BUA and Dangote are not helping Nigeria`s future and its most saddening when everybody fold their hands and pretend like everything is okay.how is it o.k when half baked and unqualified technicians and engineers are employed into this so called conglomerates as EXPATRIATES while our own are being treated as second class citizens.I even hear they now train expatraites in BUA!! Nigeria,we have to wake up! This country will rot if we fold our hands and do nothing about our future.The Brits have done theirs and got away with it.If we allow indians and other fourth grade races to be trainned in a country where qualified graduates hardly get jobs! Nature will not forgive us on the day of treckoning.By the way, will a nigerian ever be trainned in any capapcity in any firm in india?
Dangote and his cousin Abdulsamad should stop insulting us because they want to pile money to high heaven!!

roflmao!!!

lol

i'm tired of crying for that country. now i only laugh. and i'm not going back there. hate me if una like. i don tire

''fourth grade races''
THAT STATEMENT IS RACIST!!!

^^^^^ people like u are part of the wahala

racist or not; is that all ur eyes can see

nawooo

some people


or u are rolfmas

BUA and Dangote are not helping Nigeria`s future and its most saddening when everybody fold their hands and pretend like everything is okay.how is it o.k when half baked and unqualified technicians and engineers are employed into this so called conglomerates as EXPATRIATES while our own are being treated as second class citizens.I even hear they now train expatraites in BUA!! Nigeria,we have to wake up! This country will rot if we fold our hands and do nothing about our future.The Brits have done theirs and got away with it.If we allow indians and other fourth grade races to be trainned in a country where qualified graduates hardly get jobs! Nature will not forgive us on the day of treckoning.By the way, will a nigerian ever be trainned in any capapcity in any firm in india?
Dangote and his cousin Abdulsamad should stop insulting us because they want to pile money to high heaven!!

Juicy: My Reply.

I have travelled and lived in europe africa and North america. Honestly, qualification is of little relevance in some developed countries today.A lot of things have change in the world today. And organisations respond as well. People who have worked in companies like Dangote abroad- will always be accepted for jobs(Even if they are illiterates) before graduate of Nigerian universities. So ur qualification doesnt realy count wen u have not actually practice wat u have read. Wat really count today is somebody who can start the job 2day and immediately start delivering result for the company. And not someone who the coy will first train for months b4 he wil start delivering result to d company. And from research, evidence has it that it is only people who have worked in that capacity that can also work in thesame capacity- and not a dumb as certificated graduate. It is not only in nigeria that graduates dont get jobs today oh. In the states it is thesame thing. In the UK it is thesame thing, In Canada- some Cab Drivers have PHD from Nigerian Universities. Some were lecturers here. My guy-my adviceto u is just to follow them Dbanj, tuface and don jazzy route- and be ceative in ur own way - that is the only way u can sustain ur self oh. CUS D WORLD NA MAD PLACE NOW,

@ikeyman!!!
How can you refer to another human as ''fourth grade race''. If you don't see a problem with this then you're an animal.
We are all brothers black,white,red or yellow. No one is superior,get that into your thick skull.

Is "juicy-emmy" another account created by IKEYMAN? Their postings look eerily familiar.

nawooo!!

i dnt actually agreed with that

now before credit crunch right, on the good normal days average oyibo are trained to do certain jobs well mostly in uk

so u can bla blah blah like a fool, but hey nigeria aint doin justice to their citizen

period!!

i got uncles that work in oil company with lots and klots of experince; they rather offer those job to oyibo truck driver in the name of expariates

watch them puttin nigerians down in their firms

for those that know, we will speak out

but for those that were in the same bangwagon that created credit crunch, not much to say


just like obama had it, the same people that were singin praises for bush are the same people critising his economic package




black man is already sittin at the negative side of the spetrum, u do not need to be called names to visualise the condition u live;lets not let our ancestors down plzzzzzzz

I am surprised how nigerians could have diverse "casual" views on an issue of such national concern.Even if i used "racial words" (apologies to tudor),that shouldn't undermine the seriousness of the issue in question.If i should take ikeyman's response as a yardstick wouldn't it be fair to say indians dont have any bussiness to be trainned in a 100% nigerian firm where nigerians could have benefitted from such venture.

@Poster, I understand your frustration, but is there really much you can do about it at this point? Do we call for the Indians to beb shipped back to their country? If yes, do we have enough ( CAPABLE) Graduates/man power to take over? Would this not be considered promotion of Xenophobia?

The problem remains that the government is not doing what it ought to be. The Nigerian government does not seem to, I repeat, it does not seem to have the interest of the Nigerian people at heart, and until we deal with that issue, the situation might continue to get worse for our graduates and future generations.

juicy-emmy

What is your solution? and just out of curiosity who are the 1st, 2nd and 3rd grade races?

Lets not drag the government into this.The govt has never helped issues concerning the citizenry.However, the fact that nigerian govt collapsed our educational system and made us certificate graduates doesn't mean we shouldn't take our destiny in our own hands.My case is clear and simple--indians cannot be trainned or struggle for trainning slots in a capacity strictly meant for nigerians.my reason?, Afetr trainning them they will hoard knowledge to protect their position and payments in dollars and afterwards scamper back to their country leaving my naija bros to pick up from where they left off (at this stage my naija bros is taking over with a hindsight).I know indians i have worked with them and they always think they are better educated and have every right to work as expatriates in naija whereas they will never offer you jobs in their own country not to talk of trainning you in their own capacity(Think about that).
We need to speak with one voice on this issue and it should start here.Else,if Bua and Dangote gets away with this malady,Nestle might begin to consider it,Mtn and even our nigerian banks might not want to be left out.Then what would we have in our hands?, your guess is as good as mine.

juicy-emmy:

Lets not drag the government into this.The govt has never helped issues concerning the citizenry.However, the fact that nigerian govt collapsed our educational system and made us certificate graduates doesn't mean we shouldn't take our destiny in our own hands.My case is clear and simple--indians cannot be trainned or struggle for trainning slots in a capacity strictly meant for nigerians.my reason?, Afetr trainning them they will hoard knowledge to protect their position and payments in dollars and afterwards scamper back to their country leaving my naija bros to pick up from where they left off (at this stage my naija bros is taking over with a hindsight).I know indians i have worked with them and they always think they are better educated and have every right to work as expatriates in naija whereas they will never offer you jobs in their own country not to talk of trainning you in their own capacity(Think about that).
We need to speak with one voice on this issue and it should start here.Else,if Bua and Dangote gets away with this malady,Nestle might begin to consider it,Mtn and even our nigerian banks might not want to be left out.Then what would we have in our hands?, your guess is as good as mine.

Right there i score 0 over 10 - It is the government that is responsible for providing an enabling environment - thru policies and other infrastructures . Correction will start from the Government no single NGO can turn this mess around.

Very sad though.

juicy-emmy:

Lets not drag the government into this.The govt has never helped issues concerning the citizenry.However, the fact that nigerian govt collapsed our educational system and made us certificate graduates doesn't mean we shouldn't take our destiny in our own hands.

I think @Blacksta already responded here. For the particular problem you are hammering on here, you cannot remove the fact that the government enabled the situation you see today and unless the problem is taken care of at governmental level, there is absolutely nothing the citizenry can do.

juicy-emmy:

My case is clear and simple--indians cannot be trainned or struggle for trainning slots in a capacity strictly meant for nigerians.my reason?, Afetr trainning them they will hoard knowledge to protect their position and payments in dollars and afterwards scamper back to their country leaving my naija bros to pick up from where they left off (at this stage my naija bros is taking over with a hindsight).

Look, if you really understood the problem here, you would understand how you cannot stop a corporation from choosing to hire and train Indians to do jobs that would have normally gone to educated and ready Nigerians. You say “Indians cannot be trained. . .” but they are currently being trained for positions that Nigerians ought to be trained for. What do you intend to do about it? Go in shooting everyone at Dangote and BUA for training Indians? The companies are well within their rights, if you have not figured that out by now.

juicy-emmy:

I know indians i have worked with them and they always think they are better educated and have every right to work as expatriates in naija whereas they will never offer you jobs in their own country not to talk of trainning you in their own capacity(Think about that).
We need to speak with one voice on this issue and it should start here.Else,if Bua and Dangote gets away with this malady,Nestle might begin to consider it,Mtn and even our nigerian banks might not want to be left out.Then what would we have in our hands?, your guess is as good as mine.

Lol . . . Who told you Nestle, MTN, Nigerian banks don’t already do the exact same? By the way, is it that you think you have a right to BUA and Dangote or something? I mean these are private entities and so they do not necessarily need to serve the interest of the Nigerian people, at the end of the day. If you have a problem with the situation, you ought to be standing up with one voice, demanding that your government do something to limit the number of expatriates these companies can hire and train.

@kobojunkie

I dont know if all indigenious Nigerian firms train their expatriates(because expatriates are supposed to be experts and of a truth it should be the other way round).What you are about to read can be verified from any source in BUA
Lets picture BUA's flour mill,
they get their wheat from the United states.Now,because the U.S wants maximun usage of what they are giving to BUA.They say "give us 2 or 3 NIGERIANS that we can teach the modern techniques in flour milling to enable your firm maximise the way they use our wheat. The INDIANS (because they are at the helms of affairs) takes the whole slot.Is that what is obtainanble in North America where you stay? Should i blame the Nigerian Government for that?
Will such scenerio ever happen in india?
Are indians not using the advantage that Nigerian enterprenuers don't really care about patriotism when executing their money ventures?
To end our true story, When the Americans rejected the indian names.The indians argued that they have every right to be trainned in another man's land because they are transferring their own technology to Nigerians(i feel like throwing up at this juncture).
We all know that indians hoard knowledge like crazy and they will only transfer knowledge in hell.This indian malady should be treated as a national disaster because it has become a viral produce of our (un)employment system and will draw our frail nation another century backwards.If you think i am the only one raising dust on this issue i refer you to Alhaji Ibrahim's Danbaba's post in nigeriamasterweb.com and its attendant rejoinders.

I will have no problems with companies hiring expatriates from Benin republic,St Vincent or Guyana or any country for that matter in as much as it help them achieve their corporate objectives. But it becomes a problem when you now have to train a foreigner who is hired as an expert when you have trainable and willing Nigerians in the same company. It's a shame really.

this kolo-thing

it baffles all ur life time spent over sea, u still argue like something else

nawooo

for those of us in UK, dnt know if u have come across a bank full of india

now picture this, in the so called civil-world, the english dnt like that at all

but then for those that knows these india, no need talkin jerk and rolfmas now

nigeria should wake up

asia and arabs dnt like fake ass and smelly wanabe; wakeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee upppppppppppppp!!jesus

juicy-emmy:

@kobojunkie

I dont know if all indigenious Nigerian firms train their expatriates(because expatriates are supposed to be experts and of a truth it should be the other way round).What you are about to read can be verified from any source in BUA
Lets picture BUA's flour mill,
they get their wheat from the United states.Now,because the U.S wants maximun usage of what they are giving to BUA.They say "give us 2 or 3 NIGERIANS that we can teach the modern techniques in flour milling to enable your firm maximise the way they use our wheat. The INDIANS (because they are at the helms of affairs) takes the whole slot.Is that what is obtainanble in North America where you stay? Should i blame the Nigerian Government for that?

@Poster, You say BUA is in a deal with some American firms that supply it with wheat. The particular firms then request that BUA sends it some of its people so it can train them to better handled the product, but BUA rather sends Indians and not Nigerian’s to get this training. Here are some questions you may need to ask yourself
a) Why is BUA sending Indian workers and not Nigerian workers to get this training?
b) If BUA’s Nigerian base is able to send Indians instead of Nigerians, don’t you think they may be doing so because legally there is no law against them doing such?
c) Does BUA, a private entity really serve the Nigerian people or its own interest? Why should BUA suddenly do as you expect it to and not as it would within the law of the land?

juicy-emmy:

Will such scenerio ever happen in india?

I think this question alone should make you think the part government plays in the decision making process of companies operating within their territory.

juicy-emmy:

Are indians not using the advantage that Nigerian enterprenuers don't really care about patriotism when executing their money ventures?

I am not sure I follow you here. What has what Nigerian entrepreneurs do or not do to do with Indians in this case? You seem to be making this an Indian issue, forgetting that we have people from other countries like Germany, China, etc flooding the country and taking seats that would have normally gone to Nigerians. This is all because the current environment enables this.

juicy-emmy:

To end our true story, When the Americans rejected the indian names.The indians argued that they have every right to be trainned in another man's land because they are transferring their own technology to Nigerians(i feel like throwing up at this juncture).

Again, I do not understand why you seem to be making this more an Indian issue than it really ought to be. Regardless of your problems with this particular race, the fact remains that the only reason they seem to be everywhere in Nigeria now is because the current environment enables this.

juicy-emmy:

We all know that indians hoard knowledge like crazy and they will only transfer knowledge in hell.This indian malady should be treated as a national disaster because it has become a viral produce of our (un)employment system and will draw our frail nation another century backwards.If you think i am the only one raising dust on this issue i refer you to Alhaji Ibrahim's Danbaba's post in nigeriamasterweb.com and its attendant rejoinders.

Ugh!

Dis kobokobo guy, are u okay at all? Why u supporting indians, dem send u?

jidobaba:

Dis kobokobo guy, are u okay at all? Why u supporting indians, dem send u?

It is never too late to learn to how READ. ESL classes are out there for those who need them. Please take advantage of them.

KOBOJUNGIE,

Agressive minority should not force their views and tastes on everyone !

Abi no b ur word.

fegflu:

KOBOJUNGIE,

Agressive minority should not force their views and tastes on everyone !

Abi no b ur word.

Well, it is another way of defining a true DEMOCRACY!

kkk,

Why forcing ur views on Jidobaba now,

fegflu:

kkk,

Why forcing ur views on Jidobaba now,

Forcing my views on Jidobaba by SUGGESTING he learns how to read so he does not go around making silly statements as the one he made above Are you sure you know what it means to FORCE ONES VIEW ON ANOTHER?

Pls dont start on me oh,
I am a very creative writer, and i will run circle round u with words, k
I am only concern abt d guy u were referin 2. ok

fegflu:

Pls dont start on me oh,
I am a very creative writer, and i will run circle round u with words, k
I am only concern abt d guy u were referin 2. ok

Call yourself what you want, all I did was to ask you a simple question. You claim to be concerned about 'd guy', maybe you ought to be spending more time helping him learn how to read English language so he would not go around making false allegations as the one above.

Maybe u shld spend more time learning how not to write thins that are offensive to other members in this forum.

fegflu:

Maybe u shld spend more time learning how not to write thins that are offensive to other members in this forum.

It is a forum. If you are faint of heart, then don't bother showing up here. People who post on here ought to be open to having their ideas and views criticized. You cannot always believe that you have it all RIGHT, unless you believe you are god of the world, which is never true for any of us.

So, again, if you do not understand what is posted, ASK QUESTIONS. If the issue is that you do not have a good enough grasp of the English to at least understand what has been posted, again, ASK QUESTIONS. However, if you feel you have it all figured out and it is your place to make false allegations, then expect to be corrected in a harsh way, if necessary.

its quite clear kobojunkie or is it 'junkie has lost touch with the real situation in naija.Bros,my only advice for you -"come back home and help flush the indians"
instead of picking on "reasonable majority"

juicy-emmy:

its quite clear kobojunkie or is it 'junkie has lost touch with the real situation in naija.Bros,my only advice for you -"come back home and help flush the indians"
instead of picking on "reasonable majority"

Roflmao!!! Now ATTACKING me is the way to go? I do you grow up soon and maybe then you will understand why until you start viewing problems as they really are, you are likely never to have a clear impact on your environment in the way you want to.

If all you want to focus on is the Indians, thinking they are the problem, then I do hope you do not develop high BP if they continue to flood the nation, along with others, in the years to come.