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Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by TruthHurts1(m): 11:17pm On Dec 21, 2015
The real Muslims in this story were the terrorists. The muslims who refused to stand aside actually disobeyed Mohammed and the koran.

This is because unbelievers are described by Muhammad (in the Qur'an) as "the vilest of animals" and "losers."  Christians and Jews are hated by Allah to the extent that they are destined for eternal doom as a result of their beliefs.  It would make no sense for Muhammad to then recommend that they be taken as friends by Muslims.  In fact, the Qur'an plainly orders muslims not to take unbelievers as friends.

The Qur'an:
Qur'an (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by allenuzoma(m): 11:21pm On Dec 21, 2015
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Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by Krayzeejhay(m): 11:37pm On Dec 21, 2015
Ok
Jst dis act of love can't cover thousands of atrocities can it??
Good sha,I don't still trust dis islam thingy,sorry
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by Nobody: 12:20am On Dec 22, 2015
Lol

ugosonic1:
if Nigeria will be like this i think this country will be a better place. no matter how the islamic group fight Christians, Christians will always remain the most populated religion in the world
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by Nobody: 12:34am On Dec 22, 2015
I've noticed that the Christians who are serious with their religion i.e the mass shooters, the soldiers that flew the warplanes dropping nukes on innocent children & women in Iraq while looking for weapons of mass destruction that were never found, the George Bushes, the Zionist etc etc etc owns the bible and read it a lot. Well, maybe because there are so many verses in the bible that are violent, especially since Jesus Christ infamously said he didn't come to bring peace but a sword......and many more.

Now, how about that, dumb negro?

danidee10:
This is good news....but one thing I've noticed is that muslims who are not serious with their religion or just muslims by heritage who leave in the west are not violent but those that are serious and read the quran and the hadiths become violent why......Cuz there is a lot of violence in the quran against non believers... Please let any Muslim quote me I'm ready to debate with facts...but of course they'll not quote because allah and mohammed words must not be opposed
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by Nobody: 12:43am On Dec 22, 2015
Okay. Thanks. We've heard you. You've been saying this since forever. Can you now please go to sleep? If not, go to a night vigil. Your life needs more prayers than Islam/Muslims needs your advices....

ari3l:


This is the most insane post I have ever seen.
Go see how many people muslims killed then you would have a rethink of the crap u write. It's now islam is beginning to see for themselves the kind of "god" they worship. And many of you are tired of the bad name it breeds. You may be peaceful, but islam my friend isn't near peace.
I'm very happy islam sees the truth now, and the same truth will take you to heaven. Christians are not your enemies.

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Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by datigbogirl: 1:19am On Dec 22, 2015
looseweight:
The high time people believe that we met religion here on earth and we shall leave it behind when we depart this place, then the world shall know peace..

ds makes me wonder a lot!
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by danidee10(m): 1:24am On Dec 22, 2015
simpleseyi:



Your hatred for Islam is driving you very fast to your grave. Adolf Hitler was not a Muslim, the missionaries that came to expert your forefathers to work as slaves in America were not Muslims.

I sang bastille overjoyed in my heart when I saw ur reply


You are very right....i hate islam, but how is that driving me to my grave ...but i don't hate muslims (people under islam),

before i typed what i typed wink, i have made research to the best of my ability i have gone to muslim hate sites that talk about what is bad in christianity and all, i have gone to christian sites also....i have the holy bible and i also have the quran and all the hadiths too....so i check both for confirmations to people that quote verses and i drew my conclusion

yeah sure hitler wasn't a muslim but was he a christian even if in the beginning he said he was doing it for the lord and he said he would give christians freedom of religion he was just pretending so he could gain power and acceptance of the german population which was mostly christian (Like it or not religion is the best tool to control humans because we need to believe in something....juju, yourself, God, anything, a man can be in church and donate 200k, but most of them would refuse to donate even 5k to repair a nepa pole that fell in their area) after doing this and getting the support he established the 'Reich church' and wanted to be worshipped like a god??, about the christian slave trade, yes supposed (misguided) christians enslaved Africans but who were the abolitionists were they not christians....if christianity encouraged slavery why did the abolitionists grow a conscience and stop slave trade

also, christianity is the act of being christ-like not reading the bible (mind you some of the old testament is the jewish torah) n all or going to venerating the cross or all those......................it's about being like christ trying to copy him in everything he does did christ keep any slave, did he kill anyone?, did he fight any war?

So any Muslim or anti-christian person making any claims of violence in the old testament or any sexual stuff (i read muslim attacks on the bible too) should know that the old testament law dosen't apply to christians, christ came to fufill the law so we don't have to do all those traditions of sending a person out if he is unclean blah blah blah....and remember when those laws were made they were made for the jews....christianity didn't even exist then

(Matt. 5:17), "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill.".....(i no sabi quote bible i google am grin grin grin )

If the law of Moses was not fulfilled by Christ, and thus remains as an obligatory legal system for today, then it is not a partially binding regime; rather, it is totally compelling system.

I'm not here to attack anybody i just want an open debate so please just read and if you have any problem.....or u wan fire me do it like a good human being and don't rant or insult, i know you won't insult cuz you seem very composed (i dey sense personality for nairaland o)...Thanks for reading my long epistle

Are you a muslim?

Edit: some muslims i know who don't take their religion serious or are muslim by heritage

Ozil, Besic, Yaya toure, leon Osman (all football players though)...ozil and yaya toure said they would not be fasting during ramadan cuz of the world cup, ozil has tatooes on his body (islam dosen't allow that, some guys on twitter were like....aaah ozil remove that tatoo it's haram...)

I will reply the other baba 2moro....I'm nt on pc nw...those interested should book space n buy mb

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Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by omostar: 4:14am On Dec 22, 2015
Exactly !
iambabaG:
True ISLAM.. Save d face of ur religion from some hypnotized idiots!!
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by Anticabal: 5:32am On Dec 22, 2015
Nigerian muslims can never ever do this.
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by mysteryman2014: 6:19am On Dec 22, 2015
YerYer:
Proof that not all Muslims are bad people. This story is very powerful. If more Muslims did this and openly spoke against Islamic extremists, the world may be a safer place. Perhaps Donald Trump will have a change of heart when he hears this. Despite all the atrocious crimes and scandals in the news today, it's good to read stories like this.

There's still hope for mankind.

Don't be deceived this end times, hope of d world rest not on man but on God's Kingdom rule under Jesus as king
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by btkenward(m): 7:02am On Dec 22, 2015
embarassed
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by Larrylarex(m): 7:06am On Dec 22, 2015
Al-shabaab in Kenya's North East, Boko Haram in Nigeria's North East. Why must every problem be from the north with coincidentally large muslim population? Arab Spring- North Africa, Northern Kaduna, Jos North, Kenya North. Is this just a coincidence or problem of every North?
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by kechywillz(m): 7:07am On Dec 22, 2015
We know that this kind cant happen in Nigeria
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by Dimmy20(m): 7:08am On Dec 22, 2015
Why are they killing christians,later dey will tell us ISLAM is a religion of peace
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by temitayomie: 7:17am On Dec 22, 2015
coolexy2:
it can hapn anywhere..... such a thing hapned durin d ogunlende crisis in Kaduna....1999/2000..Muslim shied d live of christians nd shelter them.... Islam is a religion of peace quote me any whir....

You are right my brother, even as a christian my father told me about so many challenges that both Muslims and Christians had combined to fight in the past. I think this is responsible for the peaceful nature and integration of both Islam/Christianity in the SW.
Education might be another factor though.



Modified:
Please the crisis you are talking about, is it the one that some Muslims killed some of their brothers in order to protect the Yoruba Christians??
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by temitayomie: 7:41am On Dec 22, 2015
kechywillz:
We know that this kind cant happen in Nigeria

It's happening bro. Don't you have Muslim cousins/relations? Do you think they will just allow some brainwashed extremist to kill you without any restriction from their side?? No!

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Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by MENELIK1: 7:57am On Dec 22, 2015
jaylister:
and naija muslims be like ....................wen did muslim start protecting xtains
Long ago, stop using isolated cases in the north to draw conclusions on the entire Muslims in Nigeria. The Muslims in Yorubaland are so tolerant to the level that they even have Christian wives whereas Yoruba Christians cannot even stand that level of tolerance, you hardly see them with Muslim wives.
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by magzey: 8:15am On Dec 22, 2015
ttemmi:
Nigerian Muslims should learn from this. Especially those from the north.
How many christian are living peacefully with muslims for decades in the North. ?? your type of person causes religious hatred if you dont know North please dont comment on such type of post. this thing happens in Kano - Kaduna Bauchi Maiduguri and Jos .Muslims help christians and vise varsa. undecided undecided
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by Rexyl(m): 8:33am On Dec 22, 2015
The bus was travelling from the capital Nairobi to the town of Mandera. When al-Shabab killed 148 people in an attack on Garissa University College in April, the militants reportedly singled out Christians and shot them, while freeing many Muslims

Muslims should just reform Islam. God can't be involved in a religion being built on blood, and being forced down the troats of people.
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by Rexyl(m): 8:37am On Dec 22, 2015
MENELIK1:
Long ago, stop using isolated cases in the north to draw conclusions on the entire Muslims in Nigeria. The Muslims in Yorubaland are so tolerant to the level that they even have Christian wives whereas Yoruba Christians cannot even stand that level of tolerance, you hardly see them with Muslim wives.


Old testament and new testament are reconciled, but Quran is not in any way reconciled with prophecies of the Bible. Some may think I am wrong but they can't prove me otherwise.
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by Nobody: 8:43am On Dec 22, 2015
danidee10:
This is good news....but one thing I've noticed is that muslims who are not serious with their religion or just muslims by heritage who leave in the west are not violent but those that are serious and read the quran and the hadiths become violent why......Cuz there is a lot of violence in the quran against non believers... Please let any Muslim quote me I'm ready to debate with facts...but of course they'll not quote because allah and mohammed words must not be opposed
I'm a practising Muslim that reads the Quran and Hadiths and we have several others like myself that abhors terrorism and risk our lives to fight against extremists that want to hijack the religion. Visit these websites https://islamagainstextremism.com abukhadeejah.com salafitalk.net
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by Nobody: 8:56am On Dec 22, 2015
AbdulAdam56:
Y stoke embers of discord and division? Can't your brain process information normally?

Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by tiredface: 9:26am On Dec 22, 2015
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT LOVE THEMSELVES. NIGERIAN MUSLIMS ARE DIFFERENT, LOVE IS WITHIN THEMSLVES. A COUNTERY FULL WITH HATE, A COUNTRY DIVIDED ALONG TRIBAL AND RELIGIOUS LINE. IT WOULD'VE BEEN A DIFFERENT STORY HERE
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by kechywillz(m): 9:38am On Dec 22, 2015
temitayomie:


It's happening bro. Don't you have Muslim cousins/relations? Do you think they will just allow some brainwashed extremist to kill you without any restriction from their side?? No!
My Family as a whole a strictly christians and we dont have cousines of far relatives who are muslims. Well,Thats for christians who have muslim relatives. What about a situation where u dont have a relatives or friends who are muslims. undecided
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by banio: 9:50am On Dec 22, 2015
If I were an American, I will vote for Donald Trump
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by kayor62: 11:00am On Dec 22, 2015
DMainMan:
A group of Kenyan Muslims travelling on a bus ambushed by Islamist gunmen protected Christian passengers by refusing to be split into groups, according to eyewitnesses. They told the militants "to kill them together or leave them alone", a local governor told Kenyan media.

At least two people were killed in the attack, near the north-eastern village of El Wak on the Somali border. The Somali based al-Shabab group is the main suspect for the attack. It has not said if it was responsible, but often carries out attacks in Kenya's north-east.

The bus was travelling from the capital Nairobi to the town of Mandera. When al-Shabab killed 148 people in an attack on Garissa University College in April, the militants reportedly singled out Christians and shot them, while freeing many Muslims.

An attack last year in Mandera, in which Christians were killed after being separated from Muslims, caused the departure of more than 2,000 teachers, as well as many health workers who had come from other parts of the country. An employee of the Makkah bus company, who had spoken to the driver involved in the attack, confirmed to the BBC that Muslims had refused to be separated from their fellow Christian passengers.

One of the victims was shot dead after trying to run away from the militants after passengers had been forced off the bus, the same employee told the BBC's Bashkas Jugsodaay in Nairobi. Al-Shabab has been at war with Kenya ever since Kenyan forces entered Somalia in October 2011 in an effort to crush the militants. Kenya's north-eastern region has a large population of ethnic Somalis.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-35151967

cc: Seun, lalasticlala, mukina2

Those are true muslims, Islam never taught extremism, it enjoins protection of human right, it enjoins brotherhood and protection of neighbour even he is a christian or pagan or atheist.
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by Nobody: 11:21am On Dec 22, 2015
YerYer:
Proof that not all Muslims are bad people. This story is very powerful. If more Muslims did this and openly spoke against Islamic extremists, the world may be a safer place. Perhaps Donald Trump will have a change of heart when he hears this. Despite all the atrocious crimes and scandals in the news today, it's good to read stories like this.

There's still hope for mankind.
just like saying,'not all demons are bad'.

Evil nature is about the personality and not the religion. A 'christian' cud decide to form a group with a new doctrine with the aim of killing 'sinners'. Now, in this case many will say , 'all christians are terrorists'.

Religion is just there to carmouflag the true nature of many.
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by HaneefahAde(f): 1:34pm On Dec 22, 2015
shadowgwalker:
just like saying,'not all demons are bad'.

Evil nature is about the personality and not the religion. A 'christian' cud decide to form a group with a new doctrine with the aim of killing 'sinners'. Now, in this case many will say , 'all christians are terrorists'.

Religion is just there to carmouflag the true nature of many.
U totally made sense. Religion has nothing to do wt being inhumane, there are many psychos abt who take delight in killing pple they just need something to justify their madness, e.g. The anti-abortionists are Christians, they justified their actions with the Christian doctrine. One psycho can just conceive an idea, sell it out or brainwash gullible, ignorant, hate-filled pple who in turn propagate their insane ideologies, and sometimes these groups are hijacked by politics and the sponsors come in to strengthen them.
The problem isn't religion, it's some warped minds, animals in human skin.

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Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by danidee10(m): 9:52pm On Dec 22, 2015
Snipes009:
I've noticed that the Christians who are serious with their religion i.e the mass shooters, the soldiers that flew the warplanes dropping nukes on innocent children & women in Iraq while looking for weapons of mass destruction that were never found, the George Bushes, the Zionist etc etc etc owns the bible and read it a lot. Well, maybe because there are so many verses in the bible that are violent, especially since Jesus Christ infamously said he didn't come to bring peace but a sword......and many more.

Now, how about that, dumb negro?


Now to you, you dey feel like say u sabi history na, Your epistle go long oooo....cuz i sense that you're stubborn and will not give sense to reason....no wahala let's go

all the shooters you mentioned did they kill in the name of God or jesus christ and shout (Jesus christ is great or in the name of the father son and the holy spirit......papapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapa(shebi na so ak dey sound))

I honestly don't agree with the hiroshima bombing....i personally believe america wanted to test and see the effects of the bomb in real life not simulation

quote from the man who dropped the bomb, he died at the age of 92

"I knew when I got the assignment it was going to be an emotional thing," Tibbets told The Columbus Dispatch for a story on Aug. 6, 2005, the 60th anniversary of the bomb. "We had feelings, but we had to put them in the background. We knew it was going to kill people right and left. But my one driving interest was to do the best job I could so that we could end the killing as quickly as possible."

Tibbets, then a 30-year-old colonel, never expressed regret over his role. It was, he said, his patriotic duty — the right thing to do.

"I'm not proud that I killed 80,000 people, but I'm proud that I was able to start with nothing, plan it and have it work as perfectly as it did," he said in a 1975 interview.

"You've got to take stock and assess the situation at that time. We were at war. ... You use anything at your disposal. There are no Marquess of Queensberry rules in war.

did he ever say....in the name of God....did you even see God there....he knew it was his patriotic duty, after all when he joined the military, he knew he was going to be asked to kill if the need arises though not on that scale and if he refused (mutiny, na ak be dat o), the world was at war, war not even started by the americans, did the americans fight the war in the name of God....wetin concern muslim for the matter sef, dem bomb japan....japan has since moved on but some people are taking panadol for another person headache...you need to see pics of hiroshima it's even finer than Abuja now grin

You no sabi anything....you know wetin be nuke......back to the matter....i no dey america when they decide to enter iraq....some said it was for oil and so...others say they wanted to liberate iraq, look for nuclear weapons, and capture saddam hussein because he was funding terrorists....but that's not our business, but did america fight the war in the name of God or did soldiers shoot the civilians and say in the name of the father and the son and the holy spirit abi because bush said God told him to invade iraq (anybody can say anything, i can say God told me that i'm the saviour and i should fight all muslims grin, will you believe me)

zionists are jews not christians, (in my words political jews...are they christians)

even if i was an atheist which i'm not...the bible is more believable and spiritually appealing than the quran in the sense that most of the bible verses or things that jesus said have a spiritual meaning not literal meaning when jesus said he will bring a sword to the earth he did not mean that he will bring war on the earth or fighting but his coming does not mean the end of all suffering and perpetual peace for christians or that the christians will triumph over their enemies (that was the kind of messiah the jews were looking for) but his coming will bring disagreement (could be the war and violence today) against his followers...that is how i understood it...below is another interpretation i stole from the net cuz i no sabi bible like that grin

Among the names of Jesus Christ is that of Prince of Peace. Such verses as Isaiah 9:6, Luke 2:14, and John 14:27 make it clear that Jesus came to bring peace, but that peace is between the man and God. Those who reject God and the only way of salvation through Jesus (John 14:6) will find themselves perpetually at war with God. But those who come to Him in repentance will find themselves at peace with God. Because of Christ’s sacrifice, we are restored to a relationship of peace with God (Romans 5:1).

Still, it is inevitable that there will be conflict between good and evil, the Christ and the antichrist, the light and the darkness, the children of God (believers) and the children of the devil (those who refuse Christ). Conflict must arise between the two groups, and this can and does happen within a family in which some are believers and others are not. We should seek to be at peace with all men but should never forget that Jesus warned we will be hated for His sake. Because those who reject Him hate Him, they will hate His followers as well (John 15:18).

If jesus was a violent man, when peter drew out his sword to fight for him, he would have encouraged him but he did not....

another reason why i'll say the bible and christianity in general is more believable than islam and the quran is cuz of the failed scientific predictions....e.g the sun setting in muddy water,

also islam came ahead and denied that the crucifixtion of christ never happened, something that has been proven historically, someone just comes to deny everything that it didn't happen, so the early christians were just pretending that jesus christ died ehn for over 300 years before islam came

The bible is also more arranged than the quran there are several stories that follow one another and one can even read the bible like a story book, i found the quran a bit scattered when i was reading it...(but that's not my business sha...as far as muslims still understand it)

Also comparing the founders of both religions....jesus christ was a peaceful man, he never fought anyone, he never killed anyone, he didn't even have a sword

compare that with muhammed...he waged several wars, married , he never kept to his words and modified some laws to suit him, there was even a case in the hadith when he sent his messengers to kill a woman who insulted him.....let me stop here i don't want anyone to see this as an open attack from me against islam, i'm just posting my findings for other nairalanders to read

TRUE ZIONISTS DON'T READ THE BIBLE THEY ARE JEWISH IT'S THE TORAH ABEG O....NO DISGRACE YOURSELF....even if you check the net you'll see stuff like christian zionists aka christian's supporting zionism the true zionists are not christians sef so you have no argument there, true christians are christ-like and try their best to behave like him in everything they do, the closest group of christians that try to do that in my opinion are the jehovah witnesses, even though other christians make fun of them, they are very humble...when i was little they used to come and preach to me after church every sunday and i really liked them. i might even become one myself one day who knows.


and that and many more.....abeg post them on nairaland make i enter you.....after that i will post my own verses in the quran that are violent and get banned because they would be too much to read grin

Abeg brother open your mind when will humans realize that religion is just another tool to control humans.....why would God be so concerned that you must pray to him five times a day or observe the sabbath and never miss it or give so many laws that have (Humans made-me written all over them)...it's not bad to pay a special reverence to God but i believe that should be an individual decision....i believe the one and only supreme God is everywhere and you can talk to him anytime you must not bend your head or throw sumer sault before he hears you (even though God is not earthly do you observe traditions everytime regarding your parents....or did you ask you parents to feed you when you were a toddler....God knows our individual needs)

I'm not mocking islam here....but i was really alarmed when i saw that if you fart during prayer, you have to do ablution again (in the hadith, al bukhari or so) (seriously what concerns God and farting so if one has running stomach he can't talk to his God again, does that not sound like something a human being made up)

Just be A Good person, do what you want others to do to you....simple and talk to your God when you realize you can't do it all on your own simple

There are so many things to read about and discover in this world than to spend your lifetime fighting and cursing and insulting over religion....where most of it is man made...all this will get you no where. there is one simple rule in life that will surely make this world a better place

Treat others the way you want to be treated or Love your neighbor as you love yourself

a very simple rule that will definitely make this world a better place to live for everyone, instead of fighting over which religion is supreme or why you believe your religion is the best for humanity

and for your last insult......i pray you're not a negro....cuz that would make you the slackiest, dumbest and dirtiest olosho pant ever....Thanks for reading my epistle

i know you'll not hear word sha.....i typed all this for others who would like to read not you so if e pain you too much.......you know what to do with the transformer.....don't forget to use the one that has light in it sha......i know you....you'll forget
Re: Kenyan Muslims Shield And Protect Christians In Mandera Bus Attack by Souljaboi1: 10:14am On Dec 23, 2015
YerYer:
Proof that not all Muslims are bad people. This story is very powerful. If more Muslims did this and openly spoke against Islamic extremists , the world may be a safer place. Perhaps Donald Trump will have a change of heart when he hears this. Despite all the atrocious crimes and scandals in the news today, it's good to read stories like this.

There's still hope for mankind.


And who said Muslims haven't been speaking against it ?

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