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Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by NobleAngell(f): 10:13am On Feb 24, 2016 |
espn:Awww sorry dear. D beauty is undeniable, d brain definitely is loaded. But U are definitly pained abt something no one knws abt. Go sort yrslf out. |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by omolola15(m): 10:13am On Feb 24, 2016 |
Viktor1983: Actually they won't have any other option than to agree. The oil wahala is also causing their economy serious problem. And UN just lifted the sanction on Iran recently. If Iran start selling their oil, there will be further slump in oil prices. So other countries have to work together and find a way to talk to Iran so as to stabilize the price. Because Iran has been storing oil for years. So they have it in excess. And that might make them sell at any price. Saudi needs to put aside their differences and find a way to work with Iran. Or else we'll all suffer for it. |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by Gordieshegz(m): 10:14am On Feb 24, 2016 |
dokgen: Broh,I can understand your concerns but believe me you saudi arabia is no country to take slightly in the international markets when oil products and prices are involved... Our dear country needs international assistance and privileges so homeland cooperation will be very much vital to achieve these.. Presently, we seem to have used up the possible domestic measures we could adopt in rejuvenating our dying oil-dependent economy...I am sure you know a barrel increase in saudi arabia daily oil production will pose a challenge on nigerian economy, right?to avoid/reduce the possible effects of this, you have to come to terms with the great producing countries... On your comment on Malaysia, it is saddening every time I remember that my native Ondo State and her sister Edo State gave birth to what Malaysia nurtured to what she is today, how saddening!!! |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by omolola15(m): 10:14am On Feb 24, 2016 |
drss: I don't understand the way some people use their brains |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by dokgen(m): 10:20am On Feb 24, 2016 |
Whihc omolola15:Which unfortunately will never happen. SO make Iran lose..coz of Nigeria, say wetin? them be una relation? |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by dokgen(m): 10:23am On Feb 24, 2016 |
Gordieshegz:IRAN, RUSSIA , USA, SAUDI . ARE The major key players. BUt IRAN is the major problem, followed by USA. Nigeria can never convince any of this two guys. Hence the need to shun them and lets face our business by focusin on agriculture!! |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by Myde4naija(m): 10:32am On Feb 24, 2016 |
kilokeys: You won't say anything better than this, you comment clearly shows the level of your reasoning..... Bla blah blahhhh I'm expecting you to turn your to toilet and split more shit |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by mrmetoo1: 10:56am On Feb 24, 2016 |
dokgen: Did you bother to even read stay I wrote at all?? Point out where I said we shouldn't diversify. All I said is diversification is a long process which this government said they're committed to. You talking about diversification to battle this present currency crisis is what's funny to me. The TSA funds is to be used to fund the budget which means we'll borrow less than we intended to. These people need to clean up the mess in their budget and pass it quickly because it's then we'll really be able to know if they're serious about diversification or not. Then when I said "we" I said that because once I mention Jonathan you see all these characters coming out of nowhere to attack you. I also said "we" because perhaps we need to take some of the blame for not keeping them accountable. A lot of Nigerians were smiling and happy even though they were eating the crumbs falling off all these people's tables. A young guy that wanted to go invest in agriculture all of a sudden secures an inflated contract to supply chairs and tables, he dumps the agric idea because in his head he has hammered. This is why it's a "we" problem. |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by jpphilips(m): 11:00am On Feb 24, 2016 |
Emekamex: why dont you just follow the news to educate yourself, nobody is considering a deliberate production cut, that will be counter productive, the low prices can force you to cut production, most expensive fields in the US are shut down leading to an 80,000bbls off their production. Iran is not a major player at the moment so it is inconsequential what iran does, Iran has the capacity to take his number 7 spot in the world but those fields have not been operational for years, oil fields are no boreholes, it will take time before Iran asserts any influence. Saudi, Russia and venezuela have agreed to a "production freeze" that is a huge deal coming from 2,3 and 12 spots, now the Nigerian oil minister has shifted the OPEC timetable from June to March which will see an early implementation of that deal. All Nigeria needs do is to convince Saudi not to go solo with the deal rather make it an OPEC agenda in the coming meeting, that will bring on board 13 countries at various spots, with russia on the side of OPEC, OPEC influence will grow beyond its current 40%, should more countries agree to the deal, that will see that number grow significantly. The news of such alliance alone will set wall street on fire and oil price will be better for it, I hope you are aware that since Russia agreed to a production freeze with Saudi alone, oil has seen a 7% increase in price, extrapolate what will happen if the 13 OPEC nations plus any other non OPEC they can convince? It is a lobby thing, try to get as much countries as you can on board, so when Mr president jets around, it is not without purpose. "Production Freeze" refers to the last production date without a surplus, that date will be adopted by member states as statutory OPEC quota, member countries are expected to maintain that production for a time frame or just halt production for a while, the former is a more realistic strategy in our current reality. "Production cut" refers to downgrading production over time, that strategy worked in the past but it has become obsolete because a non OPEC member is at the number 1 spot, once you do that, kiss your market share goodbye and no producer want that to happen. secondly, OPEC's control is just 40% of the world's output hence their influence on the global scale has waned. You mentioned Agricultural investment, why will Buhari do that? is it an area of competitive advantage for Nigeria? most of our Agro exports are purchased by Nigerians abroad, that is no market penetration that is why Agro export has remained low for decades. Nigeria is under EU sanctions on Agro export yet you advise Buhari to invest there, are you for real? I can see some desperation for this man to fail. Can your Agricultural produce penetrate the American market? where your seedlings are gonna face competition with genetically modified seedlings? do you have that capacity? your competitors have genetically modified their seedlings such that they have all weather supply, how are you going to maintain a market share when you lack such capacity? do you know how long it took others in research and investment before they got there? why will you invest where you are on a serious disadvantage? In my opinion, our focus on Agriculture should be for self sufficiency, if we have excess rice, it may discourage rice imports which will relieve FOREX pressure in the long run not the stup!d export ideas people are branding about. A full boneless chicken in the US is around $5.98, if you tone it down to our full bone chicken with natural weight, it should retail around $1.25 ie 248.75naira (official rate), this amount is not the true price of chicken in the US but that is what people will pay, somewhere along the line in the chicken production chain, the farmer has enjoyed some subsidies to be able to sell at that price. How can you ask Buhari to make investments that will compete with the US and Uk government subsidy? The drugs alone to raise chicken in Africa has exceeded the 248naira you wish to gain, what about other factors of production and freight? I agree with mining but ask yourself, how many of our solid minerals are competitive in the international market, what is the quality of Nigeria's copper, Iron ore, cobalt and Tin compared to the standard that rakes in good bucks? have you bothered to find that out? where you can point to a few solid minerals that is competitive out there, where is the money to invest? we saw a 6.08T budget that has over 1t debt servicing and a 2.2T deficit, where is the money I ask? Have you priced a crusher lately in the international market? Should Buhari increase VAT to 20% to raise that money, will you be happy? I tell you what, majority of buhari's critics are extremely lame, they are failures in their various private endeavour that is precisely why they criticize absent sense. Look at Prof Pat Utomi's s!lly criticism of buhari's no devaluation policy, instead of telling Nigerians that he has Nigerian bonds which a devaluation will skyrocket his interest rate, he was talking trash on TV, I believe the current $ price will make him look like a goat of economics after predicting over 500naira against the $ while claiming that Buhari has secretly devalued the naira. Enough of all the lame criticisms absent substance, we voted for a 4 year deal, after that we will assess his progress report, that is what sane people do, Nigerians must not prove to the world that they are too dumb for democracy. . A man must be allowed to take a test before you pronounce fail or pass, Mr president has not even arrived the test venue yet Nigerians are pre empting his test score, where is the wisdom in that? 3 Likes |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by Gordieshegz(m): 11:05am On Feb 24, 2016 |
dokgen: Still at that,international polity might affect some policies...sure Saudi Arabia wont be the only country to liase with..Iran may follow suite.. On leaving them alone and facing agriculture, I wont subscribe to that...we need every resource and sector to make a better nigeria otherwise we run into the same malaise crude oil got us into... |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by anonimi: 11:21am On Feb 24, 2016 |
Perhaps he might just fulfil ONE of his many yet to be done promises. www.nairaland.com/attachments/2186280_buhari2blaugh1_jpegc35d9ea4e30142f9302718e17f58f220 |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by omolola15(m): 11:30am On Feb 24, 2016 |
dokgen: I'm not saying Iran should lose cos of Nigeria. I just answered the question he asked. He asked why saudi will make a decision that will favor Iran. So my comment was based upon saudi and Iran. I ain't talking about naija. |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by jpphilips(m): 11:36am On Feb 24, 2016 |
plaetton: First and foremost you are misinformed, I will take it easy with you because at least you did some reading before you adopted a position unlike the other useless critics of Buhari. Saudi Arabia told the world that they can survive below $20/bbl I equally believed them because they claim to have amassed a whooping $780b in reserves when the going was good. In the middle east such propaganda is always necessary to keep adversaries at bay. The war in Yemen is feeding on that same reserve abi? what we found out later about Saudi was shocking. Are you aware that the same Saudi that claimed he can survive below $20/bbl is running a $98b budget deficit according to the Guardian, does it add up? read here http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/28/saudi-arabia-spending-cuts-oil-prices-budget-deficit If Nigeria who didn't save is having a 2.2T budget deficit yet a Saudi that amassed over $700b is having a $98b deficit something doesn't add up. Are you aware that Saudi has cut down most of their subsidies for this 2016 fiscal year? read here http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Saudi-Arabia-Cuts-Subsidies-As-Budget-Deficit-Soars.html Are you aware that Saudi hiked fuel prices to be able to raise money from her citizens? http://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-arabia-announces-2016-budget-1451312691 In the face of these obvious realities, are you still in doubt that the Kingdom is not healthy economically? perhaps that was why they ran to Russia to secure the best OPEC - Non OPEC deal, one of its kind in 15yrs, apparently that deal must have compelled Buhari to go to Saudi to catch into that deal. http://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/16/russia-saudi-arabia-output-freeze-helps-oil-price-higher-in-asia.html You must understand that ALL oil producers minus Norway are hurt just like Nigeria, any favorable deal will be in everyone's interest ,forget Saudi's gra gra, that is how they survive in the middle east, if Saudi gives the impression they are broke, his enemies in Tehran and Saan'a will be more emboldened. Remember when Saddam was accused of having a WMD, he actually accepted he had it just to look tough for Iran, that is the only way to survive in the middle east. For your info, Kachikwu is on the Saudi entourage. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by jpphilips(m): 11:40am On Feb 24, 2016 |
revolt: You are seriously misinformed |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by gbagyiza: 12:28pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
NobleAngell: I knw HW u feel, but we dnt hv an option for nw. We just hv to explore many ways in seeking for d solution to our problem.who knows which one will work. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by dokgen(m): 2:11pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
omolola15: See why OUR PRESIDENTS JOURNEY IS A WASTE OF RESCOURCES. Crude oil drops a further 3%, battered by no-production-cut blues – MarketWatch.com FEBRUARY 24, 2016 BY ABOKIFX Investors continued to unload oil on Wednesday, with losses building after Saudi Arabia dismissed the possibility of a production cut, effectively extending the time it will take for the market to be balanced again. On the New York Mercantile Exchange, light, sweet crude futures for delivery in April CLJ6, -3.11% traded at $30.88 a barrel, down 3%, or $1 in the Globex electronic session. April Brent crude LCOJ6, -2.07% on London’s ICE Futures exchange fell $0.74, or 2.2%, to $32.53 a barrel. Saudi Arabia oil minister Ali al-Naimi on Tuesday said “there is no sense in wasting our time seeking production cuts,” reiterating that a production freeze would gradually allow inventories to fall. Last week, oil prices rallied after Saudi Arabia, and other oil majors Russia, Qatar and Venezuela, agreed to cap their future productions at the January levels in a bid to support prices. However, hopes that the global glut would ebb quickly dimmed, and prices weakened after Iran rebuffed the pact. Tehran has repeatedly said it will not consider a supply reduction until its production has climbed back to its pre-sanction level, which was around 4 million barrels a day. Iran is currently producing just under three million barrels a day. “This is more like a joke that they tell us they would freeze their production above 10 million barrels a day and that we should also in turn freeze our production,” said Iranian oil minister Bijan Zangeneh on Tuesday, quoted by Iranian media. The comment represented Iran’s most forceful public repudiation of the freeze proposal. “This is more like a joke that they tell us they would freeze their production above 10 million barrels a day and that we should also in turn freeze our production.” Iranian oil minister Bijan Zangeneh Without Iran’s commitment to freeze production, the fate of the plan remains uncertain. The parties which had agreed said they would go along with the plan only if other producers were also on board. Analysts say given that Saudi Arabia and Russia both produced at high levels in January, while Iran has just barely been given the green light to export more broadly, “it is reasonable for Iran to refuse the freeze as their productions have been hamstrung by the sanctions for so long,” said Vyanne Lai, an energy analyst at National Australia Bank. On Wednesday, Iraq’s governor told OPEC its members should act promptly to rebalance crude oil markets or the damage could be deeper and take time to be fixed. “OPEC has [been] recently focusing on market share rather than defending the price and this gave the organization the big role in reshaping the structure of the global oil and gas industry,” Faleh al-Amri said at an energy conference in Abu Dhabi. Oil prices have been battered by oversupply and slower demand growth for nearly two years. Waning profitability has made it uneconomical for many high-cost producers, especially those in North America, to keep pumping. As a result, U.S. production has slowly declined and many market observers say a reduction in U.S. shale supply would the factor leading to a revival of prices in coming months. “However, the key question is if other traditional sources wait out the pain and whether lower U.S. shale production will be enough to lift prices amid expectations of increased supply from the likes of Iran and Iraq,” said ANZ Research in a note. Traders will be taking cues from the weekly U.S. crude stockpiles data scheduled for release Wednesday. The American Petroleum Institute, an industry group, said late Tuesday that its own data for that week showed a 7.1-million-barrel rise in crude supplies, a 569,000-barrel increase in gasoline stocks and a 267,000-barrel decrease in distillate inventories, according to market participants. — Benoit Faucon and Nicole Friedman contributed to this article. |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by dokgen(m): 2:13pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
gbagyiza:Thats not how leadership works, bro. Youve got to have a plan and a strategy in place. PMB doesnt have one. And is not ready to admit it, thats whats hurting me, and lots of Nigerians are being fooled by the whole anticorruption shitty campaign |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by espn(m): 2:37pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
NobleAngell:lol.. someone must be deceiving u..i cant imagine what u look like early in d morning..even with d make up..not impressed! |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by stevecantrell: 3:12pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
NobleAngell: Wail on...wail on... |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by muller101(m): 3:41pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
Oil is now useless. According to some people. |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by barcaboi(m): 4:52pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
SegunAdewole:give us an alternative. ..or is it the pdp headed by the major brain behind Boko? |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by Nobody: 5:31pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
I hope something is actually done. |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by NobleAngell(f): 10:08pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
espn:Hehehe. Now u wanna imagine what I look like in d morning cus u gat nothing on me. Funny! Oh and by d way, I sincerely hope that's not you on your profile picture. |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by dafuturis(m): 1:39am On Feb 25, 2016 |
jpphilips: beautiful..... i've learnt so much from you on this platform. thanks a lot. |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by espn(m): 7:45am On Feb 25, 2016 |
NobleAngell:No..my spirit! |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by Validated: 8:21am On Feb 25, 2016 |
African mentality! We believe that the Arabs, the whites and other coloured people love us more than their people! Please, think again. Black man has a looooong way to go. What would Saudi gain in reducing production? How would that stop Iran from pumping their excess stock? Buhari should go home and diversify the economy and stop juncketing up and down. By the way, did anyone notice that while the Saudi king and Buhari were discussing terrorism, they deliberately avoided the real issue. The terrorists, Boko Haram, ISIS, Al queda, etc are all Muslims. They practice what their malams/imams teach them. Solution would be from the Muslim themselves and their malams who should teach love instead of hate and killing that they preach to their children. Islam should accept that the religion is the source if terror and work to stop same through preaching peace and love. |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by NobleAngell(f): 11:00am On Feb 25, 2016 |
espn:And u were talking about not being impressed? Lmao. |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by espn(m): 12:17pm On Feb 25, 2016 |
NobleAngell:u don't v a point my dear..u know d truth..stop playing mind games with yourself..stop bin sarcastic. I love d way u consoling urself to get back at me..try harder! |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by NobleAngell(f): 12:50pm On Feb 25, 2016 |
espn:Sarcastic? U kidding me. Dat pic is horrible. |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by ISpiksDaTroof: 12:50pm On Feb 25, 2016 |
mbhs139: Your country is filled up with people with very dark hearts. And they mainly come from certain parts. Evil is in the blood of certain Nigerians. They don't know theyre doing anything wrong and they often wonder why people have issues with their decisions. Its is just a part of their culture. |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by espn(m): 2:01pm On Feb 25, 2016 |
NobleAngell:arguing with u will be a complete waste of time! Visit jobberman.. seems u don't v anyfin doing! |
Re: Buhari & Saudi King Abdul Meet,Nigeria,Saudi Arabia Commit To Raising Oil Price by NobleAngell(f): 2:16pm On Feb 25, 2016 |
espn:Next time you will think twice before making a nasty comment esp when you are way worse. No need to visit jobberman whoever he is, he didn't quote me, u did. |
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