Scholar8200:


Who is Acadip?

Empiree:
Sorry, you did not answer my question. You slideline

Empiree:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5TZ1ax95PU

Help Yourself
https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Acadip&fr=yset_chr_syc_oracle&type=orcl_default

cckris:

The EXCELLENCY of Christianity is that there's no THREAT to anyone who wants to remain a Christian, or quit. Try that in Islam & see whether one person can remain.

Scholar8200:
Actually, I am not too surprised. Most so called christians today would not stand the haranguing of communists. Why? They hardly read their Bibles and are therefore easy prey and will fall for anything!

Scholar8200:
You are getting me wrong. The Levites could only marry virgins who are levites from the tribe of Levi meaning there was no way they could have used the captives from another nation, carnally.

that's your assumption. Read that passage with respect to the punctuation marks.

And Moses gave the tribute, which was the Lord’s heave offering, unto Eleazar the priest, [size=13pt]as the Lord commanded Moses[/size].
Numbers 31:41

in the OT, all such presents to the Lord (called holy things) belonged to the priests simple. That is why at those times when Israel forsook God and made no offerings, the Levites etc had to leave the Temple to fend for themselves.

quote the reference that expressedly says that. And back it up with other references on the same issue so that you wont be guilty of twisting a single verse!

we are talking of POW here. [u]Israel too suffered the same fate when they merited it. Read Deut 21:10-13 for marriage to POWs.

Proove this using clear historical sources!

And show us where Isrealites used kid girls for sex slavery especially where the law permitted them.
You appear obsessed with sex slavery yet you cannot show ONE case in the Bible! [s]All are your biased assumptions sans proof.[/s]

Compare the highlighted with what Deuteronomy 21:10-13 says and see the depth of prejudice you have!

Does this suggest sex slavery or child molestation?

Demmzy15:


I'm not getting you wrong, you claimed the virgins were meant for the Levites and I asked, do you mean there's no woman from the whole of Israel that's a virgin? Are you telling no virgin woman in Israel was willing to marry the Levites except for prisoners of wars?!



It's not my assumption, I explained with the verse below in which Moses and Eleazar presented golds to the Lord directly. You're the one who's assuming by saying there's no virgin in the whole of Israel until the Lord asked the Israelites to wipe out towns just to present virgins for the Levites.



What did the Lord do with them? As the meat, they must have smoked them up in which perceived the suya aroma, but what of the virgins?!



The Levites got their own share of virgins and booties, so the 32 can't possibly be for them. Here's a commentary of Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible:

out of which were given as an heave offering to the Lord six hundred and seventy five sheep, seventy two beeves or oxen, sixty one asses, and thirty two women: the half divided unto the children of Israel consisted of 337,500 sheep, 36,000 beeves or oxen, 30,500 asses, and 16,000 women, out of which one in fifty, both of women and cattle, were given to the Levites; what that amounted to is not expressed, but may be easily reckoned.
http://biblehub.com/commentaries/gill/numbers/31.htm

So 1/50 of the 16,000 virgins in which was given to the Levites was 320. The Lord got his own 32 and there's no evidence whatever that the Lord's share was given to the Levites. That's your assumption!



If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her[u] and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives." Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NIV

This is just right?



This was an illegal invasion in which the biblical God sanctified. @underlined, are you kidding me? So because Israel witnessed this then that's a legitimate right for them to do others the same? Have you forgotten "don't do to others what you don't like" and what must have been the sin of this people that they deserved this cruel inhumane treatment from Israel.



The bible is there for you to read, the crimes against humanity committed therein.



I'll be opening a thread on this same Midianites and prebuscent sex slaves! View the link I gave you also!



After destroying their lives, here's child molestation:

Webster’s Bible Translation Numbers 31:17-18
Now therefore kill every male among the little ones (taph), and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the female children (taph), that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive [u]for yourselves.

This is damn too masterful my mentor

Rilwayne001:


This is damn too masterful my mentor

Jazaka Allaah kayran my blessed brother, I wouldn't have done it without your thread

Demmzy15:
Jazaka Allaah kayran my blessed brother, I wouldn't have done it without your thread

Rilwayne001:


That thread? Uhmmm! That was when I had time for them though.. I wish I could rewind those times.. Lol..

facheux:
The Codex Sinaiticus and Vaticanus do not record the resurrection.

facheux:


Very few Christians know that Gentile historians NEVER mentioned the resurrection of Jesus pbuh.

facheux:


The Jewish philosopher Philo (50 CE) absolutely makes no reference to Jesus pbuh crucifixion. The Christians are embarrassed that Philo lived during Jesus pbuh lifetime and never mentioned his resurrection.

facheux:


After the departure of Jesus pbuh, his teachings spread to North Africa and Egypt, but he was not popular or widely known.
The following writers do not mention Jesus pbuh resurrection:

Philo-Judaeus

Martial

Arrian

Appian

Theon of Smyrna

Lucanus

Aulus Gellius

Seneca

Plutarch

Apollonius

Epictetus

Silius Italicus

Ptolemy

facheux:
If we look into this matter more closely, we will see that Jesus pbuh and the disciples were waiting for the Roman soldiers. The disciples had sold their clothes and bought swords and were waiting for the Roman soldiers. This is a war like situation with a lot of emotions and tension around and scientifically one doesn't sleep in such a tense situation.


Jesus pbuh orders the disciples to sell their clothes and buy swords,

". . . Lord, behold, here are two SWORDS." And he said unto them, "It is enough".
Luke 22:38


Jesus pbuh places the disciples. If not for his protection, then for what reason?
Matthew 26

36 Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder.

37 And he took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and very heavy.



He doesn’t want to die.

38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.

39 And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.



Disciples slept.

40 And he cometh unto the disciples, and found them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?



43 And he came and found them asleep again: for their eyes were heavy.

44 And he left them, and went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words.





One of them, supposedly Peter, chopped off the ear of the enemy.



Luke 22

49 When Jesus' followers saw what was going to happen, they said, "Lord, should we strike with our swords?"

50 And one of them struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his right ear.

51 But Jesus answered, "No more of this!" And he touched the man's ear and healed him.

No more indicates that they were originally prepared for a fight but no more, as ordered by Jesus.

Immediately after this, all the disciples fled (Matthew 26:56) and Peter was arrested with Jesus.

It seems that the writers, either had no knowledge of what had happened or they making this story up on purpose.



Questions:

1. Who is writing this story?


2. Everyone was asleep. How is he writing this story when everyone was asleep?


3. How does a sleeping man know what Jesus pbuh was doing and what he was saying in his prayer?


4. What was Jesus pbuh praying for if not asking for help to not get crucified?



5. Jesus pbuh had set the other disciples outside and far from him. Only Peter, John and James were the closest to him and they too were asleep.

How does the disciple far away, and also asleep, know what Jesus pbuh was doing?



6. They knew that the Romans were coming to get Jesus.

Why did they continue to sleep?

This is a warlike situation and in such situations, one doesn't sleep like the way the disciples did.

How come all of them slept at once and again and again, even after Jesus’ pbuh waking them up. What is wrong with them?

7. Jesus pbuh had told the disciples to take swords, they had only two swords with them. They were all waiting for the Roman soldiers to come. Two disciples farthest outside, some inside and John, Peter and James closest to him. If this is not positioning for war, then what is this?


8. Was the swordsman, who cut off the ear, Peter?



9. Either Peter, John or James struck the Roman soldier and cut off his ear. This is brave of him. Then how come the disciples fled later on and Peter even refused to recognize Jesus and kept swearing and cursing?

At one time such extreme bravery and at another, such extreme cowardice. Peter obviously didn’t go with the adrenaline as he asked Jesus before attacking.



10. Why is the man on the cross shouting "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?" The Christians believe that that man gave his life deliberately but these words sound as if that man doesn't want to die on the cross.

Every year in Philippines, some fanatic Christians willingly hang themselves to the cross, nailing their hands and feet. They don’t shout like cowards. Why does the man on the cross (in the Bible) shout and cry like a baby?

facheux:
If we look into this matter more closely, we will see that Jesus pbuh and the disciples were waiting for the Roman soldiers.
The disciples had sold their clothes and bought swords and were waiting for the Roman soldiers. This is a war like situation with a lot of emotions and tension around and scientifically one doesn't sleep in such a tense situation.

Jesus pbuh orders the disciples to sell their clothes and buy swords,

". . . Lord, behold, here are two SWORDS." And he said unto them, "It is enough".
Luke 22:38


Jesus pbuh places the disciples. If not for his protection, then for what reason?
Matthew 26

36 Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder.

37 And he took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and very heavy.



He doesn’t want to die.

38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.

39 And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

Disciples slept.

40 And he cometh unto the disciples, and found them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?



43 And he came and found them asleep again: for their eyes were heavy.

44 And he left them, and went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words.





One of them, supposedly Peter, chopped off the ear of the enemy.



Luke 22

49 When Jesus' followers saw what was going to happen, they said, "Lord, should we strike with our swords?"

50 And one of them struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his right ear.

51 But Jesus answered, "No more of this!" And he touched the man's ear and healed him.

No more indicates that they were originally prepared for a fight but no more, as ordered by Jesus.

Immediately after this, all the disciples fled (Matthew 26:56) and Peter was arrested with Jesus.

It seems that the writers, either had no knowledge of what had happened or they making this story up on purpose.

Questions:

1. Who is writing this story?

2. Everyone was asleep. How is he writing this story when everyone was asleep?

3. How does a sleeping man know what Jesus pbuh was doing and what he was saying in his prayer?

4. What was Jesus pbuh praying for if not asking for help to not get crucified?

5. Jesus pbuh had set the other disciples outside and far from him. Only Peter, John and James were the closest to him and they too were asleep.

How does the disciple far away, and also asleep, know what Jesus pbuh was doing?

6. They knew that the Romans were coming to get Jesus.

Why did they continue to sleep?

How come all of them slept at once and again and again, even after Jesus’ pbuh waking them up. What is wrong with them?

7. Jesus pbuh had told the disciples to take swords, they had only two swords with them. They were all waiting for the Roman soldiers to come. Two disciples farthest outside, some inside and John, Peter and James closest to him. If this is not positioning for war, then what is this?

8. Was the swordsman, who cut off the ear, Peter?

9. Either Peter, John or James struck the Roman soldier and cut off his ear. This is brave of him. Then how come the disciples fled later on and Peter even refused to recognize Jesus and kept swearing and cursing?

10. Why is the man on the cross shouting "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?" The Christians believe that that man gave his life deliberately but these words sound as if that man doesn't want to die on the cross.

Every year in Philippines, some fanatic Christians willingly hang themselves to the cross, nailing their hands and feet. They don’t shout like cowards. Why does the man on the cross (in the Bible) shout and cry like a baby?

facheux:
The Jews of Palestine expected the arrival of a Prophet who’d overthrow the Roman government and destroy the occupation, not to be crucified by them! Jesus made it clear that the purpose of his mission was to preach the Law and the Gospel (only) to the Children of Israel:

Jesus replied, "Let us go somewhere else—to the nearby villages—so I can preach there also. That is why I have come." (Mark 1:38)

But he said, "I must preach the good news of the kingdom of God to the other towns also, because that is why I was sent." (Luke 4:43)

For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. (Matthew 18:11, KJV only)

For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost. (Luke 19:10)

But go ye and learn what [that] meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. (Matthew 9:13)

“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.” (Matthew 5:17-18)

Jesus was unwilling to die:

Jesus escaped crucifixion because he did not want to die, that was not the purpose of his mission, and GOD saved him. According to the Gospels, Jesus was quite unwilling to be crucified, or even stoned:

After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him. (John 7:1)

Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. (John 8:59)

Jesus therefore walked no more openly among the Jews; but went thence unto a country near to the wilderness, into a city called Ephraim, and there continued with his disciples. (John 11:54)

And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou [wilt].
(Matthew 26:39, Luke 22:42)

Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; (Hebrews 5:7)

The Jews and Romans never crucified Jesus, or else the mission would have failed, the Jews expected the Anointed One to be victorious the way David (the anointed) prevailed over his enemies; he was also betrayed by Ahithophel. Jesus could not have been the Messiah if he were executed. The Bible explicitly teaches that false prophets must die:

And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn [you] away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee. (Deuteronomy 13:5)

facheux:
Xtians are just straight up pagan eh. How euro centric of them

jimmynauty:


pukes... but moha copied the ritual of circling the kabba from the pagans and and replaced the gods with the one god allahh

BeansAndBread:
The ritual of circumbulation was done by Abraham and his son Ishmael but when they died the people after them abandoned Allaah and started worshipping idols. This is similar to the case of Moses when he left the children of Israel, they engaged in idol worship!

cckris:

[b]Arabs have no records of their history.

It's from the Bible Arabs learnt any relationship with Abraham.

And Israelites, the authentic custodians of the testimony of Abraham have no such fables that Abraham visited Arabia.

Arabia isn't part of the promised land, has no value except that Americans are generously paying for the oil, which the Arabs don't even know how to drill. Everyone knows that if the oil was in America, & the brutal merciless Arabs possessed the technology, the arab jack asses won't pay a dime, but take it by force.
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