plaetton:


Lol.

Is that a threat ?

lol. Oga cheerleader, the least you could do is try to cover up and not be so obvious at disappearing when your quarterback suffers an injury and appearing to cheer when he seems to be back up again

Joshthefirst:
Unfortunately your question is ill thought out again. How can you apply the reasoning of time to eternity and start yelling about when your understanding fails? Eternity, is not infinite time. In eternity, time itself is absent.

Meaning that in God's eye past, present, and future are irrelevant. He is happening in all.

Existing in eternity, nothing is done to anything to yield definition. There is only Him that exists, with all his attributes and all his thoughts infinite, especially as it pertains to creation.

Let me break it down then since it's difficult for you to grab the concept:

There only needs to be a being, who is infinite. His thoughts, knowledge, infinite. The origin and dissipation of our event, and therefore our space-time, is only a sub-set of his infinite knowledge and presence. Actions, including emotional actions, of past, present, and future are all occupied by his infinite presence, and foreknown by his infinite knowledge.

So when he loves, he knows whom he loves, because he foreknows. But then there's no when in eternity. So he simply loves.

The bible states that he loved us before he created the world.


Do you now see how id.iotic and irrelevant your question is? And do you now see how foolish and zombie-like those cheering you are?

This is quite foolish. You can be intelligent, when there is all events in infinity which you completely occupy to be intelligent about.

Defining God in his infinity is not oxymoronic if he is timeless and changeless.


Once again your bag of air is deflated completely and its content is simply ill/thought out air

Edited.

Hhhmm.

All this back and forth infinity gets me dizzy.

You're beginning to sound like Deepsight.

You just need more work on your word salad repertoire.

plaetton:


Exactly.

I ddon't know why an omni omni being or omni omni beings would limit themselves to just 3.

Its one being manifesting in three persons

plaetton:


Hhhmm.

All this back and forth infinity gets me dizzy.

You're beginning to sound like Deepsight.

You just need more work on your word salad repertoire.

Take it small small and read and understand

Hey Dundee!! You're obviously beyond your depth. First you have to go and understand the english language and the meanings of the words that you are using.

How can you apply the reasoning of time to eternity and start yelling about when your understanding fails? Eternity, is not infinite time. In eternity, time itself is absent.

Perhaps you can tell me. YOU are the one attempting to apply the reasoning of time to eternity and coming out with such utter poo.

He is infinite, his thoughts are infinite, his attributes, infinite. Infinite attributes and thoughts don't need to be directed at anything to make sense.

First let me try to explain the word Infinite. In- means the opposite. Finite means having a boundary, a finishing point, an end. It is related also to the word Finish. In-finite means having no finishing point. With infinity no matter how many you count there is always more.
A thought has always got a subject matter. If you're thinking (even you) it is safe to presume that you are thinking about something.
To have infinite thoughts means that there are infinite subjects to think about. It doesn't mean that because it is infinite there is no subject matter.

When you say things like the following you just sound so utterly thick:

Joshthefirst:
'Infinity is contained in Him'.

Do you now see how id.iotic and irrelevant your question is? And do you now see how foolish and zombie-like those cheering you are?

Nope! Emotion is a word in the english language. Language evolved on earth amongst humans for humans to communicate human experience with each other. Emotions refer to specific human experiences which occur within time and are addressed towards objects. I feel the emotion of desire towards a certain other person, I feel happy about a certain other event. That is how the word evolved and how it is used and ever has been used.
You have now feebly attempted to fantasise about some eternal realm where you want to employ these terms to that realm with total disregard of what the word means, total ignorance even of what the words mean and the context in which they have developed and are used.

Defining God in his infinity is not oxymoronic if he is timeless and changeless.

De-finition. Remember Finite. De-fine is to mark where something ends, what it's limits are, it's boundaries. To claim to Define the Infinite is oxymoronic. Or you can claim to know the boundaries of the Boundless. or surmount the insurmountable. You can do all these things and feel clever with yourself but just know that you are actually portraying yourself as a dimwit.

Joshthefirst:
Unfortunately your question is ill thought out again. How can you apply the reasoning of time to eternity and start yelling about when your understanding fails? Eternity, is not infinite time. In eternity, time itself is absent.

Existing in eternity, nothing is done to anything to yield definition. There is only Him that exists, with all his attributes and all his thoughts infinite, especially as it pertains to creation.



He is infinite, his thoughts are infinite, his attributes, infinite. Infinite attributes and thoughts don't need to be directed at anything to make sense.

Let me break it down then since it's difficult for you to grab the concept:

There only needs to be a being, who is infinite. His thoughts, knowledge, infinite. The origin and dissipation of our event, and therefore our space-time, is only a sub-set of his infinite knowledge and presence. Actions, including emotional actions, of past, present, and future are all occupied by his infinite presence, and foreknown by his infinite knowledge.


Do you now see how id.iotic and irrelevant your question is? And do you now see how foolish and zombie-like those cheering you are?

This is quite foolish. You can be intelligent, when there is all events in infinity which you completely occupy to be intelligent about.

Defining God in his infinity is not oxymoronic if he is timeless and changeless.


Once again your bag of air is deflated completely and its content is simply ill/thought out air

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m02qDzr8bg

So now the atheists are disingenuous about infinity and eternity

Seriously?

But there is a new model that presents the universe as infinite and eternal and the atheists are not critical about such at all . Anything to preclude the existence of God ... just anything

Tufiakwa !

The only disingenuousness I saw is from Joshthefirst and I've been led to understand that he is a theist.

KingEbukasBlog:
So now the atheists are disingenuous about infinity and eternity

Seriously?

But there is a new model that presents the universe as infinite and eternal and the atheists are not critical about such at all . Anything to preclude the existence of God ... just anything

Tufiakwa !

plaetton:


Hhhmm.

All this back and forth infinity gets me dizzy.

.

Sir ... puny brains overheating already ?

Didn't I state clearly on this thread that atheists dont have the brains to push farther than the big bang . Atheism limits your perception of life . Christians are perspicacious enough to understand the very abstruse knowledge of things

1 Corinthians 2 : 10

10For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God.

Joshthefirst:
Unfortunately your question is ill thought out again. How can you apply the reasoning of time to eternity and start yelling about when your understanding fails? Eternity, is not infinite time. In eternity, time itself is absent.

Meaning that in God's eye past, present, and future are irrelevant. He is happening in all.

Existing in eternity, nothing is done to anything to yield definition. There is only Him that exists, with all his attributes and all his thoughts infinite, especially as it pertains to creation.

Let me break it down then since it's difficult for you to grab the concept:

There only needs to be a being, who is infinite. His thoughts, knowledge, infinite. The origin and dissipation of our event, and therefore our space-time, is only a sub-set of his infinite knowledge and presence. Actions, including emotional actions, of past, present, and future are all occupied by his infinite presence, and foreknown by his infinite knowledge.

So when he loves, he knows whom he loves, because he foreknows. But then there's no when in eternity. So he simply loves.

The bible states that he loved us before he created the world.


Do you now see how id.iotic and irrelevant your question is? And do you now see how foolish and zombie-like those cheering you are?

This is quite foolish. You can be intelligent, when there is all events in infinity which you completely occupy to be intelligent about.

Defining God in his infinity is not oxymoronic if he is timeless and changeless.


Once again your bag of air is deflated completely and its content is simply ill/thought out air

Edited.

Brilliant rebuttal

For an all knowing eternal entity its always about the foreknowledge of things

PastorAIO:
The only disingenuousness I saw is from Joshthefirst and I've been led to understand that he is a theist.

So if science proposes a theory that suggests the universe is infinite and eternal , what would your reaction be ?

Plus state what Josh is being disingenuous about

Joshthefirst:
lol. Oga cheerleader, the least you could do is try to cover up and not be so obvious at disappearing when your quarterback suffers an injury and appearing to cheer when he seems to be back up again

Joshthefirst:
Yeah. Some angrily cry "sh.it" when the air is cleared out and they realize they have no real stance to cling to in unbelief, while others try to dismantle every bit of what has been said and confuse us with distracting side definitions and details. Some misquote and try to start the argument all over again, and some are simply cheerleaders... and some have run away.

I knew it was sir plaetton the emboldened text was for ... I noticed too

PastorAIO:
Hey Dundee!! You're obviously beyond your depth. First you have to go and understand the english language and the meanings of the words that you are using.


Perhaps you can tell me. YOU are the one attempting to apply the reasoning of time to eternity and coming out with such utter poo.


First let me try to explain the word Infinite. In- means the opposite. Finite means having a boundary, a finishing point, an end. It is related also to the word Finish. In-finite means having no finishing point. With infinity no matter how many you count there is always more.
A thought has always got a subject matter. If you're thinking (even you) it is safe to presume that you are thinking about something.
To have infinite thoughts means that there are infinite subjects to think about. It doesn't mean that because it is infinite there is no subject matter.

When you say things like the following you just sound so utterly thick:




Nope! Emotion is a word in the english language. Language evolved on earth amongst humans for humans to communicate human experience with each other. Emotions refer to specific human experiences which occur within time and are addressed towards objects. I feel the emotion of desire towards a certain other person, I feel happy about a certain other event. That is how the word evolved and how it is used and ever has been used.
You have now feebly attempted to fantasise about some eternal realm where you want to employ these terms to that realm with total disregard of what the word means, total ignorance even of what the words mean and the context in which they have developed and are used.



De-finition. Remember Finite. De-fine is to mark where something ends, what it's limits are, it's boundaries. To claim to Define the Infinite is oxymoronic. Or you can claim to know the boundaries of the Boundless. or surmount the insurmountable. You can do all these things and feel clever with yourself but just know that you are actually portraying yourself as a dimwit.

What you need to understand is the Logic of God and EVERYTHING

GooseBaba:


You on the other hand. Hmmm, unnatural things. Celebrating and preserving the teachings and legacies of other peoples ancestors. Distorting your heritage/lineage in order to squeeze yourself in someone else's. Tufiakwa!!!

Yeah ... Aba boys produce shirts with " Versace " printed on them . So you mean I should stop buying quality products from Versace and then celebrate and promote the fake products made by Aba boys . You should have told me earlier na

GooseBaba:


Yeah, coming from the guy who believes in 1 god. When thousands exist.... abegii

You mean believing in the true and only God is wrong

PastorAIO:
Does the existence of Intentions exclude the existence of Accidents?

But why does that mean that the Universe cannot just emerge from Nothing. After all we believe it's possible, cos we agree that God has managed it.

Is God's intention an essential factor in Creation? Why?

Why can't apple devices emerge from nothing Why ?

GooseBaba:


Lmao....!!! Evolution theory is simply what it is. It's not a belief or religious in any way..

Errmm .... it is a belief . We believe through faith that God created the universe . He assures of his power by the signs and wonders which are evident in our lives as Christians - this validates our faith .

No one saw apes magically transforming into man or dinosaurs into birds . But you believe this happened through "studies" put out as evidence that such did . So the studies adduce reasons to support the theory - this then validates your faith in evolution .

So the belief in God and practices that show our acknowledgement of Him as the creator make up the Christian religion and the belief in evolution and studies that confirm the theory as true make up the "Evolution religion "

Kay17:
Besides KingEbuka has introduced the Trinity into the mix. So there isn't just God but Jesus and the Holy Spirit existing in a pseudo unity. The implication is, there lies the possibility of a number of eternal self existent beings existing.

There is no such thing as eternal self existent . Its contradictory .

PastorAIO:
Hey Dundee!! You're obviously beyond your depth. First you have to go and understand the english language and the meanings of the words that you are using.


Perhaps you can tell me. YOU are the one attempting to apply the reasoning of time to eternity and coming out with such utter poo.


First let me try to explain the word Infinite. In- means the opposite. Finite means having a boundary, a finishing point, an end. It is related also to the word Finish. In-finite means having no finishing point. With infinity no matter how many you count there is always more.
A thought has always got a subject matter. If you're thinking (even you) it is safe to presume that you are thinking about something.
To have infinite thoughts means that there are infinite subjects to think about. It doesn't mean that because it is infinite there is no subject matter.

When you say things like the following you just sound so utterly thick:




Nope! Emotion is a word in the english language. Language evolved on earth amongst humans for humans to communicate human experience with each other. Emotions refer to specific human experiences which occur within time and are addressed towards objects. I feel the emotion of desire towards a certain other person, I feel happy about a certain other event. That is how the word evolved and how it is used and ever has been used.
You have now feebly attempted to fantasise about some eternal realm where you want to employ these terms to that realm with total disregard of what the word means, total ignorance even of what the words mean and the context in which they have developed and are used.



De-finition. Remember Finite. De-fine is to mark where something ends, what it's limits are, it's boundaries. To claim to Define the Infinite is oxymoronic. Or you can claim to know the boundaries of the Boundless. or surmount the insurmountable. You can do all these things and feel clever with yourself but just know that you are actually portraying yourself as a dimwit.

I'll reply this nonsense later. I'm mobile right now. Begin to quit yourself.

KingEbukasBlog:


Brilliant rebuttal

For an all knowing eternal entity its always about the foreknowledge of things

And the LORD regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart.
Gen 6: 6

KingEbukasBlog:


So if science proposes a theory that suggests the universe is infinite and eternal , what would your reaction be ?

Plus state what Josh is being disingenuous about

I have no idea what my reaction would be. I would have to study the theory before I make up my mind. Anyway, I don't see what that has to do with anything that we are discussing. Perhaps you could explain yourself.

Let's trade. I'll tell you what I think Josh is being disingenuous about and then you'll tell me how you think the Atheists are being disingenuous about Infinity and Eternity.

Of course when I say he is being disingenuous I'm being generous because it is also quite likely that he really doesn't know the meaning of the words that he is using.

He claims to be able to Define a being that at the same time he says is infinite in every attribute.

Joshthefirst:
I'll reply this nonsense later. I'm mobile right now. Begin to quit yourself.

Apart from the entertainment value, what is your motivation for all the boasting and slapping yourself on the back and claiming to be cleverer than others. Are you feeling insecure? Is someone making you feel stupid and you feel you have to fight back the feeling?

KingEbukasBlog:


Why can't apple devices emerge from nothing Why ?

Who says they can't??

PastorAIO:

Of course when I say he is being disingenuous I'm being generous because it is also quite likely that he really doesn't know the meaning of the words that he is using.

He claims to be able to Define a being that at the same time he says is infinite in every attribute.

I'm still mobile, but I just want to remind you that the word 'define' has several definitions.

You call me disingenuous when you forgot to remember that vital fact in an effort to prove me wrong.

And yes, I say it again. It is possible to define an infinite being who is timeless and changeless

KingEbukasBlog:


What you need to understand is the Logic of God and EVERYTHING

What about the foolishness of God?

PastorAIO:


Apart from the entertainment value, what is your motivation for all the boasting and slapping yourself on the back and claiming to be cleverer than others. Are you feeling insecure? Is someone making you feel stupid and you feel you have to fight back the feeling?

If you're talking about my first response to plaetton, it was entertainment. Its a regular thing we do.

PS: You and me we go see who like definition and detail pass

Joshthefirst:
I'm still mobile, but I just want to remind you that the word 'define' has several definitions.

You call me disingenuous when you forgot to remember that vital fact in an effort to prove me wrong.

And yes, I say it again. It is possible to define an infinite being who is timeless and changeless

Okay o, you go bring dictionary tire. You fit even invent your own dictionary.

Just make sure that it is not boring.

Joshthefirst:


If you're talking about my first response to plaetton, it was entertainment. Its a regular thing we do.

PS: You and me we go see who like definition and detail pass

competitive boasting again. This is not about me and you (at least not for me).

PastorAIO:


competitive boasting again. This is not about me and you (at least not for me).

competitive boasting? Lol. Should I define competitive and boasting?


And calm down brother. I was only joking. Smh.

Joshthefirst:
competitive boasting? Lol. Should I define competitive and boasting?


And calm down brother. I was only joking. Smh.

You and these your flat jokes.

PastorAIO:


You and these your flat jokes.

At least I'm better than deepsight.

Joshthefirst:
Its one being manifesting in three persons

Lmao...!!!!!!

You sure this being is not on expired meds...