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Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by abnsugbe: 9:56am On Dec 13, 2015
Johnbosco77:
religion of peace.......

Islam is a threat to human existence. They don't practice what they say and don't say what they actually practice. Boko haram, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Fulani Herdsmen are all Islamic group. Terrorist set of people.
Until muslims rise and not just condemn the actions of terrorists but go further to publicly disassociate themselves from those monsters, I won't stop bashing them cos the truth isnot all muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are muslims

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Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by RALPHOW(m): 10:09am On Dec 13, 2015
What is all this nonsense about muslims their are different Christian denominations and some did not have the same ideology, but they never kill each other.

Why are they so violent? Please God do something about this people before they destroy the works of your hands.
Every where Islam this Islam that.
Muslims please be careful



GspotAngela:
Last Year, soldiers from the 176 Special Forces Battalion, the special operations element of the Brigade of Guards, killed three of Sheikh Ibrahim Zakzaky's son. Few weeks ago, Boko Haram insurgents detonated a suicide bomb during their procession, killing several memebers of the Islamic Movement.

Let it be known, that the Shi'a in Nigeria have been victim of government and insurgent repression from the days of the regime of late General Sani Abacha. Today, they have been extra judicially killed again by the NA under a flimsy excuse of an attempted assasination of the COAS

The major violent clash the shi'a were involved in was between them and Izala Moslems in Nigeria few years ago which was precipitated by Shi'a practise of cursing Aisha(RA) and the companions of the Prophet(SWA), a practise that has been condemned by the Supreme leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Sayyid Khomeni, in one of his fatwas.
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by adamshuaib(m): 10:10am On Dec 13, 2015
atoleybaba:
dude u just dy comment out of concept are u daft? When last did u hear about d crusaders? Av u ever witnessed any of their operation be it on TV(news) or first hand?

Guy, the dude was claiming ''no other religion has caused casualties more than islam'' guessed he forgot about crusaders
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by dealslip(f): 10:33am On Dec 13, 2015
olapluto:

You're an ignorant person, who cant think beyond current situation. Can you tell me how many instances of terrorism occurred before 9/11?
So why has peace eluded every country where Muslim protest or ask for supremacy. Let us call a spade a spade. Islam was violent from the beginning and still violent and getting untameable. If you want us to think otherwise, you guys should do some thing about the rising terror from Islamist all over the world. Live and let's live.
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by dealslip(f): 10:39am On Dec 13, 2015
Babajk:
for your information shiites are not muslim and are not practising it, they are hiding under it to cause mayhem, for clarification meet any muslim that is knowledgeable he will explain that 2 you.

Shiites are Muslims. They only do not believe in the successor of Mohammed, Abubakr and Aisha the wife of Mohammed who claim Mohammed name Abubakr as successor
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by olumite1234(m): 11:00am On Dec 13, 2015
912:
Why is it that Muslims are always involved in every issue of religious violence in this world?

I'm not sure Islam is really a religion of peace as they claim because no other religion has caused the death of so many people in this world.

As a matter of fact the religion claims more lives in a year than any tsunami ever have

No islamic state has ever receive a single refugee from syria and lebanon.
Islamic religion is of the devil.
The religion is always against humanity, full of violence.

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Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by khadeejahS: 11:02am On Dec 13, 2015
please don't be stupid. people should know enough and conduct proper research before they have opinions. Muslims believe in Allah as the one and only God and the Prophet Muhammad(S.A.W) as his last messenger. you have to believe that to be a Muslim. Shi'ites are not Muslims because they do not believe in the Prophet Muhammad. They claim that he was the wrong one. So again i repeat Shi'ites are not Muslims.
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by Rafidi: 11:09am On Dec 13, 2015
khadeejahS:
please don't be stupid. people should know enough and conduct proper research before they have opinions. Muslims believe in Allah as the one and only God and the Prophet Muhammad(S.A.W) as his last messenger. you have to believe that to be a Muslim. Shi'ites are not Muslims because they do not believe in the Prophet Muhammad. They claim that he was the wrong one. So again i repeat Shi'ites are not Muslims.

You are wrong madam. You are the one that needs research. Stop reading rumors and falsified information. I am Shia Muslim and that is not what we believe. We believe in Almoghty Allah as the one and only invisible God and lord and in Muhammad (s) as the last prophet and messenger of Allah. We differ with Sunni Muslims in that we believe in Imamate and Sunnis don't. Sunnis believe in caliphate.
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by atoleybaba(m): 11:46am On Dec 13, 2015
adamshuaib:


Guy, the dude was claiming ''no other religion has caused casualties more than islam'' guessed he forgot about crusaders
so are u saying d crusaders av caused more casualties than Islamic terrorists?
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by khadeejahS: 12:18pm On Dec 13, 2015
Yeah?...Then what's with the all Black and the Temporary Marriages and the stopping people from going to their daily activities and the three prayers only. Its really sad because its things like this that give people very wrong impression about Islam. All I know is that Shi'ites are not muslims because they break countless obvious rules that has to do with Islam.
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by hayzed1090: 12:55pm On Dec 13, 2015
Rafidi:


You are wrong madam. You are the one that needs research. Stop reading rumors and falsified information. I am Shia Muslim and that is not what we believe. We believe in Almoghty Allah as the one and only invisible God and lord and in Muhammad (s) as the last prophet and messenger of Allah. We differ with Sunni Muslims in that we believe in Imamate and Sunnis don't. Sunnis believe in caliphate.

Salam alaykum brother, pls wat is the difference between imamate and caliphate? Thanks
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by lastmanstandn(m): 1:11pm On Dec 13, 2015
GspotAngela:
Last Year, soldiers from the 176 Special Forces Battalion, the special operations element of the Brigade of Guards, killed three of Sheikh Ibrahim Zakzaky's son. Few weeks ago, Boko Haram insurgents detonated a suicide bomb during their procession, killing several memebers of the Islamic Movement.

Let it be known, that the Shi'a in Nigeria have been victim of government and insurgent repression from the days of the regime of late General Sani Abacha. Today, they have been extra judicially killed again by the NA under a flimsy excuse of an attempted assasination of the COAS

The major violent clash the shi'a were involved in was between them and Izala Moslems in Nigeria few years ago which was precipitated by Shi'a practise of cursing Aisha(RA) and the companions of the Prophet(SWA), a practise that has been condemned by the Supreme leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Sayyid Khomeni, in one of his fatwas.

You'd better take off your the radical view covering your reasoning. The movement has from time to time provoked the Nigerian state while hiding behind the facade of promoting peace and condemning Boko Haram. You organize yourself as a militia, dress as one, hoist flags, chant hateful rhetorics against the Nigerian State and its constitution and what to be back patted?

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Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by Rafidi: 1:17pm On Dec 13, 2015
hayzed1090:

Salam alaykum brother, pls wat is the difference between imamate and caliphate? Thanks

Salam brother,

In Shia Islamic theology, Imamate is the leadership of the 12 holy Imams from the Ahlul-Bayt of the holy Prophet Muhammad. Imamate or Imamah means "leadership", both in the spiritual and political sense. The Shia hold that the 12 Imams are the rightful successors (caliphs) of the Prophet Muhammad chosen and appointed by Allah and declared by the Prophet; in other words the Prophet left a successor to carry on from where he stopped. They were imams, and not prophets as Muhammad (s) is the last prophet and messenger of Allah. The imams are interpreters of the Quran and brought no new revelation themselves. They inherited the prophetic knowledge of their forefather, the holy Prophey Muhammad.The last or the twelfth Imam is the Mahdi who is in Ghaibah and will return along with Prophet Isa (Jesus).

Caliphate in Sunni theology refers to the political succession to the Prophet. Sunnis believe anyone can succeed the Prophet and that the Prophet left no appointed successor. They believe the promised Mahdi is not the twelfth Imam and he has not been born yet. The office of caliphate is political and the caliph doesn't need to possess superior knowledge to lead the ummah. Sunnis therefore do not believe in the Twelve Imams. They believe Imam Ali (as) was the fourth caliph and that Abu Bakr was the first. The Shia believe Imam Ali was the first Imam, a position that combines a political and religious/spiritual office. To the Shia anyone aside from the Twelve Imams who claim to be successor to the Prophet or leader of the ummah is an unjust usurper and tyrant. This point is very sensitive because Sunnis feel it is an insult to people like Abu Bakr and Umar (the first and second Sunni caliphs) who were companions of the Prophet. Shia do not believe the companions of the Prophet are above scrutiny or criticism and hold that a number of them were unjust after the Prophet passed away and they oppressed the Prophet Muhammad's Ahlul-Bayt.

You can google more on the topic or even check the Islam section on nairaland for more info. Make sure to confirm your sources and use info from both sides to compare for a fair conclusion.

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Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by Rafidi: 1:20pm On Dec 13, 2015
lastmanstandn:


You'd better take off your the radical view covering your reasoning. The movement has from time to time provoked the Nigerian state while hiding behind the facade of promoting peace and condemning Boko Haram. You organize yourself as a militia, dress as one, hoist flags, chant hateful rhetorics against the Nigerian State and its constitution and what to be back patted?

You are making abstract arguments and unfounded claims against the weak and oppressed because they belong to a minority creed . Does all you have stated warrant killing people?
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by Nobody: 1:51pm On Dec 13, 2015
A WISE MAN FROM MY STATE SIR UDO UDOMA ONCE SAID HIS PEOPLE OF IKOT ABASI SHOULD NOT WORRY SINCE THEY HAVE REFUSE TO DEVELOP THEIR AREA THAT WHEN THEY FINISH DEVELOPING EVERYWHERE AND THERE IS NON LEFT THEY WILL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO DEVELOP IKOT ABASI, TODAY IKOT ABASI IS DEVELOPING, HIS SON IS A TWO TIME SENATOR AND CURRENTLY A MINISTER. ALSO WHEN THE NORTHERNERS WHERE BURNING CHURCHES AND KILLING CHRISTIANS, I KNEW WHEN THE CHURCHES AND CHRISTIANS FINISHES THEY WILL START KILLING THEIRSELVES AND BOMBING MOSQUE. PROUDLY 5% ANY DAY. HOW DO YOU PITY A KARMA VICTIM?
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by khadeejahS: 2:13pm On Dec 13, 2015
Rafidi:


You are wrong madam. You are the one that needs research. Stop reading rumors and falsified information. I am Shia Muslim and that is not what we believe. We believe in Almighty Allah as the one and only invisible God and lord and in Muhammad (s) as the last prophet and messenger of Allah. We differ with Sunni Muslims in that we believe in Imamate and Sunnis don't. Sunnis believe in caliphate.
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You still haven't answered. what is with the black like cultsts when Allah SWT has already told his believers never to wear attires with no other colour but black. what is with with the temporary marriages. You claim to believe in prophet SAW and know that insulting a woman is also insulting her husband. How illogical to let another man sleep with your wife. what's with the stopping people from going to their daily activities. is that the peace we preach. Imamates are innovations and you should know the punishments ordained by Allah when it comes to innovations. what's with the insults offered in some prayers. The problems the Shi'ites caused in the former regime will not repeat itself because Buhari won't take it. so in this regime I know you will manage and go extinct like the dinosaurs if you guys don't respect yourself. I hope and pray that Allah removes the veil that has covered your eyes. Allah SWT said that a person who sins for all his daily activities so much that sinning becomes acceptable to him Allah removes the fear of Him from his heart. Think and check every single daily activity I hope you see the truth before you meet your creator
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by Nobody: 2:15pm On Dec 13, 2015
IamDino:
Buhari! Buhari!!
Is this the change you promised Nigeria?
Thunder fire you.
God will punish you very well.

You voted for him,didn't I warn you ?
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by Rafidi: 2:54pm On Dec 13, 2015
khadeejahS:
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You still haven't answered. what is with the black like cultsts when Allah SWT has already told his believers never to wear attires with no other colour but black. what is with with the temporary marriages. You claim to believe in prophet SAW and know that insulting a woman is also insulting her husband. How illogical to let another man sleep with your wife. what's with the stopping people from going to their daily activities. is that the peace we preach. Imamates are innovations and you should know the punishments ordained by Allah when it comes to innovations. what's with the insults offered in some prayers. The problems the Shi'ites caused in the former regime will not repeat itself because Buhari won't take it. so in this regime I know you will manage and go extinct like the dinosaurs if you guys don't respect yourself. I hope and pray that Allah removes the veil that has covered your eyes. Allah SWT said that a person who sins for all his daily activities so much that sinning becomes acceptable to him Allah removes the fear of Him from his heart. Think and check every single daily activity I hope you see the truth before you meet your creator

This is your answer:

"And the servants of the Most Merciful Allah are they who walk on the earth in humbleness, and when the ignorant folks address them, they say: Peace (Salam) " (Holy Quran 25:63)
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by khadeejahS: 3:06pm On Dec 13, 2015
Rafidi:


This is your answer:

"And the servants of the Most Merciful Allah are they who walk on the earth in humbleness, and when the ignorant folks address them, they say: Peace (Salam) " (Holy Quran 25:63)
Answer the question so others can know
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by Kamdex(m): 3:12pm On Dec 13, 2015
912:
Why is it that Muslims are always involved in every issue of religious violence in this world?

I'm not sure Islam is really a religion of peace as they claim because no other religion has caused the death of so many people in this world.

As a matter of fact the religion claims more lives in a year than any tsunami ever have
Watch ur stupid utterances 4m dat bad hole u called mouth of urz.....**Al Islam Al Salam**.....i wnt b surprise @ d end dat itz ur bastardise brodas n 6tas hidin under d umbrella bt I kno Almighty Allah is watchin n Wil soon retaliate.....I am a Muslim n nt a Terrorist.........Go watch d india film *I am Khan n nt a Terrorist*
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by Obiwannn: 5:45pm On Dec 13, 2015
Generalkorex:

baba I sight u o.
How merkel land?
Merkel land dey jarre... Boring as usual
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by likila: 6:34pm On Dec 13, 2015
Babajk:
for your information shiites are not muslim and are not practising it, they are hiding under it to cause mayhem, for clarification meet any muslim that is knowledgeable he will explain that 2 you.

you are a real bastard.
Shiites are moslims who believe that Mohammed's nephew should be his successor. This nephew, Ali, was assasinated by some other Islamic cliquee then based in Damascus.
The Sunnis are those Moslims, including the clique from Damascus froom which the word assasin originated, who belived Mohammed's successor should be the most knowledgeable Imam.
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by Jidibia(m): 7:52pm On Dec 13, 2015
adamshuaib:


Guy, the dude was claiming ''no other religion has caused casualties more than islam'' guessed he forgot about crusaders
BASTARD..... WHAT DA Bleep DO YOU KNOW ABOUT CRUSADER?
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by razzberries: 8:00pm On Dec 13, 2015
olapluto:

You're an ignorant person, who cant think beyond current situation. Can you tell me how many instances of terrorism occurred before 9/11?

you probably don't known your religion then, since 1400 years ago Islam has been terrorising the whole world, thank God for the Crusaders who fought with their last blood to see an end to evil dominance of Islam. God knows where we would be now.
Ask India for how long did Islam terrorised them before Britain came to the rescue because they refuse the evil called Islam, find out what happened in the trans-sahara slave route.

before you talk, even though talk-is-cheap we know, do some home work dear
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by annnikky(f): 8:29pm On Dec 13, 2015
where is this country heading to? from one sect to another, is this the change that they promised us at d podium? instead of PMB to seat a'home n take care of the country that GEJ left in his care, he's there touring the world around n shaking hands with other presidents while his country is on fire. There is Gods oooo
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by donj84: 8:28am On Dec 14, 2015
912:


I Couldn't quite comprehend the point you were trying to make. I think you need to reword your post. Also I didn't say Islam is not a religion.

Simple english, if you say islam is not a religion of peace, you are generalizing all Muslims in quote that they are not peaceful..then help me with this questions? Which religion is religion of peace..I know u will call the religion most of we all practise, Christianity..now if its peaceful, why do they kill themselves over post or positions in the church and outside world, majority of the armed robbers that have been caught over the years till now, which name do they bear?? Christian or muslim names
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by ZipporahElla(f): 8:44am On Dec 14, 2015
Abeg person done tire for naija, see as them even attack our area kkill one pregnant woman n her children come attack 4 other families just around 8pm(fulani) here in jos, we should all await our call cause we don't know when. And how though all terrorists are Muslims buh not all Muslims are terrorist, buh e de be me like say na all cause I never c any better thing em done do for naija[color=#990000][/color]
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by Babajk(m): 3:17pm On Dec 19, 2015
likila:


you are a real bastard.
Shiites are moslims who believe that Mohammed's nephew should be his successor. This nephew, Ali, was assasinated by some other Islamic cliquee then based in Damascus.
The Sunnis are those Moslims, including the clique from Damascus froom which the word assasin originated, who belived Mohammed's successor should be the most knowledgeable Imam.
. Your responds is a clear indication you share some resemblance with them, just a question for you why did u join them. Because of muttua or what ?
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by Babajk(m): 3:22pm On Dec 19, 2015
dealslip:


Shiites are Muslims. They only do not believe in the successor of Mohammed, Abubakr and Aisha the wife of Mohammed who claim Mohammed name Abubakr as successor
they are not, and I will like that people shoudnt regard them as one. He that is a Muslim will ever doubt the teachings SAW rightly guided khalifas, dey change the deen so they are not part of us.
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by crosbreaka: 3:29pm On Dec 19, 2015
Babajk:
they are not, and I will like that people shoudnt regard them as one. He that is a Muslim will ever doubt the teachings SAW rightly guided khalifas, dey change the deen so they are not part of us.

if they are not, then let them be. it is not illegal in Nigeria to be a non-Muslim. is it a crime? nawa o. which kind wahala be this one? na by force to be Muslim?
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by Babajk(m): 8:17pm On Dec 19, 2015
crosbreaka:


if they are not, then let them be. it is not illegal in Nigeria to be a non-Muslim. is it a crime? nawa o. which kind wahala be this one? na by force to be Muslim?
exactly this what I want u people to understand, a shitte's remain a shiite. I disagree anytime dey are regarded as muslim dey are not part of d muslim ummah.
Re: Pictures From Shiites-Army Clash In Zaria, Many Feared Dead by razzberries: 10:23am On Jan 02, 2016
marwanafrica:


people are using same social media to acept d truth and you are going going nearer to d hell fire nd u re api.
SMH 4 u
there is no such thing as peace or happiness in Islam, pls do not deceive your self further, u guys are living under bondage of Satan and you think it is God.
when u encounter Jesus you will know the difference, I have had a taste of both.


They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work.
Tit 1:16

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