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Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by Kruzilano(m): 12:31pm On Mar 23, 2016

To get an "A" in poly u gat get 80/100, while uni u get 70/100 then u gat a period of 2yrs to make a cgpa of at least 3.5... In ur year 1 nd year 2, u are being taught elementary courses in uni buh in poly from ur very first day, u in for a big mess

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by OlujobaSamuel: 12:39pm On Mar 23, 2016

Generals03:

On the 5 point scale, First class is 4.5 out of 5
From simple ratio, for the polytchnic 4 point scale to be on the same level as the university 5 point scale, first class has to be 3.6 out of 4 and not 3.5
Likewise on the 7 point scale first class has to be 6.3 out of 7.
Anything less than this means the bar is below the university scale.
This is simply what OP is explaining. And ofcourse this is assuming all the points scale have same score i.e 70 as their grade A equivalent.

considering the caveat in your statement, then we can conclude that the op is wrong because that assumption is not true.
so can we also conclude that since some Polytechnics have a higher score for their distinction grade, then they are better than University?
Pls, things don't work that way, our education system is crap, we have schools outside Nigeria that operates 4.0, 5.0, 10.0 etc, their pass grade students are sometimes better than our best just because they are privileged to find a good academic environment.
It's only in Nigeria that we measure academic certifications of schools by failure rate, any tertiary institution with lesser population of exemplary students is always the best because it shows how tough the school is.
In a school in Costa Rica, University of Earth precisely, if you fail any course twice, you are going home, you have to get a gp of 7.5/10 in any course, if you fail to, you will have to retake in few days and you will be given your exam script to know your weakness, after the 2nd attempt and still unable to cope, you have to go home.
Here in our nation, we compete on irrelevancy.

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by Nobody: 12:42pm On Mar 23, 2016

I finished with upper credit last year in Mechanical Engineering from Osun State College of Technology, Esa oke, During first second semesters of ND1, they used 80 to calculate our Grade compared to 75 or 70 some uni are using..

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by ify84(m): 12:44pm On Mar 23, 2016

Ezegozie:
It is harder to make firstclass in University than to make Distinction in Politechnics.
Here is my Mathematical Prove.

For University to make first class, you must get atleast 4.5 GPA out of possible 5.
That is 4.5/5

To make distinction in Politechnic, you must get atleast 3.5 GPA out of possible 4.
That is 3.5/4.

HENCE
4-------------3.5 (For Politechnics)

5/4 * 3.5 = 4.375 (Equivalent For University)

CONCLUSION
3.5/4 GPA (politechnic)
is equivalent
To 4.375/5 GPA (University)

But if you get 4.375 in University which is equivalent of 3.5 in politechnic, You will not make first class because what is needed from you is atleast 4.5GPA.

So with this mathematical prove above, I hereby conclude that its harder to make first class in university than to make distinction in Politechnics.

Hope you understand my Prove?

Nonsense. Studying in Polytechnic is more difficult than university

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Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by hawk05(m): 12:44pm On Mar 23, 2016

Ezegozie:
It is harder to make firstclass in University than to make Distinction in Politechnics.
Here is my Mathematical Prove.

For University to make first class, you must get atleast 4.5 GPA out of possible 5.
That is 4.5/5

To make distinction in Politechnic, you must get atleast 3.5 GPA out of possible 4.
That is 3.5/4.

HENCE
4-------------3.5 (For Politechnics)

5/4 * 3.5 = 4.375 (Equivalent For University)

CONCLUSION
3.5/4 GPA (politechnic)
is equivalent
To 4.375/5 GPA (University)

But if you get 4.375 in University which is equivalent of 3.5 in politechnic, You will not make first class because what is needed from you is atleast 4.5GPA.

So with this mathematical prove above, I hereby conclude that its harder to make first class in university than to make distinction in Politechnics.

Hope you understand my Prove?

divide 4.375 by 2 since poly is two years compared to Uni which is 4yrs which is equal to 2.18 thats Uni first class...

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by Nobody: 12:56pm On Mar 23, 2016

I'm very delighted going through ur post, but i av observation to tells u, you are wrong, in polythenic, for example Osun State college of Technology Practical is 40mark and included assignments and even you note books, and 60Marks for Exams, truly i finished with a good grade(upper credit) but not easy tasks for me... just help me to calculate marks you need to got in Exam and test to be able to makes A when they are using 80 to calculate our grade compare to odas.. Sorry dere maybe a typo error i don't cross check my write up..

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by kazyhm(m): 12:59pm On Mar 23, 2016

Pointless nonsense

you no make sense

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Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by MartinsIfeco(m): 1:00pm On Mar 23, 2016

Ezegozie:
It is harder to make firstclass in University than to make Distinction in Politechnics.
Here is my Mathematical Prove.

For University to make first class, you must get atleast 4.5 GPA out of possible 5.
That is 4.5/5

To make distinction in Politechnic, you must get atleast 3.5 GPA out of possible 4.
That is 3.5/4.

HENCE
4-------------3.5 (For Politechnics)

5/4 * 3.5 = 4.375 (Equivalent For University)

CONCLUSION
3.5/4 GPA (politechnic)
is equivalent
To 4.375/5 GPA (University)

But if you get 4.375 in University which is equivalent of 3.5 in politechnic, You will not make first class because what is needed from you is atleast 4.5GPA.

So with this mathematical prove above, I hereby conclude that its harder to make first class in university than to make distinction in Politechnics.

Hope you understand my Prove?

Seriously

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by omartins(m): 1:08pm On Mar 23, 2016

To make distinction in polytechnic is having 75% and above. My question is, to make first class in University is having what?

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by viktoooh: 1:10pm On Mar 23, 2016

Forget the range figures. I think poly is hard to score distinction than first class. 2.00 in poly is pass while in uni's you have made credit already with that.

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by kayusbrown(m): 1:14pm On Mar 23, 2016

Generals03:

On the 5 point scale, First class is 4.5 out of 5

From simple ratio, for the polytchnic 4 point scale to be on the same level as the university 5 point scale, first class has to be 3.6 out of 4 and not 3.5

Likewise on the 7 point scale first class has to be 6.3 out of 7.
Anything less than this means the bar is below the university scale.

This is simply what OP is explaining. And of course this is assuming all the points scale have same score i.e 70 as their grade A equivalent.

The bold part is what the OP omitted in his supposed 'proof'.
Of course we know that 4.5 is 90% of 5 and 3.5 is 87.5% of 4. Looking at this on the surface, one will conclude easily that the bar is higher in the 5point scale. Concluding so is mathematically correct but logically and statistically wrong. If you evaluate the results of a Distinction Graduate from a polytechnic using a 4-point scale with the 5-point scale of universities, the polytechnic graduate will still emerge 'First Class Graduate' as long as score 70, for example, is equivalent to grade "A" and equivalent to the maximum point obtainable on both scales.

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Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by Nobody: 1:19pm On Mar 23, 2016

Ezegozie:
It is harder to make firstclass in University than to make Distinction in Politechnics.
Here is my Mathematical Prove.

For University to make first class, you must get atleast 4.5 GPA out of possible 5.
That is 4.5/5

To make distinction in Politechnic, you must get atleast 3.5 GPA out of possible 4.
That is 3.5/4.

HENCE
4-------------3.5 (For Politechnics)

5/4 * 3.5 = 4.375 (Equivalent For University)

CONCLUSION
3.5/4 GPA (politechnic)
is equivalent
To 4.375/5 GPA (University)

But if you get 4.375 in University which is equivalent of 3.5 in politechnic, You will not make first class because what is needed from you is atleast 4.5GPA.

So with this mathematical prove above, I hereby conclude that its harder to make first class in university than to make distinction in Politechnics.

Hope you understand my Prove?

It is obvious you didn't make a first class from the way you write. I give you an assignment to look around you and check if you are better than most HND holders. At least they can spell polytechnic! It is also obvious you don't have a masters yet, so you can't even stand up to an HND with a masters. In conclusion, if you didn't have a first class, why are you boasting with one. grin

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by KissCODE(m): 1:22pm On Mar 23, 2016

Ezegozie:
It is harder to make firstclass in University than to make Distinction in Politechnics.
Here is my Mathematical Prove.

For University to make first class, you must get atleast 4.5 GPA out of possible 5.
That is 4.5/5

To make distinction in Politechnic, you must get atleast 3.5 GPA out of possible 4.
That is 3.5/4.

HENCE
4-------------3.5 (For Politechnics)

5/4 * 3.5 = 4.375 (Equivalent For University)

CONCLUSION
3.5/4 GPA (politechnic)
is equivalent
To 4.375/5 GPA (University)

But if you get 4.375 in University which is equivalent of 3.5 in politechnic, You will not make first class because what is needed from you is atleast 4.5GPA.

So with this mathematical prove above, I hereby conclude that its harder to make first class in university than to make distinction in Politechnics.

Hope you understand my Prove?

All this nonsense u people always discuss is so anoying.
Both go to the same NYSC.
Nonsense.
Polytechnic is “supposed“ to be a technical school. A place of less theory and more practical issues. It is all this nonsense that has made our polytechnics lost their purpose.
Nonsense posts that makes front page.

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by striker07(m): 1:22pm On Mar 23, 2016

OP you are wrong, to have a maximum point which is 4 point in polytechnic you need 75 while you only need 70 to have full point in university.

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by firstee47(f): 1:28pm On Mar 23, 2016

Ezegozie:
It is harder to make firstclass in University than to make Distinction in Politechnics.
Here is my Mathematical Prove.

For University to make first class, you must get atleast 4.5 GPA out of possible 5.
That is 4.5/5

To make distinction in Politechnic, you must get atleast 3.5 GPA out of possible 4.
That is 3.5/4.

HENCE
4-------------3.5 (For Politechnics)

5/4 * 3.5 = 4.375 (Equivalent For University)

CONCLUSION
3.5/4 GPA (politechnic)
is equivalent
To 4.375/5 GPA (University)

But if you get 4.375 in University which is equivalent of 3.5 in politechnic, You will not make first class because what is needed from you is atleast 4.5GPA.

So with this mathematical prove above, I hereby conclude that its harder to make first class in university than to make distinction in Politechnics.

Hope you understand my Prove?

joblessness!!!! Mtchwwww

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by IBILEOMO(m): 1:33pm On Mar 23, 2016

To the OP I think you are dull and mathematically poor, let me help your situation, I am not to argue or trying to compare HND AND BSC.

But before you can COMPARE, You should ensure that basis of measure are the same. For example 90% is 4 points in some Polytechnic while it is 5 points or more in university. As a result your both sides are not equal here, so your basis is totally wrong.

I know you are still in school, and if you dont have work to do let me give you an assignment. Start your analysis from marks to points to grade, please do not forget to take course unit into Account, which implies that you will do the same dept for UNI & POLY to get a meaningful outcome.

My worry about the assignment is that you are too dull to carry it out. OLODO.

THANK YOU.

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by Grandest(m): 1:36pm On Mar 23, 2016

MadCow1:
Its because of people like this OP that Polytechnic Graduates think they are equal to University Graduates..

E no go better for the person wey build UNIBEN..

Here you go again! Goodness knows what UniBen has got to do with this!

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by doskie(m): 1:39pm On Mar 23, 2016

Basalt:

Olodo, your are not good in mathematics otherwise you would have seen that the prove conforms with the law of mathematics.

Equivalent of 4.5 out of 5 = 3.6 out of 4
Equivalent of 3.5 out of 4 = 4.375 out of 5
so the OP is 100% correct

that's not even all. i attended both. they are not mates at alllll.....
poly students don't read book like uni students. only a dundi will argue that. a 100l uniben engineering student is better than an nd graduate anywhere.
a 200l student is superior to an hnd graduate. that is why even with hnd, direct entry takes you back to 200l. and with hnd you must do pgd before you can get a masters.

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by Ezegozie(m): 1:43pm On Mar 23, 2016

emekamigo:

You don't know English,you don't know Mathematics:Polytechnic not Politechnic not to talk of the s and what's the difference bettween 3.5/4 and 4.5/5?

between not bettween
ItIBORIBO like you.
Asking me the difference between
3.5 / 4 and 4.5/ 5

go back and learn maths

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by erekoshe: 1:45pm On Mar 23, 2016

doskie:
that's not even all. i attended both. they are not mates at alllll.....
poly students don't read book like uni students. only a dundi will argue that. a 100l uniben engineering student is better than an nd graduate anywhere.
a 200l student is superior to an hnd graduate. that is why even with hnd, direct entry takes you back to 200l. and with hnd you must do pgd before you can get a masters.

When u finally graduate, you'll realize the difference. When you swim in the streets, you will

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Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by maestroz: 1:49pm On Mar 23, 2016

Ezegozie:
It is harder to make firstclass in University than to make Distinction in Politechnics.
Here is my Mathematical Prove.

For University to make first class, you must get atleast 4.5 GPA out of possible 5.
That is 4.5/5

To make distinction in Politechnic, you must get atleast 3.5 GPA out of possible 4.
That is 3.5/4.

HENCE
4-------------3.5 (For Politechnics)

5/4 * 3.5 = 4.375 (Equivalent For University)

CONCLUSION
3.5/4 GPA (politechnic)
is equivalent
To 4.375/5 GPA (University)

But if you get 4.375 in University which is equivalent of 3.5 in politechnic, You will not make first class because what is needed from you is atleast 4.5GPA.

So with this mathematical prove above, I hereby conclude that its harder to make first class in university than to make distinction in Politechnics.

Hope you understand my Prove?

your hypothesis has confused me the more. are you comparing university and polytechnic or 'politechnic'. I checked the latter in my dictionary with no proof of existence. by the way, I can only understand your proof not your 'prove'

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Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by Nobody: 1:54pm On Mar 23, 2016

Abeg, dat mathematician should calculate it with UI cgpa format.(maximmum cgpa:7.0, 1st class starts with 6.0)

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by Nobody: 1:56pm On Mar 23, 2016

SLIDEwaxie:
this shows that university is overrated. People shld av explained the maths na.

Whether it is 5.0 or 3.0, the mark associated with it is the koko.

For example, if 89-100 is 3.0 in an institution while the same is for 5.0 in others, does it mean that anyone with a distinction of 3.0 in the first institution makes a lower credit by the standard of the other?

Lol...

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by TeeYMartinz(m): 2:00pm On Mar 23, 2016

dat nonsense, are u in d system?'''' in polytechnics most of dere course unit is 2unit d highest is 3 which is very few compared to university where there is 4,5 unit courses......so ur hypothesis is wrong...polytechnic student are very sound technologically,practically....so d 4pointCGPA in polytechnic is equivant to d 5pointCGPA in university

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by callmeSwit(m): 2:09pm On Mar 23, 2016

you are so very funny .....thier marking schemes arnt the same , their mode of learning arnt the same!!!!!

whats you point?!!!!!!

university graduates are built on theories
polytechnic graduates are built on practicals.
And i am sure are are frm a uni and that y u cant correctly spell a POLYTECHNIC..

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Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by Nobody: 2:10pm On Mar 23, 2016

It's a simple direct proportion problem in mathematics: one quantity varies directly with another. I think he is correct; although the operatives and criteria may vary with certain conditions markers. I would say it depends on the rate of equivalence between the two quantities and the constant in the relationship. If centeris paribus, then that proof enjoys mathematical support.

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by Dynamite02: 2:16pm On Mar 23, 2016

gbens2000:
Pointless nonsense,wat is ur aim.inferiority complex or wat.y would this kind of post make fp,I really wonder wat these mods try to do sometimes.

Its really disappointing.
Somebody will just sit down out of joblessness / over feeding and start comparing with the aim of dragging the other down.
Anyway, maturity nor be by force!

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Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by smartoliver(m): 2:17pm On Mar 23, 2016

MadCow1:
Its because of people like this OP that Polytechnic Graduates think they are equal to University Graduates..

E no go better for the person wey build UNIBEN..

your name really describe ur personality...tell me wetin UNIBEN do u now?abi u nor be uniben student?

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by Ephemmm: 2:20pm On Mar 23, 2016

doskie:
that's not even all. i attended both. they are not mates at alllll.....
poly students don't read book like uni students. only a dundi will argue that. a 100l uniben engineering student is better than an nd graduate anywhere.
a 200l student is superior to an hnd graduate. that is why even with hnd, direct entry takes you back to 200l. and with hnd you must do pgd before you can get a masters.

Which poly did you attend please?

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by ekoson95(m): 2:23pm On Mar 23, 2016

It's obvious you're a third class student.
Ordinary Polytechnic, you cannot spell...and ur title is reading 'PROVE', rather than PROOF.

FYI, I have a CGPA of 3.85, convert it and you will get more than 4.8 on. 5 point scale. So if I can make distinction here, I can still make First Class there.

Lemme tell you something, in my school you will need 75% score to get A as opposed to 70% for Universities.

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by jflexy(m): 2:25pm On Mar 23, 2016

If you fink polytechnic education is easy try Polynekede

You are here blabbing about stupid GCPA when ur mates are facing their studies...mind u, I obtained 2.83 during my ND at federal polytechnic nekede but I'm now a student of uopeople...Bia OP or wetin, carry clock o angry

Re: PROVE to show that Making First class In UNI Is Harder Than Distinction In POLY by Basalt(m): 2:25pm On Mar 23, 2016

IBILEOMO:
To the OP I think you are dull and mathematically poor, let me help your situation, I am not to argue or trying to compare HND AND BSC.

But before you can COMPARE, You should ensure that basis of measure are the same. For example 90% is 4 points in some Polytechnic while it is 5 points or more in university. As a result your both sides are not equal here, so your basis is totally wrong.

I know you are still in school, and if you dont have work to do let me give you an assignment. Start your analysis from marks to points to grade, please do not forget to take course unit into Account, which implies that you will do the same dept for UNI & POLY to get a meaningful outcome.

My worry about the assignment is that you are too dull to carry it out. OLODO.

THANK YOU.

I think you are the one who is dull and blackhead here, if not I dont know how you should be talking of 90% being 4points in some Polytechnic and 5points in some universities while we are talking of equivalence of FCGPA here, does it show that your brain is functioning at all?
Wetin concern 90% concern this talk?
And secondly, its only an empty vessel and Olodo that starts insult when good point which can be mathematical proved is being mentioned.
Go fix yourself dude

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