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Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by Nobody: 11:19pm On Mar 03, 2016
Some pastors eh , God will supervise their burning in hell. They are worse than politicians (some sha o)
Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by Nobody: 11:29pm On Mar 03, 2016
People are just serving the Jesus they don't know. Even the prayers he taught are not the wahala type. Christianity is just lost. Don't kill your self with prayers waiting for some answers that will never come, help your fellow man, never judge anyone good, bad, ugly, be generous, avoid suspecting your friends as witches and wizards (don't listen to that pastor) those people (your friends) may be of future help to you. Be like Jesus! Love and not hate. Be good to your fellow man and see blessings. Forget church project and help people (Muslims inclusive). That is what he wants. You wouldn't need prayers (long prayers like some hypocrites with terrible characters would do) to get blessed. Don't make long list of prayers like unbelievers! Obey him

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Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by asalimpo(m): 12:02am On Mar 04, 2016
geoworldedu:
Jesus Christ claimed that he is the son of God and he will protect his worshippers. He promised to baptise his worshippers with the Holy Ghost. He promised his worshippers to heal them and also to preserve their lives, in case they eat deadly things. Furthermore, he promised to come back soon.

Now his true worshippers remain poor, jobless and tormented by witchcraft and Jesus Christ remained in the AC inside his heaven enjoying, forgetting all his promises. Many of his true worshippers began to run from pillar to post in search of deliverance from the torment of a mere witch or wizard. Most of them ended up dying without being delivered. When many of them fell sick, they prayed to Jesus until they died, instead of going to the doctor for simple treatment and get cured.

All the ones who claimed to have been filled with Jesus' Christ's Holy spirit are not different from any other person in any sense. We see them committing fornication and adultery too.

John the beloved said it 2000 years ago that "the antichrists are here..." Till today, the antichrists have not started performing their duties. Why?
Jesus said in Matthew 24 that the sun will fall to the earth and the end of the world will come. Then he said, 'This generation shall not pass away until all these things shall be fulfilled." Now help me ask Jesus if those things has been fulfilled in his generation as he claimed. Till today nothing had happened.

Now when a Christian keeps praying to Jesus since childhood to adulthood just over one ailment to be removed, yet nothing happened, and such person slipped into atheism, pls tell me who is to blame--Jesus Christ or the person?

Personally I believe Jesus is dead, never to rise again. Please let us all do good on earth and forget about any Jesus that will come back to the earth.
You are trying to show that Jesus ,as an entity, is not real or at best is a fraud. But your arguments are wrong on many levels.

"Jesus claimed he would protect his followers" - Where was this claim made? Show us from the bible else your accusation is baseless.
If he did claim so but failed to honour his word,then he will of course be a liar.
But if so, then there may terms to the agreement .
What are the terms of agreement on Jesus' promised protection?
Show these.

"He promised to baptise with the Holy Ghost" - Did he?
Show us. What are the qualifications for this promised baptism or is it unconditional?
2) has he failed to keep this promise? Because, they are folks still getting baptised.

"Now his true worshippers remain poor jobless and tormented by witches"
- the claim here is ALL his 'true' worshippers are affected.
Is this true? Dyu know all Jesus true worshippers?
Do you knows that are genuine from those putting on a show?
Note: If all Jesus true worshippers are as you say, it will take only one counter example to knock down your accusation as false.

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Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by Krystalzkris(f): 8:03pm On Mar 04, 2016
fearlesschicken:


Not referring to you but the op and his mentality....
owk. I thought u were referring to me,I've already prepared for boxing..cheesygrin
Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by fearlesschicken: 10:22pm On Mar 04, 2016
Krystalzkris:
owk. I thought u were referring to me,I've already prepared for boxing..cheesygrin

lol! Haba! Boxing ke? shocked. Funny! grin
Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by Shome36(m): 10:50pm On Mar 04, 2016
What about this? undecidedWhat about this?

Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by stonemasonn: 1:11am On Mar 05, 2016
sonmvayina:


there is nothing divine about jesus..They were mandated by Emperor Constaintine to comee up with a religion for the empire..they were told to choose between christainity and mithrasim..after argueing they went with christainity..and voted on the doctrines
what was Christianity like before Emperor Constaintine?
Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by LIBERTY1980(m): 10:33am On Mar 05, 2016
The fool have said in his heart, there is no God; na so bible talk,
But op, which religion do you belong to?
Your post sound like someone who has been brain wash by satan and his human agent, you need divne counseling and deliverance, I can see you are frustrated, by the ugly situation of this world,
Let me tell you what to do, after doing it, you will see the glory of God, confess Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, ask Him to come into your life, with a sincere heart, ask Him to manifest Himself to you, ask Him to show you His glory,
Acknowledge Him, give Him attention and He will give you direction,
The reason why you are sounding like this, i think you are facing the bad said of this world.
Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by analice107: 11:04am On Mar 05, 2016
God!!!!!!!. Thus Ops made me laughed so hard. Really? Abeg Ooo. I hope people realize that they will one day stand to give account for what they say and do?

Someone advised you to read just Matthew to John. When you are done and still feel the way you are feeling right now, then I give up, but till then, you know nothing ("JOHN SNOW" in the words of Ingrit.)

I faced the same dilemma until I did exactly what the guy advised you to do. I sat down with Jesus,and he, by himself showed me that am looking at things wrongly that's why my perceptions, thoughts and expectations are wrong. You don't ask the wrong questions and expect the right answers.

Stupid people want to be god of God. tell God what to do, when they want God to do it. Why they want God to do it.
Stupid kids who were born last night opens their mouths and talk rubbish against God, because their parents failed to teach them to be responsible and take responsibilities.
Open their pit toilet mouth and talk nonsense against my God, things they can't say to their little sluts they commit fornication with. Just because they have not seen God strike Ifeness down for blasphemy, they conclude there's no consequences for actions.
Some people have sold their souls already, follow them to your eternal damnation
Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by Princewell2012(m): 1:06pm On Mar 05, 2016
Niflheim:
Christianity is a religion of false hope and fake promises!!! Call on the name of jesus from now till tomorrow, you will receive zero replies!!!

Hmmmm, but he do answer me always whenever I called on him.


I just have to reply you before it escapped my mind.
Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by Weah96: 2:31pm On Mar 05, 2016
Princewell2012:


Hmmmm, but he do answer me always whenever I called on him.


I just have to reply you before it escapped my mind.


So why don't you ask him to answer other people? I'm awaiting a response from him, since he's now in contact with you. Feel free to post the answer here.
Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by Princewell2012(m): 4:05pm On Mar 05, 2016
Weah96:



So why don't you ask him to answer other people? I'm awaiting a response from him, since he's now in contact with you. Feel free to post the answer here.

Why don't you speak for yourself, and leave others for now.

Salvation is personal, jer. 29; 13. If seek him you shall find him, when you search for him with all your health.

Have you truly serach for him

Again Jeremiah 33 vs 3, says call upon me and I will answer you, and I will show you great and mighty. Things which you don't know.

Have you truly called upon him

Jesus said I came for the sick, illiterate, poor, needy, the hopeless the unsaved and the unlearn. Sorry if you does not fall among the categories, pls forget about him.
Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by Weah96: 4:47pm On Mar 05, 2016
Princewell2012:


Why don't you speak for yourself, and leave others for now.

Salvation is personal, jer. 29; 13. If seek him you shall find him, when you search for him with all your health.

Have you truly serach for him

Again Jeremiah 33 vs 3, says call upon me and I will answer you, and I will show you great and mighty. Things which you don't know.

Have you truly called upon him

Jesus said I came for the sick, illiterate, poor, needy, the hopeless the unsaved and the unlearn. Sorry if you does not fall among the categories, pls forget about him.

Tell me that your belief is your own and to mind my own business.

Don't ask me whether I truly called his name, unless na ur biological fada carry that name Jesus.
Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by ifenes(m): 10:36pm On Mar 05, 2016
Princewell2012:


Hmmmm, but he do answer me always whenever I called on him.


I just have to reply you before it escapped my mind.

Ask him when the war in Seria will end. Kindly post a picture message/video chat of his reply here
Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by ifenes(m): 10:38pm On Mar 05, 2016
analice107:
God!!!!!!!. Thus Ops made me laughed so hard. Really? Abeg Ooo. I hope people realize that they will one day stand to give account for what they say and do?

Someone advised you to read just Matthew to John. When you are done and still feel the way you are feeling right now, then I give up, but till then, you know nothing ("JOHN SNOW" in the words of Ingrit.)

I faced the same dilemma until I did exactly what the guy advised you to do. I sat down with Jesus,and he, by himself showed me that am looking at things wrongly that's why my perceptions, thoughts and expectations are wrong. You don't ask the wrong questions and expect the right answers.

Stupid people want to be god of God. tell God what to do, when they want God to do it. Why they want God to do it.
Stupid kids who were born last night opens their mouths and talk rubbish against God, because their parents failed to teach them to be responsible and take responsibilities.
Open their pit toilet mouth and talk nonsense against my God, things they can't say to their little sluts they commit fornication with. Just because they have not seen God strike Ifeness down for blasphemy, they conclude there's no consequences for actions.
Some people have sold their souls already, follow them to your eternal damnation

Why don't you let Yahweh/Enlil,the Anunnaki defend himself?
Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by geoworldedu: 5:17am On Mar 13, 2016
Omo, this thread don enter anoda page sha. I have done as the guy who said I should read Matthew to John said and here are what I found out.

1. Jesus became more of a myth to me than real after I read it. He said, "No man has seen God at any time, but Moses and Jacob said they have seen God face to face o.

bible quotations: Genesis 32:30
And Jacob called the name of the place
Peniel: “For I have seen God face to face,
and my life is preserved.”
Exodus 33:11
So the Lord spoke to Moses face to face, as
a man speaks to his friend. And he would
return to the camp, but his servant Joshua
the son of Nun, a young man, did not depart
from the tabernacle.
Then came Jesus to say this:
John 1:18
No one has seen God at any time. The only
begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the
Father, He has declared Him.
Then brother John the Jesus follow follow
also says
1 John 4:12
No one has seen God at any time. If we
love one another, God abides in us, and His
love has been perfected in us.


OMO, WHO FIT EXPLAIN THIS TO ME O?

2. Jesus said that 'He is not of Beelzebub because if he is using the power of Beelzebub to cast out demon, then the kingdom of satan would be divided against itself. But same Jesus said that 'he would tell many people I don't know you, you that work iniquity because they are using his name to cast out demons when actually it is the power of the devil(beelzebub) they were using. So ogbeni Jesus, do you mean that the kingdom will no more be divided against itself?

bible verses: Matthew 12:24-26 King James Version (KJV)
24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said,
This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by
Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said
unto them, Every kingdom divided against
itself is brought to desolation; and every city
or house divided against itself shall not
stand:
26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided
against himself; how shall then his kingdom
stand?


Now see where Jesus go Bleep up!

22 On that day many will say to me,
‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name,
and cast out demons in your name, and do
many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And
then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you;
depart from me, you workers of iniquity.


We all know that satan is the originator of iniquity according to the bible. So if those people were actually using the name of Jesus to cover up while using the power of satan to cast out demon, the kingdom of satan would be divided but Jesus has once said it as if it was not possible. Jesus na Lai Mohammed o.

3. Jesus wanted people to do good but he allowed the spirit of demons to enter into the whole swine owned and reared by someone and those swine perished in the water. Chai! Jesus you wicked gan o.

4. Jesus dey claim virgin birth using the book of Isaiah. But the prophecy there was called a sign to let king Ahaz know that two kings who are coming to fight him would be defeated as soon as the sign happened. So does a sign happen after the lifetime of the person you want to show the sign to or in his lifetime? Because what I saw is that Jesus came about 2,000 years after the king who wanted to see a sign has died. You need to read that passage to understand what I meant.

5. Jesus went to heaven to build mansions for his disciples and then claimed he would return to take them up in rapture. Since Jesus left, he has not returned. What is taking him so long? I thought Jesus was with his father when they were making heaven and earth in six days, resting on the seventh day. But why is it taking Jesus so long that he did not return until all his disciples were murdered? And till today he did not come.

6. I also saw that Jeconiah was one of the ancestor of Jesus, but in Jeremiah's book, he has cursed Jeconiah that he would be childless forever.

Shockingly from the thread of a guy called Otemanuduno on nairaland, I discovered more and more errors in the bible. I can give you the link to read more of the endless errors of the babble as Otemanuduno was fishing them out.



ifenes, analice107, princewell2012, Weah96, Liberty1980
Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by CHARLOE(m): 7:16am On Mar 13, 2016
interesting! as a xtian, i've bin battling wit som of these questions myself wit little or no sucess. plz informed xtians shld contribute, no nid insulting d op. seun, lalasticlala front page plz
Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by sonmvayina(m): 2:46pm On Mar 17, 2016
stonemasonn:
what was Christianity like before Emperor Constaintine?

it was a cult...of inana and his bekoved dumuzi..it is a mockery of what Marduck went through.
Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by Princewell2012(m): 3:48pm On Mar 17, 2016
geoworldedu:
Omo, this thread don enter anoda page sha. I have done as the guy who said I should read Matthew to John said and here are what I found out.

1. Jesus became more of a myth to me than real after I read it. He said, "No man has seen God at any time, but Moses and Jacob said they have seen God face to face o.

bible quotations: Genesis 32:30
And Jacob called the name of the place
Peniel: “For I have seen God face to face,
and my life is preserved.”
Exodus 33:11
So the Lord spoke to Moses face to face, as
a man speaks to his friend. And he would
return to the camp, but his servant Joshua
the son of Nun, a young man, did not depart
from the tabernacle.
Then came Jesus to say this:
John 1:18
No one has seen God at any time. The only
begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the
Father, He has declared Him.
Then brother John the Jesus follow follow
also says
1 John 4:12
No one has seen God at any time. If we
love one another, God abides in us, and His
love has been perfected in us.


OMO, WHO FIT EXPLAIN THIS TO ME O?

2. Jesus said that 'He is not of Beelzebub because if he is using the power of Beelzebub to cast out demon, then the kingdom of satan would be divided against itself. But same Jesus said that 'he would tell many people I don't know you, you that work iniquity because they are using his name to cast out demons when actually it is the power of the devil(beelzebub) they were using. So ogbeni Jesus, do you mean that the kingdom will no more be divided against itself?

bible verses: Matthew 12:24-26 King James Version (KJV)
24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said,
This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by
Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said
unto them, Every kingdom divided against
itself is brought to desolation; and every city
or house divided against itself shall not
stand:
26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided
against himself; how shall then his kingdom
stand?


Now see where Jesus go Bleep up!

22 On that day many will say to me,
‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name,
and cast out demons in your name, and do
many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And
then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you;
depart from me, you workers of iniquity.


We all know that satan is the originator of iniquity according to the bible. So if those people were actually using the name of Jesus to cover up while using the power of satan to cast out demon, the kingdom of satan would be divided but Jesus has once said it as if it was not possible. Jesus na Lai Mohammed o.

3. Jesus wanted people to do good but he allowed the spirit of demons to enter into the whole swine owned and reared by someone and those swine perished in the water. Chai! Jesus you wicked gan o.

4. Jesus dey claim virgin birth using the book of Isaiah. But the prophecy there was called a sign to let king Ahaz know that two kings who are coming to fight him would be defeated as soon as the sign happened. So does a sign happen after the lifetime of the person you want to show the sign to or in his lifetime? Because what I saw is that Jesus came about 2,000 years after the king who wanted to see a sign has died. You need to read that passage to understand what I meant.

5. Jesus went to heaven to build mansions for his disciples and then claimed he would return to take them up in rapture. Since Jesus left, he has not returned. What is taking him so long? I thought Jesus was with his father when they were making heaven and earth in six days, resting on the seventh day. But why is it taking Jesus so long that he did not return until all his disciples were murdered? And till today he did not come.

6. I also saw that Jeconiah was one of the ancestor of Jesus, but in Jeremiah's book, he has cursed Jeconiah that he would be childless forever.

Shockingly from the thread of a guy called Otemanuduno on nairaland, I discovered more and more errors in the bible. I can give you the link to read more of the endless errors of the babble as Otemanuduno was fishing them out.



ifenes, analice107, princewell2012, Weah96, Liberty1980

Mmmmm, i would have love to comments but why did you group me among atheist Am not an atheist am a Christian. And i cannot deny my faith.

I think you just interprets those area you want the ways it pleases you.

Hmmm may be you must be referring to Jesus of oyingbo.

I rest my case.
Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by afrideo(m): 11:01pm On Mar 17, 2016
Jesus is Lord over all, saviour to mankind
Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by lanre316: 4:22am On Mar 18, 2016
sonmvayina:


there is nothing divine about jesus..They were mandated by Emperor Constaintine to comee up with a religion for the empire..they were told to choose between christainity and mithrasim..after argueing they went with christainity..and voted on the doctrines

Really? Do you have a historical record that proves this
Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by geoworldedu: 9:34am On Mar 19, 2016
afrideo:
Jesus is Lord over all, saviour to mankind
The kind hot slap we I dey prepare for Jesus Crisis on the judgement day still dey do press up grin
Re: Jesus Is The Reason Why People Become Atheists by sonmvayina(m): 11:59pm On Nov 02, 2016
stonemasonn:
what was Christianity like before Emperor Constaintine?

it was just a cult of Inana and her beloved Dimuzi..she is the who.re of babylon..she was "christained" Mary the mother of Jesus in the new testament...she is Lucifer, she rose her self to the pantheon..she is a sworn enemy of Marduk( the God of the old testament)...

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