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If Ojuwkwu was not governor, would We Have Fought a war? by coolscott(m): 12:38am On Dec 12, 2015
[size=13pt]A question for all. If an Efik or Ibibio or Ijaw or Anang or Urhobo man was the then military administrator of the then eastern region, do you think he would have led the country into war in 1966 on account of the happening in the north?

If war happened to be on the table, don't you think he would have consulted with as many ethnic groups in the region as possible about the options before the region before going ahead with such a major and expensive decision?

All views are welcome.[/size]
Re: If Ojuwkwu was not governor, would We Have Fought a war? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 12:42am On Dec 12, 2015
No, but you are making it about Ojukwu
We may not have gone to war even if it was another Igboman as governor
Even Ojukwu tried everything to avoid war but when your people push for independence, you either lead the way or you step down
Biafra was a people's wish, not Ojukwu's

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Re: If Ojuwkwu was not governor, would We Have Fought a war? by hakeem4(m): 12:42am On Dec 12, 2015
It was the Igbo elders that adviced Ojukwu to seceded
Re: If Ojuwkwu was not governor, would We Have Fought a war? by coolscott(m): 12:54am On Dec 12, 2015
AlfaSeltzer:
No, but you are making it about Ojukwu
We may not have gone to war even if it was another Igboman as governor
Even Ojukwu tried everything to avoid war but when your people push for independence, you either lead the way or you step down
Biafra was a people's wish, not Ojukwu's
[size=13pt]It is on record that Ojukwu did not try everything to avoid a war. Records show that he did not hid the pleas of Awo and co to take a different route.[/size]

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Re: If Ojuwkwu was not governor, would We Have Fought a war? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 12:55am On Dec 12, 2015
coolscott:

It is on record that Ojukwu did not try everything to avoid a war. Records show that he did not hid the pleas of Awo and co to take a different route.

Which record?

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Re: If Ojuwkwu was not governor, would We Have Fought a war? by coolscott(m): 1:14am On Dec 12, 2015
AlfaSeltzer:


Which record?
[size=13pt]Are you not aware that transcripts of their meetings were kept?
The documents are there and I will bring them here. I observe that many times we do not read the written records and hold on to ideas that have appealed to us as truths even when no one has connected them to any shred of credible evidence.

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Re: If Ojuwkwu was not governor, would We Have Fought a war? by mazzi: 1:51am On Dec 12, 2015
coolscott:

[size=13pt]Are you not aware that transcripts of their meetings were kept?
The documents are there and I will bring them here. I observe that many times we do not read the written records and hold on to ideas that have appealed to us as truths even when no one has connected them to any shred of credible evidence.

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are you talking of Aburi accord that gowon failed to honour?

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Re: If Ojuwkwu was not governor, would We Have Fought a war? by coolscott(m): 1:56am On Dec 12, 2015
mazzi:
are you talking of Aburi accord that gowon failed to honour?
[size=13pt]No. We are talking of the meeting between Awo, Ojukwu and others. In Enugu I believe it was[/size]

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Re: If Ojuwkwu was not governor, would We Have Fought a war? by Ovamboland(m): 5:42am On Dec 12, 2015
Old2020:
Op I know you are yoruba by how tactical and divisive your question is. Let me answer you, yes we would have still fought the war as long as Awolowo betrayed the former Eastern Region. Had Awolowo told Ojukwu confidently in the face like a man...Listen Ojukwu I and my Western Region have no interest in pulling out of the federation and I'll not support you if choose to pull out, between God and man, the war would have never happened. Instead Awolowo assured Ojukwu that the west will pull out if he Ojukwu follows on his secession. Ojukwu knew if two of the three regions choose to secede, the remaining one will accept as the 2/3 signifies majority. However Awolowo being the yoruba that he is...he covets Igbo political and socioeconomic presence in the federation and got assurance from the North that if the Igbos were damaged by the war, them yoruba will become the face of the new socioeconomic status...occupy corporation, federal agency, banks and educatinal postions, these were positions historical held by Igbos....fact; even Sarduna of Sokoto confirmed this! Awolowo jumped on it which explained why he was starving Biafrans and ditching out 25 pounds to every Biafran irrespective if you had millions prior to the war, he was offering yorubas free education so that they could catch up with the Igbos and eventually get ahead. It worked but as we know it today the Igbos have since reclaimed their rightful position once held prior to the war as most educated, highest social economic status, control of banking sector and more. So Awolowo was the problem, his twofaced yoruba character caused the war and all effort he made to push his own to the top is waste...a waste as in Igbos are still at the top.

Just as Germans will always lead all Europeans when it comes to technology and invention capability no matter how hard other Europeans try or are pushed to upset the Germans, likewise Biafrans will always be the face of Africa no matter how hard Hausa or yoruba try, they can never upset Biafrans. If you like massacre them to reta$rd their domination, 20 yrs later they will reappear again at the top, just as they did after they were strategically damaged in the civil war. Go and read about the four highly blessed and gifted ethnicities/races...Jews, Germans, Japanese and Igbos, and learn about what they have in common. Before you become envious, I didn't make the last statement and I'm not Igbo, American and European philosophers did. One of them is Dr. Sowell who is still alive.


The bold statement are the kind of false stories that portrays Ojukwu more as a man of very low IQ. How can a Sandhurst trained military man expect a civilian lawyer/politician who has never commanded a platoon, does not hold any government office, to go to a radio station to announce secession of his region and hinge his strategic decision to create Biafra on this purported promise.
Good you have said you are not Ibo, as i don't expect any one from that side with sense to still believe the foolish story.

There is no point addressing you further lies and foolish stories in the rest of your post like Awolowo started free education in Western region only in 1967 in response to Biafra? If they tell you false stories you should have enough commonsense to read in between the lines, you are no longer a kid

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Re: If Ojuwkwu was not governor, would We Have Fought a war? by whoawa(m): 7:27am On Dec 12, 2015
If ur father didn't climb on ur mother, would you have come to this world?
Re: If Ojuwkwu was not governor, would We Have Fought a war? by IGBOPRINCE: 8:01am On Dec 12, 2015
I don't care who is at faults in the past and I don't care who led to the broke out of war in the 60s. I believes the war that took place in the 60s is part of our destiny and that s bygones. Believe THAT.
Currently in 2015, my people wants biafra and they re stating it loud and clear. I guess this is the right time to go. For the sake of peace, Nigerian should believe THAT.

A nation is more progressing than a country. Believe THAT.
A country like nigeria can never progress with people like hausas, yorubas and some part of confused southsouth..

Believe THAT.

The leaders re too bias,tribalist and sentimental,hence the country backwardness.
Coal in enugwu was abandoned.
Dredging of Obuaku river to upgrade it to seaports in abia state was abandoned.
Federal roads in the east were abandoned too.
Failure to give anioma their own state to add up eastern state was laid to rest.
Dredging of river niger in anambra state scared the nigerian a lot .
They don't wants progress in the east or even in their own country. We biafrans love development and progress and we cannot be with a tribe that love backwards.

The systems is bad and corrupt. Believe THAT
Re: If Ojuwkwu was not governor, would We Have Fought a war? by PreyingMantis(m): 8:04am On Dec 12, 2015
coolscott:
[size=13pt]A question for all. If an Efik or Ibibio or Ijaw or Anang or Urhobo man was the then military administrator of the then eastern region, do you think he would have led the country into war in 1966 on account of the happening in the north?

If war happened to be on the table, don't you think he would have consulted with as many ethnic groups in the region as possible about the options before the region before going ahead with such a major and expensive decision?

All views are welcome.[/size]
If Yakubu Gowon had not been at the helm of affairs then, would we have gone to war? Who fired the first shots? Nigeria!

If Yakubu Gowon had implemented the Aburi accord, would we have gone to war?

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Re: If Ojuwkwu was not governor, would We Have Fought a war? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 8:20am On Dec 12, 2015
coolscott:

[size=13pt]Are you not aware that transcripts of their meetings were kept?
The documents are there and I will bring them here. I observe that many times we do not read the written records and hold on to ideas that have appealed to us as truths even when no one has connected them to any shred of credible evidence.

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I can't wait to see these records
Re: If Ojuwkwu was not governor, would We Have Fought a war? by coolscott(m): 3:52pm On Dec 12, 2015
mazzi:
are you talking of Aburi accord that gowon failed to honour?
No. talking of the meeting in Enugu

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