last month to explain to me the atheistic philosophy, but they said to me;
WHAT IS THE MEANING OF ATHEISM?

WHO ARE ATHEIST?

BUT NOT IN NIGERIA SHA?


I felt so humiliated that the atheistic doctrine and religion is not gaining popularity and expansion, not even in Nigeria.


You and your co-atheists have a lot to do.

You really have a lot to do.


what a silly question! I should provide my source? grin grin grin

Like I said this thread will be a waste of time as it seem I talk to primitive humans. Humans who believe in gods,makes me feel like I traveled back in time.

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Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by HCpaul(m): 5:58pm On Dec 16, 2015
ifenes:



what a silly question! I should provide my source? grin grin grin

Like I said this thread will be a waste of time as it seem I talk to primitive humans. Humans who believe in gods,makes me feel like I traveled back in time.

Advance your knowledge bro....

Did you exist?

I have something that i want to prove with your response.
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:01pm On Dec 16, 2015
ifenes:


I never said aliens are the real gods,I said they are the gods of every religion on this planet. I don't worship aliens ok?

YAHWEH is one of the many. If you wanna know more make your research.


Ok ... oya give me a straight forward answer

Do you know the origin of the annunakis ?
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:07pm On Dec 16, 2015
ifenes:



what a silly question! I should provide my source? grin grin grin

Like I said this thread will be a waste of time as it seem I talk to primitive humans. Humans who believe in gods,makes me feel like I traveled back in time.

But the annunakis are products of a god concept . The annuankis are actually primitive because they believe they are descendants of gods
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by ifenes(m): 6:15pm On Dec 16, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


But the annunakis are products of a god concept . The annuankis are actually primitive because they believe they are descendants of gods

Annnaki means those who came to planet earth to mine gold from their star system. There are billions of galaxies,billions of stars that inhabits life. So the anunakis are just one of billions from other star systems. There are stories around the world of visitations by different kinds of beings,not just anunaki. I will stop here as I would not want to implode your mind.
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by ifenes(m): 6:16pm On Dec 16, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


Ok ... oya give me a straight forward answer

Do you know the origin of the annunakis ?

You are not ready to know.
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by ifenes(m): 6:17pm On Dec 16, 2015
HCpaul:


Advance your knowledge bro....

Did you exist?

I have something that i want to prove with your response.

I existence is unlimited. I am you and you are me. One particle vibrating in infinity. Have I confused you again? grin grin
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by ifenes(m): 6:22pm On Dec 16, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


But the annunakis are products of a god concept . The annuankis are actually primitive because they believe they are descendants of gods

Everyone is god experiencing itself in different form. No one is a god over the other.

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Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:32pm On Dec 16, 2015
ifenes:


Everyone is god experiencing itself in different form. No one is a god over the other.

You didnt refute the fact I made . Please refute it . Aint annunakis descendants of gods ... yes or no ?
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by ifenes(m): 6:38pm On Dec 16, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


You didnt refute the fact I made . Please refute it . Aint annunakis descendants of gods ... yes or no ?

Must you use the world gods? I cannot tell their origin,but I can guess they were hybrids of other species. Often time some species realize they are dying out and they look for other civilization to breed with. Survival have various forms. Intelligent beings often make use of artificial means.

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Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:59pm On Dec 16, 2015
ifenes:


Must you use the world gods? I cannot tell their origin,but I can guess they were hybrids of other species. Often time some species realize they are dying out and they look for other civilization to breed with. Survival have various forms. Intelligent beings often make use of artificial means.

All I see is Infinite regression and an inchoate ideology . Isn't it rational to believe in an eternal being than whatever you are dabbling into ?
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by ifenes(m): 7:02pm On Dec 16, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


All I see is Infinite regression and an inchoate ideology . Isn't it rational to believe in an eternal being than whatever you are dabbling into ?

I am talking to an eternal being named Ebuka. Unfortunately he doesn't see himself as one.
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:05pm On Dec 16, 2015
ifenes:


I am talking to an eternal being named Ebuka. Unfortunately he doesn't see himself as one.

I have a beginning - my birth ... you do too . Plus the universe has a beginning right ? So if the universe has a beginning , how am I eternal ?

Though I am by faith since I'm christian ( without end with God after rapture)
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by ifenes(m): 3:38am On Dec 17, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


I have a beginning - my birth ... you do too . Plus the universe has a beginning right ? So if the universe has a beginning , how am I eternal ?

Though I am by faith since I'm christian ( without end with God after rapture)

Right now you don't have a clue about your beginning.your life did not begin in the womb, it is eternal.

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Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by Toyolad(m): 7:33am On Dec 17, 2015
ifenes:


Right now you don't have a clue about your beginning.your life did not begin in the womb, it is eternal.
OK, before a sperm fertilize an ovum that form him, who was he?? A spirit hovering the face of d earth until he entered d zygote in his mother's womb?

ifenes:

Must you use the world gods? I cannot tell their origin,but I can guess they were hybrids of other species. Often time some species realize they are dying out and they look for other civilization to breed with. Survival have various forms. Intelligent beings often make use of artificial means.
ifenes:
they can die out and at same time they are eternal? tell me more!!! Lol

Right now you don't have a clue about your beginning.your life did not begin in the womb, it is eternal.
OK, before a sperm fertilize an ovum that form him, who was he?? A spirit hovering the face of d earth until he entered d zygote in his mother's womb?
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by ifenes(m): 10:08am On Dec 17, 2015
Toyolad:
OK, before a sperm fertilize an ovum that form him, who was he?? A spirit hovering the face of d earth until he entered d zygote in his mother's womb?]

A spirit doesn't over. The internet doesn't over to enter a phone. It is always there even when there is no phone. If you match the frequency/password etc your phone will automatically have internet. So apply that to your question.

OK, before a sperm fertilize an ovum that form him, who was he?? A spirit hovering the face of d earth until he entered d zygote in his mother's womb?


I have answered your repeated question. Spirit and internet are the same thing. The upgrade of the phone is there to extract more potentials to use the internet better.

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Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by Toyolad(m): 7:16pm On Dec 17, 2015
ifenes:


Must you use the world gods? I cannot tell their origin,but I can guess they were hybrids of other species. Often time some species realize they are dying out and they look for other civilization to breed with. Survival have various forms. Intelligent beings often make use of artificial means.
I still don't get oh, they can realize that they are dying out and again u said they, we inclusive, are eternal. pls synthesize these contradictions.
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by unphilaz(m): 4:33pm On Dec 25, 2015
ifenes:


This will be a waste of time.

Dig this
The power of thought is believed to have created everything we see. It is said that we are pure consciousness experiencing life on this planet in an avatar known as our bodies. We humans/animals/planets/stars are the creators and creation,designer and design comprising of an unlimited energy field confused as God

and to which kingebuka responded
You claim that thoughts created the universe when only thoughts can proceed from a Mind when given substance . [size=18pt]This everlasting conscious entity called God who exists in a higher superior realm gave substance to his thoughts and the universe was born .[/size] His thoughts of the universe manifests in the expansion of the universe . An inherent constituent of God - energy - cannot be created or destroyed . God has no beginning or end and He is everywhere . God is conscious energy indeed . God created matter - an intention of his mind - thoughts
https://www.nairaland.com/2786110/atheist-how-want-heb-11#40858936

and you mentioned this
The bible gods were the anunaki.
which signify a CONSCIOUSNESS against other atheist!
https://www.nairaland.com/2786110/atheist-how-want-heb-11/1#40859825

so how can this thread be nonsense except you are accepting that your views of an "unlimited energy field" is NONSENSE?
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by unphilaz(m): 4:37pm On Dec 25, 2015
ifenes:


I never said aliens are the real gods,I said they are the gods of every religion on this planet. I don't worship aliens ok?

YAHWEH is one of the many. If you wanna know more make your research.


Good acknowledgement of their existence tho you dont worship any! so we have a witness that we have an atheist that believes in Intelligent Consciousness. Hope to hear of other atheist who on the other divide i.e inanimate existence.
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by unphilaz(m): 4:46pm On Dec 25, 2015
ifenes:


Must you use the world gods? I cannot tell their origin,but I can guess they were hybrids of other species. Often time some species realize they are dying out and they look for other civilization to breed with. Survival have various forms. Intelligent beings often make use of artificial means.

you mean this sons of God are the annuki
"And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Genesis 6:1-6
Re: Athiest: Intelligent Consciousness Vs Inanimate Existence by Oluwaseytiano(m): 5:21pm On Dec 25, 2015
ifenes:



what a silly question! I should provide my source? grin grin grin

Like I said this thread will be a waste of time as it seem I talk to primitive humans. Humans who believe in gods,makes me feel like I traveled back in time.
Pride, vanity, hubris. Is there hope for humanity?

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