Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come(the end of the era before the establishment of Christianity on earth,not the end of the world. So, take note)
The question is, what is the Gospel of the kingdom was he referring to here?
The gospel of the kingdom is the gospel of Christianity on earth. Therefore, it was Christianity that Jesus and his disciples preached.
Remember, there was no Christianity on earth when Jesus made this statement of Matt 24:14
Christianity started after Jesus resurrected, so it was the era, from his resurrection till our current day, that he preached, which is Christianity on earth.
Why was there need to establish Christianity on earth?
Adam and Eve sinned death came to the world, but Jesus came and restore eternal life here on earth such that, as many that believe is saved from death.
That eternal life is Christianity he established here on earth, which is God's kingdom. And this kingdom called Christianity has no end.
That automatically means, so long Christianity remain on this earth,.this earth will never end.
This earth has become the kingdom of our father.
So, disregard every message of end time and rapture. It is not of God. They were postulated by ancient theologians who never understood Bible.

Good one

denisbid:
Good one

Thanks

paxonel:

Thanks

People are not ready to accept this truth

Who posted this poo!
Are you sure you're reading your bible? And you're not the one mis-interpreting here

This is not new in anyway you are just fulfilling the prophesy that in the end time there will be false doctrine in order to deceive people...Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Repent now so that you will make Heaven.. And I pray you will make Heaven in Jesus name (amen).

denisbid:

People are not ready to accept this truth

That's true!
It's simply because they are afraid or they didn't think.
And i will tell you why they are afraid to accept change
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
i think this verse of the Bible appear to be a big padlock that luck the minds of christians, making them so rigid against becoming flexible to accepting change.
This explains why Christ was never accepted among the Pharisees.
But thank God they have accepted Christ but they need to harness the huge benefit of accepting Christ which may gradually change this world for better.
Until that padlock is broken evil will continue to prevail in this world

Marvel1206:
Who posted this poo!

Are you sure you're reading your bible?
And you're not the one mis-interpreting here

No
I'm not the one misinterpreting, i used to think that people who came up with this new idea of understanding were misinterpreting things, until i finally apply reasoning, and i begin to see the sense in it.
Of a truth, the Bible was logically written with great wisdom.
Now, if you have never gone to school, it will be difficult for you to understand.
Even professors are confused when it comes to Bible.
So, if there is anything or area you don't understand in the post, i will still explain.
But you really have to open your mind and think

genuineone:
This is not new in anyway you are just fulfilling the prophesy that in the end time there will be false doctrine in order to deceive people...Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Repent now so that you will make Heaven.. And I pray you will make Heaven in Jesus name (amen).

First of all, if you take a proper look at the matt 24 you quoted
Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
This means that those jesus referred to as false prophets were people who preached that they were the Christ or Jesus was not the Christ.
I never say Jesus is not the Christ, so you can never categorize me as false prophet, if you cannot summarise and understand Scriptures you will end up faulting the wrong person.
Secondly, Heaven is now, not in the future. incase you don't know.
So, i am in heaven already.
Heaven was a free gift through Christ, if you understand Jesus parables when he will say, the kingdom of heaven is like unto...
Then, he will say the parable.
Maybe you will need a technician to use Allen bolt and plias to open your skull and put this Scripture into your head.
Colossians 1:13 says Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
so, i have already been translated into heaven. That is what i know that you are yet to know that is making you still saying you want to make heaven .
And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. Remember?
So, you see what I'm talking about?

genuineone:
This is not new in anyway you are just fulfilling the prophesy that in the end time there will be false doctrine in order to deceive people...Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Repent now so that you will make Heaven.. And I pray you will make Heaven in Jesus name (amen).

The op is absolutely correct.
But what i still do not accept about the post is him debunking rapture

denisbid:

The op is absolutely correct.
But what i still do not accept about the post is him debunking rapture

I asked this same question in a thread.
Was the word rapture mentioned anywhere in the Bible.
The response was no
all the scriptures they advanced to support rapture were all talking about something else, when we eventually summarize the whole chapter

paxonel:

I asked this same question in a thread.
Was the word rapture mentioned anywhere in the Bible.
The response was no
all the scriptures they advanced to support rapture were all talking about something else, when we eventually summarize the whole chapter

Do we need to do summary when it comes to the things of the spirit?

denisbid:

Do we need to do summary when it comes to the things of the spirit?

Seriously!
The spirit can never be an author of confusion.
The world is currently in a state Of confusion owing to the mistakes the developers of rapture doctrine who lived centuries ago caused the Christian religion.
Jesus who founded Christianity never mentioned rapture, rather, he mentioned resurrection of the dead.
Paul the apostle and early disciples never mentioned rapture anywhere in the Bible, rather,they emphasized resurrection of the dead here on earth.
If you do not believe in resurrection of the dead here on earth and you are still preaching rapture , then you are not fit to be a Christian, you are only Christian by grace. You are like the saducees.
And the only way to know this truth is to summarize the Scripture. By so doing, you have a wider view picture and understanding of what you are reading.
If you not yet summarize, then it never the holy spirit

paxonel:
Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come(the end of the era before the establishment of Christianity on earth,not the end of the world. So, take note)
The question is, what is the Gospel of the kingdom was he referring to here?
The gospel of the kingdom is the gospel of Christianity on earth. Therefore, it was Christianity that Jesus and his disciples preached.
Remember, there was no Christianity on earth when Jesus made this statement of Matt 24:14
Christianity started after Jesus resurrected, so it was the era, from his resurrection till our current day, that he preached, which is Christianity on earth.
Why was there need to establish Christianity on earth?
Adam and Eve sinned death came to the world, but Jesus came and restore eternal life here on earth such that, as many that believe is saved from death.
That eternal life is Christianity he established here on earth, which is God's kingdom. And this kingdom called Christianity has no end.
That automatically means, so long Christianity remain on this earth,.this earth will never end.
This earth has become the kingdom of our father.
So, disregard every message of end time and rapture. It is not of God. They were postulated by ancient theologians who never understood Bible.

What about this day. ..

Malachi 4 : 1
For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

Muafrika2:


What about this day. ..

Malachi 4 : 1
For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

It is the day of the lord which is the day of judgement, which is also the day of our death.
Everybody will die someday.
Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Revelation talked about the lake of fire, a figurative language which represent death,
the second death, and not fire
To prove to you that lake of fire in revelation and burning with fire in Malachi 4:1, represent death and not fire in the Real sense, look at this
Malachi 4:3 And ye (righteous people ) shall tread down the wicked;FOR THEY SHALL BE ASHES UNDERSTAND THE SOUL OF YOUR FEET in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
Now, assuming the ashes were burnt of people in hell fire does this place suggest that hell fire will be burning under the feet of righteous people?
(Also, remember the idea of hell fire was not to burn people to ashes, but to torment them forever while they are still alive, for them to feel the pain )
Hell fire burning people into ashes under the feet of righteous people..
It's really funny.
There is no sense there.
So, you see what I'm talking about?
Certainly, there is something figurative about the term hell fire or lake or fire.
And the true meaning is death, not fire burning people

paxonel:

It is the day of the lord which is the day of judgement, which is also the day of our death.
Everybody will die someday.
Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Revelation talked about the lake of fire, a figurative language which represent death,
the second death, and not fire
To prove to you that lake of fire in revelation and burning with fire in Malachi 4:1, represent death and not fire in the Real sense, look at this
Malachi 4:3 And ye (righteous people ) shall tread down the wicked;FOR THEY SHALL BE ASHES UNDERSTAND THE SOUL OF YOUR FEET in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
Now, assuming the ashes were burnt of people in hell fire does this place suggest that hell fire will be burning under the feet of righteous people?
Hell fire burning people into ashes under the feet of righteous people..
It's really funny.
There is no sense there.
So, you see what I'm talking about?
Certainly, there is something figurative about the term hell fire or lake or fire.
And the true meaning is death, not fire burning people

I see where you are coming from. From a figurative point of view. Which am challenging.

Let's say you are right, but why the rising from the dead just before judgment?

Regarding the topic of end time, Does this point of second death not mark an end of one thing and the beginning of another? Am pretty sure it hasn't happened coz I've been seeing the devil around.

God will visit his vengeance on all false preachers including you. Hell and hell fire are not "figurative", they are real and you Mr "false preacher" can do nothing about it.

If heaven can be this cage called world, where terrorists are reigning, where world govts are killers...no wonder christains are losers. if all the christains thousands years of rase isnt more than this then it doesnt worth it. THEY BETTER SHOULD THEREFORE PRAY FOR HELL FIRE.

denisbid:

Do we need to do summary when it comes to the things of the spirit?

The question is, does it take a spirit to read and summarize a book?
Reading and understanding is a thing of the mind and not spirit

Muafrika2:

I see where you are coming from. From a figurative point of view. Which am challenging.

Let's say you are right, but why the rising from the dead just before judgment?

Regarding the topic of end time, Does this point of second death not mark an end of one thing and the beginning of another? Am pretty sure it hasn't happened coz I've been seeing the devil around.

Oh!
Do you think the devil will disappear in the future after end time has come?
End time is not comming in the future.
End time is already here,
Infact, end time is a proof that the devil is still around.
End time has been here since 2000 years ago, and what is that end time.
It is the end of judaism and the beginning of christianity which happened 2000 yrs ago.
Matthew 3:10 And now also the axe(Jesus ) is laid unto the root of the trees(all religions of that time including Judaism): therefore every tree(every religion) which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire(meaning, is rejected by God, and all adherents of that religion will die, that is, second death. As Christianity is the only way the truth and the life ).
when you read, think and understand.
so let nobody use end time to threaten you again.
When a person dies, what we see physically is that the person dies, but in the spirit rhelm there is judgement.
At the end of the judgement, those whose name was in the book of the lamb will resurrect and come back to this earth again, while those whose name were not found will not resurrect.
This is the second death.
This thing is happening everyday as I'm talking to you

Amberon:
God will visit his vengeance on all false preachers including you. Hell and hell fire are not "figurative", they are real and you Mr "false preacher" can do nothing about it.

Ok o,
I hear

ogechieku:
If heaven can be this cage called world, where terrorists are reigning, where world govts are killers...no wonder christains are losers. if all the christains thousands years of rase isnt more than this then it doesnt worth it. THEY BETTER SHOULD THEREFORE PRAY FOR HELL FIRE.

Terrorists are reigning they are hiding in caves,even hiding from fellow Muslims
Is that how to reign?
Christianity is currently broadcasted worldwide lifting Jesus high, what president of the world has ever received such praises worldwide?
If Jesus could be praised worldwide openly, of a truth he has started reigning, his kingdom is here, and guess what?
There will be no end of his reign.
Christianity will last here on earth forever

paxonel:

The question is, does it take a spirit to read and summarize a book?
Reading and understanding is a thing of the mind and not spirit

The Bible is not just an ordinary book like any other book

To the Muslims, they are right, to the Christian they are right... which shall we follow..I follow Christ

paxonel:

Terrorists are reigning they are hiding in caves,even hiding from fellow Muslims
Is that how to reign?
Christianity is currently broadcasted worldwide lifting Jesus high, what president of the world has ever received such praises worldwide?
If Jesus could be praised worldwide openly, of a truth he has started reigning, his kingdom is here, and guess what?
There will be no end of his reign.
Christianity will last here on earth forever

If not that heaven cant be hijacked from jesus you guys wouldnt have praised him. jesus knows the motives behind this praises. just imagine what will happen if the world has enough power to hijack heavenly key from him? they will send nuclear weapon to destroy him. The love for jesus is not but infatuation

ogechieku:
If not that heaven cant be hijacked from jesus you guys wouldnt have praised him. jesus knows the motives behind this praises. just imagine what will happen if the world has enough power to hijack heavenly key from him? they will send nuclear weapon to destroy him. The love for jesus is not but infatuation

You are right!
And this is one of the observation the op seek to address here.
We love Jesus, we praise him.
But how does his heaven affect us here on earth?
We don't know.
So, our praises are just deception and infatuation to him.
Nevertheless, we are praising him. The whole world is seeing it.
The whole world is gradually knowing him through our praises(and every Sunday church going ), yet we don't know what we are benefiting.
Are we not foolish like that?
Only if we know the physical benefit here on earth and not so religiously fictious,hoping of one rapture or end time as the benefit, which Jesus never promised or recorded anywhere in the Bible, we will not be pretending praises and wishing to hijack his kingdom using atomic bomb

denisbid:

The Bible is not just an ordinary book like any other book

Then how come even some Muslims can read and understand Bible even more than our so called prominent pastors?
Have you ever met a Muslim who gives you a historical background of Bible events proving every Scripture, yet conclude that Jesus was a mere prophet and not God.
Even adeboye and oyedopo as never in their dream analyse Bible like that.
What they do is using Bible for religion.
And you know religion don't encourage knowledge and understanding

paxonel:
paxonel

To me it is like denying facts if you claim you dont know phisical benefit of Jesus here. If only what jesus said in his entire life is "thou shall not kill" that word alone comes with million of phisical benefits that sustains world and million lives, could it be better? How will you feel if you find out that your wife loves your money not you? she loves what you have not what you are? She loves you for the great things she is expecting from you not the ones you've her? You mean nothing to her but your riches means a lot to her, if possible she wants to block all your riches convert them to hers and kill you...will you ever trust her, will you manage the fake love? will you ever be happy?will you be happy to live with her? It'llnt matter to you if she praises you all over the world after all,you mean nothing to her. you are talking as if jesus is begging to be superstar,does he have any benefit to make for praising him all over the world? absolutely nothing!

ogechieku:
To me it is like denying facts if you claim you dont know phisical benefit of Jesus here. If only what jesus said in his entire life is "thou shall not kill" that word alone comes with million of phisical benefits that sustains world and million lives, could it be better? How will you feel if you find out that your wife loves your money not you? she loves what you have not what you are? She loves you for the great things she is expecting from you not the ones you've her? You mean nothing to her but your riches means a lot to her, if possible she wants to block all your riches convert them to hers and kill you...will you ever trust her, will you manage the fake love? will you ever be happy?will you be happy to live with her? It'llnt matter to you if she praises you all over the world after all,you mean nothing to her. you are talking as if jesus is begging to be superstar,does he have any benefit to make for praising him all over the world? absolutely nothing!

But i didn't say Jesus is begging to be superstar, he is already a mega superstar.
I'm saying that christians don't know what he has done to warrant him a superstar,yet they know he is, so they praise him.
And i think it is far better to know than not to know at all.
Because,when the purpose of a thing is not known abuse is inevitable.
And I'm very sure you that is talking don't know his benefit. But that doesn't make you deny him or facts.

paxonel:

But i didn't say Jesus is begging to be superstar, he is already a mega superstar.
I'm saying that christians don't know what he has done to warrant him a superstar,yet they know he is, so they praise him.
And i think it is far better to know than not to know at all.
Because,when the purpose of a thing is not known abuse is inevitable.
And I'm very sure you that is talking don't know his benefit. But that doesn't make you deny him or facts.

Have you not read that "it is better for who doesnot know me than for he who knows me..."? The way they do it makes it look like jesus is one hopeless guy that they want to make a superstar. They want to create a kind of life they want for him...cant you just observe? i hate everything about it...if jesus has heaven why should these demon tries to make him what they want not what he wants...search internet for more...if you think i dont know his benefit that is good for you

paxonel:

Oh!
Do you think the devil will disappear in the future after end time has come?

Yeah. According to this....


Rev 20
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

End time is not comming in the future.
End time is already here,
Infact, end time is a proof that the devil is still around.
End time has been here since 2000 years ago, and what is that end time.
It is the end of judaism and the beginning of christianity which happened 2000 yrs ago.
Matthew 3:10 And now also the axe(Jesus ) is laid unto the root of the trees(all religions of that time including Judaism): therefore every tree(every religion) which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire(meaning, is rejected by God, and all adherents of that religion will die, that is, second death.

Let's say someone has the right religion but they have no God in their hearts
Don't you have wolves dressed like sheep in your religion? Even Christ has Judah. Will religion be enough to sanctify in the absence of spiritual trans formation?

As Christianity is the only way the truth and the life ).
when you read, think and understand.
so let nobody use end time to threaten you again.
When a person dies, what we see physically is that the person dies, but in the spirit rhelm there is judgement.
At the end of the judgement, those whose name was in the book of the lamb will resurrect and come back to this earth again, while those whose name were not found will not resurrect.
This is the second death.
This thing is happening everyday as I'm talking to you

ogechieku:
Have you not read that "it is better for who doesnot know me than for he who knows me..."? The way they do it makes it look like jesus is one hopeless guy that they want to make a superstar. They want to create a kind of life they want for him...cant you just observe? i hate everything about it...if jesus has heaven why should these demon tries to make him what they want not what he wants...search internet for more...if you think i dont know his benefit that is good for you

I also observe what you observe,
It's true that they want to create artificial life for Jesus on earth, That's why you hear things like Christlike life.
The truth is, there is nothing like christlike,
Everybody commit sin on earth.
It's true that Jesus has heaven here on earth which is his kingdom, that kingdom is not of this world, what that means is that, the kingdom has nothing to do with our physical activities here on earth but it is strictly a gift of the spirit rhelm imbedded in our spirit.
So, whatever we do whether bad or good has no bearing into the spirit, talkless of eroding that kingdom in us.
So people are entitled to their actions or words, if these demons are trying to make Jesus what he is not, their actions have no spiritual bearing and do not affect Jesus and his kingdom in anyway, That's why Jesus is silent