KingEbukasBlog:


I asked you a question first . If you wish to continue arguing with me , you might end up embarrassing yourself .

You listed 10 points initially and called out scholar8200 to give his own points . I gave you a simple assignment and asked a simple question and off course I get digressions and disingenuousness from you , I expected such though .

Should I list out more names you should google or is the wickedness of Mao too much for you to carry for today >

By the way , Christ never subscribed to killings as a means of spreading the gospel

Mark 16:15-16


15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

And if they dont accept His word ...

Matthew 10:14

14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.


So every right thing true believer condemns killings and the practice of idolatry and paganism in the name of Christianity (If you know what I mean )

You are simply using the sentiment of your religion to back your arguments. If you are as intelligent as you try to appear you would've known I answered your question when I pointed out that Mao Zedong and Hitler were cleansing their societies of undesirable elements. They killed people in their millions but they are vindicated today because they bettered their societies. Forget quoting a bible that contradicts itself and point out what the world have benefited from religious killings. You cannot embarrass me, my man. I'm far more educated in this topic than you. I can point out achievements of atheists who killed people but you should be able to give me achievements of religious killings. I'm waiting here for you.

Its sad to see the christianized pawns defedning their slave master's religion. Ebuka and co

oglalasioux:

You are simply using the sentiment of your religion to back your arguments. If you are as intelligent as you try to appear you would've known I answered your question when I pointed out that Mao Zedong and Hitler were cleansing their societies of undesirable elements. They killed people in their millions but they are vindicated today because they bettered their societies. Forget quoting a bible that contradicts itself and point out what the world have benefited from religious killings. You cannot embarrass me, my man. I'm far more educated in this topic than you. [size=20pt]I can point out achievements of atheists who killed people[/size] but you should be able to give me achievements of religious killings. I'm waiting here for you.

If I should kill your child for the betterment of Nigeria , will you accept ?

By the way Mao and Hitler were megalomaniacs just like big fat Kim of NK - do you have a rebuttal for this ?

You appear to be a really bad person . I condemned the killings in the name of religion while you justified the killings of people ?

ifeness , continue oo ... say hi to your other accounts 1feness , ifenes , raidness (the female you ) .

The hunt for likes just got real

Judas2013:
Its sad to see the christianized pawns defedning their slave master's religion. Ebuka and co

But its not sad to see and expose the lies posted by the OP ? ... and the hypocrisy , deceit and dishonesty from the atheist continue

KingEbukasBlog:
ifeness , continue oo ... say hi to your other accounts 1feness , ifenes , raidness (the female you ) .

The hunt for likes just got real

I don't know who raidness is, others got to much lengthy bans,had to deactivate them. Hunt for likes, who cares about being liked? That's for instagram.

ifenes:


I don't know who raidness is, others got to much lengthy bans,had to deactivate them. Hunt for likes, who cares about being liked? That's for instagram.

hmmm ... why the lengthy ban ?

but wait ... are the mods aliens who want to stop you from exposing their mission on earth ?

KingEbukasBlog:


If I should kill your child for the betterment of Nigeria , will you accept ?

By the way Mao and Hitler were megalomaniacs just like big fat Kim of NK - do you have a rebuttal for this ?

You appear to be a really bad person . I condemned the killings in the name of religion while you justified the killings of people ?

You've started judging my person. That's how you religious people start your fundamentalist ideas. Next you'll feel like throwing a bomb at me. Open your mind a little; the killings carried out by people like Mao Zedong, Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler and the rest and killings by religious groups which have benefited the world most? If you don't know let me tell you that 80% of the breakthroughs in medicine was made in Hitler's Germany. China's economic prowess was set up by Mao Zedong and his political philosophy is still used in China today. Here are two groups of people who are killers, Mao Zedong and the rest dictators and the religions. Let's look at why both killed and the world benefits. You'll see at the end that religions have no single reason yet they've incited more wars and killings than Mao Zedong, Hitler, Stalin and natural disasters put together.

KingEbukasBlog:


hmmm ... why the lengthy ban ?

but wait ... are the mods aliens who want to stop you from exposing their mission on earth ?

Probably christian mods,who knows. Somehow I just enjoy nairaland,the only way i keep touch with Nigeria. Otherwise I won't know how serious religion is over there.

This is not an atheist versus theist post. My ancestors were not atheists and I am not one. I am an Aborisha one who is always ready to worship anyone and anything. Do not reduce this post to an atheist versus theist debate. Thanks. There is God but that God is not the beast Christians and Muslims are portraying him to be. I am relaying real accounts that can be independently verified on google without you spending money or moving an inch. Those accounts are more original and more authentic than your Bible account that will tell you Herod ordered babies to be killed when nothing like that happened. May God guide us aright. Ase.

oglalasioux:

You've started judging my person.

I wasn't

That's how you religious people start your fundamentalist ideas. Next you'll feel like throwing a bomb at me.

ok

Open your mind a little; the killings carried out by people like Mao Zedong, Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler and the rest and killings by religious groups which have benefited the world most?

You are insane

If you don't know let me tell you that 80% of the breakthroughs in medicine was made in Hitler's Germany. China's economic prowess was set up by Mao Zedong and his political philosophy is still used in China today. Here are two groups of people who are killers, Mao Zedong and the rest dictators and the religions. Let's look at why both killed and the world benefits. You'll see at the end that religions have no single reason yet they've incited more wars and killings than Mao Zedong, Hitler, Stalin and natural disasters put together.

Please stop the digressions . The focus of the argument is who killed more . The religious people or the atheists ? Enforcing people to accept an ideology at all costs by a political leader is dictatorship and that's what's these people are - dictators . Stop defending them , its inhuman and wicked ! Pathetic , disgusting , repugnant !

Let me make this simpler . If you have a great idea for a family business and your family members dont agree with you . Will you slaughter them and explain to the court that you killed for the betterment of the family's succeeding generation Dont forget the future generations may reap in billions if you just have to kill them

ifenes:


Probably christian mods,who knows. Somehow I just enjoy nairaland,the only way i keep touch with Nigeria. Otherwise I won't know how serious religion is over there.

True ... I mean I'd ban you for propagating conspiracy theories - very deleterious to be discussed in a public forum .

How about politics , entertainment - these should interest you too

KingEbukasBlog:

I wasn't




ok




You are insane



Please stop the digressions . The focus of the argument is who killed more . The religious people or the atheists ? Enforcing people to accept an ideology at all costs by a political leader is dictatorship and that's what's these people are - dictators . Stop defending them , its inhuman and wicked ! Pathetic , disgusting , repugnant !

Let me make this simpler . If you have a great idea for a family business and your family members dont agree with you . Will you slaughter them and explain to the court that you killed for the betterment of the family's succeeding generation Dont forget the future generations may reap in billions if you just have to kill them

Apart from saying I'm insane you sounded more intelligent this time. Let's cast our minds back to the beginning of the last century. The industrial revolution was in full gear and some people weren't ready to accept or even work in it. For progress to be made some people had to get out of the way. That's the justification of the cleansing carried out by Mao and the rest of the dictators. Believe it or not, had they not put some people out of the way the world would not be where it is today. It sounds bizarre no doubt but the dictators had a reason for their killings. The religions don't have. Consider Papa Doc (google it) who was a dictator but used the cloak of religion to hoodwink his people and Mao who said if you don't work you must die. Who of the two was a hypocrite?

KingEbukasBlog:


True ... I mean I'd ban you for propagating conspiracy theories - very deleterious to be discussed in a public forum .

How about politics , entertainment - these should interest you too

No free speech in your country. Oh I forgot,third world! Well,still developing,always developing.

Your politics make me sad. Entertainment is alright.

Conspiracy theories often end up to be true.

oglalasioux:

Apart from saying I'm insane you sounded more intelligent this time. Let's cast our minds back to the beginning of the last century. The industrial revolution was in full gear and some people weren't ready to accept or even work in it. For progress to be made some people had to get out of the way. That's the justification of the cleansing carried out by Mao and the rest of the dictators. Believe it or not, had they not put some people out of the way the world would not be where it is today. It sounds bizarre no doubt but the dictators had a reason for their killings. The religions don't have. Consider Papa Doc (google it) who was a dictator but used the cloak of religion to hoodwink his people and Mao who said if you don't work you must die. Who of the two was a hypocrite?

Though its baffling that you justified the killings of millions , you actually downplayed the intelligence of these dictators who exhibited gross bigotry . Insisting that an abhorrent approach to effecting change is right also exposed the vacuousness of your intentions .

Did every country use this method to get where they are ? By the way China is not actually benefiting from MAO's wickedness - they took a much better reformation policy . MAO's dictatorship had very few notable good impact on the economy at that time but not to China's present economy .

And I sense you are evolutionist - survival of the fittest . The cruelty of evolution - the weak who could not succumb were killed , those who could not work were killed . Atheistic concepts like evolution are deleterious to a sound mind

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ifenes:


No free speech in your country. Oh I forgot,third world! Well,still developing,always developing.

Your politics make me sad. Entertainment is alright.

Conspiracy theories often end up to the true.

How many conspiracy theories turned out to be true ?

Lol ... politics is exciting ... who knows the next person Dansuki shared his national cake with ?

There is free speech here in Nigeria .

Taa... comot here ... is England your country ? And Yes , we are developing . The English kingdom emerged over 1000 yrs ago - they have every right to be well developed

KingEbukasBlog:
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How many conspiracy theories turned out to be true ?

Lol ... politics is exciting ... who knows the next person Dansuki shared his national cake with ?

There is free speech here in Nigeria .

Taa... comot here ... is England your country ? And Yes , we are developing . The English kingdom emerged over 1000 yrs ago - they have every right to be well developed

Fact or fiction?; Is the story of bible god who walk in the garden,used humans to mine gold,chased them out when they knew his secret etc is probably a believable story?

Or,is the bible god a spirit hanging in the sky,who now lives in the Christians heart?

I can imagine you will believe the 2nd due to years of brainwash.

Dasuki is only a physical representation of how your society thinks. All of you are corrupt anyway.

ifenes:


Fact or fiction?; Is the story of bible god who walk in the garden,used humans to mine gold,chased them out when they knew his secret etc is probably a believable story?

Or,is the bible god a spirit hanging in the sky,who now lives in the Christians heart?

I can imagine you will believe the 2nd due to years of brainwash.

Kai ... brother ifeness ... oya explain the origin of the annunakis

Dasuki is only a physical representation of how your society thinks. All of you are corrupt anyway.

I'm not

KingEbukasBlog:


Kai ... brother ifeness ... oya explain the origin of the annunakis



I'm not

You worship(workship) them,you should be more concerned about their origin.

Are you sure you are not corrupt?

ifenes:


You worship(workship) them,you should be more concerned about their origin.

Lol ... again brother ifeness cant explain the origin of the annunakis .

And God's origin ? He is eternal - no beginning or end . Not of this material universe but the annunakis have a beginning and of this material universe . So we are obviously talking of different entities .

Are you sure you are not corrupt?

Can you prove I am corrupt ?

ifenes:


You meant your dad

And a happy new 2016

KingEbukasBlog:



Lol ... again brother ifeness cant explain the origin of the annunakis .

And God's origin ? He is eternal - no beginning or end . Not of this material universe but the annunakis have a beginning and of this material universe . So we are obviously talking of different entities .




Can you prove I am corrupt ?

I will not go into lengthy debates on this. I have written loads about them. You are not a vibration of what you want to know. If I did tell you,you will be confused. So I will rather chill and let you enjoy the ignorance.

I never claimed you are corrupt,meant most Nigerian who grew up in that geographical area.

Boy oh boy , this is really hard for tithe paying son/ daughter of GOD.
POINT is how do one unlearn what u ve been tot since birth, how do you stop worshipping this demi god/ pastor s and g.o.o.
Well Jesus Christ never existed, it was an assumed person. He is not GOD, CANT BE GOD.

KingEbukasBlog:


Though its baffling that you justified the killings of millions , you actually downplayed the intelligence of these dictators who exhibited gross bigotry . Insisting that an abhorrent approach to effecting change is right also exposed the vacuousness of your intentions .

Did every country use this method to get where they are ? By the way China is not actually benefiting from MAO's wickedness - they took a much better reformation policy . MAO's dictatorship had very few notable good impact on the economy at that time but not to China's present economy .

And I sense you are evolutionist - survival of the fittest . The cruelty of evolution - the weak who could not succumb were killed , those who could not work were killed . Atheistic concepts like evolution are deleterious to a sound mind

Very brilliant response. You are however wrong about Mao. Secondly you are right that I'm an evolutionist. It by far answers my questions more than the bible and the religions. I'll rather believe the world is survival of the fittest than write the disparity between rich and poor, fortunate and unfortunate off as the will of a benevolent god.

vooks:

And a happy new 2016

Same to you

oglalasioux:

Very brilliant response. You are however wrong about Mao. Secondly you are right that I'm an evolutionist. It by far answers my questions more than the bible and the religions. I'll rather believe the world is survival of the fittest than write the disparity between rich and poor, fortunate and unfortunate off as the will of a benevolent god.

Thanks .

By the way , the disparity between the poor and the rich was never God's plan - clearly written in the bible . Even Jesus Christ knows there are poor people , that's why He wants the rich to help the poor - to alleviate their indigence - but instead the rich ostensibly help the poor with praise by the public as their main purpose .

Its never the survival of the fittest . That has been disproven long ago . How better adapted are the rich people to the environment than the poor ? Have you asked yourself why the rich are rich and why the poor are poor ?

eposho:

Well Jesus Christ never existed, it was an assumed person.

Prove it

He is not GOD, CANT BE GOD.

Your arianistic views have been disproven by the bible

ifenes:


I will not go into lengthy debates on this. I have written loads about them. You are not a vibration of what you want to know. If I did tell you,you will be confused. So I will rather chill and let you enjoy the ignorance.

Are you taking to your heels already ? Trust me , I will not be confused

I never claimed you are corrupt,meant most Nigerian who grew up in that geographical area.

I know

Did you grow up here in Nigeria ?

ifenes:


Same to you

Thank you M0ron

@Lawani.

Just on the ben Pantheras issue, I think that the infancy stories as contained in the books of Matthew and Luke are essentially made up, it should be clear that the author of Matthew is trying to place Jesus of Nazareth in a particular lineage and Luke simply embellishes the whole idea. The very first gospel, being the author of Mark does not provide any details of the infant Jesus nor does the author of John. Considering that the book of Matthew was likely written around 85CE or thereabouts it therefore follows that early Christians who had only the early writings of Mark around 65CE to follow would have had no idea that Jesus of Nazareth was born of a virgin.

The story of Pantheras is really striking, as you pointed out it obtains in the Jewish Talmud, I am also aware it is contained in a very rare Samaritan Midrash. I would point out that the writings were of those who had good reason to reject the divinity and Messiahship of Jesus of Nazareth, therefore in my view the story of Pantheras, as well as the infancy gospels of Matthew and Luke are likely false.

Interesting point you make about the use of magic ritual, any student of Qabbalah will recognize immediately what was going on in the scene where Jesus reputedly writes in the sand, and evades capture. I am amazed it was retained in the texts

I would say that a significant amount of the stories attributed to Jesus of Nazareth are a conflation of various first and second century bearers of the same name for instance, Jesus ben Ananias, who wailed about the impending destruction of the temple of Jerusalem, and various other “Messiahs”. Of particular interest is, Jesus ben Sapphias, leader of the Galillean boatmen and party of the poor who poured out their blood until the whole of the sea of Galilee ran red.

Sarassin:

@Lawani.
I would say that a significant amount of the stories attributed to Jesus of Nazareth are a conflation of various first and second century bearers of the same name for instance, Jesus ben Ananias, who wailed about the impending destruction of the temple of Jerusalem, and various other “Messiahs”. Of particular interest is, Jesus ben Sapphias, leader of the Galillean boatmen and party of the poor who poured out their blood until the whole of the sea of Galilee ran red.

Do you believe Jesus , the Son of God existed ?

KingEbukasBlog:


Do you believe Jesus , the Son of God existed ?

Yes, I believe Jesus of Nazareth lived, I don't believe biblical accounts accurately reflect his life.